August 17, 2008 12:00 PM
Jerome Corsi wrote that group tied to al-Qaeda supports McCain
Obama smear author and swiftboater Jerome Corsi is a very sick guy indeed. Not only has he been debunked by almost everybody, but now people are starting to look at his insane articles over at World Net Daily.
madasheck over at DKos has more:
And the first paragraph:
Presumptive Republican presidential nominee John McCain has enjoyed strong support from a lobbyist group that backs the Kosovo Liberation Army despite allegations the KLA is a Muslim terrorist group with ties to criminal drug networks and al-Qaida.You think the Republicans will continue to support this jerk?
Actually I do. They don't care who does the smearing as long as it helps their cause.
That group is a CIA/ Mossad front.
Now McPOW will demand an apology the Obama campaign for supporting Crosi, using the race card and for spreading rumors that he has ties to secret Muslims.
The first rule of political propaganda is "Get It Out There!"
Truth, shitooth. Throw EVERYTHING. Some of it will stick, enough that the object has to deny the claims.
In politics, when you're denying, your dying...
The Dims have unaccountably seemed to have certain scruples about this approach which has worked flawlessly for seven of the last nine National "elections."
The Republicans will continue to support anyone who is dishonest, stupid and criminal in nature. This is who they are, their mouth piece reflects their vision and goals. It's that simple.
It's like arguing with people about the bible. They can find a quote to support anything they say, and because it's in the bible it's the word of God.
PEOPLE WHOSE MEDIA EXPOSURE MYSTIFIES ME
Why do these irrelevant wankers continue to appear in my field of vision?
Corsi, Mary Matalin, Ralph Reed, Pat Buchanan, David Gregory, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, George Stephanopolous, Bob Novak (OK, he's almost gone - but not because he's a wanker), Katie Couric, Charlie Gibson, Tweety, Charlie Black, Tony Blankley, Rupert Murdoch.......you get the idea.
Not one of them elected - not one of them could get elected - but they all lust for the power, fame & bucks.
They are wrong about virtually everything they say, they are completely irrelevant and yet the media keeps them in front of our faces and encourages them to fuck our world up some more with their self-serving blather. Gag.
Enough already
Give him a break, Corsi is at least as believable as Ann Coulter. And useful as a standard of how low the publishing industry will go.
Now let's all hold our breath until this appears on the front page of the New York Times and the Washington Post. I'm sure it will be any day now.
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http://freewayblogger.blogspot.com/2008/08/leaving-los-angeles.html
there's a huge one on the 405 that's been up for three days.
This is what happens when wingnuts are legitimized.
Well, now that Corsi is going to smear McSame as well as Obama, as John said last week, "You gotta have a sense of humor".
CROOKSANDLIARS: Please stop sucking the thumb of the left. The political actors of the left and the right have no real power and control nothing. Corsi is an example of someone who sheds the light of truth on both parties demagogues, though he seems also to be a pawn.
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"despite allegations"
He's used weseal words.
nick @ 12:
"Corsi sheds the light of truth" WHAT A FUCKING NUT.
nick @ 12:
Or, you know, he did a rush hatchet job on McCain trying to thwart his chances to get the nomination, and now he's doing a hatchet job on Obama, trying to thwart his chances for the Presidency. It's not like neocons in general are rushing to be the first to guzzle McCain's member, you know.
nick @ 12:
Nick, have those meds checked at your earliest convenience.
Insane articles at World Net Daily? Oh, perish the thought.
roooth @ 6:
Possible Answer: The CFR controls American media [4 minute video clip]
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." - former CIA Director William Colby
"There's really five companies that control 90 percent of what we read, see and hear." - Ted Turner
nick @ 12:
Hey nick, Corsi is a piece of shit that spreads shit, stick your light up your ass.
Have a nice day. :)
Alarm! Alarm!
5150 loose on this thread. Everybody: back away from the nick.
nick @ 12: <---- one of the funniest comments I've read in a long time.
Funny enough on its own.
Of whom? Or what?
So, what exactly is Corsi concentrating on them for? Why would you want him to expose them? Expose them as powerless? What's going on here? Dipping into the cooking sherry too much?
Heh, and nick doesn't even know which part of the anatomy to suck to really cozy up to someone. :)
Six degrees of separation isn't enough to convince Jerome Corsi that you are not an al Qaida operative.
Do you live on planet Earth? So does al Qaida!
Do you use the internets? So does al Qaida!
Do you eat food? Guilty, guilty, guilty! Three strikes baby--straight to Hotel Gitmo!
Welcome to the kaleidoscopic paranoia of Jerome Corsi.
Surging Blue Lensman @ 17:
Who do you think Obama and Mcain serve? The point i was trying to make is that the left right paradigm is false.
Karen @ 22:
nick @ 24:
General Zod.
Generally odd.
nick @ 24:
we've all heard that before..........now what
nick @ 25:
I'm sorry. I shouldn't pick on humor-impaired Americans.
You want an intelligent discussion? Really?
nick @ 24:
To mention Corsi and truth in the same sentence nullified any point you were trying to make. And that dumbfuck left vs. right comparison should have had you in moderation.
Left&Left @ 29:
Well, nick did get one thing right. We should all give thanks for the Intelligent Karen. :)
Ruth @ 7:
That would be great if they were indeed used as the low standard, but they are not. They are consistently featured as voices of reason for the other side. Bigotry, hatefulness and blatant dishonesty are downplayed, if not outright ignored, and their voices are accorded not just equal time, but disproportionate time, and framed as a reasonable alternative to the fictitious extremes of the illusury Left.
The essence of propaganda.
nick @ 12:
nick, you'd have a point if Corsi was positioned squarely in the middle. But he's out there in John Birch/Ron Paul/Aryan Nations territory. From his pov, both McCain and Obama are to the left.
Thanks for all the hate guys, you really treat dissenters well on this board. Lunch breaks over
and also i mistyped.. i meant intelligent comment
Karen @ 30:
Thank you, Karen.
this book will be bought in volume and passed to (R) who otherwise would not have bought the book....serves two obvious purposes feed the (R) masses the less than factual nonsense and get the book on the nyt bestseller list.....
nick @ 33:
Nobody hates you, nick. We're just fuckin' with ya. Dissent is welcomed here. Your comment was just so silly, it warranted mockery, not serious discussion.
nick @ 33:
Hate?!?! You got off easy, pal. Very easy.
nick @ 33:
I don't hate you Nick, I feel for you and your fellow 29%ers. And BTW, if I said the world is flat would you consider that a dissenting opinion?
Regarding Al Quaeda supporting him, Buffalo Chip McSurge said "I'll take all the support I can get and, if I win, I will personally thank Al in person."
Karen @ 18:
This just in at WND: Bigfoot- The Blacksheep Of The Rockefeller Family.
Time to see a movie. Later...
Karen @ 36:
Thanks Karen, yeah it was pretty out there.
nick @ 41:
Is that sarcasm I sense? You hatemonger!
Liberal AND Proud @ 10:
Yes, my point exactly. These fools are imprinted on the national consciousness as some kind of reasonable experts. Like Pat Buchanan, who wrote an op-ed a couple of months ago in which he refered to black politicians as hucksters and said that blacks in America should be grateful for what America has done for them. He's an old-school George Wallace, Nixon era bigot who is on talk shows every time I turn around, presented as some sort of elder statesman.
And BTW, Nick, I know your full name. Your middle name is Wanker and your last name is Troll. You're dismissed now.
I look forward to Corsi's appearance on Hannity to talk about the McCain-al Qaeda connection.
Rusty The One Shackleford @ 44:
I don't. Because it just might happen. And they'll agree somehow that the link Corsi saw between McCain and al Qaeda proves that Obama is the antichrist.
Pastor Rick's "Saddleback Sham"
Orangutan. @ 19:
Yeah, what do you think Ted Turner would have thought of the CNN segment with 3 evangelical preachers discussing whether or not Obama was the Anti-Christ?
I don't understand this guy's agenda. First he smears Obama, now he's doing the same thing to McCain. I thought his job was to help a republican get elected.
Karen @ 42:
No, it was actually admission and realization of the nature of this board and of how my comments would be taken. Thats all.
roooth @ 43:
Of course. Legitimizing nonsense by having it discussed in serious forums (news-format shows, published books and magazines) has been the Busheviks' game all along.
Whenever someone in the Bush administration did something clearly and facially bad/wrong/stupid, myriad talking heads would yammer interminably as though there were a debate about whether the actions were bad or wrong or stupid. That's how this works.
That's how there are now two sides to whether we should torture people.
That's how there are now two sides to whether indiscriminate warrantless wiretapping of American citizens violates the Constitution.
That's how there are now two sides to everything for which nobody in her right mind sees two sides.
It doesn't always work. When Cheney's office claimed that the Vice President was not part of the executive branch, few people could say it with a straight face. So that one faded into history's dustbin. But the strategy works well. Say something. Anything. No matter how stupid. And then, if enough people pretend that its legitimacy is controversial, you'll get away with it.
nick @ 49:
hey dude your burning up your alotted 15 minutes of fame.....like i said earlier with no disrespect......we've heard it before.. now what.....that's not all you got please tell me you have a solution....maybe a ron paul revolution?
Corsi isn't only a 9-11 truther and swift boat smear merchant, he is also the same idiot who coined the myth that the US, Mexico and Canada are going to form a North American Union and establish a currency called the Amero that has all kinds of people all worked up.
Karen @ 45:
lol:)
nick @ 49:
Actually, nick, there are plenty of people here who agree with you that the left/right paradigm is flawed. I'm not only one of them, I've written rather extensively about it.
But if you come here imploring us to quit "sucking the thumb of the left," and follow it up by asserting -- not arguing, but asserting -- that Corsi is a truth-teller, yes, you'll be mocked.
There's a lot of garbage on every blog. This one, though, has a lot of intelligent discourse throughout its comment sections, and many regular contributors who participate. You can have serious political discussions started with dissenting comments. If they're intelligently written and argued, they'll be most welcome.
Anton @ 48:
No, no, he's on a super-secret mission to glorify himself. That's it. It's as shallow as that.
Karen @ 36:
Yeah, sorry, nick. We lives in a "polarized" place these days so, speaking for myself, when someone comes in backing up the articles of a lying goof like Corsi, it tends to get my hackles up as the first thing I think is, "wingnut troll!! ALARM!".
But seriously, you will get no real love here when boosting fellers like Corsi on these boards. Just the way it is.
nick @ 49:
Oh, that's some wonderful passive-agressive bullshit there, nick. Let's take a look at the first line of your original comment:
CROOKSANDLIARS: Please stop sucking the thumb of the left.*
You're caomparing someone to a baby who needs to be soothed. Then, when we call you on your bullshit, YOU suddenly become the target of hate?
Not buying it, pal.
*Crooks and Liars is of and from the left, Sparky.
roooth @ 55:
he may appear to look less partisan by attacking both sides.....he wants to sell this book.......that has himself referenced...he's opportunistic......
watch for the asterisk next to the title of his book if it hits nyt bestseller
constituent @ 51:
constituent: I do have ideas ideas for solutions a plenty. Though, i am not about to perpetuate another diatribe of pointed anger against myself over ideas that wont fit into this board.
another time maybe.
roooth @ 55:
Right said, except you misspelled 'stupid' s-e-c-r-e-t. He'll write anything that he thinks he can get people to believe. He borrows on little pieces of truth and exaggerates them wildly while disregarding anything to the contrary to come up with the most outlandish conclusions that he knows there is an audience for.
Anton @ 48:
He wrote about McCain in 2006. He just forgot that he wrote about McCain. Actually he was paid to write about Obama. Swiftboaters.
Karen @ 54:
Duly noted. Yes, assertions are bad. Agreed, my point was "hack" at best. When i get more time i would love to contribute to the discussions in a meaningful way.
nick @ 59:
nick the victim:
All I did was tell them to stop their thumb-sucking, and then assert without any argument or facts to back it up that the author they criticize at length was really telling the truth about both sides, and they didn't respond kindly with intelligent debate. No, they made fun of me! I am the victim of a hate crime.
The KLA is a lot of things, but a muslim terrorist group is not one of them.
nick @ 59:
See what you did folks? Nick now refuses to share anymore of his "ideas". I'm going to cry.....when I finish laughing.
constituent @ 58:
He is on the bestseller list at NY Times. When most of the sales are in bulk the Times puts a dart by it. Right wingers are buying the book in bulk and distributing it amongst their sheep.
Karen @ 63:
Boo, Hoo!
nick @ 59:
we can leave it at that ........but i will say this in my opinion money/power is the problem we all know that. if you have time watch the last 3 episodes of bill moyer's journal.....it's not exactly on the same path as your thought but i feel it hits upon something we can possibly change. k-street has too much power in washington. so nothing gets done
except perpetual politicization......obama touched on this he is aware of this. i believe it is his INTENTION to change this at least reduce the influence of money in washington. to me obama isn't fully bought yet...this is why wall street,oil and ind. military complex don't want him why? they want to know he can be bought. there may be a need for a third party and that transition may be happening but it's not here yet.
Was Nick's one comment really worth this whole diatribe?
Well, neither is Corsi's book.
There's no sense in trying to figure out trolls like Corsi, and, apparently, Corsi is a very flexible troll.
nick @ 62:
Honestly Nick, this is a pretty good website. The articles are super-informative and they update multiple times a day. Stick to the site for the articles but avoid these message boards. They're full of intolerant hypocrite liberals that love to engage in cheerleading for Obama. The most they can do is call you a troll, which they often do here. Don't bother with fools. Stick to sites like Infowars, Information Clearing House, and Rawstory if you want intelligent discussions with people who don't buy into the left vs. right crap.
"al-Qaeda supports McCain"
I'm sure it's actually mutual support.
dennis @ 69:
Well, I'd say that since some real discussion actually arose after he was called on his initial snark, then my opinion is yes.
Nick said "Corsi is an example of someone who sheds the light of truth.." which is flame-bait. That's beyond a poor choice of wording.
Joe @ 71:
That's right, drag Obama into this. Nick made a silly baseless comment supporting career liar Corsi and was rightfully called out on it. Now here you come sharing a kleenex with Nick while putting Obama in the middle of this B.S. Any site you recommend as "super- informative" Joe, I'll stay away from.
Left&Left @ 75:
Good. Fools aren't wanted.
Joe @ 71:
Respectfully, the RawStory threads I have read are even nastier. They tend to be, left and right, a collection of drive-by ventings and snarkings. Rarely do I personally see any real discussion there. I couldn't speak to the others, though I do dig InformationCH for the information alone.
Btw, these boards are also loaded with intelligent, funny, thoughtful, concerned folks who also aren't above getting into a smack-off with posters who lead with insults.
Anyway!
But Corsi is right! the bush crime family and their Saudi friends support McKeating5.
nick @ 12:
TROLL ALERT!
Joe @ 76:
And they didn't ban you?
The psychotic mind knows no bounds in the Republican Party.
Now Cor$i can say he's fair and balanced, like Fox No-sense. Where is the finely researched book on the war hero? "Really Unfit to Command"
For anyone experiencing confusion over Corsi's stance, the answer is simple: you've not yet noticed that the entire system is falling apart.
While I'm skeptical regarding Corsi's ultimate motivations (given his prior republican shilling who can blame me) he is merely representative of a general collapse of confidence in the ability of the traditional Dem vs Repub system to do anything other than perpetuate the hideous mess America finds herself in. People would do well to recognize this.
In reality it's never been about left vs right. It's always been about patrician vs plebian - elite vs commoner - the powerful vs the powerless. Power is always maintained through division and the withholding of critical knowledge.
Go ahead - attack the 'republicans' while your masters snigger.
It's what you're supposed to do.
BaScOmBe hearts Lara Logan and Rachel Maddow @ 79:
I wonder, does branding someone a Troll have certain seeds of hypocrisy inbred into the statement?
It provokes an emotional response so by definition it is kinda Trollish.
kinda..
Corsi has said he supports the Constitution Party. The CP makes Republicans seem like flaming socialists. He's even nuttier than you think.
Jerome Corsi of Swiftboat fame: His over $150,000 in judgments, his corporations and more
webofdeception.com
nick @ 84:
I don't think you know from what the noun "troll" (and it should really be "troller") is derived. From Word of the Day:
troll 1 (trl)
v. trolled, troll·ing, trolls
v.tr.
1.
a. To fish for by trailing a baited line from behind a slowly moving boat.
b. To fish in by trailing a baited line: troll the lake for bass.
c. To trail (a baited line) in fishing.
You laid the bait. Unfortunately you thought you'd be able to reel in some bluegill, but you got sturgeon on the line. Your boat capsized. Swim, nick, swim!
frank verismo @ 83:
Will a fascist state follow? Sure seems that way. So choose your poison. Dems: Slow march to fascism, Repugs: Go directly to fascism, do not pass GO.
I'm sorry (not really) but if this were Obama we were talking about, no one here, including John Amato, would take Corsi's "report" seriously and would say that one organization's (AACL) support for Obama and a controversial group of "freedom fighters"/alleged terrorists (KLA) are one and the same. And you all know it. If you don't, then you're definitely biased. I mean, you won't believe a thing Corsi says in his new book about Obama, but you at C&L and Kos are eager to believe his report that insinuates McCain is getting support from terrorists?
chuck @ 89:
Who said I believe a word Corsi says?
After all the lies and innuendo he put out about Kerry. I certainly don't believe a word he says.
As for McCain, I've formed my own opinion of him. He capitulated with the his captors and signed anti American propoganda.
And being a Vet, thats enough for me.
Tell me, if Obama had done that, what would you be saying now? This very minute.
chuck @ 89:
Read below the headline, chuck:
Obama smear author and swiftboater Jerome Corsi is a very sick guy indeed. Not only has he been debunked by almost everybody, but now people are starting to look at his insane articles over at World Net Daily.
[emphasis added]
Tell me, have you ever seen a C&L post accusing McCain of being a
secret muslimManchurian candidate? Have you ever seen a C&L post that goes on and on about a "wet start" on the flight deck of the USS Forrestal?There's your difference, chuck, between the responsible left and the irresponsible right. This side of the spectrum doesn't try to propagate myths and smears.
Andy K Jong Il @ 91:
Well if that's the case, then get rid of irresponsible myths and smears like the one in comment #90, which says McCain signed "anti-American propaganda" while in Vietnam. That qualifies as a smear and myth doesn't it (even if it's a reader and not the author of the post)?
chuck @ 92:
I'm not talking about unregistered commenters, I'm talking about blog posts. And I'm not going to buy what anyone here tells me unless they've got a good reputation about backing up their claims with links to proof (I'm a yellow dog Democrat, chuck, and I fight those "wet start" comments whenever I run across them). Corsi doesn't have that reputation (quite the opposite, I'd say), while C&L does it the right way.
yakfitguy @ 88:
'Will a fascist state follow? Sure seems that way. So choose your poison. Dems: Slow march to fascism, Repugs: Go directly to fascism, do not pass GO.'
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Sorry to say - fascism is already here. At least according to the Mussolini definition of the term (and he should know).
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
Goosestepping and labor camps are not fascism. They are merely the symptoms of the German version.
According to the U.S. code (title 28, 3002)the 'United States' is a federal corporation (scroll to bottom of page):
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode28/usc_sec_28_00003002----0...
However, the system we are marching towards is in fact the Hegelian synthesis of Communism and Capitalism, albeit with an essentially fascist structure.
"Mr. Dodd, all of us who have a hand in the making of policies here, have had experience operating under directives, the substance of which is, that we use our grant-making power so as to alter life in the United States that it can be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union."
For more on this see:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/2624508/interview-norman-dodd-on-taxexempt-fou...
Andy K Jong Il @ 93:
Good, glad to hear it. I just hope C&L (one of my fav. sites) makes it more clear to readers that they don't buy into anything smearmerchants like Corsi says, even if he goes after a candidate we (all of us Obama supporters, anyway) will never vote for (McCain). I've had enough of smearing on both sides.
chuck @ 95:
Chuck, It's common knowledge that McCain signed anti American propaganda while he was a prisoner. It's not smear when it's historical fact.
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