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McCain's 'lobbyist problem' manages to get worse

There were a couple of weeks in May that were rather embarrassing for the McCain campaign. The presumptive Republican nominee had developed a reputation as a politician who had little use for high-priced DC lobbyists, but it quickly became obvious that his entire campaign operation was being run by … high-priced DC lobbyists. In one eight-day stretch, McCain had to fire five lobbyists from key campaign roles because of their lobbying clients.

And that was before Randy Scheunemann was added to the mix. He may very well prove to be the most problematic of them all.

John McCain’s chief foreign policy adviser and his business partner lobbied the senator or his staff on 49 occasions in a 3 1/2-year span while being paid hundreds of thousands of dollars by the government of the former Soviet republic of Georgia.

The payments raise ethical questions about the intersection of Randy Scheunemann’s personal financial interests and his advice to the Republican presidential candidate who is seizing on Russian aggression in Georgia as a campaign issue.

McCain warned Russian leaders Tuesday that their assault in Georgia risks “the benefits they enjoy from being part of the civilized world.”

On April 17, a month and a half after Scheunemann stopped working for Georgia, his partner signed a $200,000 agreement with the Georgian government. The deal added to an arrangement that brought in more than $800,000 to the two-man firm from 2004 to mid-2007. For the duration of the campaign, Scheunemann is taking a leave of absence from the firm.

“Scheunemann’s work as a lobbyist poses valid questions about McCain’s judgment in choosing someone who — and whose firm — are paid to promote the interests of other nations,” New York University law professor Stephen Gillers told the AP. “So one must ask whether McCain is getting disinterested advice, at least when the issues concern those nations.”

This is pretty messy. On April 17, the day that Scheunemann’s firm was signing a lucrative deal with the Georgian government, Scheunemann also prepped John McCain for a phone call with the Georgian president and helped McCain with a public statement of support for Georgia.

It’s fair to say the line between Scheunemann’s lobbying and Scheunemann’s role atop McCain’s foreign policy shop were more than a little blurred.

The WaPo’s piece on this today paints a damaging picture.

At the time of McCain’s call, Scheunemann had formally ceased his own lobbying work for Georgia, according to federal disclosure reports. But he was still part of Orion Strategies, which had only two lobbyists, himself and Mike Mitchell.

Scheunemann remained with the firm for another month, until May 15, when the McCain campaign imposed a tough new anti-lobbyist policy and he was required to separate himself from the company. […]

For months while McCain’s presidential campaign was gearing up, Scheunemann held dual roles, advising the candidate on foreign policy while working as Georgia’s lobbyist. Between Jan. 1, 2007, and May 15, 2008, the campaign paid Scheunemann nearly $70,000 to provide foreign policy advice. During the same period, the government of Georgia paid his firm $290,000 in lobbying fees.

Since 2004, Orion has collected $800,000 from the government of Georgia.

And Scheunemann may not have a role as a lobbyist for his company right now, Orion is still partly his company.

This may seem a little complicated, but it’s really not — McCain is being guided on Georgian policy by a former lobbyist for the Georgian government, while the lobbyist’s company is still employed by the Georgian government. James Thurber, a lobbying expert at American University, told the WaPo, “The question is, who is the client? Is the adviser loyal to income from a foreign client, or is he loyal to the candidate he is working for now? It’s dangerous if you’re getting advice from people who are very close to countries on one side or another of a conflict.”

Josh Marshall added: “After you read the article it’s astonishing that Scheunemann is even still with the campaign. And it just adds to the continuing mystery of how McCain preserves this image of being the scourge of lobbyists when he is almost a caricature of the kind of politician whose conduct is managed by a series of lobbyists who manage his actions on almost every point of policy.”

Complicating matters, ThinkProgress has a provocative item, raising the question of whether Scheunemann “may have used his position in the McCain campaign for his own financial benefit by advancing the interests of his former lobbying client, the Georgian government.”

McCain has made a series of spectacular mistakes in recent years, but hiring a bunch of lobbyists to run his entire campaign operation really moves the needle on the Bad-Judgment-O-Meter.

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Limp-Dick Blimpaugh's picture

McBush is just as crooked as any other Reslug.

That's not conflict of interest.

It's good, ol' Murkin 'entrepreneurialism.'

Sell-out to the highest (or if on a contract, the lowest) bidder...

Why do you hate Murka, Steve???

constituent's picture

NEOCON's gone wild!

lj's picture

Hit it, hit it, hit it! This one may have legs. Where else has this assumption of Presidency been going on?

Jo's picture

So who's lobbying for us, the citizens of the U.S.?

Che's Lounge's picture

Was he involved in the project to insert a capitalist puppet into a resource (target) rich nationstate and then arm them to the teeth? Because that's what happened.

liberalNmoderation's picture

Jo @ 5:

So who's lobbying for us, the citizens of the U.S.?

I believe that is the $64,000 question.

rain's picture

AH-HA! The plot thickens!

tx's picture

MORE WAR FOR EVERYONE!

John McCain, speaking to Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili, trying his best to turn Russia's invasion of Georgia into 9/11:

"I know I speak for every American when I say to him, today, we are all Georgians,"

I think I speak for most Americans when I say:

"Does he mean the state?"

In all seriousness, if the battle over South Ossetia is 9/11, then didn't McCain just commit us to a military response, since that's how the United States responded in the aftermath of the WTC attacks? The election hasn't even happened yet and he's trying to start new wars.

Some people might call that "presumptuous."

liberalNmoderation's picture

Che's Lounge @ 6:

Was he involved in the project to insert a capitalist puppet into a resource (target) rich nationstate and then arm them to the teeth? Because that's what happened.

Noooooooo....McBain?! Do somethin like that? Never! The fact that his advisor was a lobbyist for the country in question....mere coincidence, nothing more!

Who's Kissenger now?'s picture

But none of the MSM is hitting on this so how are the normal Dude's and Dude-ettes gonna
get this info? They won't so it's a non issue and just another "get over" by the re-pubic-lans. Sucks hard but this is where we're at now. The Karl Rove's and the Faux Nudes of the world keep getting away with shit that no Demo or Independent (except Liberman) could ever get away with.

Mick Piobr's picture

All politicians and their operatives should be forced to wear jumpsuits; Blue for Dims, red for pubes, paisley for greens, red white and blue for Kucinich etc.
Whenever a politician takes a contribution from a corporation they have to sew a patch of that corporate logo onto the jumpsuit ala NASCAR (Cheney has to go nekkid except for a Halliburton sandwichboard sign)
I'm glad I was able to solve that.

R.A.M.'s picture

“The question is, who is the client? Is the adviser loyal to income from a foreign client, or is he loyal to the candidate he is working for now? It’s dangerous if you’re getting advice from people who are very close to countries on one side or another of a conflict.”

I think that people are being a bit contradictory/hypocritical here. How long has Israel lobbied our Congressmen? How often have we sidestepped our own national interest for the interest of Israel? Why do our leaders have to "kiss the ring" of Israel before getting elected?

So, it's okay to do all of this stuff for one country and not for another? What's the distinction? Both have democratic governments and come under threats from their neighbors.

The Israeli lobby is the most powerful lobby in our government. They hold more weight than any other AMERICAN special interest group in our country.

Don't freak out on Georgia's very minimal influence while turning a blind eye to Israel's.

L.A. Confidential's picture

Only "product" we're exporting is pain and misery on the rest of the world now.

JimboSlice's picture

Seems like a pretty good deal for Georgia if it works out for them. Pay McCain's croney $800,000 get the US to spend billions protecting your country.

liberalNmoderation's picture

Mick Piobr @ 12:

All politicians and their operatives should be forced to wear jumpsuits; Blue for Dims, red for pubes, paisley for greens, red white and blue for Kucinich etc.
Whenever a politician takes a contribution from a corporation they have to sew a patch of that corporate logo onto the jumpsuit ala NASCAR (Cheney has to go nekkid except for a Halliburton sandwichboard sign)
I'm glad I was able to solve that.

Me too, thanks!
Excellent idear!

Sadly, the guy on the street doesn't know about this and if he did, I doubt he would care. I wish it were different, but it's not.

constituent's picture

if people don't see what we're going to get with mccain if he is elected we're in big trouble

liberalNmoderation's picture

R.A.M. @ 13:

“The question is, who is the client? Is the adviser loyal to income from a foreign client, or is he loyal to the candidate he is working for now? It’s dangerous if you’re getting advice from people who are very close to countries on one side or another of a conflict.”

I think that people are being a bit contradictory/hypocritical here. How long has Israel lobbied our Congressmen? How often have we sidestepped our own national interest for the interest of Israel? Why do our leaders have to "kiss the ring" of Israel before getting elected?

So, it's okay to do all of this stuff for one country and not for another? What's the distinction? Both have democratic governments and come under threats from their neighbors.

The Israeli lobby is the most powerful lobby in our government. They hold more weight than any other AMERICAN special interest group in our country.

Don't freak out on Georgia's very minimal influence while turning a blind eye to Israel's.

Um...we haven't turned a blind eye to Israel...some are for it, some ain't.

L.A. Confidential's picture

JimboSlice @ 15:

Seems like a pretty good deal for Georgia if it works out for them. Pay McCain's croney $800,000 get the US to spend billions protecting your country.

Yeah the Bush-Necon farce finally exposed for what it really is in all it's glory.

Mick Piobr's picture

R.A.M. @ 13:

“The question is, who is the client? Is the adviser loyal to income from a foreign client, or is he loyal to the candidate he is working for now? It’s dangerous if you’re getting advice from people who are very close to countries on one side or another of a conflict.”

I think that people are being a bit contradictory/hypocritical here. How long has Israel lobbied our Congressmen? How often have we sidestepped our own national interest for the interest of Israel? Why do our leaders have to "kiss the ring" of Israel before getting elected?

So, it's okay to do all of this stuff for one country and not for another? What's the distinction? Both have democratic governments and come under threats from their neighbors.

The Israeli lobby is the most powerful lobby in our government. They hold more weight than any other AMERICAN special interest group in our country.

Don't freak out on Georgia's very minimal influence while turning a blind eye to Israel's.

From what I've seen on this blog, I think most people here are aware of the Israel hypocracy. That's in a different league; Israel is a big American colony which gets to do whatever it wants. The great irony of Israel is the fact that it is run by genocidal fascists.

tx's picture

MCCAIN'S PRESUMPTION.

It seems that McCain thinks he's already President of the United States and is sending his own "delegation" to Georgia consisting of Senator Lindsey Graham and Senator Joe Lieberman. (Why not Saxby Chambliss and Johnny Isakson? They are after all, the only Senators who could say "We are all Georgians now" and mean it literally.)

No doubt this will produce a flood of reports noting how cocky and presumptuous it is for McCain to be acting as though he is already President and should be formulating policy in response to the situation there. These reports will be almost as numerous as the stories noting that McCain does not have the authority to conduct negotiations on behalf of the United States, and that doing so deeply undermines the President's authority to conduct said negotiations since foreign governments can't be sure about where they actually stand with our own.

These will be followed by hysterical condemnations by Right Wingers about McCain overstepping his authority, much the same way as they did last year when they accused Nancy Pelosi of "conducting independent negotiations with foreign governments" on her trip to the Middle East when she simply reiterated U.S. Policy everywhere she went.

Of course, Pelosi wasn't being advised by someone who is being paid by the very government McCain is undermining U.S. relations with to look after their interests. I wonder what exactly the Georgian government thinks they've paid for, besides potentially a host of unrealistic promises McCain has no authority to make, but clearly only Randy Scheunemann and his clients in Tblisi know for sure.

Paul's picture

"McCain warned Russian leaders Tuesday that their assault in Georgia risks “the benefits they enjoy from being part of the civilized world.”

That's a really rich statement from the lips of McSame, who's positively drooling all over himself in his eagerness to put the finishing touches on Bush's work of turning America into the only rogue nation of any significance on planet Earth.

What a complete shithead.

surfjac's picture

“I know I speak for every American when I say to him, today, we are all Georgians,”

I'm not, never have been, will never be!
President Saakashvili had something to say about this statement. Lousy thing is, I can't find it. It was on one news show last night but I don't remember which one. It seemed that he thought that McCain's statement not at all helpful.

shaft.ed's picture

So who exactly doesn't put America first?

John McCain "Georgia First"

Jo @ 5:

So who's lobbying for us, the citizens of the U.S.?

That's SUPPOSED to be the President.

He's supposed to be a "majority of one' amid the contending influences and interests represented by the cabinet and the bureaucracy.

The President is supposed to be the advocate for the PEOPLE, not for the corpoRat fat cats who keep him in whores, drugs and booze.

This has not been true af ANY president at least since Madison. But that was the theory...

Paul's picture

Jo @ 5:

So who's lobbying for us, the citizens of the U.S.?

Jo - Ssssshhhhh! Don't you know you can be thrown in prison for asking a question like that?!?

surfjac's picture

I think Sen. McCain took a lesson from JFK when he said, "Icht been ein Berliner".
Imagine that, borrowing something from a Democratic President's speech in front of 2,000,000 Germans.

Jo's picture

Paul @ 23:

"McCain warned Russian leaders Tuesday that their assault in Georgia risks “the benefits they enjoy from being part of the civilized world.”

That's a really rich statement from the lips of McSame, who's positively drooling all over himself in his eagerness to put the finishing touches on Bush's work of turning America into the only rogue nation of any significance on planet Earth.

What a complete shithead.

I think we (we, as in U.S.) risk the benefits from being part of the civilized world if we elect McSame. I agree, complete shithead.

surfjac's picture

Icht been ien Georgian, y'awl! Sorry

surfjac @ 24:

“I know I speak for every American when I say to him, today, we are all Georgians,”

I'm not, never have been, will never be!

Hey, we're ALL Caucasians now...

Jo's picture

surfjac @ 30:

Icht been ien Georgian, y'awl! Sorry

LOL!!

liberalNmoderation's picture

tx @ 22:

MCCAIN'S PRESUMPTION.

It seems that McCain thinks he's already President of the United States and is sending his own "delegation" to Georgia consisting of Senator Lindsey Graham and Senator Joe Lieberman. (Why not Saxby Chambliss and Johnny Isakson? They are after all, the only Senators who could say "We are all Georgians now" and mean it literally.)

No doubt this will produce a flood of reports noting how cocky and presumptuous it is for McCain to be acting as though he is already President and should be formulating policy in response to the situation there. These reports will be almost as numerous as the stories noting that McCain does not have the authority to conduct negotiations on behalf of the United States, and that doing so deeply undermines the President's authority to conduct said negotiations since foreign governments can't be sure about where they actually stand with our own.

These will be followed by hysterical condemnations by Right Wingers about McCain overstepping his authority, much the same way as they did last year when they accused Nancy Pelosi of "conducting independent negotiations with foreign governments" on her trip to the Middle East when she simply reiterated U.S. Policy everywhere she went.

Of course, Pelosi wasn't being advised by someone who is being paid by the very government McCain is undermining U.S. relations with to look after their interests. I wonder what exactly the Georgian government thinks they've paid for, besides potentially a host of unrealistic promises McCain has no authority to make, but clearly only Randy Scheunemann and his clients in Tblisi know for sure.

This is going to end up bad for Georgia I suspect....Russia's military is no fuckin joke.
And once Georgia has been wiped off the map...it will make the US look even worse than we already do to the rest of the world...we are on the verge of becoming Public Enemy # 1
Thank the republicans.

liberalNmoderation's picture

woody, tokin librul @ 31:

surfjac @ 24:

“I know I speak for every American when I say to him, today, we are all Georgians,”

I'm not, never have been, will never be!

Hey, we're ALL Caucasians now...

Ahem....I prefer the term..."Caucasoid" thank you!

Nicky's picture

Good heavens, you missed the best part. While Scheunemann was lobbying for Georgia in between McCain campaign stints, he got an even more fun client, the law firm that hired Jack Abramoff. Yessiree bob, the law firm that hired Jack came under investigation by John McCain's committee, so they ditched Abramoff and hired Randy.
McCain's committee gave Randy's client a clean bill of health. Heck, they were just a bunch of lawyer-lobbyists. How could they know what crooked things their associate was up to? And then Randy went back to work for Mr. Maverick P. Reformer's campaign.

If Obama does not hit this over the fence he needs to stay in Hawaii. The media will ignore it if he does not hammer it. McCain's foreign policy/foreign agent chief, lobby firm's lobbyist. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/14/us/politics/14mccain.html?_r=3&ref=pol...

This may seem a little complicated, but it’s really not — McCain is being guided on Georgian policy by a former lobbyist for the Georgian government, while the lobbyist’s company is still employed by the Georgian government. James Thurber, a lobbying expert at American University, told the WaPo, “The question is, who is the client? Is the adviser loyal to income from a foreign client, or is he loyal to the candidate he is working for now? It’s dangerous if you’re getting advice from people who are very close to countries on one side or another of a conflict.”

THE ONLY THING MISSING IS THE HAND UP McKeating5's BACK

Ron's picture

liberalNmoderation @ 34:

woody, tokin librul @ 31:

surfjac @ 24:

“I know I speak for every American when I say to him, today, we are all Georgians,”

I'm not, never have been, will never be!

Hey, we're ALL Caucasians now...

Ahem....I prefer the term..."Caucasoid" thank you!

Is that anything like macaca?

L.A. Confidential's picture

Putin's problems can be traced back to a speech he made in Munich nearly two years ago when he declared unequivocally that he rejected the basic tenets of the Bush Doctrine and US global hegemony. His speech amounted to a Russian Declaration of Independence. That's when western elites, particularly at the Council on Foreign Relations and the American Enterprise Institute put Putin on their "enemies list" along with Ahmadinejad, Chavez, Castro, Morales, Mugabe and anyone else who refuses to take orders from the Washington Mafia.

Here's what Putin said in Munich:

"The unipolar world refers to a world in which there is one master, one sovereign---- one center of authority, one center of force, one center of decision-making. At the end of the day this is pernicious not only for all those within this system, but also for the sovereign itself because it destroys itself from within.… What is even more important is that the model itself is flawed because at its basis there is and can be no moral foundations for modern civilization.”

“Unilateral and frequently illegitimate actions have not resolved any problems. Moreover, they have caused new human tragedies and created new centers of tension. Judge for yourselves---wars as well as local and regional conflicts have not diminished. More are dying than before. Significantly more, significantly more!

Today we are witnessing an almost uncontained hyper-use of force – military force – in international relations, force that is plunging the world into an abyss of permanent conflicts.

We are seeing a greater and greater disdain for the basic principles of international law. And independent legal norms are, as a matter of fact, coming increasingly closer to one state’s legal system. One state and, of course, first and foremost the United States, has overstepped its national borders in every way. This is visible in the economic, political, cultural and educational policies it imposes on other nations. Well, who likes this? Who is happy about this?

In international relations we increasingly see the desire to resolve a given question according to so-called issues of political expediency, based on the current political climate. And of course this is extremely dangerous. It results in the fact that no one feels safe. I want to emphasize this – no one feels safe! Because no one can feel that international law is like a stone wall that will protect them. Of course such a policy stimulates an arms race.

I am convinced that we have reached that decisive moment when we must seriously think about the architecture of global security.”

james k. sayre's picture

McCain may be one of a few non-President Americans ever credited with helping start a war: the slaughter of the South Ossetians by the imperial Republic of Georgia military forces. See web sites such as www.russiatoday.com to find out what has been going on in South Ossetia and the Republic of Georgia. American military forces and mercenaries from Israel have been training Georgian troops. And John McCain has been egging on President Saakashvili of the Republic of Georgia to enter South Ossetia and start slaughtering the people who lived there. The American corporate media has been compliciant with the lying war criminals Bush, Cheney, Rice and McCain in this Georgian genocide.

Mike the Riverine's picture

"Wah,Wah, Wah...the Rooskies are beating up on my client."

Tell me, Oh great and powerful McSame, where ya gonna FIND an army to stop them? Your hero Boosh shot his wad in Iraq.

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, he is the great and powerful Wizard of horseshit.

right on!'s picture

'Josh Marshall added: “After you read the article it’s astonishing that Scheunemann is even still with the campaign. And it just adds to the continuing mystery of how McCain preserves this image of being the scourge of lobbyists when he is almost a caricature of the kind of politician whose conduct is managed by a series of lobbyists who manage his actions on almost every point of policy.” '

Let's hope the pressure keeps up on McSame and his lobbyist ties as his campaign advisers too. I hope to hell that the sheeple will stop bleating and actually listen up to what's REALLY going on in McSame's race-to-be-prezidunt.

Chico Hussein's picture

McSame'olsame'ol...

"I've got Jawjah (and not much else) on ma' miiiind"

Jo's picture

Get rid of NATO. Stop plans for Star Wars. Let Putin throw Georgian prez into the gulag. Clean up the mess of U.S. armament left when Georgians fled so it doesn't get into the wrong hands. Apologize to the world for trying to set up another puppet government. Fire Condi's arse.

Or face another cold war with Russia.

Chicken Hussein Little - NOT!!'s picture

Off Topic, sorry

But seriously, would someone be kind enough to tell me where the hell McLame has come up with this number claiming that Obama will increase the taxes on people making "$42,000" in income? I can't find it and it sure is getting a lot of play. What the bleep is going on here?

Thanks, and now we return you to the McSame silliness currently being reported.

YouCantHandleDaTruth's picture

I've head nothing on this issue from the Obama campaign, this should be highlighted....being truthful and critical is fair IMHO.

Thx

YouCantHandleDaTruth's picture

Chicken Hussein Little - NOT!! @ 44:

Off Topic, sorry

But seriously, would someone be kind enough to tell me where the hell McLame has come up with this number claiming that Obama will increase the taxes on people making "$42,000" in income? I can't find it and it sure is getting a lot of play. What the bleep is going on here?

Thanks, and now we return you to the McSame silliness currently being reported.

He's out and out lying, it's easy to raise the taxes on the top 1%...Obama is doing the right thing here

cant wait for 09's picture

McLucy.....you got sum splaining to do

GoodOlWhatsisFace's picture

yeah BUT the important question our SCLM should really be asking is, Can barack HUSSEIN! osama obama's campaign recover from John Edwards' marital infidelity ??!?!!!!!1!!!

theWalrus's picture

Ssshhhh.....the MSM has to keep this story quiet. And the adultery story...and the hot temper story...and the "I don't-know-the-first-thing-about-computers-and-economics" stories..and the Keating 5 story. Otherwise, there'll be no "close" race to report on.

taller ghost walt's picture

"manages to get worse" implies he's suffered some sort of negative effects in the past.

Have not seen anything negative from our still asleep at the wheel traditional press.

eric's picture

felonious abrogation of the Logan Act by Mssrs. McCain, Lieberman and Graham...should any of them decide to take that trip East-ways..
1.
The Logan Act is a United States federal law that forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments.

It was passed in 1799 and last amended in 1994.

Violation of the Logan Act is a felony, punishable under federal law with imprisonment
of up to three years.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&add...

Peter G's picture

I can't help but wonder what McCain's position on this conflict would be if Scheunemann had been a paid lobbyist of the Russians. Hail to the Glorious Liberators no doubt.

The Truth Hurts's picture

Yeah, but McC*nt was a POW....so none of this matters.

drumas's picture

Getting cheered by 200,000 Germans waiving American flags= BAD

. . . but getting tangled in an escalating foreign conflict when you have no authority to speak on behalf of the President= GOOD

Obama can’t meet with foreign leaders without looking “uppity.” But McCain can send his surrogates to a warring nation as third parties (speaking on behalf of the US?), unilaterally grant all Americans dual citizenship with Georgia and has long threatened to kick Russia out of the G8 Summit?

Is the media calling McCain presumptuous? Has the media held hour-long discussions focusing on McCain’s need to steal the spotlight away from the President in a time of foreign crisis?

This is not a critique on the merits of the Russian/Georgian conflict or the candidates’ responses. However, acknowledge the growing double standard in the media.

It is a double standard that trusts McCain to take risks on matters of war and foreign policy that it would never allow Obama. . . a media that laughs at “bomb, bomb Iran,” songs, excuses gaffes confusing Sunnis and Shiites and doesn’t question the ethics of a candidate’s boisterous response to a foreign conflict when that candidate’s own foreign policy advisor (and firm) was paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to lobby on behalf of that foreign government.

It is a double standard that gives conservative talking heads the benefit of the doubt on foreign policy matters despite 8 years of incompetence, moving goal posts, and changing rationales for military action.

The kid gloves with which the media has handled McCain’s recent rhetoric is disappointing to say the least. The coverage has been nothing like the month long media narratives thrown at Obama. Where are the round-table discussions on John McCain’s hubris? What of his arrogance to speak over, if not for, the President throughout this Russian/Georgian conflict?

Samson-'s picture

mccain’s lobbyist addiction would be detrimental to his campaign if the msm ever (don’t laugh) put as much time and attention into this critical area as they do celebrity gossip.

Consider just 2 mccain associates.

Charlie black and his clients:
Blackwater Worldwide
Phillip Morris
Angolan warlord Jonas Savimbi
Ferdinand Marcos
Mobutu Sese Seko)
AT&T
Lockheed Martin
Occidental Petroleum
JP Morgan Chase

Randy Scheunemann
"Sen. John McCain's top foreign policy adviser prepped his boss for an April 17 phone call with the president of Georgia and then helped the presumptive Republican presidential nominee prepare a strong statement of support for the fledgling republic.
The day of the call, a lobbying firm partly owned by the adviser, Randy Scheunemann, signed a $200,000 contract to continue providing strategic advice to the Georgian government in Washington."

also, slightly O/T, i just saw this and it should make obama supporters VERY happy:

"Democrat Barack Obama has received nearly six times as much money from troops deployed overseas at the time of their contributions than has Republican John McCain"

the troops have spoken.

Nicky's picture

BaScOmBe hearts Lara Logan and Rachel Maddow @ 36:

This may seem a little complicated, but it’s really not — McCain is being guided on Georgian policy by a former lobbyist for the Georgian government, while the lobbyist’s company is still employed by the Georgian government. James Thurber, a lobbying expert at American University, told the WaPo, “The question is, who is the client? Is the adviser loyal to income from a foreign client, or is he loyal to the candidate he is working for now? It’s dangerous if you’re getting advice from people who are very close to countries on one side or another of a conflict.”

THE ONLY THING MISSING IS THE HAND UP McKeating5's BACK

Apparently the same "hand" that gave McCain a pat on the back at the Senate Ethics Committee was giving Scheunemann's clients a pat on the back from McCain;s Indian Affairs Subcommittee. Must be the famous INVISIBLE HAND of the Market. You know the market? Where Sen. L. Graham (no relation of foreign bank lobbyist P. Gramm) buys cheap rugs on his way from Iraq to Georgia.

bmw H. 528's picture

liberalNmoderation @ 7:

Jo @ 5:

So who's lobbying for us, the citizens of the U.S.?

I believe that is the $64,000 question.

Second that. This is about as brazen of a conflict of interest as it gets. If Mc Slime gets past this one unscathed then he might as well figure on getting away with anything, just like his Neocon pals do today.

bmw H. 528's picture

eric @ 51:

felonious abrogation of the Logan Act by Mssrs. McCain, Lieberman and Graham...should any of them decide to take that trip East-ways..
1.
The Logan Act is a United States federal law that forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments.

It was passed in 1799 and last amended in 1994.

Violation of the Logan Act is a felony, punishable under federal law with imprisonment
of up to three years.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3794948

Unless of course it gets the attention of a Congressional subcommittee, where a sternly worded letter to the offender will substitute for criminal prosecution.

Nicky's picture

Samson- @ 55:

mccain’s lobbyist addiction would be detrimental to his campaign if the msm ever (don’t laugh) put as much time and attention into this critical area as they do celebrity gossip.

Consider just 2 mccain associates.

Charlie black and his clients:
Blackwater Worldwide
Phillip Morris
Angolan warlord Jonas Savimbi
Ferdinand Marcos
Mobutu Sese Seko)
AT&T
Lockheed Martin
Occidental Petroleum
JP Morgan Chase

Randy Scheunemann
"Sen. John McCain's top foreign policy adviser prepped his boss for an April 17 phone call with the president of Georgia and then helped the presumptive Republican presidential nominee prepare a strong statement of support for the fledgling republic.
The day of the call, a lobbying firm partly owned by the adviser, Randy Scheunemann, signed a $200,000 contract to continue providing strategic advice to the Georgian government in Washington."

Sounds like Georgia would have a lot better chance if they hired some of Black's clients
instead of Scheunemann.

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Ron @ 37:

liberalNmoderation @ 34:

woody, tokin librul @ 31:

surfjac @ 24: Hey, we're ALL Caucasians now...

Ahem....I prefer the term..."Caucasoid" thank you!

Is that anything like macaca?

No idea, lol!
It's not unlike, crazy white peckerwood.

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bmw H. 528 @ 57:

liberalNmoderation @ 7:

Jo @ 5:

So who's lobbying for us, the citizens of the U.S.?

I believe that is the $64,000 question.

Second that. This is about as brazen of a conflict of interest as it gets. If Mc Slime gets past this one unscathed then he might as well figure on getting away with anything, just like his Neocon pals do today.

Then lets do our best to see that he does not.

Chicken Hussein Little - NOT!! @ 44:

Off Topic, sorry

But seriously, would someone be kind enough to tell me where the hell McLame has come up with this number claiming that Obama will increase the taxes on people making "$42,000" in income? I can't find it and it sure is getting a lot of play. What the bleep is going on here?

Thanks, and now we return you to the McSame silliness currently being reported.

Oh damn you, NUANCE! The bane of the simpleminded, low-info, typical GOPuke voter...
You gotta do "nuance" to conter those claims. You gotta parse sentences, and point out teh lies, exaggerations, hyperboles,. etc...
Takes too long for the attention span of the Average Murkin voter, which is roughly equivalent to that of a starving hummingbird...

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McCain’s ‘lobbyist problem’ manages to get worse

"This may seem a little complicated, but it’s really not — McCain is being guided on Georgian policy by a former lobbyist for the Georgian government, while the lobbyist’s company is still employed by the Georgian government."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thls_tMuFkc

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Seems to me that the Russians are enjoying “the benefits they enjoy from being part of the civilized world” with every liter of natural gas they sell to Western Europe. By driving up energy prices to unprecedented levels, the Bush Gang has fueled Russia's resurgence as a global power that can act decisively on behalf of its own interests. Whatever one thinks of Putin, during the same time frame in which Bush / Cheney have orchestrated the decline of U.S. hegemony, the Russian leader has brought his country back from economic and political chaos, making it perhaps the dominant player in Europe and Central Asia.

If I were Russia and China, I'd be reaching out to the rest of the world and forging a global alliance against the U.S. and it's NATO lapdogs that would put the final epitaph on the gravestone of American empire.

McCain and Obama are running for nothing more than the ignominious role of sprinkling ashes on the corpse.

theWalrus @ 49:

Ssshhhh.....the MSM has to keep this story quiet. And the adultery story...and the hot temper story...and the "I don't-know-the-first-thing-about-computers-and-economics" stories..and the Keating 5 story. Otherwise, there'll be no "close" race to report on.

they gotta keep it close, so that when the Bosses decide to steal it, it doesn't look so suspicious.

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liberalNmoderation @ 7:

Jo @ 5:

So who's lobbying for us, the citizens of the U.S.?

I believe that is the $64,000 question.

Read more carefully. The question in this game starts at $800,000!

Next game:

How much did Greenberg, Taurig (aka Jack Abramoff's employing lobby firm) have to pay Scheunemann? Did any go $ through Grover Norquist and end up with Ralph (Jesus Saves, Ralphie Launders) Reed?

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Red Army Faction @ 64:

Seems to me that the Russians are enjoying “the benefits they enjoy from being part of the civilized world” with every liter of natural gas they sell to Western Europe. By driving up energy prices to unprecedented levels, the Bush Gang has fueled Russia's resurgence as a global power that can act decisively on behalf of its own interests. Whatever one thinks of Putin, during the same time frame in which Bush / Cheney have orchestrated the decline of U.S. hegemony, the Russian leader has brought his country back from economic and political chaos, making it perhaps the dominant player in Europe and Central Asia.

If I were Russia and China, I'd be reaching out to the rest of the world and forging a global alliance against the U.S. and it's NATO lapdogs that would put the final epitaph on the gravestone of American empire.

McCain and Obama are running for nothing more than the ignominious role of sprinkling ashes on the corpse.

This one is a keeper for the VRWC blog's "hate America" files.

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How much "play/coverage" is the MSM giving this story?

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Nicky @ 68:
This one is a keeper for the VRWC blog's "hate America" files.

Nothing against America or Americans. To paraphrase Ahmedinajad: "I look forward to the day when the U.S. political system is consigned to the pages of history."

Most - though not all - Americans are also victims of a vicious political system that ruthlessly exploits innocent people around the world in pursuit of its own interests. The fact that they are typically oblivious to this is a tribute to the relentless propaganda they are fed from the mainstream media and their own government.

However, despite the fact that many innocent people are dying as a result of U.S. foreign policy, we are witnessing "the last throes" of an empire collapsing under the weight of its own overreach, the blowback generated by its militarist policies, and the utter incompetence of its leaders and the larger political class.

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West would consider withdrawing from the 2014 Winter Games in Russia

Time cover story by Zbigniew Brzezinski, national security adviser to former President Carter -- “Staring Down the Russians: The West has to show Moscow that it won’t tolerate any attempt to reassert control over Georgia or the rest of the Soviet Union”: “Russia’s aggression toward Georgia should not be viewed as an isolated incident. The fact is, Putin and his associates in the Kremlin don’t accept the post-Soviet realities. … Ukraine could well be the next flash point. …

“At some point, the West should consider the Olympic option. If the issue of Georgia’s territorial integrity is not adequately resolved (by, for example, the deployment in South Ossetia and Abkhazia of a truly independent international security force replacing Russian troops), the U.S. should contemplate withdrawing from the 2014 Winter Games, to be held in the Russian city of Sochi, next to the violated Georgia’s frontier.”

So Russia but not China?

Russia - Georgia * We need the pipelines
China - Darfur/Tibet/Zimbabwe * A bunch of un-useful countries

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Red Army Faction @ 70:

Nicky @ 68:
This one is a keeper for the VRWC blog's "hate America" files.

Nothing against America or Americans. To paraphrase Ahmedinajad: "I look forward to the day when the U.S. political system is consigned to the pages of history."

Most - though not all - Americans are also victims of a vicious political system that ruthlessly exploits innocent people around the world in pursuit of its own interests. The fact that they are typically oblivious to this is a tribute to the relentless propaganda they are fed from the mainstream media and their own government.

So very, very true; BUT it is the lazy, unconcerned, disinterested,uninformed, uneducated and stupid American public who has allowed this to occur. Yes, we
can all point our middle finger at the entire MSM and our current govermnet,but it is in reality the "people" who allow such proganganda to continue and not do something about the lies being unloaded upon them. Most are probably too busy watching
"American Gladiator", "Dancing with the Stars", "Big Brother 10", etc...just the kinds
of educational programs viewed instead of getting involved. Sad but true..

distortion. Most, apparently, are just tooooo busy with

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One Candidate always puts the United States first.

The Other puts whatever-country-pays-the-most first.

Right now that's Georgia. Tomorrow? Who knows.....

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I was at a city council meeting 5-6 years ago and there was a program being discussed that required developers to help pay for the new streets and other infrastructure that was needed as a result of the new development. Needless to say the local developers got in line to argue against the proposal on the basis that it was a tax (not) on the future residents who bought those new homes (no mention was made of the major profit they were making on the sales of the houses). At one point one of the council members said "you are all speaking well for the future residents, too bad there isn't anyone to speak for the current residents". (indeed). Then one of the brighter council members, spoke into his mic, "I think that would be us".

Funny.

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That McCorrupt is up to his ass in lobbiests gives strong indication that, if elected or installed, he will be running the exectutive end of the government for the exclusive benefit of corporate Amerika and no others. When corporatism has so penetrated the government that it is no longer possible to tell where one ends and the other begins, that is Mussillini's definition of fascism.

I think that if McShithead is so enamored of the corporate world, he should go directly to work for them, instead of pretending to work for America and its People. So, strictly in the spirit of trying to help this guy, I offer him the following link:

http://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=mcdonald%27s&bloc=1

I hope it helps.

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theWalrus @ 49:

Ssshhhh.....the MSM has to keep this story quiet. And the adultery story...and the hot temper story...and the "I don't-know-the-first-thing-about-computers-and-economics" stories..and the Keating 5 story. Otherwise, there'll be no "close" race to report on serve as a pretense for manufacturing the plausible deniability needed by those who are going to rig the election.

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surfjac @ 28:

I think Sen. McCain took a lesson from JFK when he said, "Icht been ein Berliner".
Imagine that, borrowing something from a Democratic President's speech in front of 2,000,000 Germans.

I am a Jelly Doughnut?

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McLame surrounds himself with lobbyists because he is for sale, and the lobbyists are buying!

JOHN McCAIN IS A CROOK AND LIAR!

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