Protesters in L.A. slam Pelosi for ignoring impeachment calls
Nancy Pelosi is quickly learning that being a reliable and powerful liberal voice in the House of Representatives doesn't necessarily translate into blind support. During an event in Los Angeles to promote her new book, Know Your Power: A Message to America's Daughters, a group of protesters started screaming in anger over her unwillingness to open impeachment inquiries against Bush.
She was in Los Angeles to discuss her recently published book "Know Your Power: A Message to America's Daughters." Instead, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi got slammed by protesters screaming that she has been derelict in her duties for not authorizing impeachment hearings against George W. Bush.
The venue: more than 300 people paid $30 each Monday night at the American Jewish University (formerly known as the University of Judaism). The format: a 75-minute interview by the Rabbi Robert Wexler (not to be confused with the Palm Beach, Fla., congressman of the same name). The questions: tough but respectful. Wexler asked Pelosi about a recent Rasmussen Poll that showed a 9% approval rating for Congress.
Update: The Public Record broke the story.
Worthless c*nt.
And oh yeah, frist!
9% approval? Is it that high?
with so many lemmings appauding her, it's no wonder the democratic party is what it is, a disgrace.
Imagine if Ms Pelosi and the Dems had the balls that these protestors do ....
And screw you Pelosi , and the "oath you took" ; Chimpy took a similar one.
And you're both derelict in your duties..........
Women of America should be damn mad about Nancy Pelosi.
Here the first woman Speaker of the House and she is a disgrace to America.
If I could swing it, I would move to SF to work in any way I could to unseat Pelosi. We know the Repubs are the enemy of
people, but Pelosi is the REAL turncoat. I bet she is intimately involved in war crimes herself, and that's why Obama voted for
FISA, to save her and Hoyer and Feinstein et. al. from the deep doo doo they should be in. I want their political career hanging
from a tree. I work hard to fight the mainstream media, now I got another pet project. Bury the Dem traitors!!!!
Take Nancy off the table.
How about this - Fuck Pelosi and any other passive Democrat who does not stand up for the Constitution. The fact that she says she was elected to uphold it was only to get the claps by those ignorant few in the audience. She is a shill and her daughter is a shill for protecting the right wing agenda. Fuck her and all like her.
I think we can safely attribute Congress' low opinion rating to the fact that Nancy Pelosi has refused to defend the Constitution by impeaching Bush and Cheney.
I thought she'd be in hiding right now recuperating from her latest face lift in Prep for the Dem opening night at the convention.
she's a gutless, spineless worthless excuse for a speaker of the house. i am damn sick and tured of her bending over backwards just to kiss the rebuplicans and george bush's shiny ass. she needs to step up or get the hell out of the way and allow someone with integrity to do the job of speaker.
Reminds me of Chimpy's State of the Union addy in 2005 , and the wind-up toy monkeys called "Republicans" , clapping on cue...........
Go Cindy Sheehan! Drive out this Sell-Out!
Nancy's doing book-signings here in NorCal too. I hope lots of protesters show up to call her for: (a) fully funding Bush's war; (b) no impeachment or accountability for the Chimperator; (c) the FISA treachery; (d-z) etc.!!
Not many working class can afford the $30 ticket to get in. That's where the applause come from. The Democratic party is next, as the Republicans know they are finish for the election, unless they steal it. The Nazi party will move away from the republican and go join the Democratic party.
Doesn't matter what uniform you wear, a fascist tend to change their color to whatever suits them.
Tough break there Nancy... NOT! If my vote has anything to do with it.. You are toast woman!!! Your arrogance and Bush appeasing ass has pushed this voter to back a person who has absolutely no experience in public office.. But has demonstrated that she, at least, has guts and a conscience... Cindy Sheehan.... I don't know if she'll win or not, but she has my vote since you have shown nothing but an inclination to be totally direlict in executing your responsibilities... BTW: Jason@7? Your comment??? Brilliant!!!! JD
greg@11
I could not have said it better if I tried. I just want to add this: Didn't that silly cow have even the least whisper of an idea that continuing to be such
a bend over bitch for the chimp was going to come back on her like a tidal wave at some point? Does she have no idea that it's just going to get worse from here on out for her? Stupid cow.
That Constitution she swore to uphold? Funny, I can't find the part where the Speaker of the House can take impeachment off the table by proclamation.
If i was there...about the time the goon in the suit started pulling that lady's arm down who was speaking from the audience, I would've been on top of him pulling HIS nazi ass to the ground! I wish the woman had thrown her piece of shit book at Pelosi.
The repubs must have something so dirty, so big, that she doesn't dare even breathe the word impeachment. I mean like Cathrine the Great and the broken ropes kind of dirt on her that she wont move on the articles.
Pelosi should be ashamed. But what does she care. She has her salary and book royalties and other 'monies' to survive.
It is doubly shameful that she was the first Madam speaker and blew it.
Nancy Fat Cat Pelosi should retire, sooner, rather than later.
Pelosi is doing a disservice to all progressive women in the world. She was suppose to be a guiding light and now has becomes a total embarrassment. Like this is what women would aspire to be. She makes me want to puke.
No one likes Pelosi except for a few Republicans.
"The Republicans will not allow...." (???????) That's why you are the opposition party. C*nt. Fuck Pelosi.
Vote Cindy Sheehan!!! Pelosi is worthless!!
All these neocon and any democrat enablers should start fearing the rope. Pelosi is a fucking disgrace.
What is it that the Republicans have on Nancy Pelosi that she is scared about? What is she hiding?
Does anyone know of skeletons in Nancy's closet? (besides the Republicans?)
Telling crooks arrest is off the table... think crime would go down?
Let me put it this way:
If the law were not an obstacle, I would say Hello to Nancy Pelosi.
And then there would be another Speaker.
But I am a law-abiding person.
It's disgusting how she can sit there and say that she upholds the constitution while it's being ripped to shreds right before our eyes. Absolutely disgusting. How she can show her face in public much less have the gall to stand up there and tell me black is white is beyond me. Thanks for less than nothing.
-B
4 MCMetal Says: Imagine if Ms Pelosi and the Dems had the balls that these protestors do ….
And screw you Pelosi , and the “oath you took” ; Chimpy took a similar one.
And you’re both derelict in your duties……….
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Exxxactly.
If someone breaks the law (Constitution) and you have the powers to reprimand them, should you? Isn't that your duty, under your oath to protect the Constitution? Derelection of duty.
I have a bridge for sale for 20 bucks or more if you think Ms. Pooplosi cares what the people think.
Speaker Pelosi should hear the same outcry EVERYWHERE she goes!
she works for WE, THE PEOPLE - supposedly, anyway.
The entire congress is out of touch. They have absolutley no idea how hated they are.
Follow her to every book signing and hound the crap out of her. Don't let up on any of these people anymore.
Nancy Pelosi should be arrested for accessory-after-the-fact, abuse of authority, and obstructing investigations.
so, seriously, are these people going to be remembered as the only true American Patriots of these dark times? willing to stand up and risk everything in defense of the United States Constitution and the Rule of Law?
or as mentally unstable individuals seeking attention?
I would guess both, right?
how should they be remembered?
what are the applicable historical analogies?
I'll have a hot dog and two Bud Lights.
Nancy,
"Republicans will not allow........." is not an excuse. You do not pick only the fights you know you can win. If you made the effort, you could energize practically the whole country behind you. And if you lose once, you try it again and again. Let the people of this country see the enemy of justice is Republican.
Jo
I think she needs to send another strongly worded letter to the Criminal-n-Chief
It is time that ALL of you to wake up and realize that Pelosi, Clintons, Obama and EVERY other establishment ELITE ARE THE SAME AS BUSHCO. They are ALL either completely controlled to begin with OR get bribed, threatened or because of there own criminal activity they must follow their NWO/Banker Controllers.
Forget about parties, forget about race, forget about religion or anything else they use to 'divide and conquer' us. Realize it is the Elites versus 'we the people'. You all know who they are. STOP SUPPORTING THEM.
Pelosi knows without a shadow of a doubt that most of the Bush administration are blatant traitors and war criminals, and yet she acts like some BULLSHIT 'equal pay for equal hours' or some other phony legislation is more important. The sad thing is that there are people who know Pelosi is a criminal but will still support her.
WAKE UP NOW! IMPEACH, INVESTIGATE, IMPRISON, EXECUTE. This country can NOT survive allowing Bushco to leave office FREE, and have 'business as usual' Obama take over. Either they need to be impeached NOW or we need Kucinich or Ron Paul as president.
Well SF let's see how much you care about this Country. You ahve a chance to send a HUGE message to the Democratic party by ousting Pelosi in the primaries. Protests are great but voting her out of office is the ultimate.
Don't think commenters here feel strongly enough about Pelosi.
Someone needs to poke the hive.
it's truly sad that the protests have to begin with the DEMOCRATIC speaker of the House. the protests should be directed at bush and his ilk every time they show for a pr event. they should be shouted off to the extent that the media cannot ignore it. Sad about nancy since she supposedly was one of us, but hell she got what she deserved. maybe she'll wake up or show her true colors.
The protesters had a good point, but yelling, interrupting, ranting, and raving really is not the most effective way to make it. They had the opportunity to step up and ask questions, so they could have voiced their criticisms in a more mature way.
That said, when Pelosi said what sounded like "I take an oath of office to uphold the Constitution of the United States, and don't tell me I don't do that," we have to tell her that she doesn't "do that," because her statement is a lie on its face. When Pelosi repeatedly stated before the 2006 election that impeachment of Bush was "off the table," that is by definition a failure to uphold the Constitution, and thus a violation of her oath of office, since the Constitution specifically provides for impeachment.
no longer a proud american @ 42:
Sadly, she has shown her true colors.
God, I would have loved to yell at her the same way the first person passionatly yelled at Benedict Pelosi. Even though that person got yanked out, it must have felt so damn good to just yell at her. GW needs that sort of verbal public verbal lashing as well!
WOW! The fact that all those people just applauded her after she said she took an oath to uphold the constitution, even though she hasn't, shows how brainwashed a lot of people have become. They just follow along blindly.
That nasty filthy bush loving scum needs to be fired and left to live on her millions in war profits.
VietVet8666 @ 41:
A charitable Liberal would assume Nancy Pelosi and her brethren have an ulterior motive in enabling the Republican war/ death destruction machine,
prob hoping to cash in on the negative fallout in november, as the Repugs sink beneath the waters into the swamp never to return.
Cynical Liberals have a sneaky suspicion that a large section of the Democratic party have made big profits from the Bushco years and are covering their behinds to avoid being indicted themselves.
In a country with a Constitution and Bill of Rights, and very strict 'oath of offices' its disturbing that Pelosi and co dont apply their oaths.
They are traitors themselves for covering for the treasonous Rethugs.
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!
Oath of Office and following the Constitution does not come below the priorities of party politics, no matter what Nancy or her fellow crims believe.
More of this.
Please.
She is a toothless Republican whore.
The Bussh Admin feels safe for now.
Why is that ?
Nancy Pelosi is a smiling traitor.
Nancy - you're a major disappointment.
Nancy Pelosi tells CHANGE Ohio she hasn't read Impeachment articles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUlhmOQEI_M
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“Let the people of this country see the enemy of justice is Republican.”
No, the enemy is the entire DC political class as a whole. What the heck have the Democrats done, what do they stand for, that is REALLY different than the other party? Look even at their differences in foreign policy. The fact that the US should have this horribly undemocratic and over bloated military (with all the negative repercussions it brings) is a given on both sides. We should without question interfere in any country’s internal dealings, because if Iran or China wanted to do the same we’d be fine with it. On economics what is the REAL difference? Do the Democrats talk about the horrible effects investors and banks have on democracy and working people? No, they at best want them to “work with them”. Do they oppose “free trade”? Maybe a minority does, but on the whole no? Are they for single payer universal healthcare? No, they want, at best, for it to be law that you HAVE to purchase insurance from these crooks in the healthcare industry. The same inefficiencies will be there (profits, executive pay, marketing, administrative costs, etc), at best they’ll be lessened a bit.
The Democrats are part of the political class that is not like you, doesn’t understand you and could care less about you…unless it’s time to vote. Then they’ll throw you a crumb or two. Outside of that they are DC “centrists”, which means they’ll be in the middle of two groups of elites, with an extremely narrow difference ideologically, with their constituents having a passing mention or being of passing concern.
Former Congresswoman Elizabeth Holtzman:
"Impeachment does not require the commission of a crime. It involves a serious abuse of power that subverts our constitution. That was determined in the Nixon impeachment proceedings. And, although not strictly relevant, it is noteworthy that violations of the anti-torture act and FISA are federal crimes."
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All-nonsense Nancy claims that Boosh hasn't committed a crime so why impeach. Chimpy has committed various crimes, enough for impeachment, but what Ms. Holtzman says is noteworthy.
Nancy is knee deep with the neocons, otherwise why would she put off her constitutional duties.
Nancy is scum!
Anyone have her itinerary ?
She should not be allowed to profit from writing a book.
Is there not a law that prevents criminals from profiting based on their crimes ?
I'll bet Bush has personally thanked her for taking heat for him.
Thomas Jefferson had this idea that it aint a bad thing if 'gov' is shaken up every few decades.
Our corrupt Washington crew with their disregard for the Constitution, enabling of organized crime and craven sucking up to the Fed jackboots and its perpetual need for taxpayer money to waste on foreign wars and domination.
'Washington' (our fed gov) if it doesnt come clean and have one monster shake up and clean out the corruption in 2009, basically has declared open season on itself, we have the right to close them down and start again from scratch, by any means.
'We the people' is our right.
If the Republitards get to control the House and Senate whether they win or lose, why is it so important to vote for the Democrats?
Nancy Pelosi is a national disgrace, and yet another reason why the Iraq War will go on forever.
Edwin Hussein @ 55:
either the TLAs blocking or the censors editing , pick your choice...
"yenehC hcaepmI Says:WOW! The fact that all those people just applauded her after she said she took an oath to uphold the constitution, even though she hasn’t, shows how brainwashed a lot of people have become. They just follow along blindly."
Aren't these the same women that are seen on Oprah yelling and screaming about getting a free gift from Oprah?
Here is where you can her little tour click here
Now lets give her hell just like she's making us go through. Your time is up Nanc, See ya wouldn't wanna be ya!
Signed
the ones who vote BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Is there not a law that prevents criminals from profiting based on their crimes ?
It's called the 'Son of Sam' law.
Unfortunately it requires that someone actually be convicted of a crime, not just accused of one by a private citizen.
Also, it only prevents criminals from profiting from their crimes, not profiting from anything at all. Some banal book about teaching America's young women how to bend over and grab 'em with a smile when a fratboy chimp yells "war time!" wouldn't qualify.
Pelosi allows impeachment her crimes are uncovered. CYA before country.
Skank Pelosi is unstoppable.
ZombyWoof @ 53:
Just about as evil as an zombywoof can be.
I'm glad she got verbally abused. She has failed in her duties as the Speaker of the House. Failed as the leader of the Dem party in the House.
Sorry Nancy, your 15 minutes of fame are up. Time to move on.
A problem, that needs a solution
How do you keep your federal employees happy and complaint with all the law breaking going on in Washington by the gov depts?
Answer; Federal credit cards :)
Remember that GAO report into the $14 billion spent through federal credits cards, well they did a statistical survey,
turns out that a mere 41% was outright fraud and theft of goods bought on CCs or very shoddy or missing paper trails for goods bought,
Gov employees are buying laptops, ipods and a myriad of goods for personal use with their handy dandy Federal CCs.
Nice to know our taxes are going into the pockets of petty criminals employed at our expense, who get paid very well and with better benefits than most Americans workers.
"no longer a proud american Says: it’s truly sad that the protests have to begin with the DEMOCRATIC speaker of the House. the protests should be directed at bush and his ilk every time they show for a pr event. they should be shouted off to the extent that the media cannot ignore it. Sad about nancy since she supposedly was one of us, but hell she got what she deserved. maybe she’ll wake up or show her true colors."
Bush doesn't do public pr events. His audience is vetted and only "true" patriots are allowed to attend.
Silent Patriot wrote: "Nancy Pelosi is quickly learning that being a reliable and powerful liberal voice..."
I think you need to check the dictionary. If Nancy Pelosi were a "reliable and powerful liberal voice," she wouldn't need to worry about blind support, because she would have overwhelming support.
My guess is that Pelosi took impeachment off the table, because she knows it's not a good idea to seek the indictment of someone when the evidence is likely to show that you are guilty of collusion in some of the same crimes.
Leadership @ 6:
www.CindyforCongress.org
Her excuse is:
"The Republicans will not allow us".
Wow.
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harley @ 72:
Just like Muskasey just said "some crimes and violations of the law are not true crimes"
just what you would expect from a scumbag Republican traitor covering up corruption and treason at the DoJ.
If you'd like to do something more to get rid of Pelosi, please send whatever money you can to Cindy Sheehan's campaign for Congress. She's really going to need it. Here's the contribute link:
cindyforcongress.org
Isn’t Jerome Corsi the same man who was caught up in sexual affair with Mark Foley, seriously Google it.
And Mary Joe Matalin, the woman that James Carville said you had to get drunk so you didn’t have to focus on how ugly she was when having sex with her.
And Karl Rove and the never talked about secret relationship with Scooter Libby; have you seen Karl Rove wife.
The Hypocrisy of these Rethuglicans and their private secrete affairs; if they want to write a book that will sale you could start with these three things. The truth is always a greater story than the pack of lies they print.
61 ferrofluid Says: Edwin Hussein @ 55:
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Anyone know if there is a transcription of the video? It all sounds like Charlie Brown's teacher to me. (Waah wha whant wah...I'm guessing this wasn't professional audio/video). I'd like to know what the questions and her replies were.
Glad they stepped to her. Is it me or is the entire democratic leadership a bunch of sell out cowards?
She makes me sick....as does the Latter-day Joe Lieberman...A.K.A: Harry Reid.
Yeah, I would love the transcript for that fiasco. All I got was that she blurted that she upheld the constitution. and then all the wingnut applauded.
I was so excited to see the first woman speaker of the house, but so disappointed that she become a derelict of her duties. Can't imagine that her book would be something that I would want my daughter to read. To sellout your country for corporate shill. What kind of message is that for the American daughters? Know your power, that your powerless to change Washington? what kind of title is that for the American daughters?
Pelosi's REAL message to America's daughters is "if you want to get ahead, don't make waves."
If Congress is getting a 9% or whatever approval rating and more than half are Democrats then maybe she and other Dems should wake up! I was excited when she took over but now I am actually looking toward supporting new candidates just to get non-action people in both parties out.
This is not the way it should be, damn it!
Well, we ARE winning the war on Tara. We've "crushed" the Taliban and "destroyed" Al Qaeda. So what good would impeachment do when we're talking about such a successful presidunce?
Pericles @ 81:
I think her message is, "See we can be corporate whores as good as any man" or "equal payola for equal sell outs"
Fuck 'em. Impeachment would be a waste of time, and give the rightwingers something to rally around. They are desperate and running scared. They stand to lose numerous seats in the House and Senate, we don't need to give them "locker room wall" material for the upcoming elections. We can investigate their asses after they leave office.
Pelosi = Complicity in War Crimes
Does anyone have any info on how her book is doing? I ,personally, hope it does poorly enough to send her some kind of message, and I wish she would get forced into a debate with Cindy Sheehan. a BIG message needs to be sent to her that she cant blame everyone but herself, and it was even more evidence how disconnected she is to the world outside the 1984-world 'Beltway' when she sounded surprised about the uproar over the FISA Bill she shoved thru' in 24 hrs.,with NO amendments allowed !, and remarked that (paraphrasing here)' MAYBE there should have been more time given to this.., clueless or complicit? I dont know, but with her knowing about the torture regimen early, and the (undisclosed, until recently) 400 million dollar gift to Cheney/Bush war mongering with Iran...which is called 'terrorism' when other countries sponsor covert operations against govts. , it looks like spying on the 'opposition' maybe really is a goldmine considering it can be used to legalize it if caught. Harry Reid also could have put the Leahy Bill,without immunity for federal crimes, on the TABLE...
84 Rasputin Says: Pericles @ 81:
Pelosi’s REAL message to America’s daughters is “if you want to get ahead, don’t make waves.”
I think her message is, “See we can be corporate whores as good as any man” or “equal payola for equal sell outs”
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Or how to cower and be subservient. How to abandon your principals for fast cash. How to look great (via plastic surgery) while you sell your country's children's future out from under them. How to go with the flow and write a book for profit about it. How to be ineffectual, but still snag a good title. How to be a c*nt and get paid for it. Get my drift?
The Truth Hurts @ 1:
I'll second that motion. Yup, time for another strongly worded email to the c*nt.
Leadership @ 6:
I couldn't agree more with what you!
This is an exclusive story that was filmed and written by Jason Leopold and Alan Breslauer of The Public Record both of whom risked arrest to obtain the footage and write the story. The right thing to do is to link directly to their website where this was first published instead of the LA Times. And while we're at it how about applauding Jason and Alan for bringing this to our attention.
The website: www.pubrecord.org
jesus zimmerman @ 3:
That should be "americans" and country I think ........
gar man @ 17:
You must of been reading the old version.
Orangutan. @ 52:
Very much so.
JasonS @ 7:
Put her on the water boarding table .........
yenehC hcaepmI @ 46:
By conservative estimates is about 95% of the population.
She's as worthless as W and the rest of the scrotum less Dem's and that included Obama...they all conspired to keep the war going and put the country into bankruptcy.
JCB
Shag @ 85:
Not at all, they are just giving out the usual smoke and mirrors, there is no running or fear there. The US is fucked, though they got their dollar so anyone who does anything from their side now is a rat leaving the ship who is just making a last minute display to be remembered for saying something as the US people can't remember 5 mins ago and don't think about it anyway.
Jimmy Carl Black @ 94:
That would be a good thing, it would slow down the damage the US is doing and make it pull back from raping the world.
The only person that is respected less by her own Party is W.
Yes Nancy it really is that bad! Now get out of the way and let
someone who is actualy respected lead.
At the end of the clip didn't she say she couldn't bring up impeachment because the Republicans wouldn't let her have a vote on it? What the hell is that?!!! This woman is such a craven idiot I that I can't figure out how she has managed to fool the people of California for so long.
She took an oath, that's step one. Step two is to carry out that oath. She hasn't done it.
There has to be a hell of a lot more fear driven into Pelosi and the rest of the Democrats in Washington. I don't mean fear of Republicans, we already know Democrats in Washington are terrified of them. But fear of the people. I would like to see a whole room full of people yelling at her. They people of Cal. who can't stand this liar need to look at her book signing schedule and go buy all the tickets to each event, show up and let her have it. Then when she goes to her next event the same thing happens. Screw her stupid book. If she would actually do what she took an oath to do she wouldn't have any time to write a hard cover version of Cosmo and try and sell it young women who should never look up to her as anything but a coward.
doubtingthomas @ 91:
Excellent link and story. Thank You.
I will never understand why Pelosi make such a broadsweeping declaration that "impeachment was off the table."
Impeachment can never be off the table for ANY president at ANY time. It's Congresses duty to impeach if the president is suspected (in the case of George, proven) to have commited crimes.
Those people were clapping because they think it's "impolite" to interupt her carefully planned interview.
Kudos to the protesters! Some things are too important not to be outraged!
doubtingthomas @ 91 Thanks for the kind words and the link. You saved me some indignation. As doubtingthomas says this was and is an exclusive story at The Public Record, www.pubrecord.org. We appreciate how much you're enjoying the story. You can find a much longer version and unedited video at our website. We also have a lot of other great articles I think you'll enjoy.
Thanks,
Matt Shershow
The Public Record
I really, really like and respect Nancy Pelosi, but I just cannot defend her, when she is clearly not doing her job.
I believe that even if she took Impeachment off the table, it would not pass anyhow, with the present gang in charge, but she would have been off the hook. Instead she wants to take the heat and that is exactly what she will continue to get.
That visit to the White House that she and Harry Reid made, is clearly a factor in this stand off, but it will not protect her or him from the people who know that something is clearly wrong.
Media Concepts @ 43:
Exactly. What a pity the assembled crowd cheered like sycophants.
jesus zimmerman @ 3:
Hey! At least she chose a safe venue....Israel LOVES Pelosi!!!
Mike Peploe @ 8:
I disagree. Nancy Pelosi is being responsible. THere is not enough votes to do jack shit! Impeachment would be a waste of time and garner even less votes on issues that require republicans to vote with dems.
So.... while a movement to impeach sounds fine to me... the process of actually carrying it out is just plain "stoopid" at this time.
When, exactly would this get voted on, debated, and not to mention agreed to be investigated by an attorney general???
Do you suggest we do it during the election??
NOT. POSSIBLE!
Bush & co. scammed America and set up his "cover-your-ass" administration and lap dogs in power from day one.
Until we get a democratic president and enough votes in both house and senate, we are stuck.
At this point, NOTHING should get in the way of winning this presidential election. We'll be lucky if we get an inherent contempt on those who may have evidence of Bush being guilty of impeachment.
So give Nancy a break.
You have no idea what kinda crap Shrubby could have done if she had not been so vigilant so far.
At least Bush is not doing recess appointments anymore.
Pelosi and Lieberman . . . sounds like a great "back seat at the drive-in" dry hump scene. Two DEMentedREPUGS.
I have nothing to add to everyone's sentiments here and I agree with nearly all of it.....comment no. 105 aside. To E. Skyhawk I say, what's more important than addressing high crimes and misdemeanors when there is enough evidence, circumstantial and direct, to at the very least, investigate. Being too afraid of losing an election is not a good enough reason to allow members of the government to get away with what amounts to murder. If this country doesn't demonstrate that no one is above the law then we are no longer a free country bound by laws. We will have lost our moral center for sure. Impeachment is the only way to restore faith in the constitution and the spirit that this country was founded on.
Fricken Pelosi, thanks for being the biggest wimp in office.
once more, does anyone know how her book sales are going? Plus its amazing that she can talk about the 'political' effect of investigating possible war crimes (if there are no war crimes in this cabal of Cheney/Bush & cronies..then the 'war criminal' definition just doesn't exist anymore) and talk about any Congressional achievements(?) as if they can be compensatory for all the lost lives ,and future of so many innocent people..worldwide..I am beginning to really believe she is not so hamstrung by opposition as she is by trying to excuse her own choices, and those are choices she made..look at my above comment (87)...but again... does anyone know how her book sales are going ?
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The Speaker was correct to claim she took an Oath to support and defend the Constitution of the U.S.A....
The Speaker was incorrect to state that she actually does support and defend the Constitution of the U.S.A....
...when she selectively omits aspects of the Constitution of the U.S.A. for political convenience.
Talk about being partisan there, Nancy.
Try supporting and defending the "ENTIRE" Constitution of the U.S.A. not just what suits your purposes for political gain.
It is wrong to label her a "Liberal". She is funded by Fascists that seek to undermine the People for monetary gains.
It is wrong to label her a "Liberal" when she fails the People in deference to aspirations of political dominance... After all, is what she's doing any different than what Newt meant to do with the Republican "SUPER MAJORITY" in the 90's?
THINK ABOUT IT!
What is Nancy supporting and defending IF NOT the entire Constitution of the U.S.A.
IMPEACH PELOSI
for OBSTRUCTION of the PEOPLE'S JUSTICE!
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Q U E S T I O N:
How does Nancy Pelosi define bipartisanship?
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A: By compromising American principles to placate the Fascist Party.
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Who the hell are those people applauding when the protesters are shut up? Pelosi's all "I took an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States", crowd goes wild, protesters are removed. Who are these people? Are these Democrats? WTF?
"Argh...someone...thinking...outside...of...box. Can't...comprehend. Head...feels...like...will...explode......!!"
No Impeachment garauntees one last play @ long planned war in Iran, martial law, no election, no trials, no testimony, no more republic, ... thanks for the tax dollars!
Maybe Nancy was hoping they'll just be nice and play by the rules? She doesn't understand what/who she's dealing with? Naw I don't believe anyone educated and in a position of authority with world class resources and advice could be so vapid. She's taking her turn playing dumb 'cause else you catch a bullet or get christmas cards from Fort Dietrich, or some depatterned cut out smokes you off on live tv.
she deserves nothing less than our utter contempt, for her duplicity in covering up the right wing neocons GOPs crimes.
Pelosi is a Traitor to Her Oath & Our Constitution
Support Cindy Sheehan in opposition to Pelosi.
And
Use Your Power To Force Impeach Hearings Now or lose it forever
"As John Dean points out, Bush/Cheney have broken the same laws Nixon did, only Nixon's actions did not cost the lives of over 4000 brave American men and women" (and over 30,000 GIs wounded, one Million Iraqis Killed).
Bush and Cheney are the most impeachable US executives in American history. If the Incumbent House Democrats do not hold impeachment hearings soon it will be plain to all that they are Traitors to their Oath Of Office and to Our Constitution.
The failure of the House Democrats to hold Bush and Cheney accountable for the WMD Lies is unforgiveable. The Democrats lied to us about Stopping The Iraq War in 2006 and then proceeded to fund it thru 2009. Even the Democratic Base will not support them in the November election.
No matter what Bush/Cheney Crimes evidence comes out the Incumbent House Democrats will try to ignore it. It is time for some tough love for Incumbent House Democrats.
How can we make Impeachment Hearings Happen?
Arrayed against impeachment literally, is nearly the entire Democratic Party establishment as well as most Republican Congressmen. But the Democrats control Congress and can start Impeachment Hearings with a simple majority vote. They have the votes. We just have to make them do it.
Most rank and file Democratic voters want Impeachment but are being ignored by the Democratic Congress.
In addition, many of the so called progressive organizations are also in cahoots with the House Democrat and Pelosi (such as: MoveOn, ACLU & UFPJ ) and are against impeachment. It will take a very hard fight to over come this and some real courage on the part of Democratic voters.
MoveOn could cause the Democrats to hold Impeachment Hearings all by itself but refuses.
UFPJ once said it was for impeachment but refuses to take its 1,400 local activist groups to the street to support impeachment hearings. Is it lying?
ACLU (don't get me going) was the primary leader in causing impeachment hearings for President Nixon, but today refuses to do so. If the hundreds of violations of Our Constitution by Bush and Cheney are so much worse than Nixon... Why in Hell isn't ACLU supporting it? What underhanded deal have they made with the Incumbent House Democrats and Pelosi?
In Colorado we have actually been doing negative campaigning against all incumbent Democratic Congressmen who reject impeachment.
We have a Congressman Udall who is running to be a Senator from Colorado. He supposedly has a liberal background but is moving right as fast as he can. He avoids all protesters who want to stop the Iraq War funding and who support impeachment. The difficult aspect is that the Colorado Democratic Party, the Denver Media, and most Colorado Progressive organizations are helping him avoid us, However, we have had contacts from strong Udall supporters and bloggers asking us to back off. We know we are having an effect on Udall's Campaign.
The race for the US Senate from Colorado is statistically "too close to call", so we have a real chance to make a difference here. We believe that since the race is "so close" that we actually can stop Udall from winning and going to the Senate.
The way we are doing this is by doing "Negative Protesting" at our weekly impeachment events, at all of Udalls public events. We only have to sway the vote of a very small percentage of voters to keep Udall out of the Senate. This is doable.
Up until about two weeks ago, the honking at our weekly events had quadrupled since January. Then we used much "tougher" anti-Udall language on our signs and the honking doubled again. So much so that the Denver Police came and threatened arrest if we continued to use "honk to impeach" signs and also threatened us with citations for "disturbing the peace". A strong indication that we are getting to the Democratic establishment and that the public is with us.
Given that impeachment advocates have worked hard to lobby Congress to hold hearings and have done so for many years with no results, we think it is time for all impeachment advocates to try a different tactic, to get tough with Incumbent House Democrats.
The House Democrats have ignored us for years. Unless we threaten to un-elect them with negative campaigning they will continue to ignore us. The only thing they care about is getting re-elected.
Unless Angry Liberal Democrats, Independents, Republicans, Greens and the rest of you get off the couch and carry signs in front of all Incumbent House Democratic Congressmen's offices with harsh language such as
"UDALL is a Traitor to Our Constitution because he Refuses To impeach"...
There Will Be No Impeachment and No Accountability.
It is up to you.
John H Kennedy, Denver CO, 43 yr Democratic voter,
Obama delegate to the Denver County Democratic Convention, organizer of the
IMPEACH COLORADO COALITION http://ImpeachCO.com
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Damn. That's all I can say. Damn. If this keeps up, I'm voting for Nader in 2012.
as it was a mistake for the repugs to allow newt the leadership after he worked for a repug majority, it was a mistake for the dems to give nancy the leadership
even here, she proves that she was not ready to lead....blaming the repugs for her inefectiveness
that maybe true...but it doesnt matter
she is the one who said that impeachment was off the table....she is the one who has allowed compromises on bills such as fisa
she is impompetent
dont say i didnt tell you so
wish someone would listen to me
oh, and i know that obama isnt the savior
85 Shag Says:
Ummm...
Setting a precedence is the turning of a blind eye to the crimes they commit while in Office... especially when so evidently apparent to the People is to inform ALL future generations that as long as they can be the President or Vice President of the U.S.A. you can be a war criminal too! That as long as you can be the Speaker of the House you too can be fully informed of the level of war crimes, especially in regards to willful violations of basic human Rights as agreed to by the Senate decades ago, specifically the use of TORTURE and the signed treaties of the Geneva Conventions... and still choose to not speak up and NOT be held culpable.
As long as they retain their Offices, the precedence is set, ALL High Officials can act unlawfully and act against National Security... because the scope of their job allows such behavior.
As was decided Tuesday by appeals court Judge who dismissed former CIA analyst Valerie Plame's lawsuit against Vice President Dick Cheney and several former Bush administration officials for disclosing her identity to the public. ""The conduct, then, was in the defendants' scope of employment regardless of whether it was unlawful or contrary to the national security of the United States," Appeals Court Chief Judge David Sentelle wrote in the opinion.
Notice that Sentelle did not cite the precedence as contained inherently within the Constitution that the Office allows civil charges leveraged only upon IMPEACHMENT, but instead deferring to Justice Bates ruling that the Vice President of the U.S.A. can commit acts of Treason and his Office allows for such acts against the Nation, IF he can claim it is in an honest effort of National Security.
O-RLY?
Isn't this why IMPEACHMENT is mentioned SIX TIMES in the Constitution as the only remedy for those who do commit High Crimes, Treason or Bribery? Then who does it serve by not respecting these inherently important aspects of the Constitution? Most certainly NOT the Republic... NO?
Who does it serve to allow such egregious acts against the Republic by turning a blind eye when said acts are committed?
You can not guarantee that Bush, himself, won't pardon these crimes. How, then, can these traitors be held accountable once pardoned for any crimes they may have committed?
AGAIN! Nancy took an Oath to support and defend the ENTIRE Constitution, NOT what suits her politically, which seems to indicate a political CYA. SHE'S IN ON IT!
She's been briefed on TORTURE well before Congress ever was.
She's been briefed on warrantless spying well before Congress ever was.
She's taken an oath of allegiance to protect and serve the President of the U.S.A. , similarly so as Monica Goodling... Who presidential protectorate Mukasey refuses to prosecute for the same oath of allegiance.
AMERICA...
... consider this ---- The Coup took place decades ago. We're just now catching on because they "allow" the appearance that citizens can vote... but the software is now proprietary information and the People are not allowed to review it. WHO COUNTS YOUR VOTE? The Republicrats PWN-R-VOTE!
AMERICA...
... consider this --- "Support the troops, go shopping" and pad the corporate enterprise and profit machine. Buy made in Taiwan or China because "made in America" is now a legend of itself.
America...
... Cameras in the public Tiananmen Squares of America
... Indoctrination of the children with "Tracking software" and "ID" finger printing
... 1957 Communistic Memos mimic the memos of the Bush's National Security Counsel's
... Restriction of the free exchange of ideas in the public news and soon to be inter-webs
... Tasers are the control device of the public, less obtrusive yet can still effectively kill
... Papers Please will be your pass to move from State to State
America...
... The new soft Communistic Corporate State that really wants to become a Fascist Empire.
Q U E S T I O N:
How is Nancy Pelosi, or ANY serving U.S. House Representative supporting and defending the Constitution of the U.S.A. when they purposefully evade and excuse their obligation to the Republic by exhibiting gross mental reservations to act in a Patriotic manner? Didn't they swear to do so... FAITHFULLY? With true ALLEGIANCE TO THE SAME(read, for the Republic)?
This is High Treason, and to turn a blind eye to it is to tolerate it.
BTW... STILL, NO AMERICAN HAS THE ABILITY TO ACT CIVILLY, IN A COURT OF LAW TO PROTECT THEMSELVES FROM UNWARRANTED SEARCHES AND SEIZURES ORDERED BY ANY ADMINISTRATION AND PERSUE JUSTICE SHOULD THEIR LONG GONE PRIVACY BE SURVEILED, WARRANTLESSLY!... CONGRESS HAS SEEN TO THIS MUCH!
p.s.
sorry for the brevity[/snark]
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112 Steven Greenstreet Asks:
THEY ARE THE GOOD GERMANS of the 21st Century
THEY ARE IGNORANT because to be so is to be a GOOD AMERICAN...
105 E. Skyhawk Says:
PROVE IT!
Where's the case for the Senate to vote on when she's refusing to even initiate an impeachment investigation.
You're claiming it ethically moral to NOT proceed with an investigation of a crime because you won't have a conviction and that the ONLY sure fire way to secure said verdict is to ensure that you don't have an acquittal instead...
... sound familiar? If not, Google Gitmo Tribunals.
Isn't your argument an argument that is being used to shield the Senate from having to explain why TREASON is lawful? Why FISA and Forth Amendment violations are lawful? That wars of aggression are lawful? That defrauding the Senate is lawful?
America deserves that debate... then we can see just who supports and defends the Republic and Her Constitution!
... NO?
Remember, the House of Representatives is the People's House. It is important, that even if an acquittal is granted from the Senate, that it be on Congressional record that NO PRESIDENT, VICE PRESIDENT and House Speaker can act against the Republic... THE PEOPLE SAY SO!
WHY argue to NOT allow such a record to be made?
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I like Pelosi and think that she has been a very able speaker under the circumstances. I hope she returns but if she is losing her popularity in her district then the people will elect someone else. I don't feel she should have taken impeachment off the table but understand why she did. I don't particularly like the name calling but understand the anger as it appears our government is allowing us so little in ways of communicating with it.
121 donmyers Says:
Don, I haven't called her any names and I agree, no one need to resort to shallow attacks of character when obviously you seem to feel that being a shallow character, as Pelosi is, is just fine with you.
You understand the anger, yet support her inaction.
You understand the circumstances yet support her lack of conviction.
You don't feel she should have abdicated from IMPEACHMENT, yet tolerate unaccountability...
... by not holding her accountable when you accommodate excuses for her cowardice.
... You exemplify what is wrong with America...
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Come election day people will learn and see that San Francisco is by far no longer the liberal bastion it once was. Cindy will NOT win and Pelosi will still be in office making sure that impeachment is "off the table." I lived in that city for over four years and heard complaints from many a local that many of the true local citizens were priced out by dot-commers and 20 something corporate yuppie types. The last time I was there an average crappy middle income home was around the $850,000.00 range, forget about a decent home which would definitely cost more.
Increasingly the average citizen of SF uses the window dressing of saying they are liberals, but in reality they are die hard greedy republicans out for any buck they can get their hands on, and they sure as heck won't vote out a fellow shill such as Pelosi because she really DOES represent them.
Must be a room full of dumbasses if they believe the republicans can stop an impeachment vote. Nancy alone is stopping it.
Patience people, patience. The Bush Admin. ain't going to get away with it. They WILL be held accountable.
.....I don’t particularly like the name calling but understand the anger as it appears our government is allowing us so little in ways of communicating with it......
Well you could do what the people of Spain did when they ousted Aznar but I notice all you young people are still just sitting at your computers complaining.
I had high hopes for Nancy when she first got the Speaker job, but when we needed a leader to stand up to the crimes of the White House, we instead got a leader who is nothing more then George Bush's "House" Wife.
She should be impeached so we can get someone in there who not only takes the oath of office but actaully understands what all the words in that oath actually mean and who will stand up for the rule of law.
And everyone who was in that room cheering for Nancy should be ashamed of themselves!
125 Centrocitta Says: Patience people, patience. The Bush Admin. ain’t going to get away with it. They WILL be held accountable.
I don't mean to be so cynical, but what are you basing this on?
Nixon being held to accountability? or maybe when they held Reagan accountable for his crimes? No we will get another leader (Obama or not) who will simply sweep this all under the rug by saying bullshit like "We need to look forward"
well, part of looking forward is taking a look at the crimes committed so we don't repeat them. But if we held Nixon or Reagan accountable then we might not have these problems today!
Our only hope is that an international committy arrests these assholes and puts them on trial. And I'm not even sure we should expect that!
Rep. Pelosi should be shown Keith Olbermann's piece on Mr. Ng who was held by Immigration Customs Enforcement until he died in custody. Shackled, in pain and denied medical treatment, the man died! As KO points out, WE the people of George Bush's America KILLED Him!
Way to go Rep. Pelosi!
Protesters in L.A. slam Pelosi...
What did they do, keep chanting her purse and shoes didn't match?
Maybe nancy should be shopping with condi.
Thank you Skyhawk for a sensible post. The rest of
the impeachment crowd sound nuts. It's never going
to happen. I would love to watch a debate between
Pelosi & the cowards in this blog who insult the lady.
She would clean your clocks in a second.
That Enabler of the House! If she really did take an oath of the office, there would be more progress and checks and balances.
Is promising to uphold and defend the Constitution now an empty promise??
I remember all the doom and gloom the neo-cons, et. al. said was going to happen with Rep. Pelosi as the Speaker of the House...well, wrong again!
She has been nothing but a shill for the President and his band of merry people who I wish would become convicts. Are you still innocent until proven guilty in this country? With all the shredding of the Constitution, sometimes I forget. Oh yeah, Guilty until proven innocent, that's it, go ask Mr. Ng, oh wait, he died while waiting on a deportation hearing!
As much as we all take Rep. Pelosi to task for not putting impeachment back on the table, you have to admire Rep. Kucinich for standing up with his articles of impeachment. Where are all the other representatives? Why haven't they moved impeachment back onto the table?
I was so optimistic in 2006. I'm very optimistic now and feel with confidence that Sen. Obama WILL be the next President of the U.S. but I CANNOT forgive or forget what BushCo has done during the last eight years. Where is BUSH today? On vacation. He needed it after his vacation to Beijing where he worked wonders flying the flag wrong and pissing off the Chinese. What was the stat? 2.5 YEARS on vacation? Pretty good work if you can get it, huh?
Is an American citizen allowed to make a citizen's arrest?
What if, on 20 January, 2009, five seconds after President Obama is sworn in, a citizen arrests W. Wouldn't that be a delicious!
E. Skyhawk @ 105:
She has more ability than any other member of Congress to move consensus towards impeachment. She has the Constitutional structure of her position, the inherent bartering abilities her position has, her influence in the majority party to control agendas, her access to media, etc., etc. But, executing her oath and duties faithfully means she would have to work, take risks, and basically act not react. Her term is 2 years, not 20 years, but she and other lifers have corrupted the spirit of the structure of the House. So, she should resign, as she puts serving her self interests ahead of the interests of the American people. And, any sense of life, let alone strength, from Dems in the Congress would surely help increase votes for the party this year.
jesus zimmerman @ 3:
Seriously,... listening to that clapping is the same creepy feeling when people were cheering during book burnings in Berlin,...
Sorry to use the endless nazi comparison, but we are living in George Orwell's worst nightmare come to pass,...
What's the deal? I click on "The Public Record broke the story." and something about the Ottoman Empire opens.
Looks like the Public Record site was hacked
Suggestion: we form an independent group basically to pool money, and spend it on PIs to investigate Pelosi. She is dirty and the WH knows it because of illegal domestic spying.
Pelosi is dirty and THAT is why she will do absolutely nothing to uphold and defend the Constitution. She is placing her political career (and her personal comfort and freedom) before her absolutist oath to the Constitution.
We need to hire PIs and make her scared shitless. Force her to resign AND send a signal. We could then sic the PIs on other traitorous Dems in Congress (Hoyer, Emmanuel).
Seems that Nancy is riding her fame on being the first female speaker of the house, and I think we owe it to her to also let her be the first female speaker of the house to be impeach!
surfjac @ 135:
Some outstanding, brave, patriot souls tried that on Rove I think...and ended up in jail I believe.
But yeah...that would be sweet sweet justice!
Are those regular dems susshing the protesters? Who are they, old ladies? Apparently.
<iNancy Pelosi is being responsible. THere is not enough votes to do jack shit! Impeachment would be a waste of time and garner even less votes on issues that require republicans to vote with dems.
Well, that's logical. It certainly stopped the Republican House in 1998 when they impeached Clinton. They must have known that they didn't have enough votes in the Senate to get a conviction. But they went ahead anyway because they believed it was the right thing to do.
The constitution virtually dictates that we push impreachment proceedings as far as they can go, without assuming where they will stall and die. We're furious at Pelosi for not even considering impeachment. Her explanation has always been that if she put it on the table, the Democrats would lose the House majority for years. Does that make any sense?
Under this logic, no president should ever be impeached going forward. Pelosi has not argued that impeachment is off the table. She is arguing that impeachment is dead. Article II, Section 4 is void. Right?
I have said it before, and I will say it again. Retroactive impeachment is still an option. If the Dems gain seats in the House and Senate, and Obama takes the White House, maybe Pelosi will let impeachment happen. Rice, Bush and Cheney need to be held accountable.
Blinky gets pwned! Thanks C&L, this was totally refreshing. Somebody said it in the beginning, take Pelosi off the table. Worthless, worthless and finally worthless.
The only way to send Pelsoi and Reid and other weak-minded Dems is to vote for their opponents.
Perhaps some of these political f*cks should stop writing books and do what they were elected to do.
Reid and Pelosi have been the biggest loosers. Should NEVER EVER be re elected.
Worthless sh*tpies
The public record site is back up now.
I only hope the voters in San Francisco, my home town, turn Spineless Nancy out!
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