Poland is just the latest fall guy for an American foreign policy dictated by military industrial lobbyists in Washington
It's a novel way to take your own life. Just as Russia demonstrates what happens to former minions that annoy it, Poland agrees to host a US missile defence base. The Russians, as Poland expected, respond to this proposal by offering to turn the country into a parking lot. This proves that the missile defence system is necessary after all: it will stop the missiles Russia will now aim at Poland, the Czech Republic and the UK in response to, er, their involvement in the missile defence system.
The American government insists that the interceptors, which will be stationed on the Baltic coast, have nothing to do with Russia: their purpose is to defend Europe and the US against the intercontinental ballistic missiles Iran and North Korea don't possess. This is why they are being placed in Poland, which, as every geography student in Texas knows, shares a border with both rogue states.
They permit us to look forward to a glowing future, in which missile defence, according to the Pentagon, will "protect our homeland ... and our friends and allies from ballistic missile attack"; as long as the Russians wait until it's working before they nuke us. The good news is that, at the present rate of progress, reliable missile defence is only 50 years away. The bad news is that it has been 50 years away for the past six decades.
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ALL RIGHT. LET'S TALK ABOUT EDUCATION. AMERICA RANKS 19TH IN HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATIONS, BUT WE'RE FIRST IN INCARCERATION. EVERYBODY SAYS THEY WANT MORE ACCOUNTABILITY IN SCHOOLS?
UH-HUH.
ABOUT 80 PERCENT OF AMERICA SAYS THEY SUPPORT MERIT PAY FOR THE BEST TEACHERS. NOW, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR YOUR STUMP SPEECH ON EDUCATION.
YES. YES. AND FIND BAD TEACHERS ANOTHER LINE OF WORK.
McCain was not asked about "bad" teachers but Obama was (youtube video link). Yet "somehow" McCain able to answer the "bad teachers" question. "Find them another line of work".
Liar and ninja loans are expected to give us more foreclosures. The Pentagon doesn't care
about a Paki civil war. College presidents want the minimum drinking age to be 18.
The descendants of the Knights Templar want reparations from the Catholic Church.
Poland is just the latest fall guy for an American foreign policy dictated by military industrial lobbyists in Washington
It's a novel way to take your own life. Just as Russia demonstrates what happens to former minions that annoy it, Poland agrees to host a US missile defence base. The Russians, as Poland expected, respond to this proposal by offering to turn the country into a parking lot. This proves that the missile defence system is necessary after all: it will stop the missiles Russia will now aim at Poland, the Czech Republic and the UK in response to, er, their involvement in the missile defence system.
The American government insists that the interceptors, which will be stationed on the Baltic coast, have nothing to do with Russia: their purpose is to defend Europe and the US against the intercontinental ballistic missiles Iran and North Korea don't possess. This is why they are being placed in Poland, which, as every geography student in Texas knows, shares a border with both rogue states.
They permit us to look forward to a glowing future, in which missile defence, according to the Pentagon, will "protect our homeland ... and our friends and allies from ballistic missile attack"; as long as the Russians wait until it's working before they nuke us. The good news is that, at the present rate of progress, reliable missile defence is only 50 years away. The bad news is that it has been 50 years away for the past six decades.
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Ummm, actually they are considered "first-strike" weapons. Because (now think about this...), if the United States had these "defensive" weapons in place, we could launch a "first-strike" against Russia then when Russia tried to retaliate our "defensive" weapons could kill theirs before they hit us. This is why Russia considers these "first-strike" weapons.
Imagine what the U.S. would be doing right now if Cuba, Mexico and Canada said they would accept Russia's "defensive" system?
Sun, 08/17/2008 - 23:19 — Jay Severin Has A Small Pen1s (not verified)
Unfortunately, from all I've read and seen the last seven years, I think we got the President we deserve. Maybe not ALL of us, but I'm certain it was an adequate representation for the majority of the folk in this country. Game shows, star-shows, rehab your house shows, NASCAR, religious zealotry, utter stupidity, short-term memory.
I wish we had a civil libertarian, socially progressive, fiscally responsible political party that supported comprehensive electoral reform, sticking to the text of the U.S. Constitution, and science.
When you say it this way, it sounds so long. Please for my health and sanity just say he has a few more months. Aww, even that sounds too long. let's just say he's on his way!
but don't forget he can still cause a lot more damage then he already has.
I hope this idiot leaving will make a difference, but I don't think so at this point. At least we can say "Let the door hit you on the ass as you leave you stupid piece of cockroach sh**".
Unless, of course, McSame is elected. Then it's just, "Here we go again."
'Here we go' is literal for me. I will not continue to live under fascist, republican rule. I retired in April, and my wife last June. Other than family, there is nothing compelling us to remain here. Over the past 3+ years, I have been researching living abroad. I looked at several options, especially Uruguay, Nicaragua and Costa Rica. We have settled on the latter, and I am not worried about ever running out of money. It is a near certainty we shall make the move.
That picture of 'W' ..... what is the guy, smashed, stoned, or did he just soil himself? He sure looks like he just hit his bong.
Is that sign and expression on his face meant to indicate he was pleased with the score, or that he was happy with the nice brown cloud he just let rip out of his ass? You never know with Jr.
ALL RIGHT. LET'S TALK ABOUT EDUCATION. AMERICA RANKS 19TH IN HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATIONS, BUT WE'RE FIRST IN INCARCERATION. EVERYBODY SAYS THEY WANT MORE ACCOUNTABILITY IN SCHOOLS?
UH-HUH.
ABOUT 80 PERCENT OF AMERICA SAYS THEY SUPPORT MERIT PAY FOR THE BEST TEACHERS. NOW, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR YOUR STUMP SPEECH ON EDUCATION.
YES. YES. AND FIND BAD TEACHERS ANOTHER LINE OF WORK.
McCain was not asked about "bad" teachers but Obama was (youtube video link). Yet "somehow" McCain able to answer the "bad teachers" question. "Find them another line of work".
This comment tells me that our politicians don't know a damned thing about education!
I know several teachers who started in poor, inner-city districts with little parental support. Their student's test scores were terrible, even though they were very good dedicated teachers!
Then, the got some experience and moved on to wealthy suburban districts where parents monitor their children very closely.
Now, their students test scores are among the best in the state! Did they go from being clueless and incompetent to great? NO!
Also, that 19th in the world bullshit you quote is meaningless. Most countries only test a very small percentage of their students, the ones who go on to a college prep high school curriculum. The U.S. tests ALL of their population. If I were to pick the top 15% of students in any country, the U.S. (or any country for that matter) would have a hard time outscoring them using a 100% sample group.
Educational failure is the biggest myth the republican's (who hate public education) have perpetrated on the American public since "tax cuts increase revenue" was spawned!
Also, some outstanding teachers I know, have stayed in the inner-city schools trying to help those kids. They could have left too, but they want to change those communities. God bless em.' They are the most dedicated educators I know, even though the test scores are bad. The worse thing they could do would be to replace these teachers because of test scores. Standardized tests scores are the least of their worries in those communities.
How about standardized tests for republican's? There wouldn't be a half dozen R's left wandering the corridor's of Washington. The politicians are a much bigger problem than our children have ever been!
Katie Couric made a human interest piece out of the administration's criminal (and probably lethal) exposure of Valerie Plame. During it, she condescended to Wilson, suggesting that Plame really should have seen it coming.
~~~ @ 7:07 of the clip~~~~~~~~
Couric: You never for a moment thought, 'This [Joe Wilson's article] could potentially jeopardize my career?"
Plame: It's called living your cover. This had nothing to do with what I was doing. He---
Couric: But---
Plame: He [Wilson] was part of the debate.
Couric: But admit it. It comes awfully close to what you were doing, even covertly. I mean, you were trying to ascertain if Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. He's writing an article saying it's really not valid. This one assertion. Can't---
Plame: Right.
Couric: ---you see how those two things might collide in a very dangerous way?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You know what, Katie? Fuck you. No, she should not have expected the administration of her own government to blow her cover because her husband contradicted what they were saying.
economics professor at NYU nouriel roubini says a crisis is brewing.i spoke to my tax accountant a few weeks ago she said she currently had several clients looking at foreclosure some were prime rate people
Katie Couric made a human interest piece out of the administration's criminal (and probably lethal) exposure of Valerie Plame. During it, she condescended to Wilson, suggesting that Plame really should have seen it coming.
~~~ @ 7:07 of the clip~~~~~~~~
Couric: You never for a moment thought, 'This [Joe Wilson's article] could potentially jeopardize my career?"
Plame: It's called living your cover. This had nothing to do with what I was doing. He---
Couric: But---
Plame: He [Wilson] was part of the debate.
Couric: But admit it. It comes awfully close to what you were doing, even covertly. I mean, you were trying to ascertain if Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. He's writing an article saying it's really not valid. This one assertion. Can't---
Plame: Right.
Couric: ---you see how those two things might collide in a very dangerous way?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You know what, Katie? Fuck you. No, she should not have expected the administration of her own government to blow her cover because her husband contradicted what they were saying.
i agree i saw/listened to that interview....i can't believe how the bush adminstration trying to blow this off. bush came to libby's rescue. they didn't show loyality to bush and cheney........it's treason.
I'm having trouble imagining these guys handing over power if Obama wins. They'll either have to destroy every document produced over the past eight years or declare martial law. The risk that they might miss a document is just too great, so suspension of the law will be necessary.
The example set by Pakistan has surely been studied closely. The example set by Putin of naming his successor and remaining in actual control must be much admired. I'm thinking a transitional government in which Bush leaves, another pawn is brought in as figurehead, with Cheney staying on in a consigliere role.
In order to maintain freedom in America, it will be necessary to suspend freedom in America, indefinitely, they will tell us. And the media will urge us to rally around our leaders and denounce those dirty revolutionaries who refuse to comply.
As someone already pointed out that's quite the collection of forehead furrows. Sure didn't come from thinking. I swear he looks like he's part Bajoran. In which case his sign would indicate that his cloaca is dilated for mating.
No W is just reminding people in sign language that he's an asshole.
I think he's trying to sign the number 9. Someone a couple rows down had asked him what he scored on an I.Q. test.
Don't be silly.
There's no way he scored that high.
As usual, he was lying.
He was trying to inflate his score to above average. He just didn't know what average was. Expect a media "debate" soon about whether 9 actually is an above average I.Q.
I wish we had a civil libertarian, socially progressive, fiscally responsible political party that supported comprehensive electoral reform, sticking to the text of the U.S. Constitution, and science.
god, wouldn't that be great? What shall we name it?
I'm having trouble imagining these guys handing over power if Obama wins. They'll either have to destroy every document produced over the past eight years or declare martial law. The risk that they might miss a document is just too great, so suspension of the law will be necessary.
The example set by Pakistan has surely been studied closely.
The fact that a third Republican administration would take advantage of at least four more years to hide the skeletons and destroy the evidence is a given. It's a Republican tradition. Ford cleaned up after Nixon's Watergate mess and the secret war in Cambodia, and pardoned Nixon and the other criminals. Bush Sr. cleaned up after Reagan's Iran/Contra scandal, and pardoned the criminals. McCain's first priority in getting into the White House will be to pardon everybody that had anything up to the falsifaication of evidence to send the country to war, outting a CIA agent (Plame), putting a political prisoner (Seigelman) in jail to subvert the democratic process, firing U.S. Attourneys for not prosecuting enough Democrats, illegal wiretapping by telecoms that started BEFORE the Patriot Act was made law etc. And, like Ford, he'll say he did it for the 'good of the country.' You know, that famous "our long national nightmare is finally over" line after Ford pardoned Nixon. (And it was worse than a pardon for a crime he was convicted of. It was a blanket retroactive pardon for anything and everything he MIGHT have done, thus making it pointless to even INVESTIGATE all the things that went on. I'm sure the Republicans could pull a few more of those types of pardons out of their ass.)
As for Bush following the Pakistani example, it's actually the other way around. People in Pakistan, having just forced a dictator out of office, are now watching the U.S. on their T.V. sets, shaking their heads, and saying "boy, I'm sure glad we don't live in a backwards country like that." Meanwhile, Musharraf is watching the U.S. on TV, shaking his head, and saying "boy, I sure wish I'd had Nancy Pelosi and Anonin Scalia watching MY back." Talk about an embarrassing moment in U.S. history.
I wish we had a civil libertarian, socially progressive, fiscally responsible political party that supported comprehensive electoral reform, sticking to the text of the U.S. Constitution, and science.
god, wouldn't that be great? What shall we name it?
Oh, I have a name for it. Wanna join me?
The name is the Libeqrats' Party.
Libeqrat is a hybrid of LIBerty, EQuality and RATionality.
Katie Couric made a human interest piece out of the administration's criminal (and probably lethal) exposure of Valerie Plame. During it, she condescended to Wilson, suggesting that Plame really should have seen it coming.
~~~ @ 7:07 of the clip~~~~~~~~
Couric: You never for a moment thought, 'This [Joe Wilson's article] could potentially jeopardize my career?"
Plame: It's called living your cover. This had nothing to do with what I was doing. He---
Couric: But---
Plame: He [Wilson] was part of the debate.
Couric: But admit it. It comes awfully close to what you were doing, even covertly. I mean, you were trying to ascertain if Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. He's writing an article saying it's really not valid. This one assertion. Can't---
Plame: Right.
Couric: ---you see how those two things might collide in a very dangerous way?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You know what, Katie? Fuck you. No, she should not have expected the administration of her own government to blow her cover because her husband contradicted what they were saying.
My wife and I thought exactly the same thing when Katie CutiePie said, "Admit it." As though Plame should somehow atone for the error of her ways. She did the same thing to Joseph Wilson when he wouldn't give her the answer she was looking for by saying to him, "You're still seething, aren't you?"
The beauty of the whole thing, though, was that these aren't typical ignorant Americans, cowed and star-struck by a famous person telling them they've been "bad." They both had ready comebacks for Couric. We felt their responses made Couric look small and partial.
I wish we had a civil libertarian, socially progressive, fiscally responsible political party that supported comprehensive electoral reform, sticking to the text of the U.S. Constitution, and science.
god, wouldn't that be great? What shall we name it?
Oh, I have a name for it. Wanna join me?
The name is the Libeqrats' Party.
Libeqrat is a hybrid of LIBerty, EQuality and RATionality.
I wish we had a civil libertarian, socially progressive, fiscally responsible political party that supported comprehensive electoral reform, sticking to the text of the U.S. Constitution, and science.
god, wouldn't that be great? What shall we name it?
The problem with civil libertarians is that they have no use for social programs. Universal heath care is anathema and I can't imagine civil libertarians doing anything at all about a situation like hurricane Katrina. I admire Karen's posts a great deal but this philosophy has as many adherents on the right as the left and the right wing perspective makes having progressive policies pointless since government is to be limited to the point where it can do nothing but the most basic of functions With regard to the rest of her comment, I am in complete agreement.
I think he's trying to sign the number 9. Someone a couple rows down had asked him what he scored on an I.Q. test.
Don't be silly.
There's no way he scored that high.
As usual, he was lying.
He was trying to inflate his score to above average. He just didn't know what average was. Expect a media "debate" soon about whether 9 actually is an above average I.Q.
;)
For those to whom 9 is above average there's foxnews where one can learn Obama is both a Muslim and has a crazy minister.
I wish we had a civil libertarian, socially progressive, fiscally responsible political party that supported comprehensive electoral reform, sticking to the text of the U.S. Constitution, and science.
god, wouldn't that be great? What shall we name it?
The problem with civil libertarians is that they have no use for social programs. Universal heath care is anathema and I can't imagine civil libertarians doing anything at all about a situation like hurricane Katrina. I admire Karen's posts a great deal but this philosophy has as many adherents on the right as the left and the right wing perspective makes having progressive policies pointless since government is to be limited to the point where it can do nothing but the most basic of functions With regard to the rest of her comment, I am in complete agreement.
Actually, PeterG, you're referring to Libertarians -- capital L, either members of the Libertarian Party or people who espouse right-wing Libertarian positions.
Civil libertarians are not the same. The ACLU, for instance, is a largely civil libertarian organization. Civil libertarians simply oppose government interference with (ahem) civil liberties -- the basic right to pursue happiness in one's private life to the extent that one does not infringe on the rights of others.
The Libeqrats' Party (should it ever actually come to be) would not oppose social programs. That's why I put "socially progressive" after "civil libertarian" in the description.
I wish we had a civil libertarian, socially progressive, fiscally responsible political party that supported comprehensive electoral reform, sticking to the text of the U.S. Constitution, and science.
god, wouldn't that be great? What shall we name it?
The problem with civil libertarians is that they have no use for social programs. Universal heath care is anathema and I can't imagine civil libertarians doing anything at all about a situation like hurricane Katrina. I admire Karen's posts a great deal but this philosophy has as many adherents on the right as the left and the right wing perspective makes having progressive policies pointless since government is to be limited to the point where it can do nothing but the most basic of functions With regard to the rest of her comment, I am in complete agreement.
I think you're thinking of Libertarians, not "civil libertarians." Two different things.
See. If you are rich and unscrupulous you can pick your nose AND your family.
How do the McCains get away with all the crap they have pulled in their lives and still have the audacity to run a campaign on family values ?
Cindy McCain is more worthless than he is if that is possible. She claims to be an only child, yet she has two half sisters. One by her father by a previous marriage and one by her mother and a previous marriage, yet she denies both. Democrats don't deny half siblings. Barack doesn't and Bill Clinton didn't either. These people are real lowlife's.
god, wouldn't that be great? What shall we name it?
The problem with civil libertarians is that they have no use for social programs. Universal heath care is anathema and I can't imagine civil libertarians doing anything at all about a situation like hurricane Katrina. I admire Karen's posts a great deal but this philosophy has as many adherents on the right as the left and the right wing perspective makes having progressive policies pointless since government is to be limited to the point where it can do nothing but the most basic of functions With regard to the rest of her comment, I am in complete agreement.
Actually, PeterG, you're referring to Libertarians -- capital L, either members of the Libertarian Party or people who espouse right-wing Libertarian positions.
Civil libertarians are not the same. The ACLU, for instance, is a largely civil libertarian organization. Civil libertarians simply oppose government interference with (ahem) civil liberties -- the basic right to pursue happiness in one's private life to the extent that one does not infringe on the rights of others.
The Libeqrats' Party (should it ever actually come to be) would not oppose social programs. That's why I put "socially progressive" after "civil libertarian" in the description.
god, wouldn't that be great? What shall we name it?
Oh, I have a name for it. Wanna join me?
The name is the Libeqrats' Party.
Libeqrat is a hybrid of LIBerty, EQuality and RATionality.
Damn straight.
:) Glad you like it. I was trying to start a blog with the Libeqrats' perspective on issues in June. (Click my name if you're so inclined.) Then I got so busy with work, I couldn't add to it. Interested in helping me get it going again, RobertD?
I am disturbed that I have heard nothing but attacks by McCain and nothing about what he will do if elected, only what he won't do. So much so that think I have found the perfect slogan for his campaign.
See. If you are rich and unscrupulous you can pick your nose AND your family.
How do the McCains get away with all the crap they have pulled in their lives and still have the audacity to run a campaign on family values ?
Cindy McCain is more worthless than he is if that is possible. She claims to be an only child, yet she has two half sisters. One by her father by a previous marriage and one by her mother and a previous marriage, yet she denies both. Democrats don't deny half siblings. Barack doesn't and Bill Clinton didn't either. These people are real lowlife's.
i'd like to see it get some coverage why not.......they're constantly attacking obama's character......mccain can't talk about an issue/topic without knocking i'm sick of it.
Libeqrat is a hybrid of LIBerty, EQuality and RATionality.
Damn straight.
:) Glad you like it. I was trying to start a blog with the Libeqrats' perspective on issues in June. (Click my name if you're so inclined.) Then I got so busy with work, I couldn't add to it. Interested in helping me get it going again, RobertD?
That sounds really cool. I'm probably the only person left on C & L with dial-up (techies reading this, please stop throwing things at me). Will that complicate things terribly? For example, downloading clips from The Daily Show might take me a week. Thoughts?
OMFG!!!
So, the FBI tossed the ONLY KNOWN SAMPLE from Ivins, yet relied on a secondary source to prove that the "UNIQUE" sample originally tossed came from Ivins?
I smell a contrived set-up and pin the blame on the fall guy while the real terrorist walks.
:) Glad you like it. I was trying to start a blog with the Libeqrats' perspective on issues in June. (Click my name if you're so inclined.) Then I got so busy with work, I couldn't add to it. Interested in helping me get it going again, RobertD?
That sounds really cool. I'm probably the only person left on C & L with dial-up (techies reading this, please stop throwing things at me). Will that complicate things terribly? For example, downloading clips from The Daily Show might take me a week. Thoughts?
Well, simply writing about things and linking to them doesn't require anything more than dial up. You're doing it here, after all. :)
The idea would just be to find news stories and put the Libeqrat's perspective out there. Perhaps we should e-mail to make sure we're on the same page. :)
Did anyone see the one hour biography that Bill Hemmer( or whatever his name is, the Fox guy) did on Obama tonight ? I can't stomach FOX so I can't watch. My guess is, it had to be a hit job. This Bill guy is the one that used to be on CNN in the mornings with Jack and Solidad. Him and Jack got along like cats and dogs. He finally went to FOX where he belongs and Jack went to the afternoons with Wolf.
Russia claims to be retreating when really it's advancing.
Rove landed the Putin account!
REMEMBER:
The same sources that spread the un-"truth" about Iraq's WMD,s, ties to al-CIA-duh, imminent threat, Pakistani stability, and Iranian enrichment is also the same un-"trusted" sources informing us about who's doing what in and to Georgia. Yet, these same sources report about Georgian towns burned down with out ever seeing the towns... And no one is calling B.S. on this propaganda...?
Humm... who attacked whom first?
Humm... who attacked what first?
Humm... who asked for military protection and from whom?
Humm... under U.N. charters of war, who's allowed to retaliate?
When we become familiar with the FACTS, then the propaganda pictures become that much more clear.
Q U E S T I O N:
If Baja Mexico sought to separate from Mexico proper and asked the U.S. for military cover should it become necessary and then the US proceeded to set up a military base in Baja Mexico to protect American tourists visiting there and Mexico proper attacked our military outpost and the surrounding civilian populations, would it be proper for the US to not retaliate? What would it be called if Venezuela propagated the image that the USA was the aggressor? Now, how is this any different?
George Bush representing America, joyful. I've been thinking and I decided that it is unfair to constantly point out all the ways George Bush has failed as a president (or at life, or as a human), so I compiled a list of all his successes to date, and it is a surprisingly long list check it out;
The Successes of George W. Bush
• He successfully impregnated Laura….twice
• He has succeeded in turning America into a rogue nation; he also succeeded in making us the laughing stock of the world.
• He has successfully enriched the lives of many, many really rich people
• He has successfully disenfranchised even more people.
• He has successfully polarized an entire nation if not the world.
• He has lied most successfully if not effectively.
• He has succeeded in causing the deaths of more Iraqis’ in five years than Saddam Hussein was able to pull off in a couple of decades.
• He has successfully worn out his welcome.
• He has successfully proven that government is best left in the hands of competent individuals.
• He has successfully earned the hatred of not just elements of the military, but the entire world.
• He has successfully declared a war on a verb.
• He has consistently succeeded at being a failure at all he does.
• He has successfully become a more successful criminal than Al Capone.
• Where many others have failed, he has succeeded in breaking the entire U.S Military.
• He succeeded in taking a budget surplus, and turning it into one of the biggest deficits in history all within his first term.
• He has succeeded in making cronyism and corruption into desirable traits in government officials.
• Although not smart enough to have thought it up himself, he has succeeded in making election theft look easy.
• He has successfully fooled some of the people some of the time.
• To paraphrase Rep. Rangel; he successfully shatters the myth of white supremacy once and for all.
• He has successfully embarrassed not only himself, but the entire United States of America in every country he’s set foot in.
• He has succeeded in becoming the worst president of all time.
• He has successfully destroyed not only his own credibility, but also that of the Republican Party and of America in general.
• He has succeeded in spreading more fear and terror than Freddy Krueger in his prime.
• As Governor of Texas, he succeeded in executing more people than any other U.S Governor in any other state in the entire history of the United States.
• He has successfully proven that government is best left in the hands of competent individuals.
Mission Accomplished
Actually, I thought the goal was to prove that government really is EVIL (if it's possible for a guy like him to usurp control of it, and STAY in control of it), and should be eliminated, which has been the conservative/libertarian goal all along. Now even liberals believe this.
So, ironically, if you're a conservative/libertarian who gets elected to office, there is no way you can lose! If you govern well, you prove that conservatives are inherently good. If you govern poorly, you prove that government is inherently bad.
The think that scares me most about Bush/Cheney is that they've almost come to the point of proving that democracy does NOT WORK. The trash can of history is full of failed nations that had wonderfully democratic sounding constitutions, but they were failed by the human element. It would be a real tragedy if the U.S. were added to that list because of THESE GUYS, and (more importantly) because of US.
• He has successfully proven that government is best left in the hands of competent individuals.
Mission Accomplished
Actually, I thought the goal was to prove that government really is EVIL (if it's possible for a guy like him to usurp control of it, and STAY in control of it), and should be eliminated, which has been the conservative/libertarian goal all along. Now even liberals believe this.
So, ironically, if you're a conservative/libertarian who gets elected to office, there is no way you can lose! If you govern well, you prove that conservatives are inherently good. If you govern poorly, you prove that government is inherently bad.
The think that scares me most about Bush/Cheney is that they've almost come to the point of proving that democracy does NOT WORK. The trash can of history is full of failed nations that had wonderfully democratic sounding constitutions, but they were failed by the human element. It would be a real tragedy if the U.S. were added to that list because of THESE GUYS, and (more importantly) because of US.
Democracy works fine, the problem is in getting a congress that is willing to uphold the law and not worry about how popular they will be if they do.
Another opinion...when John McCain is President, John Bolton is Secretary of State, Paul Wolfowitz is Secretary of Defense, Karl Rove is Attorney General, Grover Norquist is Secretary the Treasury, John Hagee is Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, and the bombs are falling on Iran, Syria, Pakistan and Russia, remind me to send a thank you letter to a little pollyanna with a flower in her hair who went around telling everybody to vote for Ralph Nader.
"The only justifiable purpose for political institutions is to assure the unhindered development of the individual"
attributed to Albert Einstein
The founding document of the United States of America explains the purpose for political institutions as well: Governments are created to make the individual's equal rights secure.
[A]ll men are created equal, [and] endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights . . . . to secure these rights, Governments are instituted[.]
---Declaration of Independence
Another opinion...when John McCain is President, John Bolton is Secretary of State, Paul Wolfowitz is Secretary of Defense, Karl Rove is Attorney General, Grover Norquist is Secretary the Treasury, John Hagee is Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, and the bombs are falling on Iran, Syria, Pakistan and Russia, remind me to send a thank you letter to a little pollyanna with a flower in her hair who went around telling everybody to vote for Ralph Nader.
Just remember this in... oh, say four more years... if we make it there... K?
Another opinion...when John McCain is President, John Bolton is Secretary of State, Paul Wolfowitz is Secretary of Defense, Karl Rove is Attorney General, Grover Norquist is Secretary the Treasury, John Hagee is Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, and the bombs are falling on Iran, Syria, Pakistan and Russia, remind me to send a thank you letter to a little pollyanna with a flower in her hair who went around telling everybody to vote for Ralph Nader.
"The only justifiable purpose for political institutions is to assure the unhindered development of the individual"
attributed to Albert Einstein
The founding document of the United States of America explains the purpose for political institutions as well: Governments are created to make the individual's equal rights secure.
[A]ll men are created equal, [and] endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights . . . . to secure these rights, Governments are instituted[.]
---Declaration of Independence
By identifying the highest value as being the individual, I can perceive the created equal part. Otherwise, on the face of it, individuals are of different value.
"The only justifiable purpose for political institutions is to assure the unhindered development of the individual"
attributed to Albert Einstein
The founding document of the United States of America explains the purpose for political institutions as well: Governments are created to make the individual's equal rights secure.
[A]ll men are created equal, [and] endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights . . . . to secure these rights, Governments are instituted[.]
---Declaration of Independence
By identifying the highest value as being the individual, I can perceive the created equal part. Otherwise, on the face of it, individuals are of different value.
Yes, 'tis quite a conundrum, this "equality," no?
In my political philosophy, equality is a function of liberty. That is, each individual should be equally free to pursue happiness. Equality does not mean that each individual is to be the same as every other. It means that each is equally endowed with the right to pursue her own happiness. The individual gets the choice of means in that pursuit, and is limited in that pursuit only by the other's equal rights.
The proper function of government is to secure these equal rights. May the government proscribe the use of marijuana? Under what justification could people delegate that power to their government? How does it secure the equal rights of all? It doesn't. May the government proscribe murder. Of course. If each person has the equal right to life, then it logically follows that no individual may take the life of another. That power is rightfully delegated to government, in order to make our equal rights secure.
The founding document of the United States of America explains the purpose for political institutions as well: Governments are created to make the individual's equal rights secure.
[A]ll men are created equal, [and] endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights . . . . to secure these rights, Governments are instituted[.]
---Declaration of Independence
By identifying the highest value as being the individual, I can perceive the created equal part. Otherwise, on the face of it, individuals are of different value.
Yes, 'tis quite a conundrum, this "equality," no?
In my political philosophy, equality is a function of liberty. That is, each individual should be equally free to pursue happiness. Equality does not mean that each individual is to be the same as every other. It means that each is equally endowed with the right to pursue her own happiness. The individual gets the choice of means in that pursuit, and is limited in that pursuit only by the other's equal rights.
The proper function of government is to secure these equal rights. May the government proscribe the use of marijuana? Under what justification could people delegate that power to their government? How does it secure the equal rights of all? It doesn't. May the government proscribe murder. Of course. If each person has the equal right to life, then it logically follows that no individual may take the life of another. That power is rightfully delegated to government, in order to make our equal rights secure.
Freedom to pursue happiness implies Freedom from encumbrances on that pursuit-movement. Freedom from burdens, drains. Feedom from having ones time sacrificed to other imagined higher goods through excess taxes.
As U.S. and Pakistani officials sort through the confusion following Aafia Siddiqui's transfer to New York after being charged with trying to kill U.S. soldiers and FBI agents in Afghanistan last month, a key question remains: Where has Siddiqui been for the past five years?
Georgia wouldn't have attacked South Ossetia without the green light from the U.S,
believes Paul Craig Roberts, a former assistant secretary to the treasury in Ronald Reagan's administration. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOJiVqg9_20
Georgia wouldn't have attacked South Ossetia without the green light from the U.S,
believes Paul Craig Roberts, a former assistant secretary to the treasury in Ronald Reagan's administration.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOJiVqg9_20
Another opinion...when John McCain is President, John Bolton is Secretary of State, Paul Wolfowitz is Secretary of Defense, Karl Rove is Attorney General, Grover Norquist is Secretary the Treasury, John Hagee is Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, and the bombs are falling on Iran, Syria, Pakistan and Russia, remind me to send a thank you letter to a little pollyanna with a flower in her hair who went around telling everybody to vote for Ralph Nader.
Just remember this in... say four years... K?
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Deal! 3.5 years from now, if I get the chance to hold President Obama's feet to the fire, by threatening to vote for Nader, because Obama didn't follow through with his promise of 'change,' I'll be a very happy man. But I'd rather be doing that than whining about how bad President McCain and his cronies are, and lamenting the vote I threw away because I was too snooty to bring myself to support the Democrats. :)
Why don't you guys think missile defenses are necessary in Poland and the Czech Republic to defend against missiles from Iran? Don't you guys know that those missiles make refueling stops at the Russian border with Belarus and the Ukraine?
I can't wait for the day this bastard will leave the white house for the last time. It will be like the heavens are opening up for the American people.
Why don't you guys think missile defenses are necessary in Poland and the Czech Republic to defend against missiles from Iran? Don't you guys know that those missiles make refueling stops at the Russian border with Belarus and the Ukraine?
If Poland and the Czech Republic need an anti-missile system to defend against Iranian missiles, I can send them the 'magic eraser' tool from my Adobe Photoshop upgrade.
Hitler Endorsed by 9 to 1 in Poll on his Dictatorship, but Opposition Is Doubled
Absolute Power Is Won
38,279,514 Vote Yes, 4,287,808 No on Uniting Offices
871,056 Ballots Spoiled
Negative Count Is Larger in Districts of Business Men and Intellectuals
Hamburg Has 20% Noes
Reich Bishop at Victory Fete Says Hitler's Anti-Semitism Is Fight for Christianity
By FREDERICK T. BIRCHALL
Special Cable to THE NEW YORK TIMES
Berlin, Monday, Aug. 20 -- Eighty-nine and nine-tenths per cent of the German voters endorsed in yesterday's plebiscite Chancellor Hitler's assumption of greater power than has ever been possessed by any other ruler in modern times. Nearly 10 per cent indicated their disapproval. The result was expected.
The German people were asked to vote whether they approved the consolidation of the offices of President and Chancellor in a single Leader-Chancellor personified by Adolf Hitler. By every appeal known to skillful politicians and with every argument to the contrary suppressed, they were asked to make their approval unanimous.
Nevertheless 10 per cent of the voters have admittedly braved possible consequences by answering "No" and nearly [text unreadable] made their answers, ineffective by spoiling the simplest of ballots. There was a plain short question and two circles, one labeled "Yes" and the other "No," in one of which the voter had to make a cross. Yet there were nearly 1,000,000 spoiled ballots.
we dont need no stinkin' single payer modern scientific health care in the USA, when we have faith based health care, praise the lord.
When it comes to saving lives, God trumps doctors for many Americans.
An eye-opening survey reveals widespread belief that divine intervention can revive dying patients.
20 percent of docs also say God can reverse terminal prognosis, study finds
hmmm, I bet the insurance companies who take our premiums every week/month are happy about this.
(and deny treatment, claims and refunds based on statistics and likely outcome)
economics professor at NYU nouriel roubini says a crisis is brewing.i spoke to my tax accountant a few weeks ago she said she currently had several clients looking at foreclosure some were prime rate people
the current situation foreclosures, liens and similar foreclosure dot com 2,049,413 as of 18/8/2008
this website has a US map and goes down to street level, city town zip code searches etc.
Hate to spoil the party..Bush and Chaney are not leaving...get ready for the takeover...
Well; Chimpy is off the wagon big time now and as seen in the Chinese Olympic photos, unfit for office and very impeachable,
Cheney is missing (in a PR sense) presumed hiding for the last couple of years...
Chimpy has addiction and psychological problems, Cheney's heart condition (and guilt due to bad PR) is keeping him out of the public view.
McDumb is their great white Republican hope and their legacy for the next four eight years...
Katie Couric made a human interest piece out of the administration's criminal (and probably lethal) exposure of Valerie Plame. During it, she condescended to Wilson, suggesting that Plame really should have seen it coming.
~~~ @ 7:07 of the clip~~~~~~~~
Couric: You never for a moment thought, 'This [Joe Wilson's article] could potentially jeopardize my career?"
Plame: It's called living your cover. This had nothing to do with what I was doing. He---
Couric: But---
Plame: He [Wilson] was part of the debate.
Couric: But admit it. It comes awfully close to what you were doing, even covertly. I mean, you were trying to ascertain if Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. He's writing an article saying it's really not valid. This one assertion. Can't---
Plame: Right.
Couric: ---you see how those two things might collide in a very dangerous way?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You know what, Katie? Fuck you. No, she should not have expected the administration of her own government to blow her cover because her husband contradicted what they were saying.
When did this run on the TV?
Yeah, fuck you too Katie. Go back to blowing your corporate bosses under their desks.
If only they had focused on this war instead of war profiteering in Iraq these 43 souls may be with us today. Just more death brought you by the "pro-life" administration.
AFGHANISTAN
Coalition Military Fatalities By Year
Year US Other Total
2008 99 74 173
2007 117 115 232
2006 98 93 191
2005 99 31 130
2004 52 6 58
2003 48 9 57
2002 49 20 69
2001 12 0 12
Total 574 348 922 *Fatalities By Country
In an interview with USA Today, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said he had no problem with his senior adviser Randy Scheunemann’s close lobbying ties to the Republic of Georgia:
“I’m proud to have supported them,” McCain said of Georgia in an interview on the campaign plane. “And I’m so proud that so many of my friends have done so, who also believe in freedom and democracy.”
Scheunemann had been employed as a lobbyist for Georgia at the same time he was providing foreign policy advice to McCain, lobbying McCain himself nearly 50 times between 2004 and 2007.
In an interview with USA Today, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said he had no problem with his senior adviser Randy Scheunemann’s close lobbying ties to the Republic of Georgia:
“I’m proud to have supported them,” McCain said of Georgia in an interview on the campaign plane. “And I’m so proud that so many of my friends have done so, who also believe in freedom and democracy.”
Scheunemann had been employed as a lobbyist for Georgia at the same time he was providing foreign policy advice to McCain, lobbying McCain himself nearly 50 times between 2004 and 2007.
McCain thinks like cheney and bush, "you'll take this freedom if I have to shove it down your damn throat, not shut up and be free and don't make me come over there."
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wow.....an ad for the "pineapple express" in china
McCain Explains to Rick Warren HIS ‘Purpose-Driven Life’
woohoo!
punditkitchen.com has been having fun with these pictures for two weeks!
That picture is worth 1,000,000 words! Nothing more needs to be said about the chimp.
155 more days? They can't go by quickly enough.
Unless, of course, McSame is elected. Then it's just, "Here we go again."
A bit of perspective on the Current International Kerfuffle:
George Monbiot: The US missile defence system is the magic pudding that will never run out
McCain the Mindreader
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n83M-jgOaJQ
ALL RIGHT. LET'S TALK ABOUT EDUCATION. AMERICA RANKS 19TH IN HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATIONS, BUT WE'RE FIRST IN INCARCERATION. EVERYBODY SAYS THEY WANT MORE ACCOUNTABILITY IN SCHOOLS?
UH-HUH.
ABOUT 80 PERCENT OF AMERICA SAYS THEY SUPPORT MERIT PAY FOR THE BEST TEACHERS. NOW, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR YOUR STUMP SPEECH ON EDUCATION.
YES. YES. AND FIND BAD TEACHERS ANOTHER LINE OF WORK.
http://www.rickwarrennews.com/transcript/civil_forum_transcript-05.txt
McCain was not asked about "bad" teachers but Obama was (youtube video link). Yet "somehow" McCain able to answer the "bad teachers" question. "Find them another line of work".
He should have been a comedian.
Bush is the consummate jerk.
McCain cheated. Diebold cheats. The Media let's them get away with it.
motorfingaz @ 10:
I'm all for abortions if it will prevent Sean Hannitys, Ann Coulters, Limbaughs and the present administration from invading our earth again.
mccain is going to consult rep.john lewis(d) i don't think so.
http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2008/08/9293_john_mccain_jo...
What's the deal with Laura? Look at the full-sized pic.
She's wearing more makeup than Health Ledger in The Dark Knight.
77 days to the election = 11 weeks. they are dragging on.
If this picture was taken at the Olympics, Dubya is giving the Brazilian equivalent of the finger to the whole word. How appropriate.
Liar and ninja loans are expected to give us more foreclosures. The Pentagon doesn't care
about a Paki civil war. College presidents want the minimum drinking age to be 18.
The descendants of the Knights Templar want reparations from the Catholic Church.
cindy mccain's half sister who has been 'hidden' they both have the same biological father....
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=93708729
Flush three times. It's a long way to the GW Bush Sewage Treatment Plant in California, and the low-flow toilets sometimes clog with turds this big.
Look at those big, fat lines on Chimpy's forehead!! And here I thought the only lines in/on his head had already gone up his nose...
MountainMan23 @ 7:
Ummm, actually they are considered "first-strike" weapons. Because (now think about this...), if the United States had these "defensive" weapons in place, we could launch a "first-strike" against Russia then when Russia tried to retaliate our "defensive" weapons could kill theirs before they hit us. This is why Russia considers these "first-strike" weapons.
Imagine what the U.S. would be doing right now if Cuba, Mexico and Canada said they would accept Russia's "defensive" system?
Right-e-oh-then....
constituent @ 18:
More of the family values of the uber rich and elite.
One hundred and fifty five more days.
Man alive! Is it really going to take that long?
Unfortunately, from all I've read and seen the last seven years, I think we got the President we deserve. Maybe not ALL of us, but I'm certain it was an adequate representation for the majority of the folk in this country. Game shows, star-shows, rehab your house shows, NASCAR, religious zealotry, utter stupidity, short-term memory.
I'm ready for the spacepod for my family.
Bushbaby is lucky that he's not President of Pakistan, since they're not afraid to impeach.
Dreaming Big:
I wish we had a civil libertarian, socially progressive, fiscally responsible political party that supported comprehensive electoral reform, sticking to the text of the U.S. Constitution, and science.
equilibrio @ 25:
in pakistan, impeachment is getting off easy.
One hundred and fifty five more days.
When you say it this way, it sounds so long. Please for my health and sanity just say he has a few more months. Aww, even that sounds too long. let's just say he's on his way!
but don't forget he can still cause a lot more damage then he already has.
Are they flashing gang signs? I knew bush was a criminal but---
lafin gas @ 29:
Only if the Monkey's is a gang
I don't know who that guy is, but he is drunk on his ass.
He is completely soused!
Dahgrostab'ph-r-i @ 30:
D.C.Apes sounds like a gang to me!
I hope this idiot leaving will make a difference, but I don't think so at this point. At least we can say "Let the door hit you on the ass as you leave you stupid piece of cockroach sh**".
Buffoon.
lafin gas @ 29:
Yes those are secret terror signs to Bush's hickslim brothers saying "I'll take another beer and then I got to pee"
All bets are off is McCain gets elected.
Better do everything you can between now and then to see that doesn't happen.
smk101 @ 6:
'Here we go' is literal for me. I will not continue to live under fascist, republican rule. I retired in April, and my wife last June. Other than family, there is nothing compelling us to remain here. Over the past 3+ years, I have been researching living abroad. I looked at several options, especially Uruguay, Nicaragua and Costa Rica. We have settled on the latter, and I am not worried about ever running out of money. It is a near certainty we shall make the move.
That picture of 'W' ..... what is the guy, smashed, stoned, or did he just soil himself? He sure looks like he just hit his bong.
Is that sign and expression on his face meant to indicate he was pleased with the score, or that he was happy with the nice brown cloud he just let rip out of his ass? You never know with Jr.
harley @ 8:
This comment tells me that our politicians don't know a damned thing about education!
I know several teachers who started in poor, inner-city districts with little parental support. Their student's test scores were terrible, even though they were very good dedicated teachers!
Then, the got some experience and moved on to wealthy suburban districts where parents monitor their children very closely.
Now, their students test scores are among the best in the state! Did they go from being clueless and incompetent to great? NO!
Also, that 19th in the world bullshit you quote is meaningless. Most countries only test a very small percentage of their students, the ones who go on to a college prep high school curriculum. The U.S. tests ALL of their population. If I were to pick the top 15% of students in any country, the U.S. (or any country for that matter) would have a hard time outscoring them using a 100% sample group.
Educational failure is the biggest myth the republican's (who hate public education) have perpetrated on the American public since "tax cuts increase revenue" was spawned!
Also, some outstanding teachers I know, have stayed in the inner-city schools trying to help those kids. They could have left too, but they want to change those communities. God bless em.' They are the most dedicated educators I know, even though the test scores are bad. The worse thing they could do would be to replace these teachers because of test scores. Standardized tests scores are the least of their worries in those communities.
How about standardized tests for republican's? There wouldn't be a half dozen R's left wandering the corridor's of Washington. The politicians are a much bigger problem than our children have ever been!
Katie Couric made a human interest piece out of the administration's criminal (and probably lethal) exposure of Valerie Plame. During it, she condescended to Wilson, suggesting that Plame really should have seen it coming.
~~~ @ 7:07 of the clip~~~~~~~~
Couric: You never for a moment thought, 'This [Joe Wilson's article] could potentially jeopardize my career?"
Plame: It's called living your cover. This had nothing to do with what I was doing. He---
Couric: But---
Plame: He [Wilson] was part of the debate.
Couric: But admit it. It comes awfully close to what you were doing, even covertly. I mean, you were trying to ascertain if Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. He's writing an article saying it's really not valid. This one assertion. Can't---
Plame: Right.
Couric: ---you see how those two things might collide in a very dangerous way?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You know what, Katie? Fuck you. No, she should not have expected the administration of her own government to blow her cover because her husband contradicted what they were saying.
Is that one of the twins sitting next to him, doing humanitarian work ?
economics professor at NYU nouriel roubini says a crisis is brewing.i spoke to my tax accountant a few weeks ago she said she currently had several clients looking at foreclosure some were prime rate people
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/17/magazine/17pessimist-t.html?em
Hey, thanks for the always snarkalicious Dependable Renegade this evening. Watertiger, you are teh gal !
(ps, I was over at your site just now having a great laugh.)
bluegal, you are rockin' tonight !
iraqconcilable @ 41:
She looking after a retarded person. I'd say that qualifies.
banjomon @ 36:
Blackbox voting has some suggestions on what you can do.
http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/73/77633.html
I fear that a president McCain will make Bush look good. Sure, Bush is a corrupt moron but I'm afraid that McCain is all that plus batshit insane.
Karen @ 40:
i agree i saw/listened to that interview....i can't believe how the bush adminstration trying to blow this off. bush came to libby's rescue. they didn't show loyality to bush and cheney........it's treason.
VegasRage @ 35:
gang signs?
Like any gang would want Bush as a member.
No W is just reminding people in sign language that he's an asshole.
constituent @ 18:
See. If you are rich and unscrupulous you can pick your nose AND your family.
"She’s wearing more makeup than Health Ledger in The Dark Knight."
Looks to be more in the style of the Nicholson Joker.
"Must...cover...the...shame..."
someguy @ 48:
The neo-cons don't count as a gang?
I think he's trying to sign the number 9. Someone a couple rows down had asked him what he scored on an I.Q. test.
If you think that pic is bad, the others of bush from the same event were MUCH worse...
http://wonkette.com/401833/was-bush-falling-down-drunk-at-olympics
I'm having trouble imagining these guys handing over power if Obama wins. They'll either have to destroy every document produced over the past eight years or declare martial law. The risk that they might miss a document is just too great, so suspension of the law will be necessary.
The example set by Pakistan has surely been studied closely. The example set by Putin of naming his successor and remaining in actual control must be much admired. I'm thinking a transitional government in which Bush leaves, another pawn is brought in as figurehead, with Cheney staying on in a consigliere role.
In order to maintain freedom in America, it will be necessary to suspend freedom in America, indefinitely, they will tell us. And the media will urge us to rally around our leaders and denounce those dirty revolutionaries who refuse to comply.
As someone already pointed out that's quite the collection of forehead furrows. Sure didn't come from thinking. I swear he looks like he's part Bajoran. In which case his sign would indicate that his cloaca is dilated for mating.
Karen @ 51:
Don't be silly.
There's no way he scored that high.
someguy @ 55:
As usual, he was lying.
He was trying to inflate his score to above average. He just didn't know what average was. Expect a media "debate" soon about whether 9 actually is an above average I.Q.
;)
D. C. @ 14:
I've always thought she looked like Cesar Romero in the original Batman.
Seriously. Separated at birth.
if bush would just go stand in front of the
bus he has thrown the rest of us under.
Karen @ 26:
god, wouldn't that be great? What shall we name it?
False Dmitriy @ 53:
The fact that a third Republican administration would take advantage of at least four more years to hide the skeletons and destroy the evidence is a given. It's a Republican tradition. Ford cleaned up after Nixon's Watergate mess and the secret war in Cambodia, and pardoned Nixon and the other criminals. Bush Sr. cleaned up after Reagan's Iran/Contra scandal, and pardoned the criminals. McCain's first priority in getting into the White House will be to pardon everybody that had anything up to the falsifaication of evidence to send the country to war, outting a CIA agent (Plame), putting a political prisoner (Seigelman) in jail to subvert the democratic process, firing U.S. Attourneys for not prosecuting enough Democrats, illegal wiretapping by telecoms that started BEFORE the Patriot Act was made law etc. And, like Ford, he'll say he did it for the 'good of the country.' You know, that famous "our long national nightmare is finally over" line after Ford pardoned Nixon. (And it was worse than a pardon for a crime he was convicted of. It was a blanket retroactive pardon for anything and everything he MIGHT have done, thus making it pointless to even INVESTIGATE all the things that went on. I'm sure the Republicans could pull a few more of those types of pardons out of their ass.)
As for Bush following the Pakistani example, it's actually the other way around. People in Pakistan, having just forced a dictator out of office, are now watching the U.S. on their T.V. sets, shaking their heads, and saying "boy, I'm sure glad we don't live in a backwards country like that." Meanwhile, Musharraf is watching the U.S. on TV, shaking his head, and saying "boy, I sure wish I'd had Nancy Pelosi and Anonin Scalia watching MY back." Talk about an embarrassing moment in U.S. history.
RobertD @ 59:
Oh, I have a name for it. Wanna join me?
The name is the Libeqrats' Party.
Libeqrat is a hybrid of LIBerty, EQuality and RATionality.
this clown for 8 yrs.......now potentially clown II say it isn't so.
Karen @ 40:
My wife and I thought exactly the same thing when Katie CutiePie said, "Admit it." As though Plame should somehow atone for the error of her ways. She did the same thing to Joseph Wilson when he wouldn't give her the answer she was looking for by saying to him, "You're still seething, aren't you?"
The beauty of the whole thing, though, was that these aren't typical ignorant Americans, cowed and star-struck by a famous person telling them they've been "bad." They both had ready comebacks for Couric. We felt their responses made Couric look small and partial.
Karen @ 61:
Damn straight.
RobertD @ 59:
The problem with civil libertarians is that they have no use for social programs. Universal heath care is anathema and I can't imagine civil libertarians doing anything at all about a situation like hurricane Katrina. I admire Karen's posts a great deal but this philosophy has as many adherents on the right as the left and the right wing perspective makes having progressive policies pointless since government is to be limited to the point where it can do nothing but the most basic of functions With regard to the rest of her comment, I am in complete agreement.
Karen @ 56:
For those to whom 9 is above average there's foxnews where one can learn Obama is both a Muslim and has a crazy minister.
Peter G @ 65:
Actually, PeterG, you're referring to Libertarians -- capital L, either members of the Libertarian Party or people who espouse right-wing Libertarian positions.
Civil libertarians are not the same. The ACLU, for instance, is a largely civil libertarian organization. Civil libertarians simply oppose government interference with (ahem) civil liberties -- the basic right to pursue happiness in one's private life to the extent that one does not infringe on the rights of others.
The Libeqrats' Party (should it ever actually come to be) would not oppose social programs. That's why I put "socially progressive" after "civil libertarian" in the description.
:)
Peter G @ 65:
I think you're thinking of Libertarians, not "civil libertarians." Two different things.
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Q U E S T I O N:
What does it mean when the so called "LIBERALS" rally around proving who's the better Christian Presidential candidate?
What good then, is an opposition Party?
Got religious tests?
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Wee Mousie @ 49:
How do the McCains get away with all the crap they have pulled in their lives and still have the audacity to run a campaign on family values ?
Cindy McCain is more worthless than he is if that is possible. She claims to be an only child, yet she has two half sisters. One by her father by a previous marriage and one by her mother and a previous marriage, yet she denies both. Democrats don't deny half siblings. Barack doesn't and Bill Clinton didn't either. These people are real lowlife's.
Karen @ 67:
You beat me to it. Sorry to duplicate, all.
RobertD @ 64:
:) Glad you like it. I was trying to start a blog with the Libeqrats' perspective on issues in June. (Click my name if you're so inclined.) Then I got so busy with work, I couldn't add to it. Interested in helping me get it going again, RobertD?
I am disturbed that I have heard nothing but attacks by McCain and nothing about what he will do if elected, only what he won't do. So much so that think I have found the perfect slogan for his campaign.
McCain's campaign slogan:
John McCain. I'm not Obama. Vote for me.
SassySandy @ 70:
i'd like to see it get some coverage why not.......they're constantly attacking obama's character......mccain can't talk about an issue/topic without knocking i'm sick of it.
NOTHING TO SEE HERE FOLKS, MOVE ALONG!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26279202
Karen @ 72:
That sounds really cool. I'm probably the only person left on C & L with dial-up (techies reading this, please stop throwing things at me). Will that complicate things terribly? For example, downloading clips from The Daily Show might take me a week. Thoughts?
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McCain's Mansions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek3jAkx9m10
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Russia claims to be retreating when really it's advancing.
Rove landed the Putin account!
Joe Tseng @ 75:
OMFG!!!
So, the FBI tossed the ONLY KNOWN SAMPLE from Ivins, yet relied on a secondary source to prove that the "UNIQUE" sample originally tossed came from Ivins?
I smell a contrived set-up and pin the blame on the fall guy while the real terrorist walks.
THIS IS FAR TOO EASY FOR THE FBI.
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RobertD @ 76:
Well, simply writing about things and linking to them doesn't require anything more than dial up. You're doing it here, after all. :)
The idea would just be to find news stories and put the Libeqrat's perspective out there. Perhaps we should e-mail to make sure we're on the same page. :)
I'm at liveliest DOT crib AT gmail DOT com.
Did anyone see the one hour biography that Bill Hemmer( or whatever his name is, the Fox guy) did on Obama tonight ? I can't stomach FOX so I can't watch. My guess is, it had to be a hit job. This Bill guy is the one that used to be on CNN in the mornings with Jack and Solidad. Him and Jack got along like cats and dogs. He finally went to FOX where he belongs and Jack went to the afternoons with Wolf.
The FBI destroyed
that mystery anthrax. Russia is using our playbook on keeping promises. More Afghan suicide bombers.
False Dmitriy @ 78:
REMEMBER:
The same sources that spread the un-"truth" about Iraq's WMD,s, ties to al-CIA-duh, imminent threat, Pakistani stability, and Iranian enrichment is also the same un-"trusted" sources informing us about who's doing what in and to Georgia. Yet, these same sources report about Georgian towns burned down with out ever seeing the towns... And no one is calling B.S. on this propaganda...?
Humm... who attacked whom first?
Humm... who attacked what first?
Humm... who asked for military protection and from whom?
Humm... under U.N. charters of war, who's allowed to retaliate?
When we become familiar with the FACTS, then the propaganda pictures become that much more clear.
Q U E S T I O N:
If Baja Mexico sought to separate from Mexico proper and asked the U.S. for military cover should it become necessary and then the US proceeded to set up a military base in Baja Mexico to protect American tourists visiting there and Mexico proper attacked our military outpost and the surrounding civilian populations, would it be proper for the US to not retaliate? What would it be called if Venezuela propagated the image that the USA was the aggressor? Now, how is this any different?
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Woohoo! Look!! There's Pickles and Doofus!!
George Bush representing America, joyful. I've been thinking and I decided that it is unfair to constantly point out all the ways George Bush has failed as a president (or at life, or as a human), so I compiled a list of all his successes to date, and it is a surprisingly long list check it out;
The Successes of George W. Bush
• He successfully impregnated Laura….twice
• He has succeeded in turning America into a rogue nation; he also succeeded in making us the laughing stock of the world.
• He has successfully enriched the lives of many, many really rich people
• He has successfully disenfranchised even more people.
• He has successfully polarized an entire nation if not the world.
• He has lied most successfully if not effectively.
• He has succeeded in causing the deaths of more Iraqis’ in five years than Saddam Hussein was able to pull off in a couple of decades.
• He has successfully worn out his welcome.
• He has successfully proven that government is best left in the hands of competent individuals.
• He has successfully earned the hatred of not just elements of the military, but the entire world.
• He has successfully declared a war on a verb.
• He has consistently succeeded at being a failure at all he does.
• He has successfully become a more successful criminal than Al Capone.
• Where many others have failed, he has succeeded in breaking the entire U.S Military.
• He succeeded in taking a budget surplus, and turning it into one of the biggest deficits in history all within his first term.
• He has succeeded in making cronyism and corruption into desirable traits in government officials.
• Although not smart enough to have thought it up himself, he has succeeded in making election theft look easy.
• He has successfully fooled some of the people some of the time.
• To paraphrase Rep. Rangel; he successfully shatters the myth of white supremacy once and for all.
• He has successfully embarrassed not only himself, but the entire United States of America in every country he’s set foot in.
• He has succeeded in becoming the worst president of all time.
• He has successfully destroyed not only his own credibility, but also that of the Republican Party and of America in general.
• He has succeeded in spreading more fear and terror than Freddy Krueger in his prime.
• As Governor of Texas, he succeeded in executing more people than any other U.S Governor in any other state in the entire history of the United States.
Heck’uf’a job Bushie;
Mission Accomplished
watchdog @ 85:
Does it count as twice? Twins take only one shot.
hugo has guests
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/PoliticsNation/Russia_wants_to_...
watchdog, great list ya got there but I would add one more to it:
He has successfully performed torture on innocent people because they have a funny name or were born in an 'Axis of Evil' country (ala Maher Arar).
Look at the tracks on his right elbow! Man he sure has some big scabs there!
Brad @ 86:
D'ho! I forgot they were twins, I guess I get the Homer Simpson award then.
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Four more WARS!!!
For more WARS!!!
Four more LIES!!!
For more LIES!!!
Four more THOUSAND(troops dead)!!!
For more THOUSANDS(victims killed)!!!
Four more TRILLIONS(dollars spent)!!!
For more TRILLIONS(profits made)!!!
Just what FOR???
An opinion ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPbJY2rs0QI
Or just FOUR more???
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Republicans urge drilling for snake oil
D'oh! I forgot they were twins, oh well, put me down for the Homer Simpson award.
It's a work in progress, feel free to add to it as you see fit.
Rick @ 89:
Rugburn
watchdog @ 85:
Actually, I thought the goal was to prove that government really is EVIL (if it's possible for a guy like him to usurp control of it, and STAY in control of it), and should be eliminated, which has been the conservative/libertarian goal all along. Now even liberals believe this.
So, ironically, if you're a conservative/libertarian who gets elected to office, there is no way you can lose! If you govern well, you prove that conservatives are inherently good. If you govern poorly, you prove that government is inherently bad.
The think that scares me most about Bush/Cheney is that they've almost come to the point of proving that democracy does NOT WORK. The trash can of history is full of failed nations that had wonderfully democratic sounding constitutions, but they were failed by the human element. It would be a real tragedy if the U.S. were added to that list because of THESE GUYS, and (more importantly) because of US.
Finally Equal movie trailer
Based on short story _Harrison Bergeron_ by Kurt Vonnegut
I noticed this theme was a component in Terry Gilliam's The Adventures of Baron Munchausen.
Pericles @ 95:
Democracy works fine, the problem is in getting a congress that is willing to uphold the law and not worry about how popular they will be if they do.
watchdog, I'll always be happy to contribute to your comprehensive list. Very impressive work on your behalf, may I say.
Time now for calgal to get some zees. GNA.
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The Three Stooges...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8rZxa5cnVk
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Our long national nightmare is nearly over. Thank God.
Embittered & Anti-Republicrat - Max-Hussein-1 @ 91:
Another opinion...when John McCain is President, John Bolton is Secretary of State, Paul Wolfowitz is Secretary of Defense, Karl Rove is Attorney General, Grover Norquist is Secretary the Treasury, John Hagee is Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, and the bombs are falling on Iran, Syria, Pakistan and Russia, remind me to send a thank you letter to a little pollyanna with a flower in her hair who went around telling everybody to vote for Ralph Nader.
"The only justifiable purpose for political institutions is to assure the unhindered development of the individual"
attributed to Albert Einstein
Brad @ 102:
The founding document of the United States of America explains the purpose for political institutions as well: Governments are created to make the individual's equal rights secure.
[A]ll men are created equal, [and] endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights . . . . to secure these rights, Governments are instituted[.]
---Declaration of Independence
Pericles @ 101:
Just remember this in... oh, say four more years... if we make it there... K?
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Pericles @ 101:
Just remember this in... say four years... K?
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sry about the double post... bandwidth and server problems did it... ;/
Jacksonian @ 100:
Lets just pray the good Lord is through with letting America suffer under the wicked darksided demonic right wing.
Karen @ 103:
By identifying the highest value as being the individual, I can perceive the created equal part. Otherwise, on the face of it, individuals are of different value.
OH don't worry all . . . that is plenty of time for him to get us in a nuclear war with martial law. PLENTY of time.
Brad @ 108:
Yes, 'tis quite a conundrum, this "equality," no?
In my political philosophy, equality is a function of liberty. That is, each individual should be equally free to pursue happiness. Equality does not mean that each individual is to be the same as every other. It means that each is equally endowed with the right to pursue her own happiness. The individual gets the choice of means in that pursuit, and is limited in that pursuit only by the other's equal rights.
The proper function of government is to secure these equal rights. May the government proscribe the use of marijuana? Under what justification could people delegate that power to their government? How does it secure the equal rights of all? It doesn't. May the government proscribe murder. Of course. If each person has the equal right to life, then it logically follows that no individual may take the life of another. That power is rightfully delegated to government, in order to make our equal rights secure.
i'm going to LA for a quick vacation. Any suggestions guys?
motorfingaz @ 107:
Yeah, thanks a lot, omnipotent deity, for allowing the Busheviks to gain control of the American government by hook and crook.
Never mind this allegedly magical being. Don't pray for things to change. Work to make them change.
Saad @ 111:
A new travel agent?
(Sorry. I'm not a fan of L.A.)
I always did like the Improv, though. Never failed to laugh hysterically.
Karen @ 113:
thnx. its a spur of the moment trip but i want to squeeze it for all its worth
A fantastic article that takes a much closer look at Obama:
http://www.zmag.org/znet/viewArticle/18472
Karen @ 110:
Freedom to pursue happiness implies Freedom from encumbrances on that pursuit-movement. Freedom from burdens, drains. Feedom from having ones time sacrificed to other imagined higher goods through excess taxes.
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Mystery Surrounds Case of Terror Suspect
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President resigns!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHeRaL09yj8
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Georgia wouldn't have attacked South Ossetia without the green light from the U.S,
believes Paul Craig Roberts, a former assistant secretary to the treasury in Ronald Reagan's administration.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOJiVqg9_20
And people say there's no difference between the candidates!
Embittered & Anti-Republicrat - Max-Hussein-1 @ 119:
Fascinating analysis.
A a frickin moron and major embarrassment!!
Embittered & Anti-Republicrat - Max-Hussein-1 @ 105:
Deal! 3.5 years from now, if I get the chance to hold President Obama's feet to the fire, by threatening to vote for Nader, because Obama didn't follow through with his promise of 'change,' I'll be a very happy man. But I'd rather be doing that than whining about how bad President McCain and his cronies are, and lamenting the vote I threw away because I was too snooty to bring myself to support the Democrats. :)
Why don't you guys think missile defenses are necessary in Poland and the Czech Republic to defend against missiles from Iran? Don't you guys know that those missiles make refueling stops at the Russian border with Belarus and the Ukraine?
I can't wait for the day this bastard will leave the white house for the last time. It will be like the heavens are opening up for the American people.
Our special little...
ASS MONKEY
always ready at 3 AM.
ronhohn @ 123:
If Poland and the Czech Republic need an anti-missile system to defend against Iranian missiles, I can send them the 'magic eraser' tool from my Adobe Photoshop upgrade.
There is the expression of a man who doesn't give a shit anymore...
watertiger!
That's 156 too many.
On Aug. 19, 1934, a plebiscite in Germany approved the vesting of sole executive power in Adolf Hitler as Fuhrer.
Hitler Endorsed by 9 to 1 in Poll on his Dictatorship, but Opposition Is Doubled
Absolute Power Is Won
38,279,514 Vote Yes, 4,287,808 No on Uniting Offices
871,056 Ballots Spoiled
Negative Count Is Larger in Districts of Business Men and Intellectuals
Hamburg Has 20% Noes
Reich Bishop at Victory Fete Says Hitler's Anti-Semitism Is Fight for Christianity
By FREDERICK T. BIRCHALL
Special Cable to THE NEW YORK TIMES
Berlin, Monday, Aug. 20 -- Eighty-nine and nine-tenths per cent of the German voters endorsed in yesterday's plebiscite Chancellor Hitler's assumption of greater power than has ever been possessed by any other ruler in modern times. Nearly 10 per cent indicated their disapproval. The result was expected.
The German people were asked to vote whether they approved the consolidation of the offices of President and Chancellor in a single Leader-Chancellor personified by Adolf Hitler. By every appeal known to skillful politicians and with every argument to the contrary suppressed, they were asked to make their approval unanimous.
Nevertheless 10 per cent of the voters have admittedly braved possible consequences by answering "No" and nearly [text unreadable] made their answers, ineffective by spoiling the simplest of ballots. There was a plain short question and two circles, one labeled "Yes" and the other "No," in one of which the voter had to make a cross. Yet there were nearly 1,000,000 spoiled ballots.
Hate to spoil the party..Bush and Chaney are not leaving...get ready for the takeover...
Everyone knows you don't go full retard.
she is the joker. that is all.
we dont need no stinkin' single payer modern scientific health care in the USA, when we have faith based health care, praise the lord.
hmmm, I bet the insurance companies who take our premiums every week/month are happy about this.
(and deny treatment, claims and refunds based on statistics and likely outcome)
Tequila @ 17:
MSNBC.com had an advert for a $300,000 'liar loan' (no SSN required) on its front page the other day, shocked and amused me.
constituent @ 42:
the current situation foreclosures, liens and similar foreclosure dot com 2,049,413 as of 18/8/2008
this website has a US map and goes down to street level, city town zip code searches etc.
Damn this Coriolis effect ... we have to watch these turds circling the bowl for that long. Somebody put the seat cover down. It's disgusting.
Don @ 131:
Well; Chimpy is off the wagon big time now and as seen in the Chinese Olympic photos, unfit for office and very impeachable,
Cheney is missing (in a PR sense) presumed hiding for the last couple of years...
Chimpy has addiction and psychological problems, Cheney's heart condition (and guilt due to bad PR) is keeping him out of the public view.
McDumb is their great white Republican hope and their legacy for the next four eight years...
Karen @ 40:
When did this run on the TV?
Yeah, fuck you too Katie. Go back to blowing your corporate bosses under their desks.
More blood on Bush and Cheney's hands http://news.yahoo.com/story//ap/20080819/ap_on_re_af/algeria_suicide_attack
If only they had focused on this war instead of war profiteering in Iraq these 43 souls may be with us today. Just more death brought you by the "pro-life" administration.
☻Bangkok Bob ☺ @ 137:
I don't think the Coriolis effect exists in DC. Nothing ever goes down there, except, of course, the fluffers who want something done by a politician.
IRAQ
Military Deaths By Time Period
Period US UK Other* Total Days Avg
Total 4143 176 138 4457 1977 2.25
7 17 0 0 17 30 0.57
6 1040 46 14 1100 534 2.06
5 933 32 20 985 412 2.39
4 715 13 18 746 318 2.35
3 580 25 27 632 216 2.93
2 718 27 59 804 424 1.9
1 140 33 0 173 43 4.02
*Fatalities by Nationality
AFGHANISTAN
Coalition Military Fatalities By Year
Year US Other Total
2008 99 74 173
2007 117 115 232
2006 98 93 191
2005 99 31 130
2004 52 6 58
2003 48 9 57
2002 49 20 69
2001 12 0 12
Total 574 348 922
*Fatalities By Country
That's a whole lotta ugly for one family. What a ghoulish pic. They look like the f*cking Addams family.
CBS News: Voting Machine Doubts Linger, Concerns Over Vulnerability Of Electronic Machines Sending Many States Back To Paper Ballots 8/18
Republican wives keep Mary Kay in business.
fastfeat @ 141:
LOL ... Point taken.
McCain: ‘I’m proud’ of adviser’s lobbying connection.»
In an interview with USA Today, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said he had no problem with his senior adviser Randy Scheunemann’s close lobbying ties to the Republic of Georgia:
“I’m proud to have supported them,” McCain said of Georgia in an interview on the campaign plane. “And I’m so proud that so many of my friends have done so, who also believe in freedom and democracy.”
Scheunemann had been employed as a lobbyist for Georgia at the same time he was providing foreign policy advice to McCain, lobbying McCain himself nearly 50 times between 2004 and 2007.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 148:
McCain thinks like cheney and bush, "you'll take this freedom if I have to shove it down your damn throat, not shut up and be free and don't make me come over there."
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