McCain's Panic Button
By Steve Hynd Friday Aug 29, 2008 8:30am
Kyle Moore at Comments From Left Field writes:
Whether Palin was a good pick or not is not exactly relevant. What is relevant is the nature of John McCain’s decision making in this instance.
Let that simmer with you for a moment. At the first sign of trouble, McCain abandoned his game plan and went instead with a high risk maneuver that thus far seems to have some pay off, but is coming with a high cost.
What does that say about how he’ll behave in the realm of foreign policy? Will he abandon any semblance of a safe and tested plan in favor of a high risk move that will put us and our families in danger? What about terrorism? In a McCain administration, I think that this indicates that instead of pursuing a smart and tough anti-terrorism policy, he would engage in a reckless and reactionary response that would only make us less safe and likely put us in another war.
We can discuss the lack of qualifications for Sarah Palin, and there are plenty, but the biggest problem is that it indicates that John McCain’s temperament and judgment is far below the standards necessary to serve in the Oval Office.
Kyle's one of the smartest unsung observers of U.S. politics in the blogosphere and he's hit a nerve for McCain here. Once the initial rush of stories about Palin subsides, people will be left wondering why McCain tapped her.
Even some of her own Alaskan Republican colleagues admit she's not ready for the Veep slot.
State Senate President Lyda Green said she thought it was a joke when someone called her at 6 a.m. to tell her the news.
"She's not prepared to be governor. How can she be prepared to be vice president or president? said Green, a Republican from Palin's hometown of Wasilla. "Look at what she's done to this state. What would she do to the nation?"
It seems to have been one or all of three: 1) a vain attempt to convince Hillary supporters that the should think with their vaginas in the same way men like McCain think with their penises, 2) to shore up McCain's standing with the abortion/hangin'/guns loving and science/polar bear cub hating base, 3) an act of supreme desperation brought on by the Democratic Convention.
None of those possibilities will especially inspire confidence in him as President. But unless McCain comes right out and admit which it was then Americans have to think that, when the going gets tough, McCain will once again pull one of the flakies he's infamous for. Does anyone want to vote for a man who - when facing down Putin, Ahmadinejad or Bin Laden - is likely to just roll the dice and pull a judgment call of Palin quality out of the bag?
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Palineosaurus! Wingnut from the dark ages.
He knows that the Oct. surprise is on they way, and martial law is coming.
btw. ..1st
McCain Only Met Palin Once...
but... but... she was the beauty queen of... Wasilla and her husband is an
engineer for an oil company... no, he's a fisherman... no, he's an oil field
worker,,, no, he's a stay at home kept man, no... he spends his day
harrassing the cops.
When they start lying, there's a something lurking in the basement.
What does Sarah Palin think about sexism and cancer survivor Lyda Green (who you quote above)?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKkydrUnBZE
Take a listen, seems she likes to stick up for women being called a bitch just as much as McCain does
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6Nt5ADY7ug
This is no Hillary Clinton--more like Wilma Flintstone!
And, within this, is the spectacle of all the 'repiglican's' lining up like cow's at a feeding trough proclaiming what a great choice she is ....... yes, this is what our once great country needs one heartbeat away from being president .. and the cable repgilican pundit/ pimps are trying to gussy up this desperate fucking mistake ... these repgilican freaks should simply go find another country for there numbing stupidity .. they have already done enough destruction to our once great country called america ..
You should check out todays episodes of Daily show and Colbert Report - they had something little to say about this McCain's choice - maybe you could even a provide a link to that later on your blog. I especially liked the segment with Samantha Bee - it was hilarious and so truth.
Aw Cernig how can you criticize this?
http://api.ning.com/files/x19830JkrtOmOKAxjiCoPEBlVVC0AJxwPmGhLYTzDFXP99...
Hey I found it on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzcTTzzAHG0
check it out
Really this (pick of VP) tells you a lot about McCain - political pandering at its worst.
BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA POW!
Yesterday I thought the Palin choice was a joke.
I had a night to sleep on it. Today, after reflection, I can say that it is worse than I thought.
curtilingus @ 8:
I've created a tinyurl of your link... http://tinyurl.com/6dmteq
Well, she is definitely a hot milf gov!
“Miss Palin, I serve with Hillary Clinton: I know Hillary Clinton; Hillary Clinton is a friend of mine. Miss, you’re no Hillary Clinton.”
-- Joe Biden, October 2, 2008
And also my last comment - there is a great potentional in this for hilarious upcoming episodes of Colbert Report. I think that Stephen could make something out of his fear of Bears and with the past actions and current hobbies of Palin regarding Bears.
Something like "United we stand against the Bear threat Colbert/Palin"
Can O' Whoopass @ 3:
The sick feeling in the pit of my stomach is that with red flags of warning flying high on George Bush it did not take the Supreme Court to get him in the second time around. An unthinking American electorate did and within 6 months were sorry.
It will take the younger generation voting in large numbers to put Barack Obama in the Whitehouse and I hope they do....
McCain should quit worrying about drawing support from Hillary Clinton supporters. How will Palin help him with disgruntled evangelical supporters of Mike Huckabee, Ron Paul, etc. I know McCain is trying to pander his way to the White House, but it seems like he's pandering to the wrong crowd.
Sarah Palin = Dan Quayle with breasts
How can you guys say this pick is a joke when she has the same qualifications as BO?
Palin is the gov. of a state with about 670,000 people in it. the Twin Cities, has 4.5 times that many (about 3,000,000) people in it. she dosent have the experience to govern Minnesota let alone the entire U.S of A. I have no idea what repugs are thinking. I hear she is doing a great job in Alaska, But....
My daughter JUST started driving, she is doing a great job, but that doesnt mean i'm ready to give her the keys to the family car anytime soon.
.... maybe when she gets alittle more time behind the wheel.
Sorry link didn't work. Don't know why but it is a knock out photo, very racy to some people, of the new VPilf wearing a very short leather skirt drinking a glass of Burgundy.
And here is Jerry Bower lauding her benefits:
"Also forget the nonsense about women and abortion. Women are by and large a more pro-life demographic than men. In fact the most pro-choice group is young, single men (gee, I wonder why?). Who better to make this case than Sarah Palin who just brought Trig into the world this past April, her beautiful little Down’s Syndrome boy."
http://www.cnbc.com/id/26456024
Her down's syndrome son edited her wikipedia entry several times moments before her veep anouncement.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/29/21034/4861/159/579549
I saw a picture of her family. Didn't see anyone with down's syndrome.
What gives?
The only good thing I can say about Palin is she put her kid (not sure which kid I think is was either Trinkle or Tinkle) where her mouth was on the Iraq war. Which is more than can be said for the chickenhawk cowards who started the war.
Alice X - (Chomsky Nader) - status quObama - change you can pretend in - @ 11:
I was going to say the exact same thing. It's truly about his judgement. "Country first." ? It's more like "Republicans first." .
I am sickened. They're going to steal the Whitehouse for the ex-flyboy nitwit who bombed his own carrier and the corrupt ex-"beauty queen" who is currently under investigation by her own party at the state level. Whether by election fraud or martial law - we're toast.
blue dog @ 16:
Because 18,000,000 people thought Barack Obama would make a good president. John McCain and his cronies decided she would.
I'm just waiting for the "She's my choice because I was a prisoner of war" card to come into play.
I'm sure McCain is putting her on the ticket for show and doesn't give a damn about her qualifications because he doesn't anticipate becoming disabled, dying, or using her for anything important. He'll make her a do-nothing Veep (so she doesn't have to be qualified), and he may or may not use her as Bush used Condoleeza Rice, who was also not qualified for the positions she's filled.
I think this is definitely an appeal to the vagina crowd, and he hasn't thought beyond becoming elected and that she'd be president when he kicks the bucket or is overwhelmed by Alzheimer's, which I think he's on the edge of anyway.
This is the worst aspect imaginable of affirmative action for women -- put somebody absolutely unqualified in a high-ranking and visible position and let the world watch her stumble and fall on her face, thus confirming that women just cannot play in the big-boy league.
It only gets weirder. McCain's pick is more proof that wingnuts live in an alternate reality where nothing makes sense.
curtilingus @ 18:
Bowler looks like someone Chris Hansen would be talking to in a kitchen.
Palin is an unbelievably reckless choice. Talk about a security risk! If John John wins then bites it, this end-of-timer will be at the helm. What a nightmare scenario!
McShame & Palin - Doomed!
This provides confirmation and irrefutable evidence that Johnny "the flake" McSame listens to his breakfast cereal each morning for advice - his Rice Krispies - and pulls out either Snap, Crackle, or Pop.
How dare him suggest that our national security be so jeopardized when we know his chances for survival and the probability that control would be in the hands of a mother of 5 screamers tugging at her apron strings, no national security knowledge, no military training, no financial background, and definitely incapable of holding a more expansive "world view". This is tantamount to treason if you ask me.
blue dog @ 16:
(from SouthTxMan in another post)
Obama
BA-Colombia University 1983
1983 Business International Corp.
1984-1987 New York Public Interest Group
1985-1988 Director of Developing Comm. Project
1991 Graduated from Harvard Magna Cum Laude - President Harvard Law Review
1992-1996 Lecturer Constitutional Law
1996-2004 Senior Lecturer Constitutional Law
1993-2004-Attorney-law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development
1997-2004 Illinois State Legislator
2004-Current Illinois Senator
Palin
Education-BA degree from Idaho
After serving in the PTA, she was inspired to run for office.
1992-1996 Wasilla City Council population 8000+
1996-2002 Mayor of Wasilla
2002-Unsuccessful bid for Lieutenant Governor
2003-2004 Ethics Commissioner of Alaska Oil Gas Conservation Commission
Resigned in 2004
2006-Current (16 months) Governor of Alaska (total population 600,000. Only 1 city with over 100,000 people)
States with more population than Alaska: Delaware, Maine, Montana.
She looks like a joke to me. I know folks in Austin, Texas that have more experience than her.
You're right. It is a panic moment. But it also is once again an example of the disdain that the Republicans have for their fellow Americans. Read More. http://www.tagg-lines.com/2008/08/politics-trumps-policy-every-time.html
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.patriciaebauer.com/wp-...
OK I found a picture of Palin's new born son.
The good news is he was a newborn and the phamily photo I saw was old.
The bad news is he's a newborn and should not have been editing his mom's wikipedia entry.
McCain is insane, clearly has poor judgement, and is totally unprincipled. What more proof do people need???? It's now official that he can't say he puts America first.
Spicegal @ 32:
But she's hot spicegal. Don't you ever watch American Idol?
What do you think we liver for?
StirFry @ 20:
Your darn right it's worse than we all thought yesterday. She's embroiled in corrupt scandals of her own right now for openers. Then when you imagine the worst case scenario and the purpose behind electing a Veep, this "republican dream ticket" becomes an "acute nightmare" for the american people.
It's illustrative of McCain's ongoing recklessness - something which has dogged him since his Anapolis days and misdemeanors there - to flying against his shrink's orders and crashing his 5th plane.
Sarah Palin becomes "MC CAIN'S 6TH PLANE CRASH".
What a nightmare to imagine this airhead waking up at 3:00 with her screaming baby at her breast and having to answer the red phone? She won't even know what planet she's on no less what to do because she's clueless. And it appears that her "Mr. Mom" hubby doesn't even have the personal gravitas to be of any assistance other than shoving bottles in the baby's mouth.
This IS a national security issue. This IS criminally serious. THIS IS OUR WORST NIGHTMARE.
And we thought that Chimpy was dangerous because of his ignorance? Hell, we ain't seen nothin' yet!
Ms. Palin is a good choice for the Republicans. They will be able to trot her about and have her do tricks for the womens' vote at their convention after the dancing black people leave the stage. And, in the best puppet politician traditions of the GOP, she will, if elected, dance on the end of the same strings tied to McCain and pulled by whatever Rovian/Cheneyesque puppet masters are behind the White House curtain this time.
curtilingus @ 31:
StirFry @ 29:
How do you get change if you elect the most experienced politicians? They wake up one day and say to themselves, "well, I've been stuffing my bank account with corporate yummies for so long and sucking the taxpayer's tit, I think I'll give of myself to the nation for a change"????
Sorry but experienced politician=scam artist used snake oil salesman
StirFry @ 29:
The list of lack of qualifications alone speaks volumes against this naive woman. Then when you listen to that whiney, screeching voice (like nails on a blackboard), it says it all. Combine the antiquated teased up coif and presentation and it's apparent that she belongs in Alaska - somewhere "in the dark" and "under a rock". There's no way to polish a turd or to jazz up a heffer, folks.
She belongs in McCain's morning cereal - Snap, Crackle, or Pop would be my guess. Or just another corn "flake" in the box.
oops messed up that quote. 3 days? give me a break. Something stinks here.
I think Palin running for the second most important and demanding spot in this country is not only a case of her being totally ignorant but makes the case for overt child abuse if you ask me. Besides, the youngest if a mongoloid with special needs. Absentee mother, anyone?
blue dog @ 16:
How can you be such an ignorant dick? Just askin'.
Bob @ 12:
Thank's for fixing the link Bob.
Everyone, please click on the above link to see YOUR NEXT PRESIDENT in all her conservative christian values glory!
Sadly, I think it will work. Rove. You are an evil genius.
Nicole: Come on. That's clearly a Photoshop. Her head is too big for her neck and shoulders and the shadow on the cabinet behind her head doesn't match the silhouette at all.
Jed has a new video up that pretty much nails how Palin passed the vetting process. Funny as all get-out.
http://www.jedreport.com/2008/08/getting-to-know-you.html
This choice for VEEP demonstrates clearly that Sen. McCain wants only to win at any cost and not put "Country First". Why would he place someone just a heartbeat away from POTUS who has no idea what a Vice President does much less the President.
He chose this woman to pull Senator Clinton supporters... again showing his lack of understanding of her followers. They don't want just any woman.. they wanted Hillary. It's a lame and desperate ploy on his part.
ConcernedCanuck @ 37:
And if you do your research you will see that, without a shadow of a doubt, Palin is THE "quintessential snake oil saleswoman". She hunts and is a gun-totin' member of NRA (violence) and then sues the government for protecting the polar bear because it will squelch the oil drilling.
If you're looking for a true and literal "snake OIL Saleman" then Palin's your gal.
And, as a staunch Hillary supporter, I can tell you that this woman is NO Hillary Rodham Clinton. She's the exact opposite - the antithesis of Hillary so Reckless McShame has totally shot himself in the foot with this pick. She will not get any contemporary woman who respects her rights to vote for her just with her Roe V Wade stance.
This is exactly right -- it wasn't just cynicism, it was also risk addiction. It was a huge roll of a dice from a man who can't stop playing craps.
Here's a brief background on The Palin Scandal. She's being investigated for abuse of power.
This is McSame's idea of a pimp job on the american system of governing if you ask me. He's on the swan song-portion of his life at 72 and cancer riddled to put this totally classless, puff-piece airhead in our faces and in the faces of all qualified female members of his own party. It goes without saying that he's given Romney and the other presidential contenders of his party the "royal finger".
I'll admit I know little about Palin...hell never really heard of her much...BUT...what is the difference here? Could someone enlighten me? 18 million Dems voted for a totally inexperienced Hillary who's only real "experience" was reading books to children and cutting ribbons at libraries while her husband was galloping around getting his turnip waxed.......hell I've been in construction for decades and I'm married, does that make my wife totally experienced to do construction? Nope....at least Palin has served as governor....only experience I saw from Hillary was that of the senate where she basically voted with Bush every time.......I don't get the difference here.
JimboSlice @ 4:
I saw this earlier today. You know, this is extremely telling. Barack Obama and Joe Biden seem to respect women tremendously. Joe Biden authored the Violence Against Women Act. John McCain seems not to want to have equal pay for equal work.
And these two video clips just go to show not only that John McCain (whom himself called his own wife a "c...") won't criticize those who use a disparaging term, and he won't criticize because of political reasons; it also shows that Sarah Palin, a woman, won't even defend another woman from being called an ugly name...again, for political reasons.
I mean, listen to her cackle at these two jokers.....and then she says she would be "honored" to have them at some event.
I hope this gets out there far and wide.
anney @ 47:
Thanks, Anney for this. It's already highly circulated among the american populace. There is no doubt that this woman is a fraud and it will take about 3 days for her reputation to be chewed to tatters by the american public. I hear that woman in the GOP are being the first ones to call her on her antics and have been arduously gathering damaging evidence on this woman. McShame will hang his head in shame before all is said and done about Sarah Palin.
He's totally reckless and never vetted this woman - how could he have and then turn around and select her?
He is in profound need of a psychiatric evaluation at this moment and I believe that he will drop out due to either health (cancer) reasons or psychiatric reasons before the election.
I don't think that this little chickadee is aware of the avalanche about to fall on her head right now. But, as they say - ignorance is bliss. Let 'er rip!
gbear @ 43:
You guys have got to watch this video. McCain could not keep his eyes off Palin's ass, while Cindy looks on from in between.
I give it my most precious links in the thread award.
I wonder if McCain will give her husband and shadow Gov. of Alaska Todd Palin ( a real oil salesman) a cabinet position? So far , signs point to yes.
General Jack D. Ripper @ 50:
Anyone who publicly calls his own wife a C--- needs to be tarred and feathered. Anyone who laughs at this kind of joke is just as bad. But then again didn't he put his wife up to be in the Miss Buffalo Chip Erotica Contest? Tells the story, doesn't it?
curtilingus @ 52:
This is priceless - whoremonger McViagra strikes again! I did notice that Miss Cindy was having none of what Palin was peddling. It reminded me of some filthy rich heiress having to run home to shower after rubbing elbows with trailer trash. Priceless, indeed.
The other thing the Palin pick exposes is that the GOP thinks disgruntled Hillary supporters are idiots.
“Look at what she’s done to this state. What would she do to the nation?”
WHAT HAS SHE DONE TO THE STATE??? ... specifics, please!
Pretty telling as well are the comments from Palin's own state. Most of them thought it was some kind of practical joke. Palin belongs in beauty contest (wait, scratch that since I've seen a photo of those thunder thighs). Where she belongs is addressing the PTA in some local Alaska gymnasium. According to the Peter Principle and the comments of her own constituents in Alaska, she's botching the job of Governor so she may not even be qualified to accomplish this job not to mention moving to Pa. Avenue. Horrors of all horrors - Elvira lives!
Maybe Palin got the nod because everyone else refused the job.
There's too much emphasis placed on the Executive branch, anyways. If Congress could get its act together, they'd realize that they're the ones with the power.
I think Politico put it perfectly this morning:
Most people know the staff at the local Starbucks better than McCain knows Palin.
Filthy Harry @ 56:
KKKKarl really botched this one!
Christ-o-fascists energized by pick of right wing loon http://news.yahoo.com/story//ap/20080830/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_palin_evangelicals
JimboSlice @ 60:
How typical of a reckless individual, eh?
I think it illustrates the fact that McCain's cancer has returned and he doesn't give a damn about any of it. He won't be here to see the nighmare he leaves in his wake, that's clear.
katy @ 57:
Turned the clock back to the dark ages?
krylon @ 40:
Even if that baby didn't have Down's Syndrome, wasn't it just born 5 months ago? I don't want to sound sexist.....but VP of the U.S. is a high pressure job which does require long, strenuous hours. I wonder what "Doctor" Laura would think?
Every Republican I know is absolutely disgusted with what McCain has done to their hopes. The convention will only be filled with sensationalists who want to witness a "historic train wreck" and frauds who pretend to be excited about this lapse in judgment and breach in our national security. I won't bother watching a minute of any of it - didn't plan to previously and now with this bubblehead being dishonestly fawned over, it would make me vomit.
The Focus Group Express!
HERE'S PALIN WITH THE TED STEVENS ENDORSEMENT
That says about all that need be said. In a state rife with corruption concerning oil and money, this is about as damning as it gets. McKeatingFive can't get enough corruption around him. He as to have even more, even if it comes in the form of a woman-hating woman who knows how to read a republican script written by oil companies.
But then again, isn't oil the common thread with the repugs, anyway?
I do not know why some folks think that this pick is problematic for the Democrats. She is an empty mini-skirt, clouded by charges of corruption, and hiding behind an Uber-Christian Super Mom Facade. Her honeymoon will be over before the end of September. The voters who will be attracted to the Republican ticket were NEVER going to vote for BO anyway. When push comes to shove, this ticket will be exposed as the lamest thing since Dole - Kemp. It is the Democrat's task to attract enough young / new voters to the polls to counter the idiot racists and fundamentalists who will vote for whatever bag of ahem, talent the RNC throws up there. I'm also thinking that it is about time for the non-fear driven, thinking voter to make a comeback. My only real concern is the appearance of the defrosted corpse of Osama Bin Laden in mid October. That'll bring out the rubes in droves, and knock a lot of "Security Moms" off of the fence. Here's hoping it won't happen.
General Jack D. Ripper @ 65:
Dr. Laura would submit a diagnosis of "FLAGRANT AND UNABASHED CHILD ABUSE".
We can discuss the lack of qualifications for Sarah Palin, and there are plenty, but the biggest problem is that it indicates that John McCain’s temperament and judgment is far below the standards necessary to serve in the Oval Office.
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That is just plain silly. You would also have to condemn Obama for the same reason.
krylon @ 63:
His advisors will make the most important decisions for him, including his veep. he doesn't have to know. It is not the president who is running the country. The president is a titular figure. It will be the same with Obama. There are much more powerful people behind the scenes.
Elections are just another show on TV for your entertainment. has anyone else figured that out yet?
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 68:
McKeating and Sarah Stevens, that's about as bad as it can get.
Ruthless People @ 64:
she's just continuing in a long line of asshats corrupted by oil money.
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krylon @ 66:
This is a good point. The repugs, especially with the likes of Limpballs, have strongly criticized the media (and, in turn, Obama) because the media wants to see an "historic" event. How many times have I heard in the last 24 hours that selecting Palin is an "historic" event???
curtilingus @ 72:
This totally reckless decision surely indicates that at least the Repturds believe that our government is a sham so I cede your point on that count. All others (40% I's and 36% Dems) know otherwise.
McCain has before demonstrated the thinking of a gamlbing addict. This is another instance. Palin, in the meantime, is a subject for indictment for using the powersof the governors office to wage a personal vendetta.
I can't help but recall, again, that McCain is an idiot, the perfect kind of GOPer candidate for the WH. He can be relied upon to be an obedient sock puppet to the people who want him installed in the office. Continuing in the mode of Reagan and the Chimp, he can be depended upon to play the role while the PNAC and whoever remotely operate him. But since actuarial odds say that he may not survive a first term or will be incapacitated with the illnesses of old age, the puppet masters are going to need an empty-headed back up puppet, just in case. Palin fits the bill nicely, plus she lets the GOP indulge in the PUMA fantasy, a meme that they seem unable to let go of.
As an act of pandering, it's not likely to get him very much mileage. He stupidly miscalculates. But, to be fair, this does look to be the same kind of pandering I've seen from Obama, specifically, his pandering to the right wing religious bigots when he promised to continue and expand the unConstitutional faith-based initiatives nonsense. That was a poorly considered miscalculation, too. In each case, it alienates a good part of the base.
Palin is anti-abortion, pro-oil, a creationist, corruptible and not very bright. George Chimpster in a skirt. What more could a GOPer want in a candidate?
General Jack D. Ripper @ 76:
What is so historic? She's not the first female VP pick and she's certainly not the first token used by the republicans.
foutsc @ 75:
I hear that Sarah Palin ran a hot dog stand near the dog sleds at the ski resort during one of her summer breaks. That's way too cool and definitely qualifies her to run this country, doesn't it? Or was it the "McHooker" photo of her in the leather mini skirt with her pubic hair streaming out from the bottom brushing the tops of her CFMN pumps? Or the buttons open to the naval blouse she is wearing on the photo? Take your pick. She surely does have "experience" but not anything any moral american can talk about.
They're creepy and they're spooky, mysterious and kooky, they're all together ooky, the Addams Family http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
ConcernedCanuck @ 49:
Hillary was one of the more influential attorneys in the US before Bill was elected president. Apparently her first experiences with Washington DC politics, was as judicial council for the Watergate investigation comittee back in 1974, she has been an advocate for children and minorities rights since her student days in the late 60's, and a senator for New York, (population some 10+ times larger than Alaska) since 2000.
We from outside the US didn't know her before Bill was president, but she has quite a story before that.
I can't wait for the VP debate!
Congaree @ 69:
My concern is the following: Bush I with Quayle; more conservatives who don't like McCain may vote now for him; Rove; "infanticide" charge about Obama that's kind of out there in the cellars, but with Palin's Down's Syndrome baby, you know this is going to at least get more play; people who just don't think and vote because she is a woman.
No way, no how am I going to vote for McCain/Palin; Obama needs to win this; but I think with the Republican attack machine, it isn't going to be easy.
I have one question for Sarah Palin--what about your baby? I am a mother. I was told by my grandmother and my daughter's pediatrician that the first two years of a person's life are the most important for their future development. Will hubby breastfeed her infant son? Or will she do as so many other republicans--talk about family first, then hire an undocumented worker to take care of her children? When ambition calls, it is funny how republicans forget their so-called values. The sudden absence of a mother would confuse any infant. It will be especially harmful to one with developmental problems.
G C @ 46:
Finally someone brings this McCain character flaw to the fore. Apparently you would need to be ready to lose some cash if you take a seat at a poker game with Obama. Poker being a game that requires calculation of odds, probability, insight into your opponents character, the ability to take many variables into account in a real time situation. You know the kind of qualities that might be handy to have when navigating a tricky geo-political situation. On the other side you have McCain has spent marathon sessions and lost thousands on the "roll of the dice."
So placing all his eggs in the basket of a freakin’ Hockey Mom; a hard charging, mom of 5 with a working husband (who the bleep is raising those kids), helicopter wolf hunting, ex-mayor of a town of 6500, BS in journalism, freshman governor under investigation for abuse of executive power seems very consistent given McCain's history and character deficiency.
Speaking of which here is an interesting read from the Phoenix New Times back in 2000 about McCain's cozy relationship with Cindy's dad the beer distribution king among other things. Keep in mind that McCain has only gone downhill since then. http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/content/printVersion/167059
The GOP Reverse "Dream ticket" (aka Nightmare on Penna. Avenue) of Pathetic Palin and McKeating Five. What does that say for the calibre of the republican party today?
krylon @ 55:
From the angle of his eyes, McC*nt was looking at her cleavage. he was also reading her script to make sure she was on message. it shows how much respect he has for women. at the end, she was kinda backing away from mcC*nt, kind of like he had chemo-breath or something.
I liked this headline and the accompanying picture:
38 Million Reasons John McCain Picked Sarah Palin
"Does anyone want to vote for a man who - when facing down Putin, Ahmadinejad or Bin Laden - is likely to just roll the dice and pull a judgment call of Palin quality out of the bag?"
McCain is reckless, foolish, thoughtless, and reacts to situations off the cuff instead of thinking about them before he jumps in. Putin, Bin Laden, and possibily Ahmadinejad (though he isn't the one actually calling the shots in Iran) on the other hand are all chess players. Every move they make is deliberate and well thought out. They leave very little to chance. Because of McCain's traits the U.S. is more likely to be caught off guard and/or blindsided. McCain's almost reactionary pick of Sarah Palin is just another reflection of this.
Mayor of a town of 6,000. Short term governor of the 48th largest state http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_population .
yea,she's ready to be a heartbeat away from the presidency.
curtilingus @ 52:
McMediadarling looked totally uncomfortable. He had his fake smile going strong.
BTW was Michelle standing next to BO when he announced Biden? Why is Cindy always there? I mean ALWAYS! I've never seen this before where the wife of the candidate never leaves his side. Is it because he can't be trusted? Vicki Iseman? Another thing is what the fuck is up with her arm? It was first reported that she sprained it shaking hands with someone and wore a sling but now it looks like it's in a cast. What a wimp she is or is it supposed to garner sympathy. I gotta tell you my ex husband hit my arm once so hard it turned black from wrist to elbow and I never wore a sling or a cast. In fact I never went to the doctor.
Filthy Harry @ 79:
Don't get me wrong....I want Obama/Biden in office and scared to death that McCain/Palin might get in there....and put us into the dark ages for generations with their Supreme Court picks.....but I think there are some, and probably not a small number, who see a woman actually getting into the office as a much stronger possibility....McCain and Obama have been fairly close in the polls.
Joyce @ 85:
What it tells me (as a mother) is that she has hypocritical family values. It tells me that either she's deluded enough to believe that she can do both which we know is definitely not true or that she cares little for her children. That's precisely what it tells me.
Filthy Harry @ 79:
OUCH!
yes, and let's not forget who McCain listens to for foreign policy advice: a whole cabal of neo-conservatives and their 'America first at any cost' imperialistic views. they don't care about Iranian citizens who could be hurt or killed in a US bombing, they don't care about talking to Putin about anything they just want another Cold War. and, my friends, so does John McCain as evidenced by his over reacting bellicosity when the Georgia situation occurred. McCain is a neo-con also. the future doesnt interest him. his entire existence is the past. so thats where hes going to take us if hes President. his JUDGMENT is insanity and it could not be more clear whom we Americans should vote for this year (if we want to keep our own futures intact): Obama/Biden. good grief, now it couldn't be more glaringly clear. this man is not electable.
curtilingus @ 72:
Elections are what matter in this country, and if the Rethuglicans have convinced you otherwise they have won. Anyone who does not vote has no right to complain about the current state of affairs. The only hope that the Repugs have is that people have lost hope and faith in government so much that they don't show up to vote these R-clowns out of office.
McDainbramage, showing his true motivation for picking the ex-mayor of Cicely, Helen Chenewith reincarnated, said, "She's exactly who I need."
Move over Harriet Miers, your title of "worst pick ever" has been lost.
ConcernedCanuck @ 49:
You do know she's been the Junior Senator from New York for the last 7 years, right? That's a pretty significant difference to begin with.
It seems to have been one or all of three: 1) a vain attempt to convince Hillary supporters that the should think with their vaginas in the same way men like McCain think with their penises,
YES! He can't stop looking at her breasts.
This election has officially become a joke. McCain turned it into one.
Palin reminds me a bit of McCain's first wife,Carol Shepp, with that brunette look.
Janet @ 90:
He probably whacked her in one of his temper tantrums. We'll eventually get the skinny on what's up with her arm. It can't be good inside the McCain house (any 7 of them) these days. With Vicky Iseman resurfacing as a scandal and Cindy having to turn over her income tax forms as first lady, there is little doubt that the shit is hitting the fan for all of them.
I thought it looked like some washed up, greasy haired "has been" eyeing up her new, younger competition. Cindy looked totally angry and very uncomfortable with her body language yesterday. And they all know that Vicky Iseman is coming right around the corner to blind side and totally derail this candidacy. She's the Dems's "ace in the hole" (pun intended).
Since when have qualifications mattered to the American people - No one's paid attention for the past eight years. Why should they start now?
Whether you want to admit it or not, Barack seriously underestimated McCain in the choosing of the VP slot. With the recent hammering of the 2004 VP pick, John Edwards, and Karl Rove egging him on by telling him who to pick, Barack Obama fell right into the conservative media trap and picked a safe but underwhelming candidate - hoping his own stardom would push him over the finish line. This left John McCain with an option or two
And boy did McCain pick a winner. Despite her ass-backwards dogma, Palin is cute, she's a mother of 5, she has one kid in the army and another in a wheelchair. Also, because of her ass-backwards dogma, she's helping McCain to lock up the far right wingers who might have otherwise stayed home on election day. Palin is exactly what Schwartzeneggar was during the California run-off election - a line drive to right field that no one saw coming, and chances are she'll be every bit as much a lame duck as Ahnold was too. Unfortunately, the reality remains people don't tend to see this kind of thing until after elections, and if Barack doesn't understand this, he's in big, fucking trouble.
I am not fond of Politico BUT there is a terrific article by Jim Vandehei on 6 reasons why McCain chose Palin. The very FIRST reason is because he is DESPERATE. This is a good article.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12997_Page2.html
As John Kerry so articulately said - McKeating needs to decide which John McCain he is once and for all. Having 7 houses indicates that he suffers from both PTSD and multiple personality disorder. He can be 7 different individuals in each of his 7 homes.
gbear @ 43:
Heeheeheehee......Fun stuff. Cindy doesn't look happy, McLame has his lecherous old man moments, Palin looks like she's trying to keep the dirty old man from touching her......fun stuff from the Repukes. Who says the most fun they can have is in men's rooms with wide stances. This brings the hetero (in a twisted sort of way) back into the Gassy Old Pukes organization.
aquarius2 @ 102:
As they say: "Desperate individuals do Desperate Things!". Truer and more apt words were never spoken as we've all witnessed yesterday.
Sorry here is the corrected link, starting with page 1 for the Politico article
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12997.html
krylon @ 66:
Oh, the republicans in my backwater are positively drooling with glee. I don't know how many comments I've seen on local news websites about how "excited" they are and now they'll vote McCain "for certain". One local tv interview last night particularly made me sick - the guy was saying how she was "A real darn good choice; she's for guns, wants to make abortion illegal, believes in family values just like I do". The thing he said that drove me over the edge? "She's a real purty lady too, seems like a real lady."
That one drove me to a couple of tequila shots.
McCain pick energizes http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080830/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_palin_evangelicals the agents of intolerance http://www.iht.com/articles/2000/02/29/bush.2.t_9.php
Maverick McPander!
Joe O. @ 88:
I think when the repugs picked gwb, after McKeatingFive actually appeared to be the leading candidate, it said a lot for what the repugs actually thought of mcC*nt - that gwb vwas a better choice. The repug leadership knew something.
I am now convinced that they are trying to set up another Carter situation:
1- let the loser lose by running his own type of campaign. then end his political career ignominiously by pointing out his extensive list of faults as the reasons for losing. make no mention of the failed repug brand. the media will sell this, lock, stock and barrel.
2- tank the economy officially(it will teeter/totter until december, thus creating a crisis for the democrat around inauguration time), then blame the democrat, limiting his run to four years, a la Carter, who inherited a dangerous foreign policy and teetering economy(and a greatly disparaging press) from qhwbush (who thankfully had only four years.). Again, the media will sell this, lock, stock and barrel.
Ron.j @ 71:
Not necessarily. Obama rose to where he is now on his own and that says a lot about Obama's overall qualities. It was only later that he chose a very experienced Joe Biden to be his VP which further adds to Obama's campaign. McCain's campaign did the exact opposite. Instead of adding to McCain's experience and over all judgment ability, they mock it by selecting a mere novice to be his running mate.
POLITICALLY INCORRECT STUFF TO FOLLOW!
Anyone remember Cookiegate?
That started when HRC, back in the day during the first Clinton race, made an off the cuff remark about not being someone who stayed at home making cookies. OY! Such a fuss! How dare she dis momapplepiesacrificesupplicance!
Flash forward: This Alaskan governor who, while governing a state (granted not a highly populous or seemingly complicated one), gives birth to a Down's Syndrome child. AND REMAINS THE GOVERNOR! Now, either governing this state doesn't take much effort, or stepping down to take care of a special needs child isn't so important, isn't a family value.
Now, I don't know that Dad isn't the stay at home sort. I don't know how this all works out. BUT FOR FUCK'S SAKE! We CRUCIFY Hillary for not baking cookies, and the party of the fantasy of Ozzy and Harriet doesn't have a problem with a CAREER woman not stepping down to be the caretaker? Of a special needs child? I'm smellin' hypocrisy.
I speak for my Uncle Jackie. He had Down's Syndrome. My grandma sacrificed her life to him. I speak for a dear friend whose life change completely with the birth of her Down's Syndrome daughter. Forget career. Attend to the child.
I don't say that anyone MUST. I don't say that anyone SHOULD. But for fuck's sake, if ANYONE should, given the conservative fantasy of what constitutes the American family, shouldn't it be a republican? Or does the fantasy only matter when it is convenient? HOW DO YOU GET TO HAVE THIS BOTH WAYS? How are some people condemned for not being the right sort, of not sacrificing everything for family, and some people given a pass?
My Fair VP
He should have chosen Michael Palin. That would have cornered the lumberjack vote!
Now she is a "maverick" too (no shit, they said :maverick?), according to a CNN article posted 5 minutes ago. Here's why:
She got the nickname "Sarah Barracuda" for her fierce competitiveness on the basketball court in high school. Some of her opponents revived the name after she became mayor of her hometown, Wasilla, in 1996, kicking out a three-term incumbent and butting heads with some city department heads who remained loyal to her predecessor, according to the Almanac of American Politics.
In 2003 and 2004, she chaired the state Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, which regulates Alaska's oil and gas resources.
My note: She butted heads with city deparment heads in Wasilla, population 7,000. Who, the garbage truck driver? How about Putin and McPOW's tough talk?
The question is: "why didn't John McCain chose Paris Hilton?
WOMEN WHO BEAT SARAH PALIN ON HER WAY TO THE TOP!
General Jack D. Ripper @ 91:
The polls do not count those with cell phones I have heard. Just sayin'.
Obama's playing the right card by not giving Rove ammo on this thing.
Roves technique these past two elections has been to use. . . "See? The white-wine drinkers are making fun of this average guy, George Bush. They're making fun of YOU, too! You'd much rather have a beer with the guy that can't talk so good, wouldn't ya?"
Likewise, he'll go with. . . "See? The elite liberals and pro abortion and birth control and anti family promiscuous types are making fun of this mother of five, Sarah Palin. They're making fun of YOUR WIFE, too! You'd much rather have a family picnic with the mother of five that doesn't use abortion as birth control, wouldn't ya?"
McCain is more toast that some of think.
Just check the youtube of the Cafferty File and then go to his webpage with the 10s of thousands of emails..... McCain is a bad spot, just read em
General Jack D. Ripper @ 91:
the polls have been lying! just like 2006, they want you to think it's close. it is not. it took a landslide to win by 5% or more and the dems picked up two senate seats and 9 congressional seats(8 true progressives). this is an even stronger scenario, because the polls have been changing their skew to support mcKeatingFive. "Likely voters" is the new meme, so they no longer count 1) people with cellphones 2) young people in general 3) elderly 4) unreachable minorities.....
they did it in 2006 and they skewed the democratic landslide to mean: the country is centrist, not left-leaning! wrong!
so don't waste a thought on polls. the fact that they are now issued several time a day should tell you that they are part of the psy-ops bombardment process.
at best, use that skewed poll result to galvanize and recharge your efforts.
Zenrage @ 101:
1) They are desperate to keep the oil interests happy. That's why they chose Palin. She's another Dick Cheney. Palin: "I beg to disagree with any candidate who would say we can't drill our way out of our problem."
2) McCain showed very poor judgment in picking such an inexperienced running mate. He hardly knows her. He made a political, not a statesman-like decision. He thinks with his eyes.
These two lines of attack will work.
Think positively! She's a truly horrible choice who is vulnerable on so many fronts.
I have a feeling Obama/Biden will keep fairly quiet, remain above the fray, and let the online crowd do the work of deconstruction and destruction.
McCain is George Bush, because his quick decision without thinking it though. Like Bush's rush to invade Iraq without thinking it though.
blue dog @ 16:
Have you heard her speak???
What more proof do we need that McSame lacks the judgement and character to be president.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 109:
This certainly appears to be the plan. Instead of caplilizing on his well touted strengths McCain basically flushed them down the toilet with this VP pick. Other than her ideology Palin brings nothing to the McCain campaign that could be of any use. The only reason for McCain's pick that I see is to throw the election for the reasons you indicated above.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6MVmv1OY6Q
L.A. Confidential @ 117:
actually, I believe it was Brokaw who came up with the beer line after hacking through one of the schieffer-shilled gore/bush debates. but your point is salient.
blue dog @ 16:
Because Obama rose on his own merits which people continue to respond to as we all see. Palin on the other hand was selected by McCain. She did not seek that position or could obtain it without McCain's help. The joke isn't about Obama's or Palin's apparent lack of experience. Its McCain's judgment that is a joke.
Chicken "Hussein" Little - Not! @ 104:
Are you saying he wants to bone her? I'm sure Cindy is a bit wilted anymore: not almost Miss Alaska. She's a pacthwork of plastic surgey under her Malibu Barbie clothes.
thelma @ 5:
Or, it's Barney and Betty Rubble!
Zenrage @ 101:
so when you look more closely at it, mcC*nt's vp embodies women, disabilities and the military.
when people go to vote, sympathy might just be the last reason they would vote republican.
If people think and live a little closer to home, if they look at the fridge, the car, the bills, the kids, they might not have that much sympathy for a guy who thinks $5Mil/year is middle-class.
The biggest difference I see today between McCain and Obama? Obama is sane. The biggest difference between the Repubs and the Democratic Party? The Repubs have absolutely no respect for the intelligence of the American public. Watch as they attempt to convince us that McCain's choice is absolutely the best choice he could have made (it'd be hilarious, if it wasn't so scary). That she will appeal to Hillary supporters (personally switching from Hillary to Obama was not an issue, other than the fact I'd love to see a woman president in my lifetime). I suspect the Hillary supporters that switch to McCain are the corporatists that thought Hillary would win and therefore wanted to jump on the bandwagon in hopes of having influence. Now that Obama is the candidate and the polls show a close race, they are going back to their natural environment - the Repub party. Remember these same corporatists (including the corporate media) would have us believe that Bush is competent.
blue dog @ 16:
that is pure bullshit!
and you know it
I think there is between 9 and 11 reasons why McCain should have picked Rudy Giuliani. Rudy is comfortable wearing a dress, so get him between 9 and 11 outfits to rotate through, and wolla, you have feminine appeal, and "experience".
Joe O. @ 124:
Only the myopic mcC*nt doesn't see it that way. I do agree with those who pointed out his gambling addiction(which might be another reason his wife has that pre-nup)
Filthy Harry @ 56:
not just hillary supporters...
my 23 yr old daughter - who is concentrating on a masters nursing degree not politics, but humors and obliges her mom by listening to an occasional rant, and understands the importance of it all - was "home" the past few days, and actually watched the convention with me those nights... yesterday, after this announcement, i even "caught" her watching CNN :-) and she told me it was because this story made her very curious... later, in the car, after yet another news story on the radio, she said, in that indignant tone we all share, "he must think women are really studid! that's pretty offensive"...
(YAY!)
gbear @ 43:
There may be a medical reason for McCain's VP pick as well. After all, a sugar daddy needs his sponge baths and other things as much as anyone as this picture shows. Boy are the comedians going to have fun with McCain's VP pick next week:
http://www.politicalbull.net/mccain_and_palin_in_2008.html
krylon @ 70:
Uh, just no. The husband can look after the children, or a nanny, or daycare. That's not an issue.
I'm just laughing at the pick. The only intelligent explanation I've seen is that this was a stunt so they'd be comfortable nominating someone else to the Republican ticket when they have their convention. Speculation as to why is open.
McCain could of easily tapped votes from moderates or undecided voters with a more moderate Republican such as Tom Ridge.
Ridge being pro-choice and popular among Pennsylvanians, he could of tapped the moderate vote and stole PA from the Dems.
But McCain being a dumbsky and a nutjob chose to pander to the extreme right of his party and assume that any female candidate with attract Hillary supporters.
As far as Alaska goes, that state has been RED for a long time and has never been a battle ground state that needed to be fortified (OIL OIL OIL OIL)
I don't understand the need to always apease to the extreme RIGHT, he could of picked a moderate to make the case for sanity, but hell McCain really is out of touch
Lyda Green's warning sounds eerily like Molly Ivins' warnings about the shrub.
fil @ 125:
11,000 postings!
BwaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!!!!!!!!!!
Who's vetting Mister Governor Palin?
fil @ 138:
eye candy?
The GOP handles the presidential election like they did their high school elections. There is not substance just dirty politics and trickery. So sad that the Grand Ole Party became the Greedy Oil Party. We have issues to address and they play PR games.
Last night (or early this a.m.), Jon Corzine was a guest on 'Real Time with Bill Maher.' That's what he said as well. This is about McCain's judgment & decision-making NOT about Palin herself. Her inexperience speaks for itself. AND what! WHAT! does it say about Alaskans?
Watch McCain's body language at the introduction of Palin. He didn't choose her; she was chosen for him by "the machine."
So here is what we know about Palin so far:
1. Alaskans agree (87%) that she is lying about the abuse of power charges
2. She had to apologize for her childish behavior on a radio show
3. She agreed to the bridge to nowhere and is lying about it.
Typical republican.
Edwin Hussein @ 114:
Sarah Palin does not have an Ivy league list of credentials, however comments and arguments that attempt to portray her as hayseed, cro-magnum woman are very likely to alienate the very blue collar Reagan Democrats and Independents that Barack is attempting to attract. Comments like these and Obama's comment “cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them,” portray democrats as elitists. Do not attack Sarah because you think she should be a stay at home mom, that she comes from a small town or that her husband works in the oil industry.
Sarah Palin’s husband is blue collar unionized steel worker. He works in the oil industry. It is a bit of an oversimplification, but if you live in Alaska you probably derive your income from the oil industry, mining industry, fishing industry, logging industry or providing goods and services to the oil, mining, fishing or logging industries.
The issues between Barack, McCain , Sarah and Biden are not where they come from, what hangs or does not hang between their legs, the color of their skin, or what their spouse does or does not do, the real issues like economy, security, environmental, energy policy, gay rights, abortion, and gun control. md sendsss
Upcoming aside somewhere on the trail: "Hey ****, c'mon over, I want you to meet the Presidents of Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia."
This choice of Palin shows once again that McSame is a fighter jock. I've worked with and known a lot of fighter pilots in my life. Nothing in fighter pilot training remotely qualifies a person to be President. Gen. Clark had it right and the neo-cons and the corporate media lambasted him for it. This is just another case where McSame shoots from the hip without looking at the big picture. His only consideration was to counter the effect of the Democratic National Convention and appeal to those women chauvinists who are still angry that Hillary lost. This decision shows very clearly that McSame is not qualified by experience or temperament to be President.
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