Romney Misses Stephanopoulos Gaffe: Pwnd By Daschle

  Heather writes:

Tom Daschle manages to get in a dig after George Stephanopoulos mis-speaks and confuses Poland for Czechoslovakia and gets in a shot at McCain for not remembering that the country does not exist any more in response to Romney touting McCain's worldly experience with his response to the Russia/Georgia conflict.

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It really is a shame that Mitt's $35 million investment for President didn't pan out; it's pretty obvious that he would have been the weakest candidate of the bunch. And his "experience = judgment" argument re: McCain is laughable. Just as is true with Rumsfeld and Cheney, so-called "experience" is worthless when 30+ years of it leads you to believe that, say, a war with Iraq will be a cakewalk with no negative repercussions. For all his naivete and "inexperience," Barack Obama predicted rather accurately what an invasion would entail.



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SilentPatriot, there's a better link on Barack's judgment.

daschle secretary of state

Sorry Romney
you don't have a POW stamp in your passport.

Press Pass DENIED!

the obama campaign must be praying for a romney veep nod

when 30+ years of it leads you to believe that, say, a war with Iraq will be a cakewalk with no negative repercussions.

they didn't really believe that crapola. That's just what they told the credulous ruminants called the "People," to sell a war of acquisition and aggression to folks who were terrified into a murderous frenzy by the constant drum-beat of interventionist/exceptionalist rhetoric from the fascisti who would profit handsomely, both economically and politically (see where the term 'political economy' makes sense?)...

The real tragedy was and is that they were so RIGHT about how easy it would be to mainipulate, with OUT any consequences, the fears and frailties of the masses of sheeple who gawked heaven-ward in sheer fright.

Heather writes: Tom Daschle manages to get in a dig after George Stephanopoulos mis-speaks and confuses Poland for Czechoslovakia and gets in a shot at McCain for not remembering that the country does not exist any more in response to Romney touting McCain’s worldly experience with his response to the Russia/Georgia conflict.

Daschle's said: "Obama knows we haven't had a Czechoslovakia for twenty years."

Czechoslovakia split into the Czech Republic and Slovakia January 1, 1993.

I'll give Daschle and Obama the five years.

Daschle?
Not unless he's grown a set of honets-to-south-dakota BALLS!@
Cowardly, cretinous dickwhistle let the Booooosh regime take over without so much as a fuuunking WHIMPER...Loyal, you betcha...Opposition? ummmm, not so's you'd notice it...

romney would possibly still in this race had he said we should have a 'time horizon' vs. that 'laying in the weeds'
quote mccain was reading off that note card during the debates. i think the (RNC)asked him to step down so that they didn't beat each other up too much like obama and hillary did.i wanted to point something out here and maybe i'm off. a couple weeks ago bill clinton was asked if obama is ready and clinton said something like you could argue no ones ready for that office i think in some respects he's correct. mccain has been in washington/government his entire life he's bought..for the most part mccain is a third bush term period....and look where we are at now....are you/we better off?

the amazing thing is that Cheney himself gave a very accurate
picture of what an invasion of Iraq would look like during a 1994
interview with AEI.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9YuD9kYK9I

too bad he lost his soul on the way to the white House.......

Big E @ 9:

the amazing thing is that Cheney himself gave a very accurate
picture of what an invasion of Iraq would look like during a 1994
interview with AEI.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9YuD9kYK9I

too bad he lost his soul on the way to the white House.......

To lose something, you had to have it in the first place.

During this segment as well, Romney was pressed about the need to use diplomacy and negotiations. His answer was to say something to the effect: of course we will sit across the table from our enemies and try diplomacy and negotiations, but it must be backed by the credible threat . .blah blah blah

Romney quite week for much of the interview. IMHO this was Daschles best moment by far and yet it was still timid. The rest of the time he gave Romney a free pass to spout useless newspeak and talking points. Daschle acted timid and too measured.

I see a Democrat sell out pawn, a Mormon multi-millionaire Harvard cultist, and a public relations man for criminals.

The rest was blah, blah, blah, wah, wah, wah wah, waaaah.

Oh, and men of Romney's wealth typically appreciate their assets at a tune of 30% per annum. So by the end of the year, he will not have missed the $35 million he spent on his campaign. And he still could be president if McGaffe picks Romney as his running mate and they are selected by Diebold. McGramps has the beginning stages of Alzheimer's and will not last two years in office before he's diagnosed as clinically incompetent.

Say what ever you want about Daschle, but you can't deny that Both Stephy and Romney were OWNED...

Man...that was a big slam

I mean Stephy was so owned, he had to leave it there, and move on.

Romney was a one man outsourcing job machine when he worked at Bain Capital.

They sure do let that Romney fella go on and on, don't they?

The sad thing is that in this country, unless there is a personal desire to learn basic facts about history and contemporary geopolitics, these fuckups are going to go unchallenged unless an astute journalist or democrat is sitting next to the dimwits who are making them. And there are not many journalists left with either the smarts or the spine to do this, especially with too many of them sitting on the pity potty with Gramps. Of course multiply this by about a factor of 100 if they watch nothing but Fux Noise.

Pwned!

i think mccain can expect some evangelical resentment if he picks romney for veep...i don't believe many of them appreciate the joseph smith story....the city i live in they're about 80k strong at least and they will all vote.

MountainMan23 @ 6:

Heather writes: Tom Daschle manages to get in a dig after George Stephanopoulos mis-speaks and confuses Poland for Czechoslovakia and gets in a shot at McCain for not remembering that the country does not exist any more in response to Romney touting McCain’s worldly experience with his response to the Russia/Georgia conflict.

Daschle's said: "Obama knows we haven't had a Czechoslovakia for twenty years."

Czechoslovakia split into the Czech Republic and Slovakia January 1, 1993.

I'll give Daschle and Obama the five years.

My point being that the gaffe Daschle corrects is not the placement of the Missile Defense System (part of which is going to be built in Poland, part proposed in the Czech Republic) but that "Czechoslovakia" no longer exists, a fact that neither McCain nor Stephanopoulos get right.

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Shan @ 10:

Big E @ 9:

the amazing thing is that Cheney himself gave a very accurate
picture of what an invasion of Iraq would look like during a 1994
interview with AEI.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9YuD9kYK9I

too bad he lost his soul on the way to the white House.......

To lose something, you had to have it in the first place.

I think at best, he sold it. Either way, he is one black-hearted, selfish blob of useless.

JC Webster III. God's 10-Star General in the War on Media Pornography! @ 21:

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Maybe the Second Amendment isn't so bad.
Freak.

JC Webster III. God's 10-Star General in the War on Media Pornography! @ 21:

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save it for a ray bradbury convention fahrenheit 451..your name isn't guy montag is it

Big E @ 9:

the amazing thing is that Cheney himself gave a very accurate
picture of what an invasion of Iraq would look like during a 1994
interview with AEI.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9YuD9kYK9I

too bad he lost his soul on the way to the white House.......

Three years earlier Cheney spelled it out in even more detail.

The Gulf War: A First Assessment

Featuring Richard Cheney, Secretary of Defense
Soref Symposium 1991

.. I think that the proposition of going to Baghdad is also fallacious. I think if we were going to remove Saddam Hussein we would have had to go all the way to Baghdad, we would have to commit a lot of force because I do not believe he would wait in the Presidential Palace for us to arrive. I think we'd have had to hunt him down. And once we'd done that and we'd gotten rid of Saddam Hussein and his government, then we'd have had to put another government in its place.

What kind of government? Should it be a Sunni government or Shi'i government or a Kurdish government or Ba'athist regime? Or maybe we want to bring in some of the Islamic fundamentalists? How long would we have had to stay in Baghdad to keep that government in place? What would happen to the government once U.S. forces withdrew? How many casualties should the United States accept in that effort to try to create clarity and stability in a situation that is inherently unstable?

I think it is vitally important for a President to know when to use military force. I think it is also very important for him to know when not to commit U.S. military force. And it's my view that the President got it right both times, that it would have been a mistake for us to get bogged down in the quagmire inside Iraq. ..

btw .. read the whole speech .. particularly the parts about committing enough force to do the job, and the importance of forming an international coalition ..

No doubt in my mind Sect Def Cheney immediately set about plotting how to capitalize on the quagmire that would result if/when the US invaded Iraq:

(1) Downsize US military by eliminating all full time positions not necessary in time of war.
(2) In time of war rely on contractors to take the place of the full time positions that were eliminated.
(3) Merge Halliburton with Dresser Industries.
(4) Put GW Bush in White House, Cheney as VP.
(5) Invade Iraq.

Pwned? The response was pathetic.

It contained little of substance other thn a weak claim that "Obama has made the tough decisions" and a reminder of the Chezc. gaffe that most voters don't care about.

Maybe it's time for bloggers to grow up a bit and stop using such juvenile terms a 'pwnd'.

Didn't realise all caps were a no no. Anyways, it's humor guys. Channeled the spirit of someone who may or may not be real that used to call in Art Bell. If you want a good laugh in some time to waste: http://deepspire.com/jc-webster/ The transcripts are nothing short of hilarious and a bit disturbing.

Romney's pumping McCain's 'experience' and America's need to have someone steeped in foreign affairs at this important time pretty much made the case against his own candidacy...

Why didn't he think of that before spending the US$35 million??

JC Webster III @ 28:

Didn't realise all caps were a no no. Anyways, it's humor guys. Channeled the spirit of someone who may or may not be real that used to call in Art Bell. If you want a good laugh in some time to waste: http://deepspire.com/jc-webster/ The transcripts are nothing short of hilarious and a bit disturbing.

On the site, somebody wrote that the REAL "JC Webster" rails againstthe "the Satanic onslaught" of "media pornography" that he feels has run out of control in America..."

If Webster were smart enough to realize that the source of that "Satanic onslaught" is the corporate State propaganda system of public relations, entertainment, and advertizing--between the consequences of which there is no discernible difference: slack-jawed acquiescence, and therefore between the intentions of which there will be found to be an indiscernible difference--which has been our common intellectual fare since about 1920, and to recognize that the "media pornography" he decries and detests is, in fact, an almost perfect metaphor for the capitalistic economic system entire, then I'd say he was on to something.

But he's not. So he's not...

FACT!

McCain's advisors are tight with Georgia
Georgia starts a conflict with Russia
McCain has total access to Georgia
He looks Presidential

The whole thing was a set up.

Remember when Russia was destroying the Muslim Chechnyans? We needed to stay out of that one. Now they are doing the same to the Christian Georgians. It's a big deal.

There's thirty years of experience.

And there's one year of experience repeated thirty times.

MountainMan23 @ 25:
1991 Cheney analysis of the 1st Gulf war in greater depth:

too bad Cheney and all the neo-cons who came along since forgot the most important observation:
"I think it is also very important for him to know when not to commit U.S. military force."

The very same folks are still up to no good.... they will still manage to get away with whatever damage they do and make a ton of money on the misery.

.. it would be nice to see someone,.. held accountable... for something

Please join in on the commenting fun. There are a few, but very determined Romney-bots that post here continuously--and they are psychotic in their love for the flippin' Mittster!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9IJUkYUbvI

Can we no longer post links to Youtube here?

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Its amazing how different and right and wrong Obama and McFcukup are, chalk and cheese,
McDumb just parrots the populist Rethugian line, flip flops to suit which way the wind is blowing and how his lobbyists tell him to flip.

I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda.

I am not opposed to all wars. I’m opposed to dumb wars.

words that come from Obama's mouth, words that could never come from McCains. Rove, Cheney, Hagee, Chimpy and the MIC lobbyists
would never allow sanity to invade the crusty recesses of McDumber's sad excuse for a mind.

Big E @ 33:

MountainMan23 @ 25:
1991 Cheney analysis of the 1st Gulf war in greater depth:

too bad Cheney and all the neo-cons who came along since forgot the most important observation:
"I think it is also very important for him to know when not to commit U.S. military force."

The very same folks are still up to no good.... they will still manage to get away with whatever damage they do and make a ton of money on the misery.

.. it would be nice to see someone,.. held accountable... for something

I want to see them impeached, indicted, arrested, tried, found guilty and lawfully hung in public for 'war crimes' and 'crimes against humanity'

Darth_Romney @ 34:

Please join in on the commenting fun. There are a few, but very determined Romney-bots that post here continuously--and they are psychotic in their love for the flippin' Mittster!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9IJUkYUbvI

Just goes to show that they either want McNasty retired at the RNC conference and replaced,
or 'dog lover' as his VP and POTUS in waiting (ides of march etc)

Romney circa 1994 is a closet Dem, he should have dumped the Repugs and crossed the floor.
He seems too articulate and intelligent to be a real Republican.

woody, tokin librul @ 30:

JC Webster III @ 28:

Didn't realise all caps were a no no. Anyways, it's humor guys. Channeled the spirit of someone who may or may not be real that used to call in Art Bell. If you want a good laugh in some time to waste: http://deepspire.com/jc-webster/ The transcripts are nothing short of hilarious and a bit disturbing.

On the site, somebody wrote that the REAL "JC Webster" rails againstthe "the Satanic onslaught" of "media pornography" that he feels has run out of control in America..."

If Webster were smart enough to realize that the source of that "Satanic onslaught" is the corporate State propaganda system of public relations, entertainment, and advertizing--between the consequences of which there is no discernible difference: slack-jawed acquiescence, and therefore between the intentions of which there will be found to be an indiscernible difference--which has been our common intellectual fare since about 1920, and to recognize that the "media pornography" he decries and detests is, in fact, an almost perfect metaphor for the capitalistic economic system entire, then I'd say he was on to something.

But he's not. So he's not...

So very true, 99% of the degrading porn is pure corporate stuff for profit no matter the consequences,
the amateur types who post their own pics online do it for amusement or their friends.

dakine01 @ 32:

There's thirty years of experience.

And there's one year of experience repeated thirty times.

experience of taking other peoples money by fair means or foul, what a nice Republican...

Canuknotusa @ 27:

Maybe it's time for bloggers to grow up a bit and stop using such juvenile terms a 'pwnd'.

When politicians act like mature and moral adults who care for humanity, then and only then...

Darth_Romney @ 35:

Can we no longer post links to Youtube here?

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Thank you!!!!

:)

Old "Empty Suit" drifts back up to the surface, like a corpse bloated with air.

I think Daschle was only slamming McCain, who had been talking about "Czechoslovakia" in the present tense for days during this campaign. Stephanopoulos' mistake merely reminded Daschle of McCain's confusion over this and other geographic facts, such as McCain's famous Iraq-Pakistan border confusion. After all, Obama is running against McCain, not Stephanopoulos.

Someone said this before me, and I am paraphrasing them, but the question is 'does he have 30 years experience or does he have one year of experience 30 times'. Given how little Cheney and Rumsfield got right, I'd say more often it's the latter.

Republicans know how to win elections, but that's it. The are some of the dumb, stupidest sons-a-bitches known to mankind. They can't govern, they screw-up all international issues. All they do correctly is steal.

More GOP/Bush/McCain hypocrisy.
I've heard it before:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axrgFGZYFzE

Let's have some fun now:
The McCain-Nixon-Bush Tango
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvJVy_7LYU

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I think Daschle's point was that McCain in previous weeks had talked about Czechoslovakia. There hasn't been a Czechoslovakia in years. McCain is an expert of how the world was in the early 1990s -- if he's an expert at all. Not sure that will cut it now.

ferrofluid @ 39:

Romney circa 1994 is a closet Dem, he should have dumped the Repugs and crossed the floor.
He seems too articulate and intelligent to be a real Republican.

Do any of these right wing people wake up in the morning without cowering in fear at how dangerous the world is? I'm sorry but when he spouts the same old "how dangerous the world is" crap he loses me every time, I don't care how well he articulates it. Grow some balls mitt.

Thanks to all the libs here for their comments, I got a great laugh reading these tirades. And Heather, the 140 days in the senate junior senator Obama was not even in office when the Iraq war started so how could he predict the outcome ? I know I have broken the rules here by allowing facts to get in the way of your arguments, I'm sorry.

He's always reminds you to be afraid and how dangerous the world is...its the US government thats the most dangerous right now.

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