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Do Republicans Have A "Sugar Momma" Double Standard?

Back in 2004, conservatives from all corners of the media attacked John Kerry as a "gigolo" who never earned a dime in his life and owed everything to his rich, heiress wife. Well, now that the tables are turned -- and a Republican is the one who owes his entire political existence to his rich, heiress wife -- is it unfair to use the same line of attack against John McCain? Salon's Glenn Greenwald examined this in a great blog post titled:

The right and men who live off their second wives' inherited wealth

[A]fter running his campaign based on depicting Barack Obama as an out-of-touch elitist and himself as the all-American Everyman, McCain lives a life that is about as far removed from the Average American as one can get, and has done so for decades. What's notable is how McCain was able to live that way. McCain himself isn't actually rich. He just lives off the inherited wealth of his much younger former mistress and now-second-wife -- for whom he dumped his older and disfigured first wife -- and who then used her family's money to fund McCain's political career and keep him living in extreme luxury (after insisting that he sign a prenuptial agreement, which would make McCain the first U.S. President to have one).

There needs to be a lot more focus of this sort on John McCain's "character," given that, from now until November, no matter what Obama does, the Rovian disciples managing John McCain's candidacy will ensure his campaign is about little other than these sorts of slimy, personality-based, Freak Show attacks on Obama. It's what the GOP does and it's what the media is capable of disseminating.

Glenn provides about a dozen examples, all of which could apply to this election if you replace "John Kerry" with "John McCain." Take this one for example:

Rabbi Smuley Boteach, World Net Daily, May 25, 2004:

Now, having a wife who provides you with a private jet and eight multimillion-dollar vacation homes provides for a comfortable life. But is this the right preparation for becoming president? . . .

To be sure, that does not mean McCain never did an honest day's work in his life. But even while he did these jobs, his wives' wealth always gave him a safety net. He was going to be taken care of whether he succeeded professionally or not. . . .

Whether McCain wins or loses the presidency, he will still be living like a king.

Works perfect, no?

Oh wait, I forgot... Kerry was never a POW. It's only fair to accuse non-POWs of mooching off their rich wives. Nevermind.

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naschkatze Hussein's picture

The Republicans have a double standard for everything.

Blue Buddha's picture

Oh wait, I forgot… Kerry was never a POW.

Maybe Kerry wasn't a POW because he wasn't as an incompetent soldier as McCain.

EJG's picture

Blue Buddha @ 2:

Oh wait, I forgot… Kerry was never a POW.

Maybe Kerry wasn't a POW because he wasn't as an incompetent soldier as McCain.

Too bad the media doesn't mention the fact that he ignored the warning signal and that is how he ended up a POW next time he tries to use that as a free pass for everything. AH sorry, forgot, the Republicans OWN the media, that would only happen if it were a Democrat trying to get a free pass every time they stuck their foot into their mouth.

Radically Moderate's picture

So how many shoes do you have Cindy McCain?.............Hmmm?

StirFry's picture

Repubs , double standards? hypocrisy? Nah, never!

r's picture

blah blah blah....I was a POW....blah blah blah....9/11....blah blah blah...more fear mongering....same old rap...we gotta be able to walk and chew gum at the same time.

Brad's picture

Ketchup and Beer. Mmmm...

tyke's picture

Kerry's wife has a foriegn accent so that makes it different of course.

Have you seen the stories about Corsi (Obama swiftboater) claiming McCain's money came from the mob and that al-Qaida backs McCain? Pure gold.

http://wnd.com/index.php?pageId=57678
"Group tied to al-Qaida backs McCain for prez"

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=57354
"McCain fortune traced to organized crime"

Steve E's picture

And why not bring up all the Keating story over and over again just to remind people what a corrupt fuck this guy really is. Maybe CNN could do a special. Do ya think.

Karen's picture

EJG @ 3:

Blue Buddha @ 2:

Oh wait, I forgot… Kerry was never a POW.

Maybe Kerry wasn't a POW because he wasn't as an incompetent soldier as McCain.

Too bad the media doesn't mention the fact that he ignored the warning signal and that is how he ended up a POW next time he tries to use that as a free pass for everything. AH sorry, forgot, the Republicans OWN the media, that would only happen if it were a Democrat trying to get a free pass every time they stuck their foot into their mouth.

Isn't it astounding how McCain has been able to parlay botching a mission and getting captured by the enemy into war hero who endured as a POW for his country? It's Orwellian.

Oh, and Rabbi Boteach writes for World Nut Daily? Seriously, that site is a collection of the most profoundly frightening group of imbeciles!

Udon Nomee's picture

I hate to remind you all that, regardless of what the male ego likes to believe, in western culture it is the woman that does the choosing. Therefore it is the choice of husband that reflects the character if the wife, not the other way around...

mudshark's picture

Damn! Those two look like wax figurines at Madame (whatever) wax museum. Especially her.
(I can't remember the name of that wax museum)

james Ratliff's picture

naschkatze Hussein
You beat me to it and you are correct there is a double standard for everything republican, for at least the last 25 years or more. Remember nixon he said if your president does it its not illegal? Well I didn't think that I did but the facts say something different? Old ronny raygun. king george the first and the Iran contra deals, and now his son king george the doofus and his cabal have broken almost every law ever written and all of the ten commandments.
So why do the voters still follow these vile, evil, criminals, like they are heroes?
Can republicans hate America so much that they would destroy themselves to destroy America? Or are they just ignorant fools that think it couldn't happen to them?
It has the same effect no matter what the reason. republicans are destroying America and they either don't care or are just to stupid to know any better!

dennis's picture

Kerry married two wealthy heiresses, not one. Thus the gigolo tag.

And I believe that one came from Ann Coulter. Glenn Greenwald surely didn't have a problem with Kerry's wealth or his wives' wealth then.

Nevertheless, John McCain wasn't one of those who called him that.

So if anyone wants to be a sad imitation of Ann Coulter and follow that line of attack, Glenn Greenwald should step up to the plate and be the first.

RichStraightWhiteAmericanMale's picture

Of course Republicans have a double standard. When do they not? Will the media call them on it? Not a chance.

Oh Billy's picture

Anyone can take risk if they having nothing to lose. It's like playing poker "just for fun". This is just another example of how much he is like Bush. Bush knew he could take a "chance" at an oil company but knew nothing was at risk. Daddy was always there. McCain has his wife's bag of money. Obama and our new friend Biden earned their position. Who's the elitist here? Let's hope he chooses Romney so we can really hammer down the point.

You can almost hear Cindy..."John! If I'm not First Lady by November you're buying your shows at Walmart".

eric's picture

http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/when-all-you-have-is-seven-house...

"Cindy McCain sure has a lot of "accidents".
Either she 's been pointing out that former prisoner of war John McCain is "getting a little thin up there" again, or she's the Les Nessman of candidates wives."

dadams's picture

you can bet that soon we will hear
that obama and biden are responsible
for mccain having to depend on his
wife's wealth. it's coming.

the democrats always cause the gop
reichwingneocons to commit all the
crimes they have ever committed.
just a bunch of fucking slime gop assholes.

McCain the Liar's picture

How many automobiles does McCain have?

I still want to see his ex-wife interviewed.

lmab's picture

LEAVE CINDY ALONE! It's not like she's drug addict or anything.

The Truth Hurts's picture

You keep forgetting. John Kerry never fucked up his missions in Vietnam. If he had repeatedly screwed up and gotten his ass shot out of the sky...everything would have been different.

Karen's picture

[I]s it unfair to use the same line of attack against John McCain?

Fair? Fair doesn't play into this.

Does it really matter? That is, does McCain's having largely lived off of his wife's riches really mean anything about his ability to govern or how he would do so? Not really. Hell, we all should be so lucky to have a spouse whose wealth could free us from having to earn a living, and enable us to run for high office and make some beneficial changes in the world. Didn't matter for Kerry, and doesn't really matter for McCain.

What matters is that McCain sits atop this pile of riches like Scrooge McDuck, quacking at everyone else to buck up, stop whining, and forgo a vacation if times get a little tight. You know, if you're having a little trouble paying for gas, well, maybe you shouldn't go off to your private tropical island the third time this year in your private jet. It wastes fuel. Learn to sacrifice a little.

Kerry's position of privilege did not blind him to the plight of those around him. McCain's does. The fact that McCain didn't earn his wealth only highlights that problem.

Karen's picture

Oh Billy @ 15:

You can almost hear Cindy..."John! If I'm not First Lady by November you're buying your shows at Walmart".

You mean "shoes," right? That is, I would hate to think Walmart was creeping its way into show business too. ;)

dennis's picture

Karen @ 10:

Isn't it astounding how McCain has been able to parlay botching a mission and getting captured by the enemy into war hero who endured as a POW for his country? It's Orwellian.

Who knows, Karen. Maybe Orwell would have a problem with JFK and the PT-109 story as well.

Karen's picture

dennis @ 23:

Karen @ 10:

Isn't it astounding how McCain has been able to parlay botching a mission and getting captured by the enemy into war hero who endured as a POW for his country? It's Orwellian.

Who knows, Karen. Maybe Orwell would have a problem with JFK and the PT-109 story as well.

I imagine he would. What's your point?

getalife's picture

He likes to say our government is broken.

Somebody should ask him, Why is it broken?

What happened?

How do you fix a broken government John?

eric's picture

I so hope someone on our side has a video of John McCain's anti-American propaganda fims from Vietnam to release to the public soon.

ConcernedCanuck's picture

What is fascinating is that lifelong taxpayer "welfare" recipients, have their hands on taxpayer's wallets and control the flow. These bums spend their lives being nothing more than greasy lying used car salespeople. McCain, Biden, Hillary, etc, etc, etc, are nothing more than underemployed mooches off the system, yet get support from their parties like they are some kind of royalty. Really fascinating. Although supposedly rich, name the last Kennedy that didn't have some kind of taxpayer funded job. Good luck with that. And people praise them? Yikes. Good thing they only sing "God Save The Queen" in England.

mudshark's picture

dennis @ 23:

Karen @ 10:

Isn't it astounding how McCain has been able to parlay botching a mission and getting captured by the enemy into war hero who endured as a POW for his country? It's Orwellian.

Who knows, Karen. Maybe Orwell would have a problem with JFK and the PT-109 story as well.

dennis, stop being such a pissant. You're comparing apples to road apples. One was the real thing and the other is just plain old horse shit.

PNY's picture

And have we even heard a peep yet from Mrs. McCain? As I recall back in 2004, every time Kerry's wife opened her mouth she was attacked for being too out of touch, too cold, not First Lady material.

Well??? Let the games begin!

SCHRODINGER'S CAT's picture

A Few comments.

Unless you are registered you do not vote.

If you are registered and do not vote, then you deserve the government you get.

As a rule people do not change voting patterns unless they are frigging desperate , or they watch FOX NEWs.

As a rule people like slow , or non threatening leaders.

Most people are totally uninformed about what is going on in the World.

We have a neighbor ( the wife actually ) who does not read newspapers or anything else , and is totally clueless on what is going on in the World.

Edwin Hussein's picture

McPOW is also McGigolo, not to mention an out-of-touch, elitist with 7 homes, that flips-flops on everything, if his dementia doesn't stop him short completely. Keep hammering this message away.

Jo's picture

mudshark @ 12:

Damn! Those two look like wax figurines at Madame (whatever) wax museum. Especially her.
(I can't remember the name of that wax museum)

Madame Tussaud

False Dmitriy's picture

McKept.

dennis's picture

Karen @ 24:

dennis @ 23:

Karen @ 10:

Isn't it astounding how McCain has been able to parlay botching a mission and getting captured by the enemy into war hero who endured as a POW for his country? It's Orwellian.

Who knows, Karen. Maybe Orwell would have a problem with JFK and the PT-109 story as well.

I imagine he would. What's your point?

The point is, and no offesnse, but calling this Orwellian sounds like you've just completed Political Science 101. There are legions of botched military exercises throughout history that the person telling them or the biographer accentuated the positives and put it in a narrative that told you something about the character of the person involved in a positive light. If you don't appreciate what he did and what he endured that is fine, I have no problem with it. But for the majority of those who do appreciate what he did, botched mission or not, or the majority of those who disagree with you, it is hardly Orwellian.

Without getting into a flame war about Kerry, was what he attempted to do Orwellian? I know you disagree with the SBVT's charges against him, but the fact of the matter he left out a lot of things about himself in the narrative he portrayed about his war experiences at the Democratic Convention.

mudshark's picture

Jo @ 32:

mudshark @ 12:

Damn! Those two look like wax figurines at Madame (whatever) wax museum. Especially her.
(I can't remember the name of that wax museum)

Madame Tussaud

Thank you very much. It was right on the tip of my tongue, but I just couldn't get it.
And Man O man that woman looks down right mean in that picture.

chicano2nd's picture

Chris Matthew just said he believes that asking McCain about his houses was a veiled attempt to play the age card against him by the Democrats. He completely ignores that meddlesome fact that it was Politico.com that asked the question sending McCain into a tailspin. What's worst is he refuses to see it (willful and intentional ignorance?) as addressing who is really out of touch with the average citizen; who really are the elitists (read liars).

miss_kitty's picture

SCHRODINGER'S CAT @ 30:

A Few comments.

Unless you are registered you do not vote.

If you are registered and do not vote, then you deserve the government you get.

...

Whoa whoa whoa. I vote all the time. Every time. Your premise there saying those who don't vote "deserve the government [they] get."
We all end up with the same pack of assholes, voter or not. ANd I'd say, with my voting record, I hardly 'deserve' what's been going on in gov't since 1972.

roooth's picture

Kerry didn't screw around on his first wife and dump her when she was down.

And, Kerry really was a war hero - and he didn't get caught by the enemy.

Jo's picture

I can't even begin to think of a least likely first lady. Dear gawd, have we sunk so low as to have this slinky shrew in the white house?
I mean, let's face it, Eleanor Roosevelt she is not.

mudshark's picture

dennis @ 34:

Karen @ 24:

dennis @ 23:

Karen @ 10:

Who knows, Karen. Maybe Orwell would have a problem with JFK and the PT-109 story as well.

I imagine he would. What's your point?

The point is, and no offesnse, but calling this Orwellian sounds like you've just completed Political Science 101. There are legions of botched military exercises throughout history that the person telling them or the biographer accentuated the positives and put it in a narrative that told you something about the character of the person involved in a positive light. If you don't appreciate what he did and what he endured that is fine, I have no problem with it. But for the majority of those who do appreciate what he did, botched mission or not, or the majority of those who disagree with you, it is hardly Orwellian.

Without getting into a flame war about Kerry, was what he attempted to do Orwellian? I know you disagree with the SBVT's charges against him, but the fact of the matter he left out a lot of things about himself in the narrative he portrayed about his war experiences at the Democratic Convention.

I dunno dennis, maybe it's just me. But Most guys who have fought in battle and taken someones life, don't talk about it.period.

I wouldn't know, I got lucky. and served when all was quiet.75-78. But some in my family did and have for a very long time. and none of them talk about it,ever.

mudshark's picture

Jo @ 39:

I can't even begin to think of a least likely first lady. Dear gawd, have we sunk so low as to have this slinky shrew in the white house?
I mean, let's face it, Eleanor Roosevelt she is not.

True, But I'll bet she can throw one helluva kegger.

chicano2nd's picture

Is dennis here trying to act like he has something intelligent to say? Newspeak?

Bill B.'s picture

Every time one of these McCain surrogates tries to excuse McCain's gaffe about how many homes he has by pointing out they're all in his wife's name, I think one of the first words in response should be "trophy husband" (not to mention pointing out how disappointing it is to see a grizzled combat veteran hiding behind the skirts of his wife).

Indeed, it's no wonder Cindy McCain won't let John within a country mile of the family checkbook. John McCain has voted with Bush over 90% over the past 3 year, and just look at what those two have done to the national economy. We should all be so lucky!

SCHRODINGER'S CAT's picture

Udon Nomee @ 11:

I hate to remind you all that, regardless of what the male ego likes to believe, in western culture it is the woman that does the choosing. Therefore it is the choice of husband that reflects the character if the wife, not the other way around...

Udon Nomee .

I am a male and I figured that out ,many year ago.
Ie, After I was married.

Hey we, (ie. western male' s) know what we are doing.

My wife is clueless when it comes to reading maps.
She does not know north from south.

SK's picture

Wouldn't it really supremely suck if that soulless, lying, steely-eyed bitch Cindy McCain became the "first lady"??
Ugh.....
It really makes me sick to my stomach!

StirFry's picture

Jo @ 32:

mudshark @ 12:

Damn! Those two look like wax figurines at Madame (whatever) wax museum. Especially her.
(I can't remember the name of that wax museum)

Madame Tussaud

From the "Chamber of Horrors" in the one in London.

Carol's picture

All is fair in Love and Politics.
What was good for Kerry is good for Mcsevenhomes

Karen's picture

dennis @ 34:

Karen @ 24:

dennis @ 23:

Karen @ 10:

Who knows, Karen. Maybe Orwell would have a problem with JFK and the PT-109 story as well.

I imagine he would. What's your point?

The point is, and no offesnse, but calling this Orwellian sounds like you've just completed Political Science 101. There are legions of botched military exercises throughout history that the person telling them or the biographer accentuated the positives and put it in a narrative that told you something about the character of the person involved in a positive light.

Yeah, it's called spin. I've worked in professional politics. I've played this game.

If you don't appreciate what he did and what he endured that is fine, I have no problem with it. But for the majority of those who do appreciate what he did, botched mission or not, or the majority of those who disagree with you, it is hardly Orwellian.

Spinning McCain's ability to endure the enemy's treatment as a positive character trait is legitimate. Transforming Botching-a-Mission-and-Getting-Caught into War-Hero-Fit-to-Be-President is Orwellian. That is might have been done countless other times by politicians of different political stripes hardly makes it less so. It's precisely the kind of pervasive manipulation of language and people that Orwell lamented.

Without getting into a flame war about Kerry, was what he attempted to do Orwellian? I know you disagree with the SBVT's charges against him, but the fact of the matter he left out a lot of things about himself in the narrative he portrayed about his war experiences at the Democratic Convention.

You'll have to get more specific about precisely what you think Kerry did for me to answer that. In lieu of the specifics for the moment, it shall suffice to say that putting one's best foot forward and accentuating the positive while omitting less impressive or even negative parts of an experience can border on, or be, dishonest. Manipulating imagery, language and the media so severely that getting captured by the enemy unquestionably qualifies someone to run a war is Orwellian. If the facts pointed to Kerry's having done that, it would make Kerry's narrative Orwellian too.

And I don't think any of that was really your point. I think you tossed out an ad hominem argument hoping that "Democratic icons do it too" would give me pause.

eric's picture

TBogg speculates that some of the mysterious accidents Cindy has had were by caused by John's uncontrollable anger:

http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/when-all-you-have-is-seven-house...

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Friggen formatting....
dennis @ 34:

Karen @ 24:

dennis @ 23:

Karen @ 10:

Who knows, Karen. Maybe Orwell would have a problem with JFK and the PT-109 story as well.

I imagine he would. What's your point?

The point is, and no offesnse, but calling this Orwellian sounds like you've just completed Political Science 101. There are legions of botched military exercises throughout history that the person telling them or the biographer accentuated the positives and put it in a narrative that told you something about the character of the person involved in a positive light.

Yeah, it's called spin. I've worked in professional politics. I've played this game.

If you don't appreciate what he did and what he endured that is fine, I have no problem with it. But for the majority of those who do appreciate what he did, botched mission or not, or the majority of those who disagree with you, it is hardly Orwellian.

Spinning McCain's ability to endure the enemy's treatment as a positive character trait is legitimate. Transforming Botching-a-Mission-and-Getting-Caught into War-Hero-Fit-to-Be-President is Orwellian. That is might have been done countless other times by politicians of different political stripes hardly makes it less so. It's precisely the kind of pervasive manipulation of language and people that Orwell lamented.

Without getting into a flame war about Kerry, was what he attempted to do Orwellian? I know you disagree with the SBVT's charges against him, but the fact of the matter he left out a lot of things about himself in the narrative he portrayed about his war experiences at the Democratic Convention.

You'll have to get more specific about precisely what you think Kerry did for me to answer that. In lieu of the specifics for the moment, it shall suffice to say that putting one's best foot forward and accentuating the positive while omitting less impressive or even negative parts of an experience can border on, or be, dishonest. Manipulating imagery, language and the media so severely that getting captured by the enemy unquestionably qualifies someone to run a war is Orwellian. If the facts pointed to Kerry's having done that, it would make Kerry's narrative Orwellian too.

And I don't think any of that was really your point. I think you tossed out an ad hominem argument hoping that "Democratic icons do it too" would give me pause.

roooth's picture

dennis @ 34:

Karen @ 24:

dennis @ 23:

Karen @ 10:

Who knows, Karen. Maybe Orwell would have a problem with JFK and the PT-109 story as well.

I imagine he would. What's your point?

The point is, and no offesnse, but calling this Orwellian sounds like you've just completed Political Science 101. There are legions of botched military exercises throughout history that the person telling them or the biographer accentuated the positives and put it in a narrative that told you something about the character of the person involved in a positive light. If you don't appreciate what he did and what he endured that is fine, I have no problem with it. But for the majority of those who do appreciate what he did, botched mission or not, or the majority of those who disagree with you, it is hardly Orwellian.

Without getting into a flame war about Kerry, was what he attempted to do Orwellian? I know you disagree with the SBVT's charges against him, but the fact of the matter he left out a lot of things about himself in the narrative he portrayed about his war experiences at the Democratic Convention.

OK, this is the kind of crap that really pisses me off - because it deliberately tries to subvert the truth by painting Kerry and McCain with the same brush.

Kerry left stuff out? Sure, if you count the fact that he didn't go around patting himself on the back and calling himself a hero. According to the guys who really were with him - not the SBVT liars - Kerry was a hero. He acted heroically and he saved lives. Period. End of story.

Where are the men who served under McCain? How many of the men who served under him have stood up for him? How many are still in touch with him the way Kerry's old shipmates were still in touch with him? That alone speaks volumes about McCain's character.

McCain was a military failure, and I don't mean because he got caught. He had a dismal military career starting with his performance at the Naval Academy. But nobody is supposed to say jack about his failed military career, we're just supposed to reverentially give him a pass into the White House because he won't quit talking about it.

McCain, like Bush, is another failed son of a powerful father who thinks he's entitled to take what he wants, from the rich blond to the White House.

McCain graduated fifth from the bottom of his class at Annapolis. He crashed FIVE jets while he was in. (And that doesn't include the USS Forrestal disaster that he started then ran away from.) I wonder; of the other guys in the bottom ten of his class at Annapolis, how many of them got a chance to fly jets? I wonder what assignments they drew?

McCain, like Bush, has been handed one undeserved chance after another and screwed them up because when their desires conflict with their ethics, ethics always lose. He's just one more spoiled brat who was born on third and thought he hit a triple, and who has no trouble lying for what he wants and blaming anyone and everyone for what he does wrong.

One more thing about McCain overusing his POW status: he was not tortured. McCain was NEVER tortured - by his own definition. Every single thing he claims was done to him by his captors he has now claimed is not torture and therefore America can treat captors the exact same way he was treated and it will not be torture.

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mudshark @ 40:

I dunno dennis, maybe it's just me. But Most guys who have fought in battle and taken someones life, don't talk about it.period.

I wouldn't know, I got lucky. and served when all was quiet.75-78. But some in my family did and have for a very long time. and none of them talk about it,ever.

mudshark-

My dad fought in Okinawa and he never spoke about it either. I wish he had. Until I watched the Ken Burns WWII series on PBS recently, I had no idea just how brutal that battle was and what he must've gone through. But obviously some people do talk. Whether one does or one doesn't is their option and neither way is necessarily good or necessarily bad.

I'm just saying it's not Orwellian to put one's war experiences in a positive light. I would imagine that's been done all throughout history. Well before Mr. Orwell came along.

roooth's picture

chicano2nd @ 36:

Chris Matthew just said he believes that asking McCain about his houses was a veiled attempt to play the age card against him by the Democrats. He completely ignores that meddlesome fact that it was Politico.com that asked the question sending McCain into a tailspin. What's worst is he refuses to see it (willful and intentional ignorance?) as addressing who is really out of touch with the average citizen; who really are the elitists (read liars).

I heard that too - I wish the dem speaker would have had the balls to say, "yes, it's about competence. How many times did McCain reference Chechoslavakia last month? If he doesn't know how many houses he has, or what countries ceased to exist before the end of the 20th century, then, yes, it is fair to question his competence."

Then they brought up Reagan and his advanced age and the dem guy failed to point out that, in retrospect, we have no idea when Reagan began to have Alzheimers, but he was arguably showing signs of it while he was still in.

God in Heaven, these issues are fair game to talk about.

roooth's picture

mudshark @ 41:

Jo @ 39:

I can't even begin to think of a least likely first lady. Dear gawd, have we sunk so low as to have this slinky shrew in the white house?
I mean, let's face it, Eleanor Roosevelt she is not.

True, But I'll bet she can throw one helluva kegger.

Not a happy looking woman, for sure, but then, her husband did offer her up to contest the Miss Buffalo Chip title. Do you think McCain knows what a buffalo chip is?

And that whole sling thing - someone shook her hand too hard and aggravated her carpel tunnel? Can we get a shout from all the carpel tunnel people out there who have ever had a sling from a handshake? I swear - the shit they make up, it's like they don't even try for believability.

More likely, Cindy has a far worse drug problem than the public knows and it has caused her to have very brittle bones, which could easily be hurt by an over-aggressive hand shake.

Or maybe she pissed John off.

Plisko's picture

Isn't it astounding how McCain has been able to parlay botching a mission and getting captured by the enemy into war hero who endured as a POW for his country? It's Orwellian.

It isn't astounding at all. I bet if you let me write my own story about bad things happening to me I would come out a great hero in the end too. I would admit just enough of my own shortcomings to look honest while glossing over anything that made me look outright incompetent.

It's a perfect scenario of writing your own press.

mudshark's picture

dennis @ 52:

mudshark @ 40:

I dunno dennis, maybe it's just me. But Most guys who have fought in battle and taken someones life, don't talk about it.period.

I wouldn't know, I got lucky. and served when all was quiet.75-78. But some in my family did and have for a very long time. and none of them talk about it,ever.

mudshark-

My dad fought in Okinawa and he never spoke about it either. I wish he had. Until I watched the Ken Burns WWII series on PBS recently, I had no idea just how brutal that battle was and what he must've gone through. But obviously some people do talk. Whether one does or one doesn't is their option and neither way is necessarily good or necessarily bad.

I'm just saying it's not Orwellian to put one's war experiences in a positive light. I would imagine that's been done all throughout history. Well before Mr. Orwell came along.

It's all been part of political history since the first President.
But McCain is the first one to be a POW. That changes things right there. True,..........I can't say it, I just can't say it. I was going to say he served honorably, but he didn't. plain old did not serve honorably.period. I have members of my family lying in France from both world wars dennis, I have members of my family who rotted in the jungles of Burma and are still there.
When I think about ALL of the people who sacrificed everything, so that we can sit here and openly discuss this, It makes me both very angry and it makes me tear up. McCain signed Anti American propaganda, he capitulated, He collaborated. This is all common knowledge. Hell they even made a frickin movie about it. And when I think of the members of my family who never came back, or ALL of the men and women who never came back. And this guy is trying to play the "War Hero" it both disgusts me and righteously pisses me off. How dare he? And How dare all the lowlife fucking talking heads not question his military record? UGHHHH! I'm sure a Dem would get the same pass as McCain is getting, right?

Hannah's picture

Re Cindy Hensley McCain's beer fortune, apparently her father and uncle were bootleggers and involved with some very unsavory people.
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/content/printVersion/167059

And Senator McCain has used his influence to protect the liquor industry. Shocking, I know. Not.

More articles here
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/mccain

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Plisko @ 55:

Isn't it astounding how McCain has been able to parlay botching a mission and getting captured by the enemy into war hero who endured as a POW for his country? It's Orwellian.

It isn't astounding at all. I bet if you let me write my own story about bad things happening to me I would come out a great hero in the end too. I would admit just enough of my own shortcomings to look honest while glossing over anything that made me look outright incompetent.

It's a perfect scenario of writing your own press.

What astounds me is not that McCain would highlight his positive attributes no matter what. What astounds me is that he has been able to convince people that becoming a POW -- getting caught by the enemy -- means not only that he is a war hero, but one so exceptional that he is qualified thereby to run the country and its wars.

sednef's picture

Ah, to be a kept man

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mudshark @ 56:

dennis @ 52:

mudshark @ 40:

I dunno dennis, maybe it's just me. But Most guys who have fought in battle and taken someones life, don't talk about it.period.

I wouldn't know, I got lucky. and served when all was quiet.75-78. But some in my family did and have for a very long time. and none of them talk about it,ever.

mudshark-

My dad fought in Okinawa and he never spoke about it either. I wish he had. Until I watched the Ken Burns WWII series on PBS recently, I had no idea just how brutal that battle was and what he must've gone through. But obviously some people do talk. Whether one does or one doesn't is their option and neither way is necessarily good or necessarily bad.

I'm just saying it's not Orwellian to put one's war experiences in a positive light. I would imagine that's been done all throughout history. Well before Mr. Orwell came along.

It's all been part of political history since the first President.
But McCain is the first one to be a POW. That changes things right there. True,..........I can't say it, I just can't say it. I was going to say he served honorably, but he didn't. plain old did not serve honorably.period. I have members of my family lying in France from both world wars dennis, I have members of my family who rotted in the jungles of Burma and are still there.
When I think about ALL of the people who sacrificed everything, so that we can sit here and openly discuss this, It makes me both very angry and it makes me tear up. McCain signed Anti American propaganda, he capitulated, He collaborated. This is all common knowledge. Hell they even made a frickin movie about it. And when I think of the members of my family who never came back, or ALL of the men and women who never came back. And this guy is trying to play the "War Hero" it both disgusts me and righteously pisses me off. How dare he? And How dare all the lowlife fucking talking heads not question his military record? UGHHHH! I'm sure a Dem would get the same pass as McCain is getting, right?

I'm with you, Mudshark. That's what jerks my chain about the torture thing. McCain actually had the balls to sit at that Saddleback interview and detail his "torture" when every single torture he says was done to him, he now says is fine for us to do to whoever we please, which will only lead to more Americans being tortured. My son is on active duty. The idea of that corrupt old war-mongerer in the White House, keeping us at war forever, is appalling.

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roooth @ 54:

mudshark @ 41:

Jo @ 39:

I can't even begin to think of a least likely first lady. Dear gawd, have we sunk so low as to have this slinky shrew in the white house?
I mean, let's face it, Eleanor Roosevelt she is not.

True, But I'll bet she can throw one helluva kegger.

Not a happy looking woman, for sure, but then, her husband did offer her up to contest the Miss Buffalo Chip title. Do you think McCain knows what a buffalo chip is?

And that whole sling thing - someone shook her hand too hard and aggravated her carpel tunnel? Can we get a shout from all the carpel tunnel people out there who have ever had a sling from a handshake? I swear - the shit they make up, it's like they don't even try for believability.

More likely, Cindy has a far worse drug problem than the public knows and it has caused her to have very brittle bones, which could easily be hurt by an over-aggressive hand shake.

Or maybe she pissed John off.

Not a happy looking woman for sure. Maybe it's because of Vicki Iseman or some other yet to be discovered "friend?" By the way what happened to Vicki? Double standard, double mistress, double talk.

brians's picture

I wonder what the McBush's woulda thought if she had been on stage at Buffalo Chip when the "vegetable" portion of the show began?

mudshark's picture

lj @ 61:

roooth @ 54:

mudshark @ 41:

Jo @ 39:
True, But I'll bet she can throw one helluva kegger.

Not a happy looking woman, for sure, but then, her husband did offer her up to contest the Miss Buffalo Chip title. Do you think McCain knows what a buffalo chip is?

And that whole sling thing - someone shook her hand too hard and aggravated her carpel tunnel? Can we get a shout from all the carpel tunnel people out there who have ever had a sling from a handshake? I swear - the shit they make up, it's like they don't even try for believability.

More likely, Cindy has a far worse drug problem than the public knows and it has caused her to have very brittle bones, which could easily be hurt by an over-aggressive hand shake.

Or maybe she pissed John off.

Not a happy looking woman for sure. Maybe it's because of Vicki Iseman or some other yet to be discovered "friend?" By the way what happened to Vicki? Double standard, double mistress, double talk.

Maybe he's got a double long dong? gotta be somethin.

katy's picture

republicans have and ANYTHING and EVERYTHING double standard...
...

i made up some special magnetic bumper stickers - plastered onto the back of my hatchback - for my trip to springfield today TO SEE THE NEXT PRESIDENT AND VICE-PRESIDENT OF THE USA...

i noticed one young kid behind me getting quite a laugh at one that said:

These days there are
2 KINDS OF REPUBLICANS
Millionaires & Suckers

another was anxious to pass, and huffed as he did so...

i also made one, in the style of mcGRAMPYs logo, that said:

------*------
M c S A M E
More LIES - More WAR

that one sits below "War is NOT Pro-life" with a picture of a flag draped coffin...

such fun!

lj's picture

Mudshark:
"Maybe he’s got a double long dong? gotta be somethin"
That's it! That why he crashed all those planes! He couldn't fit in the cockpit! Thanks.

Kathy's picture

Getalife: "How do you fix a broken government John?" Well, start by reinstating the fairness doctrine, de-monopolizing the MEDIA. Unneuter our watchdogs, then Unleash them! Then start upholding the Constitution, especially the first 10 amendments.

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StirFry @ 46:

Jo @ 32:

mudshark @ 12:

Damn! Those two look like wax figurines at Madame (whatever) wax museum. Especially her.
(I can't remember the name of that wax museum)

Madame Tussaud

From the "Chamber of Horrors" in the one in London.

More like the Ice Queen from Narnia

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mudshark @ 56:

It's all been part of political history since the first President.
But McCain is the first one to be a POW. That changes things right there. True,..........I can't say it, I just can't say it. I was going to say he served honorably, but he didn't. plain old did not serve honorably.period. I have members of my family lying in France from both world wars dennis, I have members of my family who rotted in the jungles of Burma and are still there.
When I think about ALL of the people who sacrificed everything, so that we can sit here and openly discuss this, It makes me both very angry and it makes me tear up. McCain signed Anti American propaganda, he capitulated, He collaborated. This is all common knowledge. Hell they even made a frickin movie about it. And when I think of the members of my family who never came back, or ALL of the men and women who never came back. And this guy is trying to play the "War Hero" it both disgusts me and righteously pisses me off. How dare he? And How dare all the lowlife fucking talking heads not question his military record? UGHHHH! I'm sure a Dem would get the same pass as McCain is getting, right?

I understand your frustration, mudshark. Not completely, but better than before. Lousy response, but politics is brutal. I won't go into my thoughts of moral equivalence between Kerry's experience and McCain's, but unfortunately for Kerry, he lost that narrative. McCain may eventually lose his, too. But I suspect the reason McCain is getting somewhat of a free pass on it is because people were so turned off by it with the Swiftboaters. No one from the MSM seems willing to dare go there this go round. Quite possibly because McCain did denounce those men, or at least what they were doing. His argument was that Kerry served, and he served honorably. I think that may at least partially explain why he gets the 'free pass'.

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Karen @ 58:

Plisko @ 55:

Isn't it astounding how McCain has been able to parlay botching a mission and getting captured by the enemy into war hero who endured as a POW for his country? It's Orwellian.

It isn't astounding at all. I bet if you let me write my own story about bad things happening to me I would come out a great hero in the end too. I would admit just enough of my own shortcomings to look honest while glossing over anything that made me look outright incompetent.

It's a perfect scenario of writing your own press.

What astounds me is not that McCain would highlight his positive attributes no matter what. What astounds me is that he has been able to convince people that becoming a POW -- getting caught by the enemy -- means not only that he is a war hero, but one so exceptional that he is qualified thereby to run the country and its wars.

Yea fair enough. This is what happens when we are so hungry for heroes that many people will allow them to be created for them like movie characters. Look what they did with Jessica Lynch and Pat Tillman! The media was just dying for a great narrative so they gave it to them and they would have repeated it to this day if it wasn't proven false.

I think the real problem here is that many people vote from the gut. They want someone to just "feel right" to them. A war hero is something that feels good. A Muslim, or a theatrical black minister is something that feels unfamiliar, maybe even scary. Neither impression may be correct but if they can force it into the zeitgeist, that may be all it takes to create this bewildering phenomenon.

This is something that Republicans have been "gaming" for years now and Democrats seem to still be scratching their heads at.

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dennis @ 68:

mudshark @ 56:

It's all been part of political history since the first President.
But McCain is the first one to be a POW. That changes things right there. True,..........I can't say it, I just can't say it. I was going to say he served honorably, but he didn't. plain old did not serve honorably.period. I have members of my family lying in France from both world wars dennis, I have members of my family who rotted in the jungles of Burma and are still there.
When I think about ALL of the people who sacrificed everything, so that we can sit here and openly discuss this, It makes me both very angry and it makes me tear up. McCain signed Anti American propaganda, he capitulated, He collaborated. This is all common knowledge. Hell they even made a frickin movie about it. And when I think of the members of my family who never came back, or ALL of the men and women who never came back. And this guy is trying to play the "War Hero" it both disgusts me and righteously pisses me off. How dare he? And How dare all the lowlife fucking talking heads not question his military record? UGHHHH! I'm sure a Dem would get the same pass as McCain is getting, right?

I understand your frustration, mudshark. Not completely, but better than before. Lousy response, but politics is brutal. I won't go into my thoughts of moral equivalence between Kerry's experience and McCain's, but unfortunately for Kerry, he lost that narrative. McCain may eventually lose his, too. But I suspect the reason McCain is getting somewhat of a free pass on it is because people were so turned off by it with the Swiftboaters. No one from the MSM seems willing to dare go there this go round. Quite possibly because McCain did denounce those men, or at least what they were doing. His argument was that Kerry served, and he served honorably. I think that may at least partially explain why he gets the 'free pass'.

dennis. Kerry never lost the narrative. He never brought it up until the swifties. Then it was a defense. That being said, The GOP sat quietly by and let the swifties go to work. Now they claim to be in support of our troops. They lied to send them into Iraq. They lied about Kerry, They LIE!!!
I'm sorry dennis, I have to end this discussion now. I'm about to blow a gasket.
The one thing that really gets me is, If it was a Dem who was a POW and ran for the POTUS and who behaved like McCain . well you know what would happen.
Kerry was wrong to not come out a kick those guys in the balls.

masha's picture

but...but...he's a pow!

masha's picture

i know one thing for sure, david gregory will never touch anything remotely that can harm mccain. he seems to be ending any statement of his with a perceived weakness of obama. he did it again this afternoon. he must really want to go back to sedona.

Freddie K's picture

Mccain is not a real man, real men don't depend on sugar mammas.

mudshark's picture

lj @ 65:

Mudshark:
"Maybe he’s got a double long dong? gotta be somethin"
That's it! That why he crashed all those planes! He couldn't fit in the cockpit! Thanks.

Thanks, I needed the laugh. LOL. I could go further with this, but if I do it'll get pretty damn nasty. So I'll just leave it to your imagination.
thanks again. That made me laugh.

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dennis @ 52:

... Until I watched the Ken Burns WWII series on PBS recently, I had no idea just how brutal that battle was and what he must've gone through. But obviously some people do talk. ...

did you notice how many of those men admitted telling the story for the first time?
and the tears?
that was a great show...

my dad was out there on a battleship... his brother on one of those island battles...
he never spoke of it... well, once... he could only get out what it was like to be able to see the pilots of the kamikaze just before plowing into the ships, or water... i've never seen him shudder before... it must've been horrible, is what i deduced, because he couldn't finish the thought...

Albatross's picture

The only problem I see with attacking Cindy McCain as being John's "sugar momma" is that it is clear there is absolutely NO sugar in that woman whatsoever.

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katy @ 75:

dennis @ 52:

... Until I watched the Ken Burns WWII series on PBS recently, I had no idea just how brutal that battle was and what he must've gone through. But obviously some people do talk. ...

did you notice how many of those men admitted telling the story for the first time?
and the tears?
that was a great show...

my dad was out there on a battleship... his brother on one of those island battles...
he never spoke of it... well, once... he could only get out what it was like to be able to see the pilots of the kamikaze just before plowing into the ships, or water... i've never seen him shudder before... it must've been horrible, is what i deduced, because he couldn't finish the thought...

Ask Tyree. He knows.

LibertyLover's picture

Has nothing to do with his POW status. It has EVERYTHING to do with the CORPORATE media and the fact that It's OK if you're a republican.

DD's picture

Dori @ 68:

StirFry @ 46:

Jo @ 32:

mudshark @ 12:

Madame Tussaud

From the "Chamber of Horrors" in the one in London.

More like the Ice Queen from Narnia

She's one really scary lookin' broad. Ice Queen for sure. Also reminds me of the woman that Baron Von Trapp almost marries in the Sound of Music.

Bush Bites's picture

McCain isn't just any gigolo.

He's a Panamanian Gigolo!

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oz's picture

Early in the primaries we kept hearing about McCain not having a dime to run his campaign. He's filthy rich especially his wife, where did he get the money to come back? Did he borrow from himself like Hillary did? The media would get off him as the comeback kid. I think we have been deceived!

carsick's picture

"Do Republicans have a breast implant problem?"

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Saint Augustine @ 82:

[Deleted. Abusive. Please keep it civil. You're a saint, for crying out loud! Thank you. Site Monitor]

Thank you Site Monitor for reminding me of the necessity to remain civil, Forgive me for my posting sins. I must confess that the totality of posts made by the object of my uncivil* comment irks me to no end. Should I apologize to the illogical menace known as Dennis.

*As a frequent poster to this site I have revealed that I was once a sailor in the Navy and a longshoreman, please measure my civility with that in mind, you %V!@) @!*% (please make no assumptions about the meaning of the preceding characters since my keyboard is is screwed up and several keys on the number row don't work as lowercase or uppercase, thus my intent is miscommunicated.

I must also confess that I'm stoned, for what that's worth (really good shit too).

[That's "dennis". There's a "Dennis" who you would probably agree with much more. As for that last sentence: @#$% you! I'm jealous! :D Site Monitor]

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"...Whether McCain wins or loses the presidency, he will still be living like a king.
Works perfect, no? ..."

uhhhh, i think a lot depends on that prenup as far as stuff like defining what "king" means.
it *might* mean something like the king in the burger king ads...ya never know. that Cyndi looks like she could have a "funny" sense of humor.

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Saint Augustine @ 85:

Saint Augustine @ 82:

[Deleted. Abusive. Please keep it civil. You're a saint, for crying out loud! Thank you. Site Monitor]

Thank you Site Monitor for reminding me of the necessity to remain civil, Forgive me for my posting sins. I must confess that the totality of posts made by the object of my uncivil* comment irks me to no end. Should I apologize to the illogical menace known as Dennis.

*As a frequent poster to this site I have revealed that I was once a sailor in the Navy and a longshoreman, please measure my civility with that in mind, you %V!@) @!*% (please make no assumptions about the meaning of the preceding characters since my keyboard is is screwed up and several keys on the number row don't work as lowercase or uppercase, thus my intent is miscommunicated.

I must also confess that I'm stoned, for what that's worth (really good shit too).

[That's "dennis". There's a "Dennis" who you would probably agree with much more. As for that last sentence: @#$% you! I'm jealous! :D Site Monitor]

Please, please, no jealousy, remember what Iago said:
O, beware, my lord, of jealousy;
It is the green-eyed monster which doth mock
The meat it feeds on; that cuckold lives in bliss
Who, certain of his fate, loves not his wronger;

I think envy would be an acceptable feeling.

FYI: I once appeared in a production of Othello with Emmy winner Michael Emerson as Iago.

orcas's picture

Cindy McCain has a billion dollars and a girlish figure hot enough to attract any stud she wants. I wonder why she chose John McCain?

Trittydi's picture

Yes. And if they don't retaliate in kind now - I'll never forgive them for it.
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jane's picture

Seven House McCondo is a MOTHERF#CKING HYPOCRITE of the highest order!

Ruthless People's picture

orcas @ 88:

Cindy McCain has a billion dollars and a girlish figure hot enough to attract any stud she wants. I wonder why she chose John McCain?

The White Witch of Narnia isn't interested in sex. Wealth, power and control is what she gets off on.

oh_please's picture

Saw it somewhere else on the web:

MANSION ACCOMPLISHED

Not a bad bumper sticker!

Bill's picture

Double standards on the Vietnam vet/sugar mommy thing?

You mean you've only just noticed???

Edwin Hussein's picture

It's Malibu Barbie.

researcher's picture

it is the american dream

a young pretty wife with lots of money

he has used his war hero status to perfection

give the guy some credit he is living the american dream

the sad part most americans think they still have a chance to get that dream

even if they live in a trailer and no job

they will line up to vote for this guy

hey they lined up to vote for reagan with his trickle down theory

how did that work out for ya middle class americans?

now you whine and you were the very people to line up and vote for that movie star

gotcha good did he

great acting on his part

noquarter's picture

Now is not the time to show any mercy.

Conservatives have never exhibited any honor in elections. They get what they earn. Nail them to the wall. Fuck them and their bullshit.

Now is not the time for weakness. We can have 3 more activist conservative Alito/Robert/Scalias on the SCOTUS who enforce conservative idealogy. Or we can have 3 more balanced, constitutional-minded progressives/liberals on the court.

No quarter asked, none given. No mercy.

McCain is another silver-spoon, nepotism conservative elitist.

Scarred and abandoned first wife? No quarter.

Tax cuts for the rich? No quarter.

Indefinite occupation of arab nations? No quarter.

Bald-faced lying to the American public? No quarter.

Give them everything they've ever given others. Conservativism cannot hold up under the weight of its own corruption and deception.

Does anyone else think Cindy McCain looks suspiciously like AMY ALKON with a bleach-job?

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When it comes to taking down the GOP, we should have no mercy. They've been allowed to get away with their double standards for far far too long. With them it's "do as I say not as I do". They clearly don't believe the same rules apply to them and theirs. It's time for the Dems to take off the gloves and call them out on anything and everything, expose their deceit and hypocrisy. It's now or never. Republicans believe they are the entitled ones, that it's their God given right to rule the roost. That's why believe that whatever they do to achieve their ends is justified. The fact is that McCain was a philandering playboy that cheated on his crippled wife, and then married a sugar momma to finance his political career. And of course, we're not supposed to question McCain on anything because he was a POW and war hero.

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chicano2nd @ 37:

Chris Matthew just said he believes that asking McCain about his houses was a veiled attempt to play the age card against him by the Democrats. He completely ignores that meddlesome fact that it was Politico.com that asked the question sending McCain into a tailspin. What's worst is he refuses to see it (willful and intentional ignorance?) as addressing who is really out of touch with the average citizen; who really are the elitists (read liars).

And they call the Press Liberal? I really have a problem with Chris Matthews. First it was Fred Thompson with his manly smell - now he's got his nose up McCain's rear. Objective? I don't think so.

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chicano2nd @ 37:

Chris Matthew just said he believes that asking McCain about his houses was a veiled attempt to play the age card against him by the Democrats. He completely ignores that meddlesome fact that it was Politico.com that asked the question sending McCain into a tailspin. What's worst is he refuses to see it (willful and intentional ignorance?) as addressing who is really out of touch with the average citizen; who really are the elitists (read liars).

AS SOON AS the McPain campaign started their 'elitist' rant, the Obama campaign should have hit back with an '8 houses' ad of their own. That McFeign's wealth has only now arisen as an issue, and not initially sparked by Obama's campaign, is representative of their most FRUSTRATING characteristic; their insistence upon trying to remain above the manure put forth by McLame & Co. by not considering it worthy of addressing, while it has its effect on the masses of the weak-minded. I sincerely hope Biden's inclusion is indicative of the recognition of the need to bite back quick, and hard.

John W's picture

"Double Standard" is Latin for Republican Party.

Barrett D's picture

i realize the hypocrisy from the right on this. but is such a topic really a qualifier for someone to be fit for president? do you REALLY think mccains divorce and prenupt are important, or just the hypocrisy is important

trankhussein's picture

the talk radio monopoly coordinated nationwide uncontested repetition is great for enabling the denial and hypocrisy. limbaugh in particular is a genius at laying out a smorgasbord of excuses and rationalizations the lazy media talking heads and tens of millions of listeners can pick and choose from. the republicans are no longer capable of feeling hypocrisy.

ashabot's picture

Cindy McCain wants to buy the White House for Johnny because she wants to live there, doncha know? It would be the crowning jewel of her domestic empire. Oh the parties! She'd show everyone. Beer maid, indeed.

mark's picture

If McCain were a Democrat, the Republicans would be smearing his fighter pilot abilities (only an incompetent gets shot down) and digging up someone to shoot holes in his POW narrative (he was really a coward, not so tough, etc.). And they'd get away with it.

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Jumpshark's picture

Cindy McCain is rich. She kept all her father's inheritance for herself and didn't share it with her two half-sisters. Neither she nor her husband insisted on playing fair with her half-sisters. What a great gal!

Heraclitus's picture

"It’s only fair to accuse non-POWs of mooching off their rich wives."

If McCain didn't crash as many planes as he did, he wouldn't have been captured in the first place. Leave it to the GOP to take sub-par performance and exploit it rather than hide it.

ysbaddaden's picture

mcc**t there looks like her all growed-up:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41XPD5W8DDL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

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Ruthless People @ 91:

orcas @ 88:

Cindy McCain has a billion dollars and a girlish figure hot enough to attract any stud she wants. I wonder why she chose John McCain?

The White Witch of Narnia isn't interested in sex. Wealth, power and control is what she gets off on.

Don't forget Gerardo her pool boy.

carefulwiththatAXEeugene's picture

the republicans are the epitome of double standard.

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