Taliban attack the French and US base in Afghanistan
By John Amato Monday Aug 18, 2008 7:00pmI think Russia has been paying attention, don't you?
Taliban insurgents mounted their most serious attacks in six years of fighting, one a complex attack with multiple suicide bombers on an American military base on Monday night, and another by some 100 insurgents on French forces in a district east of the capital, killing 10 French soldiers and wounding 21 others, military officials said Tuesday.
Three American soldiers were wounded and six members of the Afghan special forces in the attack on the base in the eastern province of Khost, bordering Pakistan, the Afghan military spokesman, Gen. Zaher Azimi, said. The battle lasted all night, 10 suicide bombers were killed or blew themselves up, and the insurgents were repulsed without entering the base, he said.
The heavy fighting in the two places is a sharp escalation in insurgent operations in what is already Afghanistan's deadliest year since the American invasion in 2001.
But the Surge is working, right? Sorry, wrong war.
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as worrisome as this may be, 10 dead taliban and all repulsed from entering the base is a very good thing. as a taliban assault, militarily speaking, this was an exercise in futility.
Why is this happening? ....................................
Because of bush and cheneys war in Iraq, the Illegal one, all out troops are there instead of in the right battlefield of Afghanistan.
If you haven't seen Jack Cafferty's Exceptional analysis of this fact and how mccain is like george bush I highly recommend this article.
Commentary: Is McCain another George W. Bush?
I think Jack is about to get HIS own show also.
dien bin phou?
tyree @ 3:
for the french maybe. ours was more like khe san??
phony how the Taliban raided a US base and then only happened to get the French.
anyone remember how Cheney and the neocons wanted to paint a U2 plane in UN colors?
anyone remember how Cheney and the gang pondered dressing SEAL's as Iranians and making mockups of Iranian patrol boats.
nah,
they wouldn't do something like that would they?
ccf @ 4:
ah yes draw the enemys fire and run them out of ammo, brilliant stratigy!
The taliban are doing what they did to the Russians, stop them from patrolling (don't think the French are going to send more foot patrols ahead of the armoured columns) and keep the allied forces in their bases (the Americans are trying to defend their base and especially the air base).
This is going to be a long war and there are thousands of suicide bombers coming in over the border from Pakistan. So what now????
Do we send in more soldiers like the Russians? What is our objective here after all? Do we have to militarily occupy the country to find Osama?
I think things are getting very bad and that nobody has any ideas of what to do now.
Kabul is being surrounded (the attack on the French was in a supposedly safer area).
ccf @ 1:
"ccf"
The US of A and NATO forces are pouring millions of dollars a day into their war effort in Afghanistan.
You are paying for it , I assume.
How long has this been going on ?
Eventually the USA and NATO will say goodbye Charlie.
Money determines the End Game in Warfare.
The macho ,gung ho, raw raw chant , only lasts so long.
They musta wanted ketchup to go with their Liberty fries.
Just say NO to heroin!
SCHRODINGER'S CAT @ 8:
" ccf"
In addition, I am not a fan of the Taliban.
They are ill-informed bimbo's, sort of like the Bush admisnistrion.
where is joe wilson when the taliban really need a hero?
Connie Rice will blame this on Russia. The Taliban were guess of George W. Bush when he gave them a tour of the United States. He called them his friend and welcomed them knowing their beliefs were different. Yes now look what's happen. The question Americans should be asking is the Bush Administration really going after the Taliban with so much drugs being sold. Looks like President Bush was using some of those drugs while he was in China. Notice how the Poppies get bigger and larger since the US went to Afghanistan. All this talk about WMD and Nukes when the real reason we are bombing the Middle East is for oil, drugs and to Control the World.
ot....but none of the blogs are talking about this
an anchor baby won the gold for the usa in freestyle wrestling
wonder which candidate is gonna use the kid for political purposes
his win is online...i stayed up to watch him wrestle
it was the only performance that made me cry...especially when he ran around the mat with the american flag draped over his shoulders
That's our Bushie!
bill mahers on larry king
So, ok. Obama believes that the "War on Terror" is a real war and should be carried out as a military operation and not as policing action as Andrew Bacevich suggests:
"...violent Islamic radicalism, by terrorist organizations, al Qaeda, really is akin to a criminal conspiracy, a violent conspiracy, a dangerous conspiracy. But it's a criminal enterprise. And the primary response to a criminal enterprise is policing. Policing as in organizations like the FBI, intelligence organizations, some special operations forces. That would undertake a concerted campaign to identify and root out and destroy this criminal conspiracy. But that doesn't require invading and occupying countries. Again, one of the big mistakes the Bush Administration made, and it's a mistake we're still paying for, is that the President persuaded us that the best way to prevent another 9/11 is to embark upon a global war. Wrong.
Ok. Fair enough. The junior senator from Illinois disagrees (or says he does):
"We have to understand that the situation is precarious and urgent here in Afghanistan and I believe this has to be the central focus, the central front, in our battle against terrorism," Obama said.
So let's follow the Obama plan. Let's do as he suggests and send in two more brigades....Think that'll help?
"Wrong."
SCHRODINGER'S CAT @ 8:
Have to disagree with you there. SC. If money were the answer Vietnam wouldn't have been a lost cause. You can't bomb a country into the stone age if it's already there. The logistical train required by insurgents is minute compared to a conventional army in the field. Unless that train is cut, as it was not in Vietnam, the insurgency continues. In many cases the disadvantaged insurgents become the next government.
Well, we all knew it was going to get worse in Afghanistan.
NATO resists penalties for Russia.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26294314
mudshark @ 19:
Guess where they get forty per cent of their oil and natural gas. Russia is holding the trump card in this case and they want everyone to know it.
Coalition Military Fatalities By Year
Year US Other Total
2008 103 82 185
2007 117 115 232
2006 98 93 191
2005 99 31 130
2004 52 6 58
2003 48 9 57
2002 49 20 69
2001 12 0 12
Total 578 356 934
Coalition Military Fatalities By Year and Month
Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Total
2001 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 5 4 12
2002 10 12 14 10 1 3 0 3 1 6 1 8 69
2003 4 7 12 2 2 7 2 4 2 6 8 1 57
2004 11 2 3 3 9 5 2 3 4 8 7 1 58
2005 2 2 6 19 4 29 2 33 12 10 7 4 130
2006 1 17 13 5 17 22 19 29 38 17 9 4 191
2007 2 18 10 20 25 24 29 34 24 15 22 9 232
2008 14 7 19 14 24 45 30 32 0 0 0 0 185
Fatalities By Country
Country Total
Australia 6
Canada 90
Czech 3
Denmark 15
Estonia 3
Finland 1
France 22
Germany 25
Hungary 2
Italy 12
Latvia 1
Lithuania 1
Netherlands 16
Norway 3
Poland 5
Portugal 2
Romania 7
South Korea 1
Spain 23
Sweden 2
UK 116
US 578
Total 934
Peter G @ 20:
maybe europe isn't buying into the neocon doctrine of totalitarianism, perpetual war and the never-ending search for the next enemy.
It's never in the news!
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CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 22:
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Russia is installing missiles in South Ossetia.
The game is a foot.
mudshark @ 19:
"It didn't take them really three or four days to get into Georgia, and it really shouldn't take them three or four days to get out," Gordon Johndroe, a spokesman for the National Security Council, told reporters in Crawford, Texas, where President Bush is spending time at his ranch.
"It needs to happen faster; that's what they've agreed to," he said.
Once again, shrub clears brush while another major storm brews...
mudshark @ 24:
the game is chess and we have leaders not even smart enough for checkers.
fastfeat @ 25:
the the going gets tough, the booshes vacation. they can't trouble their beautiful minds.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 26:
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Too True
fastfeat @ 25:
He's doing what he does best.. Be thankful he isn't more involved. The situation would only be worse.
Peter G @ 29:
scary AND true!!!
ccf @ 1:
"A very good thing", and there are 100 more to replace each of the ten dead Taliban. We tried body counts of enemy dead in Vietnam, we never lost a battle, and yet the US lost the war. They live there. We don't.
Johnny2Bad @ 17:
everything is Obama's fault,eh?
stop trying to hijacKKK the thread.
you've been too obvious for too long.
Peter G @ 29:
Point taken. I was feeling sorry for the brush...
tyree @ 6:
as i remember, khe sanh was pretty scary for our marines, but the vietnamese were heavily bombed and shelled for months with atrocious casualties. if american marines know anything, it's high explosives and good fortifications...i know. i was one.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 32:
Hijack the thread? You mean say something you don't agree with.
I'm on-topic and you know it.
Obvious this.
Johnny2Bad @ 35:
you've been doing it for too long. you are obvious.
ccf @ 1:
The article also never let us know that that "attacking" force never got within 1000 yards of the base.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 36:
Beautiful. Don't address my point. Just keep cutting and pasting.
ccf @ 34:
yes well helicopters , napalm and jet fighters were the only thing that saved the khe san defenders,
Johnny2Bad @ 38:
your point was a bogus as it was hypothetical.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 40:
No. My point was that Obama buys into the concept of the "War on Terror". He wants to escalate in Afghanistan.
I simply don't agree with either that misguided philosophy or the dangerous, doomed strategy.
This is what happens when 'elite' soldiers arrive in the believe in their own arrogance and find themselves surrounded by terrain and the hills and Indians. Gen. Custer's and the elite troops of the 7th Cavalry eventually found out what it means when old elite force tactics don't change with the new forces that surround him that day.
tyree @ 39:
u betcha...the french had not nearly enuf of the weapons of war and they lost. the russians had all, and more than enuf and they lost. but their attempts were nothing but a continuation of the "great game" played with great britain from the early 1800's thru 1907. the "game" was continued again by russia in 1979 with the same results as all the british incursions. defeat. we'll end with the same....history.. read it, or you're doomed to repeat it.
Other than the loss of life - civilian & military - and the enormous cost, the only discernible effect of the American War in Afghanistan has been the resurgence of the opium trade that had been all but eliminated by the Taliban.
Skull and Bones - founded by Opium Traders.
Connect the dots.
John (Spain) @ 7:
The objective was never about finding Osama.
The American War in Afghanistan almost made sense after the attacks of 9-11, if you believe the official conspiracy theory - boxcutters, bin Laden, etc.
At that time the invasion was to catch bin Laden and "bring him to justice" ...
But now?
As in Iraq, can anyone define what "victory" in Afghanistan will look like?
What objectives must the military achieve, so they can go home?
At this point the American War in Afghanistan appears to be a military operation with no clearly defined purpose.
McDuff @ 45:
let's not forget how the bush admin. just keeps moving the goal posts so as to better fit the reality on the ground. can't find bin laden?, hell we weren't looking fer him.
Johnny2Bad @ 41:
surface crap and soundbytes.
MountainMan23 @ 46:
that crap was as convenient and credible as the anthrax stories.
First they took Kandahar province and now they are moving on Kabul.
Can you say Quagmire?
Johnny2bad,
I agree with your observation 100%. Obama's approach will solve nothing. Considering his views on Georgia and Afghanistan, this throws into serious doubt his claim that he would have voted against the invasion of Iraq if he had been in the Senate in October of 2002.
What defines winning in Afghanistan?
the bushies are blaming the nato troops for the rise of the taliban
maybe if we had truly finished the job, this would never have happened
bush has truly made this world a really fucked up place to live in
Johnny2Bad @ 17:
We forget, it was not a mistake by the Bush Administration. The pretense was to get the OIL in Iraq and to build a safe pipline across Afganistan (if they could buy off the Taliban or invade and control the country). Again, nothing to do with terrorism. Terrorism is not new, we have used it ourselves. Nearly every terrorism campaign has been stopped by talking to and making deals with the so-called terrorist organization.
The war in afghanistan makes no sense. It bankrupted the USSR and now dumbasses in the US want to see us take over this mess? Bin Laden is in Pakistan but we won't go after him and kill em cause then we won't have an excuse for our war on terror anymore.
The average American is just plain stupid. Keep electing dumbfucks who lie you into wars. The US is broke and and our military overstretched. Think tough talk about the Russians is gonna accomplish anything?
I remember back in the 80's the Soldier of Fortune magazines had ads that said "buy a bullet and kill a commie". Now I bet the Russians have the same ads for Americans in their magazines. A neverending war in a shithole part of the world.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 48:
Wow. Another in-depth analysis.
Stick to to massive cut and paste jobs. Looks more impressive.
"Surface crap" indeed.
I wonder if people will ever realize the reasons behind all this madness.
We are invading their country, and killing their people. They will resist and kill us every chance they get. They have every right.
We would do the same.
Maybe we should stop with the false propoganda about saving the women, bringing "freedom"...whatever. Stopping with all the lies is a great first step, getting our killers out of other peoples countries is second.
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