Houses The Same As Ties In Republican Eyes
You have to love the line "Celebrities don't have to worry about family budgets, but we sure do." Oh really, Mr. $100 Million Man? Most family budgets don't include $273,000 for servants. In fact, the average American house is only worth $218,000, significantly less than you pay for butlers.
Just when you thought the wingnut spin on McCain's home ownership amnesia couldn't get any worse, we are presented with this from Powerline:
The latest campaign kerfuffle is Obama's effort to make hay out of John McCain's inability to tell a reporter how many houses he owns. McCain mumbled something about condos and said the reporter should talk to his wife. Predictably, Obama is trying to spin this exchange as showing that McCain is "out of touch." (emphasis added)
First let's refresh everyone's memory with a little audio from McCain's now infamous comments of yesterday. The audio is still here, in which McCain clearly states (the opposite of mumbling) that he would have to have his staff get back to the reporter. No wife and no mumbling.
But this is only the tip of the iceberg from wingnut spintopia. The second paragraph is even more telling:
I can relate, though. For example, if a reporter asked me how many ties I own, there's no way I could answer. Just like McCain, I'd tell him he has to ask my wife. Likewise if someone wants to know how many Wii games my kids have.
Let's overlook the sexist overtone given in that statement; I don't think many wives out there would consider themselves the keeper of inventory for their husbands. Instead let's look at this very poor comparison being made. I couldn't tell you how many socks I own, yet I can sure answer how many houses I own. I believe this is something a vast majority of Americans could claim. Instead, for the Republicans, ties are now the equivalent of homes, which begs the most important question - how many ties are in foreclosure?
Ask which wife? The one he ran out on, or the new one?
"McCain mumbled something about condos and said the reporter should talk to his wife."
He didn't say "wife", he said "staff". Can't Republican reporters get anything right?
Even the pickem-up crowd ain't buying this one.
From FARK comments section written from poster bulldog4life:
Absolutely brilliant. This should be repeated every time the world "elitist" is spoken.
McCain will straigten everything out. He took the day off today to find all his homes.
If I paid $1,000,000 for my ties, I would know how many I own.
I know how many houses I own: 0 . Do I win anything?
Man, you should see the youtube comments. Depressing.
I wanna see interviews with the butlers, now. I'll bet the McCains are something else in private!
This is fantastic! They're on the defensive. When your opponent has to explain why something that looks terrible on its face really isn't that bad if you think about some sort of argument, you've won the round. When the argument is itself facially preposterous, and only reinforces the narrative being painted, even better. Keep it up, Barack! Be relentless.
And as for that ad . . . it's a perfect lead in to "McCain is an effing LIAR!" That should be the response.
I propose something like the following for the next Obama ad:
[cue ominous music] John McCain opposed the Bush tax cuts until he was for them. He first said that they hurt the middle class, while enriching the already obscenely rich. He tried to call himself a "maverick" for bucking his party. Then, when he saw he couldn't get the nomination that way, he changed his stance -- about helping the middle class! And now, he apparently can't remember how many mansions he owns -- you know, like he can't remember how many neckties he owns. Left with nothing in his own defense, he resorts to outright lying about Barack Obama's plans.
[cue rejoicing music] Analysts agree that with Barack Obama's help, the average middle class American will get tax relief in these hard times! Barack Obama has the judgment to understand that it's the average, middle class American who makes the country great, and who deserves tax relief after eight disastrous years.
Obama: Judgment You Can Trust.
krisken @ 4:
Obama should use that in the debates.
# ties= # houses?
What bull.
The GOP has shot it's self in the foot.
A number to remember, memorize, throw out early and often...$273,000!!!!... the amount of money John McCain pays his legal servants! How many of us millionaires can say that?!?
Don't know what all that dark "aura" around the edges is supposed to convey, but all I can picture is the old man with his finger over part of the lens! Or cataracs?
Either way, that ad is lame.
PEACE
You know, I'm almost waiting for InSane to slip up, and say something like, "It's not like we're that extravagant about our butler expenses. Some of our servants we don't pay at all. Like the slaves we own."
AHHHHH, why are people so stupid. Just reading the comments on that youtube video.
Crazy: "Jesus Would Never Vote For Obama!!!!"
Me: "Why? Because he cheated on his wife? What that was McSame"
Crazy: "Because he would (Not has, just that they think he would) have abortions, and Clinton cheated on his wife"
wtf... what kind of argument is that. he has kids, didn't have an abortion, is actually religious unlike mccain, and yet these crazies think McCain is the holyer than thou crap.
Also, they seem to believe whatever these ads say. "OMG LIKE HE"S GOING TO RAISE OUR TAXES"
I wish this nation wasn't full of idiots southerners. Should have let them succeed from the north and let them turn into a poor ass third world country. I'm sorry to those of you that live down there. It's just so infuriating that people are so dumb.
This ad should go, "OMG he's going to raise MY taxes!" That would be truth in advertising.
"groundskeepers". not butlers, groundskeepers. ;-)
btw intrade.com just (6:40 mt)jumped 30 pts to 80% for Biden. sounds like:
1) insider trading
2) biden's in (yay)
@ 2 RichStraightWhiteAmericanMale Says:
“McCain mumbled something about condos and said the reporter should talk to his wife.”
He didn’t say “wife”, he said “staff”. Can’t Republican reporters get anything right?"
They got it right. Right how they wanted to SPIN IT by trying to make it sound like Cindy is the keeper of the keys and he's somehow not involved in their financial affairs and therefore "innocent" of his hypocrisy.
$273 000 for SERVANTS!? Elitist indeed....
This information came from McCain's tax returns, as did the info on the number of houses he owns. Are they STILL refusing to make Cindy's public?
the "recipe for economic disaster" quote.
I couldn't make out the citation. Anyone see the source? Or was it blurred to obscure that it came from the ghost of Elvis?
I can relate, though. For example, if a reporter asked me how many ties I own, there’s no way I could answer. Just like McCain, I’d tell him he has to ask my wife. Likewise if someone wants to know how many Wii games my kids have.
When they're having to resort to this kind of idiocy to defend their guy, it seems mind-boggling that McCain has closed Obama's lead in the polls recently.
McCain is such an inferior candidate to Obama in all respects that if McCain wins in the fall, or even if he comes close, there will be only one possible explanation: old-fashioned American racism.
Del Capslock @ 22:
Or repeat of stolen elections.
This old f*cker is so pathetic. I could be a better candidate than this SOB.
I'm sorry America, but if you vote this douche bag into office....you deserve EVERYTYHING you get.
We are a nation of morons, but I'm hoping those with some intellect prevail.
PLZ, plz, plz...bring civics back into the high schools. We are a f*cking nation of morons, by our own fault. Our young have NO idea what has transpired in history. BRING BACK civics..and bring back US History.....the REAL f*cking history to our youth.
Plz don't make us repeat the same dumb ass mistakes. None of the rest of the world plays the game like we do....lets cut the nonsense!!
If mccain approved this message, then he's a liar. Obama isn't raising middle class taxes, just corporate and wealthy.
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foreclosuretie statistics running at a mere 2,046,738 at the moment, amazing how manyforeclosureties are going on courtesy of GWB and his people.I can relate, though. For example, if a reporter asked me how many ties I own, there’s no way I could answer. Just like McCain, I’d tell him he has to ask my wife. Likewise if someone wants to know how many Wii games my kids have.
Or how many mistresses.
If government worked, when liberals controlled it we would end up with less religious/racial oppression, better relations with other countries and actually protection of our rights. And when conservatives ran the government we would have less taxes, more economic freedom and less crime because of protection of 2nd amendment and firm but responsible law enforcement.
HOWEVER GOVERNMENT DOES NOT WORK, so every time liberals run it we get higher taxes, ridiculous spending (on things like universal health care and global warming) and outrageous regulations that only protect big corporations by destroying smaller competitors from having a chance.
And when conservatives get into power they get into many conflicts, pretend to cut taxes but in reality only get the Federal reserve to pump money into the market (which makes all our money worth less and is actually worse than taxes), and they push silly laws to regulate morality and try to force religion down our throats.
Obama and McCaine are equally bad for this country. I know most of you know that but for some reason you are so blinded with partisan nonsense that you won't let yourself do the right thing, by NOT supporting either of them. DO NOT SUPPORT our destroyers. There is not much time left...
sm @ 28:
And I just know that you have a suggestion on who we should support. Please tell us, the suspense is killing me.
McCain says Obama is going to raise taxes on middle class Americans. Of course, in McSame's world you have to make 5 million a year to get be rich. Anything less than that is middle class.
sm @ 28:
DO NOT SUPPORT our destroyers?? This is one of those destroyers sm is talking about.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:USS_John_S._McCain_DDG-56.jpg
Ron @ 29:
Lol, I know, eh? Sometimes I feel like I'm being courted by Jehovah's witnesses or Mormon's when these guys come around. That knock at the door that intrudes on your dinner to tell you that everything you think is wrong, but oh, they have that answer you weren't looking for! (Disclaimer, I married a former Jehovah's Witness and have known plenty of perfectly wonderful Mormons.)
the mccain ad is a god damn lie. the economist magazine states obama's plan would significantly reduce taxes for the 90% that need it most....and i don t mean the rich.
The Savings and Loan swindler Charles Keating helped finance the McCain's homes. Why isn't this brought up? Charles Keating who scammed the US Taxpayer with his Savings and Loan business using Sen. John McCain to swing special deals in the US Senate and it cost the US taxpayers $32 BILLION to bail out the Savings and Loans. Some say it was closer to $64 BILLION.
sm @ 28:
Wanna know a little secret about Social Security and Medicare? They work.
Did you live through any part of the 20th Century? Despite conservatives' best reactionary efforts in the 1980s and the past 12 years, due to liberals controlling government -- FDR, Truman, LBJ, Kennedy in the executive / Democratic control of the Congress for the vast majority of the century / those dreaded liberal activists on the Warren Court -- we do have less religious and racial oppression.
Social Security, Medicare, Title VII, Title IX, the Civil Rights Act, anti-discrimination laws, etc. Good ol' fashioned liberalism. It's easy to say that there has been no progress on race relations when one suffers prejudice, but no one really believes that things were just as bad as they were in the 1920s as they were in the 1950s as they were in the 1970s, etc.
If the so called conservatives in the modern Republican Party would tell the fucking truth about what they wanted, it would be patently clear that they are greedy authoritarians. There are genuine conservatives out there I respect greatly. They're not in power, though.
Oh...oops....I made the mistake of arguing as though you were sane.
This word "equally." I do not think it means what you think it means.
Ron, Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are the only politicians I have seen running for president that I could even remotely support (so far in my lifetime). Even they aren't perfect, but what I am saying is that these 2 men have the minimum level of honesty and integrity that we should DEMAND in our political leaders.
All these other guys don't even come close. Obama and McCaine aren't even promising the right things, like END the WAR NOW, STOP SPENDING MONEY, REPEAL UNconstitutional ACTS, IMPEACH BUSHCO, ABOLISH the IRS and FED. What the hell makes you think they will DO any thing positive.
Please make a list of what either Obama or McCain will do to help this country. Then in a couple years when everything you expected didn't happen maybe you will wake up.
This is all because McVerb/Noun/POW's effort to make hay out of arugula. I heard Neil Culvuto (or whatever the hell his name is) make hay out of arugula TODAY! These right wing turds are just unreal.
That ad is a blatant lie. Sure, there will be a tax increase if you make over $250,000.00. No one pictured in that video looks like they fall into that tax bracket. Then again, McCain wouldn't understand. He was born with the golden spoon in his mouth and married a golden spoon. McCain has no idea how the average American lives.
As long as he's not using his property to abuse other people, then what the hell do I care how many houses he has?
Yes he's out of touch.. but he's a conservative and he's in his 70's.. what the hell do you expect?
sm @ 36:
Oh, jesus, a Ron Paul freak. Say no more.
which begs the most important question - how many ties are in foreclosure?
Ouch!
"...he just wants to raise your taxes."
Yes, taxes will have to be raised. The free lunch is over, America.
sm @ 36:
Do you understand that Ron Paul and Kucinich are polar opposites on almost every single domestic issue?
Del Capslock @ 22:
McCain hasn't closed Obama's lead at all. This is just more BS trying to inject some drama into the election by the networks. They know damn well the old bastard won't get elected, and he'll get his ass handed to him in a landslide.
most americans are naive enough to think that someday they may be rich like mc cain so 8 houses actually feels good to them. like it is my turn now thinking.
it is the american dream that is slideing down fast thanks to reagan's deregulation that middle class americans lined up to vote for. ie self destruction
the have mores have never had it so good since reagan. one per cent own more wealth than the bottom 90% and getting worst.
pure genius reagan you finally found a way to eliminate those pesky middle class whiners that dr phil talks about
the only country that borrows from communists, socialists, and kings then brags about how good their economic system is compared to others in the world and to top it off americans have a negative savings rate and a mega positive shopping rate.
americans are not the brightest bulbs on the planet as we sink into second class status. the world will be safer for our decline. one less imperialist country in the world.
The average home is something like 5 times the average household income, isn't it? How much is five times the McCain family income...oh, that's right, no one knows because his wife won't disclose her annual slice of the money pie.
If William Ayres is fair game to connect to Obama, then the mental midget at Powerline would be fair game to connect to McCain.
I am sick of McCain and his stupidity. We already had an academic underachiever advanced by his daddy run this country into massive debt, unforgiveable crimes against humanity, and constitutional rape. Please, dear Lord save us from this moron-the present idiot and the old fool running for prez now.
Assrocket makes his wife keep up with how many ties he owns? Poor Mrs. Assrocket.
"...for the Republicans, ties are now the equivalent of homes..."
But you have to put it in context. These republicans own really expensive ties.
#17 TLuna. and 28 SM You must be in the top 1% of income earners in the US since that's the group that the republic party made sure you paid no taxes on your fortunes. As you well know, if you are in in the low or middle you would be getting a big tax cut with Obama and only people like you would have to pay something on your money. (I believe John Mcbush said you had to make $5,000,000 to be rich).
And as for the ties, he sure pays a lot for them. He must have 37 virgins spinning his silk for those ties he wears to compare them to houses. Some people say "he's a Muslim" if his ties are as expensive as a house.
...after his horrible experiences as a p.o.w., mccain probably feels entitled. entitled to have 7 homes to lay his single head when a good many Americans are scratching and fighting to keep just one-many being starter homes. entitled to have lobbyists working for him even after the country has witnessed the fallout and consequences of what the 'work' of lobbyists has actually done for the country. entitled to squawk about 'celebrity' when all we are looking for is some leadership that will talk to others with reasoned, civil tones and not always make every stupid talking point an invitation to a fight, or an unwanted shoulder massage. entitled to call people 'little jerks' and 'c**ts' because it's how they did things when he was flying missions over 'nam and the women probably, maybe didn't complain...cindy! if change means having a few 'insiders' that can right the ship and not a sh*tload of toadies to muck the waters, i'm all for it.
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