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Oh geez, the christianist group American Family Association has their panties in a twist about Hallmark Cards and their new line of Gay Marriage Greeting Cards.

I have to agree with AFA on one point: "Hallmark is a private company obviously driven by greed." Duh. Hallmark is not selling a lifestyle, they're selling product. These cards sell because people in love with each other are getting married!

But would the greedy wingnuts at American Family Association, whose website accepts donations in all kinds of plastic, turn down a "generous contribution" made with the Rainbow Visa Card? I think not.

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numfar's picture

Folks over at Fark used AFA's website to send well wishes to Hallmark, as opposed to the hate mail AFA wanted sent.

I was rolling when I saw that.

constituent's picture

individualism on our terms! the(R) motto

Chicken Hussein Little - NOT!!'s picture

Wow, imagine that, a for-profit-company willing to do anything to make money. Sure am glad those benevolent, caring, socially aware and concerned oil companies are above that sort of behavior. Boy could we be in trouble if they stooped to such churlish behavior.

Brad's picture

Would these folk be seeking the power to screen all our texts and images for "errors," to "protect" us? They would replace our thought with their `borg'-ish own.

Jacki's picture

Good to see that AFA knows what Jesus and God will do about Gays. Now Mark Foley is good to get in heaven he's only a child molester. No wonder the GOP and some Dems are committing sin so openly now and even stealing and killing. Word is God and Jesus will excuse that action but not if your gay.

Fred's picture

here's the link for you to send well wishes to Hallmark through AFS

https://secure.afa.net/afa/activism/TakeAction.asp?id=329

fill in your own message!

Toki Wartooth's picture

Down here in San Diego we have a nice reversal. Doug Manchester, owner of the Manchester Hyatt on San Diego Bay came out publicly against gay marriage to his own detriment. So far, the hotel has lost two large conventions. There's so much new business there, get over it wingnuts.....

Albatross's picture

Time to Coybott Hallmark!

Don't need a Gay Marriage card?

Buy a couple anyway!

miss_kitty's picture

American Family Association boycotts Hallmark for Gay Marriage Greeting Cards

How Christ-y of them.

WWJH, AFA? Oh that's right. You've decided. Jesus would hate queers. If he was one of your members. BUT HE"S NOT. Fuck Off, Oh Holier-than-thou ones

Jeon Ji-Yung's picture

It'll be a cold day in hell before I enter my personal information into a website run by the AFA.

spickle's picture

LOL ...... i see flames and pitch forks quick the villagers are coming!

Must have been a slow week for the AFA bitching dept. To have to turn on Hallmark is pretty damned lame.

What about Halloween cards? Do they figure those encourage people to become carved pumpkins and skeletons?

Fred's picture

or... you could just enter a fake name and info... I hear that works in the Intarweb...

john j's picture

Geez,
It's just a f*cking card, no one is forcing you to buy it!

America is just weird. protest much?
How the hell does Katey Perry - I Kissed A Girl stay #1 for weeks in this country.

David Ehrenstein's picture

JESUS WAS GAY

me's picture

Hallmark is a private company obviously driven by greed.

Seems to me that that describes AFA pretty well.

Gus's picture

Yes, a business being driven by greed in this country is just wrong...except when it isn't.

Leadership's picture

Generally speaking, gay people don't reproduce, so I like them. It's the world full of IDIOT heterosexuals, packing this planet

full with selfish and stupid offspring, that piss me off. People without jobs, people without food, people without a future having

babies, that's what we need.

ysbaddaden's picture

Well, Jesus did travel with 12 other dudes

All single...

Move on People, Nothing to see here.

L.A. Confidential's picture

Didn't know that. Probably wouldn't or even be affected if it wasn't for the Media.

Brad's picture

Jeon Ji-Yung @ 10:

It'll be a cold day in hell before I enter my personal information into a website run by the AFA.

I just used the Hallmark chairman's email they provided on their page instead.

JoeSixPack's picture

Thank God they haven't found the line of get well cards for devil-worshipping welfare moms on crack. Now those are offensive.

Hey, nitwits! It's mother effin' Hallmark greeting cards. You're just now figuring out they're gay??!! I think we should boycott them for having the world's slowest gaydar.

From what I remember learning in Sunday School, Jesus would kick AFA's ass out of the church for turning the church into a money making operation.

KingCranky's picture

Well, if the AFA is so determined to stop what Hallmark's doing, then let the AFA BUY those cards, as opposed to hypocritically whining about the "free market" system the AFA supports in all other cases-except when that "free market" system sees a buck to be made from the wallets of gay consumers.

Really, why is it God wants no financial sacrifices from those who claim to act on The Lord's behalf when it comes to anti-gay and anti-choice fueled boycotts?

I mean, if the AFA's boycott of Hallmark is SO righteous in God's eyes, then surely God will provide for the AFA knuckle-draggers so they don't go broke doing what they consider right, in this case buying cards as opposed to expecting Hallmark to give up a successful financial stream and market at no cost to the AFA.

So come on, AFA, BUY those cards, don't be expecting a free ride from a profit-driven corporation solely so you religious extremists and radicals can "harrumph" in satisfaction.

Something tells me Hallmark executives probably aren't losing much, if any, sleep over a bunch of repulsive fossils angry that their homophobia is speeding towards it's rightful, proper place, on History's rubbish heap.

Joe Schmo's picture

AFA hypocrites!

L.A. Confidential's picture

I think we'll be fine for a few more decades if we can steal enough oil and keep printing enough fiat currency to keep the public fooled.

oZer's picture

oh kee-riiiist ~ not THIS again!!!
I attended the most wonderful same-sex wedding over the weekend.
a lovely couple that will make a difference for the better in their community.
unfortunately, this issue will take time to correct itself.
I believe that the next generation of leaders to come along will see it pragmatically: let adults make adult decisions on their own (w/o govt).
in the meantime, let's keep our voices out there and enjoy the farcical outrage from the right.

Tyler Durden's picture

Isn't using the name of Jesus to further your interests, in this case protect whatever is your very own definition of marriage, akin to taking the name of the lord in vain?

Liberal AND Proud's picture

Note to AFA.

STFU. Oh, and if any of your minions or preachers are found fornicating out of wedlock, or fondling little boys, I expect that a public flogging and burning at the stake would be in order. None of this wimpy "forgiveness" stuff.

ysbaddaden's picture

What the hell is FARK?

Is that the sound a gay dog makes instead of bark?

Jack Damage's picture

I'm with John j@14; What a retarded 'issue'.... Hallmark sells all kinds of cards. It's their bid-ness... The sentiment may be phony pablum, but geezluise... Like the guy said... It's just crappy feel good cards to make money...apparently off the gay community this time.. Gaawd... Get a clue much AFA?? Can you AFA pha-reaks find some other podunk pointless straw pony issue to get all bent out of shape over??? Jus wonderin...I'm sure the answer is yes......JD

Darth_Romney's picture

I don't know any gay couples getting married, but I'm going to buy a bunch of those cards anyway! That AFA is a whiney bunch of crazy assholes! Too bad more of them weren't losing their homes or paying $5.00 a gallon gas, so they'd no what REAL issues are!

Yellow Elephant Safari's picture

This just in. AFA calls for members to boycott Yoplait Yogurt. Claims flavors are "too fruity".

Next targets: Kellogg's Froot Loops and all brands of Homo-genized milk.

There are at least two gay weddings I would like to go to and see four of my friends have the same rights that my husband and I do, but sadly I don't think I'm going to see it happen here in Fla.

What are the people of AFA afraid of? Is it just that if they weren't bitching and moaning about something, no one would know they were there or pay any attention to them?

mrsisk's picture

Hallmark has gay marriage greeting cards!? WOW!!! I've never liked guys before, but this might just be the moment for me to switch over and get me some hot gayness, 'cause I LOVES me some Hallmark! I'll take a slice of that lifestyled...Yes please!

JudyLou's picture

pissed off patricia @ 34:

There are at least two gay weddings I would like to go to and see four of my friends have the same rights that my husband and I do, but sadly I don't think I'm going to see it happen here in Fla.

What are the people of AFA afraid of? Is it just that if they weren't bitching and moaning about something, no one would know they were there or pay any attention to them?

They're afraid "people NOT like themselves" will get a little power, and they'll lose power. Support of traditional marriage is support of keeping men in power.

dadams's picture

Joe Schmo @ 25:

AFA hypocrites!

you are so right!!

these assholes forgot to read the Constitution
we are all suppose to have the same rights...
that is unless you are a member of the
afa reichwingneocons...they believe they
are the only answer to life, liberty and the pusuit
of happiness when followed just their way.
FUCK THE AFA...

MountainMan23's picture

(1) HallMark Cards was founded selling pre-messaged cards to people who were too lazy to write their own Mothers on Mothers Day.

(2) The Evangelicals have a real problem. Their "faith" states that ANYONE who "takes Jesus as their Savior" is SAVED. Lie, steal, cheat, murder, commit any kind of sex act -- and you STILL go to HEAVEN. (Even if you are gay, lesbian, trannie.) Hmmm ..

Erik's picture

ysbaddaden @ 30:

What the hell is FARK?

Is that the sound a gay dog makes instead of bark?

fark.com

John F A's picture

What's the big deal? Hallmark has been gay friendly for years.---SOMEBODY must be buying those Wizard of Oz Xmas ornaments.

Darth_Romney's picture

Well, look where AFA is based...Tupelo, MS!!! Ever been there? It's the ass-crack of civilization! You can't find more than 3 people in the area not related to one another somehow!

General Jack D. Ripper's picture

I just went to their website for the very first time. They're boycotting McDonald's because McDonald's supports a gay pride parade.

These people are total tools. God, why is there such intolerance in this world??? I quickly lose my faith in humanity when I continue hearing crap like this.

Google_Meister's picture

I cannot wait for the day NO ONE returns an AFA phone call, fax, email, or paid advertisement. It simply amazes me an organization of such limited, radical, views gets so much attention! When they call and have a child like, immature, non professional hissy fit, 'just say' F*CK OFF' !

motorfingaz's picture

General Jack D. Ripper @ 42:

I just went to their website for the very first time. They're boycotting McDonald's because McDonald's supports a gay pride parade.

These people are total tools. God, why is there such intolerance in this world??? I quickly lose my faith in humanity when I continue hearing crap like this.

Its because conservatives are a threat to the American constitution, military, economy and freedom.

I think it will take about 4 more yrs of the Republican Crime Syndicate in the White House and congress for it to sink in!

Susie's picture

Fred @ 6:

here's the link for you to send well wishes to Hallmark through AFS

https://secure.afa.net/afa/activism/TakeAction.asp?id=329

fill in your own message!

I tried to use their form but it wouldn't go through but I sent a direct message anyway.

dadams's picture

pissed off patricia @ 34:

There are at least two gay weddings I would like to go to and see four of my friends have the same rights that my husband and I do, but sadly I don't think I'm going to see it happen here in Fla.

What are the people of AFA afraid of? Is it just that if they weren't bitching and moaning about something, no one would know they were there or pay any attention to them?

the afa are afraid that their leaders men will find
themselves doing just what they claim to be against.
if you were to go to some of the private gay sex clubs for
men, you will find that a large number of the members
are so called "straight/married" men.
i swear the afa would stone jesus if he came back
for wearing a caftan/dress.

General Jack D. Ripper's picture

motorfingaz @ 44:

General Jack D. Ripper @ 42:

I just went to their website for the very first time. They're boycotting McDonald's because McDonald's supports a gay pride parade.

These people are total tools. God, why is there such intolerance in this world??? I quickly lose my faith in humanity when I continue hearing crap like this.

Its because conservatives are a threat to the American constitution, military, economy and freedom.

I think it will take about 4 more yrs of the Republican Crime Syndicate in the White House and congress for it to sink in!

Unfortunately, in 4 more years, it will be too late. Don't you know that the world will end in 4 years?

Trittydi's picture

David Ehrenstein @ 15:

JESUS WAS GAY

I always suspected . . . .
*

Trittydi's picture

ysbaddaden @ 19:

Well, Jesus did travel with 12 other dudes

All single...

Move on People, Nothing to see here.

Or was Jesus one of 13 dudes following Mary Magdalene?
*

JasonS's picture

"Hallmark is a private company obviously driven by greed."

I thought you conservatives approved of that sort of thing. Shouldn't gay rights be like any other issue? Shouldn't we let the free market decide?

Why do you hate freedom?

Google_Meister's picture

Trittydi @ 48:

David Ehrenstein @ 15:

JESUS WAS GAY

I always suspected . . . .
*

Yes, it does take a measure of worldliness to get the connections,
Anyone who has traveled overseas can tell you what
Sexual opportunities there are for pretty white boys
in a darker skinned machismo culture, LOL! Simple Psychology.
Simple Sexuality. Simple Humanity.

Liberal AND Proud's picture

Erik @ 39:

ysbaddaden @ 30:

What the hell is FARK?

Is that the sound a gay dog makes instead of bark?

fark.com

It's what an AFA heterosexual dog calls a homosexual dog.

Sorry...couldn't resist.

Liberal AND Proud's picture

Trittydi @ 49:

ysbaddaden @ 19:

Well, Jesus did travel with 12 other dudes

All single...

Move on People, Nothing to see here.

Or was Jesus one of 13 dudes following Mary Magdalene?
*

No NO...I MUST...fight...urge...to..make...snaaaarky...commment!!!

General Jack D. Ripper's picture

JasonS @ 50:

"Hallmark is a private company obviously driven by greed."

I thought you conservatives approved of that sort of thing. Shouldn't gay rights be like any other issue? Shouldn't we let the free market decide?

Why do you hate freedom?

Oh, but they don't hate freedom. You are so wrong. Gay people are just like those nasty islamofascist terrorists who are a threat to our freedom. We must stifle their proliferation, and one day, we need to start throwing them into jails like we did to those islamofascists in Guantanamo. Those gay people are really scary and such a danger to our WASP society!

Thrillhouse's picture

pissed off patricia @ 12:

Must have been a slow week for the AFA bitching dept. To have to turn on Hallmark is pretty damned lame.

What about Halloween cards? Do they figure those encourage people to become carved pumpkins and skeletons?

No, I'm guessing they believe Halloween cards promote witchcraft and devil-worship.

Native Texan's picture

Here's what I sent on the AFS website:

Dear Chairman Hall:

I am surprised that Hallmark is promoting an 21st century lifestyle. There was a time Hallmark told us to send the very best. I am pleased to see you have continued that tradition and have decided to be inclusive to all. No more American Greeting Cards foe me until they make the same progressive move.

When I saw that personal info was mandatory, I signed it as Sanctimonius Prick.
I also checked the box saying I was a preacher dude.

bmw 528's picture

This is the same gang of Luddite retards and dopes that redacted Tyson Gay's name to Tyson Homosexual every time it appeared in a news article on their website. Pretty tough to take an organization seriously when they do shit like that.

JasonS's picture

General Jack D. Ripper @ 54:

JasonS @ 50:

"Hallmark is a private company obviously driven by greed."

I thought you conservatives approved of that sort of thing. Shouldn't gay rights be like any other issue? Shouldn't we let the free market decide?

Why do you hate freedom?

Oh, but they don't hate freedom. You are so wrong. Gay people are just like those nasty islamofascist terrorists who are a threat to our freedom. We must stifle their proliferation, and one day, we need to start throwing them into jails like we did to those islamofascists in Guantanamo. Those gay people are really scary and such a danger to our WASP society!

Hmmm, but shouldn't we let the free market decide between islamofascism and WASP society?

freepatriot's picture

HallMark

for when you're not too homophobic to send the very best

ysbaddaden's picture

53 Liberal AND Proud Says: Trittydi @ 49:

ysbaddaden @ 19:

Well, Jesus did travel with 12 other dudes

All single…

Move on People, Nothing to see here.

Or was Jesus one of 13 dudes following Mary Magdalene?
*

No NO…I MUST…fight…urge…to..make…snaaaarky…commment!!!
______________________________________________________________

Maybe Mary was a fag hag.

That way she always had someone who'd notice a new outfit or do her hair.

elysse's picture

Fred @ 13:

or... you could just enter a fake name and info... I hear that works in the Intarweb...

that's what i did.

Brian's picture

Whatever they are against, I am for. Jesus would be so proud of them.

Fanon's picture

Trittydi @ 49:

ysbaddaden @ 19:

Well, Jesus did travel with 12 other dudes

All single...

Move on People, Nothing to see here.

Or was Jesus one of 13 dudes following Mary Magdalene?
*

Or, was Mary Magdalene a transgender?

Fanon's picture

Trittydi @ 49:

ysbaddaden @ 19:

Well, Jesus did travel with 12 other dudes

All single...

Move on People, Nothing to see here.

Or was Jesus one of 13 dudes following Mary Magdalene?
*

Or, was Mary Magdalene a transgender?

Fanon's picture

Ok, I give. It won't take my comment?

Fanon's picture

Oops, there they are!

Mark Glass's picture

It's okay for Islam to get offended and peacefully reproach those that offend religious figures, that but not for these Christian groups?

If being liberal/left-wing means I have to be a non-sequitorial, self-important, obtuse bastard, where double standards exist out the ying-yang simply because political correctness is in vogue as opposed to an actual fundamental belief system that one believes ought to apply to everyone, then count me out.

General Jack D. Ripper's picture

JasonS @ 58:

General Jack D. Ripper @ 54:

JasonS @ 50:

"Hallmark is a private company obviously driven by greed."

I thought you conservatives approved of that sort of thing. Shouldn't gay rights be like any other issue? Shouldn't we let the free market decide?

Why do you hate freedom?

Oh, but they don't hate freedom. You are so wrong. Gay people are just like those nasty islamofascist terrorists who are a threat to our freedom. We must stifle their proliferation, and one day, we need to start throwing them into jails like we did to those islamofascists in Guantanamo. Those gay people are really scary and such a danger to our WASP society!

Hmmm, but shouldn't we let the free market decide between islamofascism and WASP society?

NO, damnit! Islamofascists are just as evil as gay people are. So start the wiretaps already on anyone you suspect is gay, and then send them to Gitmo for 5 years!

Oh, the insannity of right wing conservative religious kooks. I really just do not understand anything they do or say. As I've mentioned before, I am truly beginning to believe that there is some common mutant gene in them, a gene which must be triggered by listening to Limbaugh or Hannity.

Mark Glass's picture

Be careful crooksandliars.com,

Be free, be liberal, be democratic, but for god's sakes don't catch "The Dumb."

Don't get offended on behalf of others when the offense isn't your's to presume.

[Wha? Who are you to say it isn't up to us to be offended? We are offended by the attempt of a few bigots to undermine the civil and human rights of others-Sitemonitor]

Fair Witness's picture

Reminds me of a Song by the Austin Lounge Lizards...:

Jesus Loves me but he Can't Stand You
I know you smoke, I know you drink that brew
I just can't abide a sinner like you
God can't either, that's why I know it to be true that
Jesus loves me--but he can't stand you

I'm going to heaven, boys, when I die
'Cause I've crossed every "t" and I've dotted every "i'
My preacher tell me that I'm God's kind of guy; that's why
Jesus loves me--but you're gonna fry

God loves all his children, by gum
That don't mean he won't incinerate some
Can't you feel those hot flames licking you
Woo woo woo

I'm raising my kids in a righteous way
So don't be sending your kids over to my house to play
Yours'll grow up stoned, left-leaning, and gay; I know
Jesus told me on the phone today

Jesus loves me, this I know
And he told me where you're gonna go
There's lots of room for your kind down below
Whoa whoa whoa

Jesus loves me but he can't stand you . . .

QuakerDave's picture

That's it: it'll be Hallmark from now on for me.

anonanon's picture

The Hall family members are Republican donors/supporters.

Don Hall
Adele Hall
Don Hall, Jr.
etc.

JohnnyThief's picture

Trittydi @ 48:

David Ehrenstein @ 15:

JESUS WAS GAY

I always suspected . . . .
*

You know, that's not even it. The card isn't meant to be gay at all, it's just a common joke that's thrown around everywhere.

What I don't get is how many people today in America went hungry, are lying homeless in the elements, how many prisoners in jail didn't get any visitors, how many single moms & widows are alone, how many of the sick need care, all the while this giant 'christian' lobby spends all this time & money railing against a piece of printed paper.

gremlin's picture

Fred @ 6:

here's the link for you to send well wishes to Hallmark through AFS

https://secure.afa.net/afa/activism/TakeAction.asp?id=329

fill in your own message!

Great idea! Unfortunately, I keep getting an error message when I try to send it. Perhaps my personal info is on an AFA heathen watch list of some sort :)

John J's picture

Are they protesting Harry Potter since Dumbledore is gay?

Always knew he was after Harry's wand.

General Jack D. Ripper's picture

Is anyone else seeing problems with this site lately? Just now is another example of a problem I have seen.

I went into look at the 75 comments the post says it has, but when I get to the comment section, it says "Sorry There Are No Comments Yet Posted," and, indeed, none are shown. I do know for a fact that there were comments just an hour ago.

General Jack D. Ripper's picture

General Jack D. Ripper @ 76:

Is anyone else seeing problems with this site lately? Just now is another example of a problem I have seen.

I went into look at the 75 comments the post says it has, but when I get to the comment section, it says "Sorry There Are No Comments Yet Posted," and, indeed, none are shown. I do know for a fact that there were comments just an hour ago.

Actually, after I just submitted the above, the comments came back. I've seen other problems this past weekend. Strange.

Marilyn's picture

Sunday, I used the link on their page to send this message as opposed to the one that prefills:

Dear Chairman Hall:

I am surprised that Hallmark didn't include Gay Marriage cards sooner. There was a time Hallmark told us to send the very best, and now they mean it. Great to see you have taken a giant step up. I will always make sure I buy Hallmark!

Thank you AFA for allowing me to use your site to send wonderful letters to people who deserve it!

Gretchen the aspiring elitist's picture

I had seen an article on another blog about Hallmark's decision and my post there was "... And the AFA will call for a Hallmark boycott in 3, 2, 1...."

That was last Wednesday. I score 100% on the predictions scale. And my boycott of Hallmark is starting in 3,2,1....

Gretchen the aspiring elitist's picture

Gretchen the aspiring elitist @ 79:

I had seen an article on another blog about Hallmark's decision and my post there was "... And the AFA will call for a Hallmark boycott in 3, 2, 1...."

That was last Wednesday. I score 100% on the predictions scale. And my boycott of Hallmark is starting in 3,2,1....

Oops, shouldn't post without reading after a hard day at work and a couple of strong drinks! My boycott of Hallmark if they cave on this will start in 3, 2, 1..... I already have nothing to do with the group of self-righteous thugs who call themselves the AFA.

Just wanted to clear that up before the shitstorm started. I've been in enough of that today to last a lifetime!

Pat's picture

You know what's behind all of this?
These closet queers like Wildmon want anal bad and their beard wives won't give it up, or won't give it up enough to satisfy their desires, so what they are left with is jealousy of those who have no hang-ups or shame getting what they want.

zak's picture

That has prompted many many Yahoo gay groups to get their members to respond to Hallmark, congratulating them on their initiative. That is tens of thousands of members, worldwide. A great response to those self rightous fools in the AFA. It doesnt take much to get the gay community together and into action these days.

Paul's picture

David Ehrenstein @ 15:

JESUS WAS GAY

How Ignorant of you!

Mark Glass's picture

Mark Glass @ 69:

Be careful crooksandliars.com,

Be free, be liberal, be democratic, but for god's sakes don't catch "The Dumb."

Don't get offended on behalf of others when the offense isn't your's to presume.

[Wha? Who are you to say it isn't up to us to be offended? We are offended by the attempt of a few bigots to undermine the civil and human rights of others-Sitemonitor]

And what is the official position of this site, then, of people - be they cartoonists and what have you - who use Muhammad in jokes?

Are they to be tolerated by free speech? Or is due respect to be shown to figureheads in whom those who have sincere religious beliefs may be offended thereof? Both are, oddly enough, polarized right-wing perspectives. I'm calling the site out on what they believe? Let's hear it! :)

Mark Glass's picture

My beliefs, by the way, are in total support of free speech. That being said, I find it in poor taste to take what others hold dear and use it as a means to an end - that of humour - when it costs me nothing to find other things in this content-filled world.

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