Just Because McCain Says He's a "Maverick" Doesn't Make It So
On Fox News Sunday when asked to "assess the Bush presidency" by Chris Wallace, John McCain asserted that "history will judge the president" and ran through a litany of talking points attempting to differentiate himself from the current administration. One area he was most insistent about was that he is a "maverick" who continues to oppose the Bush administration's use of torture.
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McCain: I obviously don’t want to torture any prisoners. There’s a long list of areas that we were in disagreement on, but I also think ...
Wallace: You’re not suggesting he did want to torture prisoners?
McCain: Well, waterboarding to me is torture, OK? And waterboarding was advocated by the administration and according to published reports was used, but the point is, we’ve had our disagreements, and I've been called a quote "maverick," and I'm not the most popular person in my party.
Though McCain himself was a victim of torture and has been outspoken about his opposition to it, his voting record has not matched his rhetoric.
McCain seems to forget that he voted against a bill that would have banned the CIA from using waterboarding. In fact, when the bill passed, McCain urged Bush to veto it, which he did. Thus, McCain’s claim that he “obviously doesn’t want to torture prisoners” rings hollow. Indeed, because of Bush’s veto, the CIA retains the option of waterboarding prisoners. ..(more)
And it wasn't just torture that John McCain was being disingenuous about. His oft-repeated claim that he is a "maverick" is a myth. His own home state paper, The Arizona Republic, concluded otherwise, finding through an analysis of his Senate votes over the past decade "that McCain almost never thwarted his party's objectives." Just like he did on torture, he oft pretends to be against something but only until his vote is actually needed to count, and whenever that happens he falls reliably in line.
Likewise, his attempts to differentiate himself from Bush would be laughable if so much weren't at stake. John McCain has voted with George W. Bush 95 percent of the time in 2007, and has voted with him 100 percent so far this year.
McCain himself even admitted on FOX's "Your World with Neil Cavuto, that "The president and I agree on most issues. There was a recent study that showed that I voted with the president over 90 percent of the time, higher than a lot of my even Republican colleagues." (watch it)
Sen Bob Casey couldn't have said it better: "That’s not a maverick. That’s a sidekick."
Didnt mccain write the Military commissions act, which gave the prez enough room to torture whoever he wanted?
what? john mccain is less than truthful about himself to try and fool people into electing him? say it isn´t so...
McBullshitter
That's all that needs to be written about this loser ..............
The Quicktime version has no sound.
The windows media version is ok.
Mr. Viagra nose.
If mcgramps is a maverick
I'm Cary Grant.
And why pick palin
Was julianna not pretty enough?
Would the CIA be allowed to force prisoners to watch Mama Mia on an endless loop?
Vote Viagra/Vagina ´08
And judging by this latest video, He may not make through the acceptance speech. Read more. http://www.tagg-lines.com/2008/08/more-flesh-tone-asap.html
When is someone gonna make a movie musical based on the music of Alice Cooper?
Everyone here hates McCain.
He's not the enemy. The enemy is the power structure that installs and maintains fucks like G.H. Bush, Bill Clinton, and shrub.
OK, McCain is part of the same system.
Isn't Obama also?
Vote incontinent and incompetent '08.
VietVet8666 @ 10:
yes... but you should drink the kool-aid here like everyone else here at crooks... it´s delicious...
10 VietVet8666
Oh puhleeeze,
Next you'll be blaming the Establishment or The Man.
Hope McSame realizes what he went through in Viet Nam is not considered torture by his buddy Bush.
Pretty Old Wuss.
barkin @ 2:
Wait until you see the snow job they are going to have to perform on Sarah "barracuda" Palin hi VP pick!
A blogger at D-Kos compiled all the research on her that everyone was finding out and links to all of the sources for verification.... HIGHLY RECOMMENDED READING!
She creates more problems for McCain than she solves...
PALIN-tology - 45+ Problems for McCain's VP in just 35 hours
by BoBo2020
Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 06:28:59 PM PDT
1. Sarah Palin has an Abramoff problem - a Pro-Palin illegal mailer was sent during her gubernatorial campaign on behalf of Palin by the RGA, the DC group that got money from Abramoff, Reed, etc.
2. She advocated AGAINST mine safety / pollution control
3. She has an ANTI-ENVIRONMENT RECORD and is on the wrong side of global warming and doesn't think polar bears should be listed as endangered because it interferes with her drilling plans.
4. She's against sex education - abstinence only.
5. She appears to oppose windfall taxes on oil companies at the national level but supported them to benefit her state.
6. Believes Creationism should be taught in science classes
7. Don't believe the whispers that she supportive of the GLBT community. She's opposed to state health benefits for same-sex partners and only vetoed a resolution that would have ended state benefits because the Supreme Court had already declared it unconstitutional.
8. She's opposed to universal health care and stem cell research
9. No foreign policy experience? According to the folks at FOX think she has foreign policy experience because "Alaska is near Russia." Oh, and she didn't even have a passport until last year.
10. She doesn't know what the Vice President really does.
11. This choice is NOT helping McCain's polling numbers, especially with women.
12. McCain only met Sarah Palin ONCE and talked to her TWICE making this a purely cynical and desperate political appointment by HIS CAMPAIGN not by him! She's not really HIS VP choice.
13. She's deeply connected to the Bridge to Nowhere.
14. She stated that she would force her own daughter to have a rapist's child.
15. She has 3 houses
16. Terre pointed out that she's connected to VECO - the company at the heart of Ted Stevens' troubles. She also received an endorsement from Ted that has suddenly disappeared from her webpage.
17. She called candidate Clinton a whiner. Why does everyone in the McCain campaign think others are whiners?
18. She apparently hasn't taken a stand on most major political issues
19. Her selection has created a major rift among the Republicans, especially Romney & Pawlenty.
20. Past quotes by Rove make Palin's selection look like desperation.
21. Palin may have been scrubbing her own wikipedia page
22. Sarah Palin, Buchanite - Palin supported Pat Buchanan in 2000, a fact which may alienate certain Florida voters. Hat tip to misslotus
23. She was vetted too quickly and McCain only picked her the night before making the announcement.
24. She's still focused on Alaska not the fact the she would be Vice President for the whole nation.
25. She participated in a profane on-air attack againt the Alaskan State Senate President and giggled at the word b*tch..
26. Like Bush and McCain, she can't admit when she's wrong.
27. She's linked to the Dominionist movement and Joel's Army.
28. The United Steelworkers have already spoken out against her.
29. She was a bad mayor who left her town's economy in tatters.
30. She supported Obama's energy plan, but suddenly these references are disappearing.
31. Some of the PUMA's believe that John McCain is patronizing them.
32. Additionally, this choice eliminates the "He's not ready" attack on Obama.
33. This choice raises the issue of McCain's age (Is Palin ready to take over if he keels over).
34. It also raises the issue of McCain's past unfavorable statements against women.
35. Additionally, this choice reminds us that McCain is an adulterer and raises the spectre that he is just a dirty old man with wandering eyes.
36. Palin's husband is on BP's payroll creating a possible conflict of interest.
37. She made extremely poor use of Eminent Domain during her time as mayor.
38. She favors censoring library books (Alert your local librarian!)
39. Sen. Ted Stevens and Rep. Don Young (both under investigation) campaigned for her in 2006.
40. She didn't support McCain in the primaries.
41. The top 2 ALASKAN newspapers question her fitness for the job.
42. She supports aerial hunting of wolves even though it was outlawed by Congress. She's using a loophole.. Hat tip to Scarce
UPDATED: 43. She's part of Feminists for Life and is AGAINST BIRTH CONTROL. It would be awesome if someone asked her McCain's now famous "should insurance companies cover viagra/birth control" question.
44. Undecideds apparently don't like the Palin pick. Thanks marabout40!
45. More environmental problems - She fighting to prevent Belugas from being listed as endangered. Thanks again Terre!
46. In addition to polar bears, belugas, and wolves, for the first time in Alaskan history she is supporting hunting black bear sows and cubs. Thank you for the information Bodean.
47. She's either going to be distracted by being deposed soon or she is going to draw negative attention by trying to avoid being deposed.
48. There have been discussion of witness tampering and possible impeachment hearings related to charges of her abuse of power
49. MEME: Palin's selection provides a clear example of John McCain's hasty decision-making and poor judgement on important issues (like who would be best qualified to take his place if he could not complete his term).
50. She wants to destroy 1.5 MILLION ACRES of ANWR, not the 2000 acres she has lied about on the news.
51. Palin stated "I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq.."
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/30/201818/606
Come on John just say it. "Putin’s people captured all kinds of highly sensitive documents in Georgia and the Bush people are apparently terrified about what might turn up."
Additionally, putting Bubba in that group of the infamous and crooked is essentially agreeing with Ralph Nader's not a dimes worth of difference between boosh and Gore. And look where that has brought us.
McCain will say anything to get elected.
Just didn't have the pedigree of W last time. If he wins we are fucked big time.
ysbaddaden, which would you choose:
Evil
Lesser Evil
No Evil but likely to lose
Also, did you know that the government is cracking down on protestors? Look at this post by glenn Grenwald
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/08/31/raids/index.html
He points out American hypocrisy: when China crushed protestors during the olympics, america denounced the human rights violators. Now that its the US who is the bad guy, everyone is quiet.
I don't know what YOU see, but it sure looks to me like a devil with horns in the background of the picture!!!!
ysbaddaden @ 18:
He called them Twiddle Dee Dee and Twiddle Dee Dum.
He, Nader, is Twiddle Dee Dumber.
i'm totally frustrated........why didn't the 'maverick' brand work in 2000?
now this guy has all the answers. this 'maverick' brand is nothing more than marketing. mccain was aligned 90% of the time with bush the guy
he could NOT beat in 2000.
mccain is stuffed like a holiday turkey everyday with info and taliking points. i watch/listen to mccain speak he is looking down more than 50%
of the time compare to obama.
mccain isn't doing the thinking...he is just a warm body for these guys:
charlie black....a conflict will help mccain campaign
randy scheunemann....lobbyist georgia...warmonger
rick davis.....lobbyist big lucrative firm
phil gramm.....'whiners'....enron loophole....mortgage deregulation
mccain has been the social government system his entire life and is now 72 plus he isn't going to change anything MAYBE he'll reduce (R) spending. it's the democrats turn it's a natural cycle for a divided country.
this palin choice is 'maverick' he didn't make the decision. he wanted
lieberman or ridge. now we have a freshman governor with no foreign affair experience....with tension in n.korea,pakistan,iran,russia you have to be kidding me BIDEN much more qualified
McSame is grasping for straws. His Palin pick is an insult to women. Did he think women will fall for it? Yeah he did, there lies the problem.
rasputin@16
ya, all that may be true, but she´s quite the MILF... doesn´t that kind of negate all that other stuff? i mean, this is america and all that great research you´ve done kind of kills the chubby i had for her...
buzzkill
i believe i heard this correctly the 'maverick's' v.p. choice is against the pill
and condoms. these are incapable of grey spectrum thinking it's black and white or forget it. there are plenty of (R) using the pill and condoms.
George Bush says there is a war on terror.
John McCain says that this administration advocates the torture of detainees resulting from such war.
Therefore, George Bush is a war criminal.
If congress does not impeach, they are in collusion with war crimes.
barkin @ 27:
Not everything that "Mr. Wiggly" tells you is true buddy!
Her nick name is "Sarah Barracuda" and for good reason!
If it takes opposing torture to prove you are a maverick then he has very low standards. OY !
Calling Attorney General Mukasey, Your own parties presumptive nominee has now ADMITTED torture was used, can we please start the inquiries???
Sly Satan comes smiling, well dressed, and charming.
He wins over everyone with his charm.
He points to Gustav and says, that's God's act.
He says, I only ask that you choose between the lesser of two evils.
A protestor says, "I want to choose what is right."
Sly Satan says, "You can choose that, but you will lose, Make a realistic choice."
I was just listening to a live McCain - Palin rally on C-Span. McCain was hitting the 'change' theme hard (It seems to be working for the other side, so why don't we give it a try?), which caused me to think about how his choice would have differed had Obama selected a relative unknown and inexperienced VP candidate such as Tim Kaine.
I have no doubt that McCain would have then selected Rommney, and conservatives would still be railing about the lack of experience of Obama - Kaine vs McCain - Rommney. As it is, conservatives are downplaying the experience factor saying she is no less experienced than Obama?
Obviously, McCain and his Republican pals will do and say anything to get elected. Whatever the focus groups and polls tell them, that's the direction they'll head.
It's also interesting how they treat their base as the mindless sheep they are!
MCCAIN PLAYS PRESIDENT
On NBC News Biran Williams interviewed McCain and McCain said was down in Mississippi meating with FEMA and Chertoff and the governor of Mississisppi. Where are the hypocrites in the GOP who bashed Obama for "playing president"?
Calling politics evil is lame when for centuries people have tagged government as a necessary evil to restrain us from our evil natures, as per the Hobbesian view.
And sarah palin tall didn't really fight the oil companies. She merely replaced the corrupt politicians who preceded her, after they fell to Veco corruption charges. She mainly had the oil companies spread the graft around, so the average Alaskan citizen gets a cheque for 1000 or so dollars a year.
But if she pushes off-shore oil drilling what will that do to the rest of Alaska's big businesses, namely the fishing and tourism industries? They have cruise ships that go in the area, the protected lands are popular with hikers and campers. That's not counting hotels, air lines and all the service sectors. Oil rigs in general are a blight on the scenery. One bad accident on a off-shore rig could damage both the fishing and cruise lines, and impact the American food supply. And once the oil hits the international market, it'll make nary a ripple in supply or costs to the consumer.
Ruthless@35, There drinking kool-aid whining how the damn hurricane is ruining their party..
Jo @ 24:
i will not sit idly by while you guys bash nader... is there anything that guy says that is wrong? he got seat belts in cars, wants corporate cash out of politics, and wants to give the airwaves back to it´s rightful owners... US... i voted for him in 2000, and will gladly do it again... maybe he´s gone a little crazy, but wouldn´t you if the FBI locked you up in a room during the 2000 debates? where gore agreed with bush on 36 different occasions... nader didn´t loose the election for gore... gore and the supreme court lost the election for gore...
Ruthless People @ 35:
IOKIYAR
Compare potential v.p. to potential v.p.
the real equation is to compare Palin to Biden not obama. i understand that argument but try it with Biden......no comparison not even close. and for those trying to say Biden is NOT change....obama is the change....not Biden. obama is going to make changes when he is in office....to make change without knowing the past experiences/mistakes is foolish. that to me is a weak discussion.
barkin @ 38:
Ding. Ding. Ding.
well you sillies, you act like personal integrity and beliefs trump loyalty to party, tsk, tsk.
McBush just bashed Obama in the Brian Williams for not being a prior mayor (of a town of 6,000) and for not being an executive of the "largest state". Most people refer to "largest" to mean most populous in which case Alaska is the 47th largest state http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_population
Yea, Palin's experience is much more important than a US senator from the 5th largest state and who was a former community organizer in the 3rd biggest city http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population
Bush lied about a war, abandoned the constitution and embraced torture. Doesn't that make him a maverick too?
hey maverick what do think about the chant drill here...drill now..?...i'll ask my staff while were done in gulf area for the arrival of GUSTAV.
Contrast these two quotes:
1)S EN. McCAIN (6/19/2005 on MTP):
2) GOV. PAWLENTY (today on MTP):
WOW, too bad Tim Russert is no longer around to call out Pawlenty on his flat-out lie.
"I obviously don’t want to torture any prisoners. I want to let the underlings do it."
barkin @ 38:
The Supreme Court is the difference. Do you want to see another Clarence Thomas enthroned on the bench?
Sly Satan came and said to Voter:
You have three choices, Bush, Gore, and Nader.
Sly Satan said, be realistic. Nader can never win. Cast your vote for Bush or Gore.
Sly Satan said, "Oh, it won't make much difference."
j swift @ 42:
you just brillantly 'trumped' everything i said today to defend the my positions/opinions. simple yet brilliant....i mean that with respect. some of this is obvious but loyalty to the culture.....i meant party wins the day.
jhr@34
"Obviously, McCain and his Republican pals will do and say anything to get elected. Whatever the focus groups and polls tell them, that’s the direction they’ll head."
and this differs from the democrats how? obama voted for the re-authorization of the patriot act, sold out the 4th ammendment on retroactive immunity for the telecoms, and is talking stupid trash at aipac and vfw... don´t kid yourself... impeachment is still off the table, and not 1 word about the totally broken electronic voting machines...
John McCain is a Maverick, just like the the mid 1970's Ford automobile of the same name: http://www.maverickcometclub.org/pics/jean_doll_77_maverick.jpg
well the maverick pickd a v.p. who was endorsed by senator ted stevens(R)...you remember him he did his own episode of 'This Old House'
paid for by oil related industries. the mavericks choice also Raised taxes
on oil companies....something obama has discussed.
...and he's been called "a seedy old senile fart". I wonder if he will embrace that name as well??
He is about as big a "maverick" for change as a fly is to an insect. One and the same pretty much, except the spelling.
Notice to republican FAKE christians :
God is not mocked. Even the Almighty is sick and tired of your lies and sends Hurricane Gustav to shut you up!
Jo @ 48:
are you saying nader would put another thomas or scalia on the bench? i´m not gonna vote for mcdouchebag... i´m just sayin´nader speaks the truth... obama speaks well, and well scripted focus group tripe... i´m sick of it...
Yes, I'm sure the Republicans will be nominating a real maverick to be their standard bearer. It really would be so much like them to pick someone who can be counted upon to upset their plans and move off in his own direction. Those Republicans: such kidders!
The last time I heard that word maverick was in the 80's watching Top Gun. Give up your Tom Cruise fetish Gramps McSame.
He desperately wants to be the thought of as a maverick again.
Poor poor John "Sidekick" McSame.
unfortunately, so does chris wallace
john mccain said he is against torture?
Well, I'm being tortured because he a candidate!!!
Disagree with a republican 5% of the time and you're "such a maverick!". Disagree 20% of the time and you're a "traitor".
When asked to differentiate himself from Bush, McCain runs through Bush talking points verbatim (history will judge, no attacks since 9/11 blah blah blah). Not exactly the best way to distinguish yourself. Make up your own talking points, dude. That's one list you need to have ready and memorized. The fact that he started off repeating Bush lines was very telling.
Leave John McCain alone! He was a POW dammit!
Brendan @ 52:
good one.. rearend it and it explodes... i´d like to see mcgramps explode.. FUCK IT, WE´LL DO IT LIVE... something like billo but older...
JimboSlice @ 46:
now that was bizarre ... my comment ended up sandwiched between the two quotes cited in teh comment i was responding to ... the one time i don't "preview" ...
McCain, as Bush before him, is an obvious LIAR. Oty is too bad that a large portion of the general public remain ignorant of this.
Mccain is just another duplicitous republican bastard. They're all the same.
This lying, hypocritical bastard voted for waterboarding. Who the hell does he think he is kidding?
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/timmcfarland/gGgGRD
A high school friend of mine had an old Maverick. It had lots of miles and was pretty run down. It didn't always start in the winter, and it overheated pretty easily if you drove it to far. On the highway it generally pulled to the right, but it could change direction in an instant - almost so fast you couldn't remember the original direction.
Of course it used a ton of gas, burnt oil and created clouds of smoke. But every time my buddy got pulled over, he'd tell the cops the car had been towed and spent a long time in the pound. For some reason, that excuse seemed to work all the time...
I used to work with George Will at This Week. I'll bet he hates Palin. He won't say it because he's a team player, but he must realize that the evangelicals have taken control of the republican party away from the conservatives.
I would like to ask him that in an intelligent honest way. Buckley said that the GOP should lose this election and go off into the forest to cleanse itself. That's a Biblical statement. "Cleanse ourselves" is "wash these evangelicals off of us."
I totally agree with William Buckley. Founding member of the conservative movement. I totally agree with him. I would like George Will to admit the same. This is no longer the conservative movement this the Evangelical movement. Liberals didn't crush the conservatives, the evangelicals crushed the conservatives.
"Conservatives" should not vote evangelical they should try and take America back.
fiver @ 71:
lol, now that's a funny analogy..my brother actually had one in the early 80's...he drove it for about 5000 miles and it threw a rod...
I used to watch Maverick on TV. John McCain is no Maverick.
If McCain can sit there and spout off,
" President Bush deserves credit for America NOT being attcked since 9/11 "
Doesn't this give rise to,
" America was attacked on 9/11 which was on President Bush's watch, & earned his criticism for it ".
karen marie @ 67:
Perhaps because you were bashing to man he came back from on high to spite you :-).
McCain as a POW was never "Tortured".
McCain was merely a "Detainee" who was "Detained" at the Hanoi Hilton "Detention Center" where he under went "Enhanced Interrogation Techniques"
McCain:
right there, mccain said it right there, bush committed war crimes, now about that follow up chris;
“since you as most achknowledge it is indeed torutre, and since we prosecuted before for water boarding, you do realizse you just told america that cheney, bush and rumsfeld are war criminals, did you not?”
his head will burst
Robt @ 75:
what it shows is that they still dont get it
al quaida doesnt work like that
the only people who told us that we were at threat for another major terrorist attack was the government
it took al quaida 9 years to plan for this attack....they work slow...they always work slow
and im so sick of the line "history will judge" bullshit...
did reagan say that about carter?? nope
he said, "are you better off now then you were 4 years ago?"
talk about arrogant....mcoldfart is the epitamy of arrogance
fiver @ 71:
lololol
I stand corrected. I suppose McCain may really be a maverick after all. omg that was funny. Still laughing. :D
McBush said something weird. Responding to a Wallace question about his assessment of the Bush adminstration at :23 into the clip:
"I was adamantly opposed to the spending spree we went on, and predicted we would be in the difficulties as far as our physical sanity is concerned, if we continued the largest increase in goverment, uh, since the Great Society, and I urged vetoes...."
Physical sanity?
How is our physical sanity doing? Is it leaking out, day by day? I think he's off his rocker.
McCain's pick of a hot looking librarian lookalike from Alaska is enough of a Maverick move to make James Garner blush.
Why is it that whenever anybody says the word 'maverick' you never hear anybody mention Ron Paul.
I have plenty of friends who voted for him in the primary (saying that if they actually thought he had a chance of winning, they wouldnt have), and they all agree that being a true libertarian conservative (or what i like to call an ACTUAL conservative) made him the biggest maverick in DC.
49 VietVet8666
Why did you post this tripe twice? You already did on 33.
For the record I don't believe in a Satan. The name seems derived from the Egyptian demon Setah in The Book of Coming Forth Into the Light (E A Wallis Budge gave his translation the unfortunate name The Egyptian Book of the Dead). Setah was if I remember aright a demon of lust and perhaps snakes. That would make him similar to Apep, the great serpent that tries to eat the God Ra's Barque of a Million Years every night in the text The Book of the Am Tuat.
Setah, was probably a variation of Set. A possiblility exists that Set was a prominent God in the Northern Kingdom (South into the interior of Africa), until Prince Narmer overthrew the Northern Kingdom and became the first known pharoh of Egypt, uniting the Northern and the Southern Kingdoms (the latter was his home an in the northernmost portions of Africa long controlled by Arabs and Bedouins. But somewhere around the Middle Kingdom Set became a figure of evil.
Yes McCain, Bush is quite a guy for keeping us safe since we have not been attacked since 911. Which would be a great accomplishment except for the fact WE GOT ATTACK ON 911 ON BUSHES AND MCCAIN WATCH.
BTW didn't you vote yes so the CIA could torture
Bill W. @ 80:
I think Mc Lame is more like the Pinto because of his volcanic temper. Just don't hit it in the rear or it goes up like a fireball.
repugs nominate the guy who openly admits"'m not the most popular guy in my party" to be president. more incompetence, or by design? I have new for you, everything the gop has done has been by design, the crushing dept, the bankrupting march to war, the morgage scam, the enron scam, the katrina scam, medicare part d scam, the bankruptcy bill scam, the clinton media consolidation bill scam, the clinton "free" ( read corporate managed) trade bill scam, the no bid contract scam....
these people won't be happy until they have bled every last penny from the common wealth. their strategy has been the most effect wealth redistribution government policy in history.
they have gotten filthy rich off the destruction of our government. call it the attempted fruition of the political equivalent of "free trade" they were out to destroy government by bankrupting it--the depression to come will be because of it. democrats are to blame, too.
if mccain wins--democracy is over...period. pugs are hoping when shit hits the fan, we will blame the dems. what they'll get, if barrak has any balls, is a bold new, new deal. labor reform, national health care, public financing of elections, media de-consolidation....programs aimed squarely at the corporate Fascist utopia these un american thugs nearly realized.
i'm not holding my breath. i fully expect half-measures which by their nature will be easily undone or skirted through loopholes. the next president pug pres will finish the job.
What McSame meant to say was that he was "pathetic" - simple mistake.
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John McCain supported and helped re-elect a president who repeatedly used torture.
True or false?
correction: McCain supported a president who ordered others to use torture,
and who continues to defend and promote the use of torture as public policy to this day.
this is John McCain's judgment.
too funny.
Yea this doesnt shock me one bit. But once you repeat something enough it sticks... right?
Ruthless People @ 35:
This was the first thing I thought of when I heard the hurricane warnings from Sen. McCain. It looked like so much political grand-standing.
I'm sure the elder Senator means well but then only a really hateful louse would want bad things to happen as a result of a Cat 3 storm hitting the Gulf Coast. But he was making noise like he was the President and telling everyone "..the only thing we have to fear is.." Mr. Senator, please shut up! You want to do something productive, help people leave, give them a house to live in, fill sand bags but don't act like someone you aren't!
There are only three things the democrats need to take control: their own version of Karl Rove, the sympathy of the corporate media and a pair of testicles. The first two can be bought.
It is amazing to see how they still push this "maverick" bullshit uphill. Anyone who can read should be able to see right through it ...
Wallace's reaction was instructive.
His Bush talking points from a few years ago kicked in when all at Fox and especially Billo were saying the US never tortures
prisoners and anyone who says we do should be flogged.
I know there is a name for those who say one thing and do another....hypocrite....liar.....republican....? All of the above.
"...that America has not been attacked again since 9/11....I think the president deserves credit for that...."
I AM SO TIRED OF THIS TALKING POINT BEING THROWN AROUND!
Define "attack" please!!!! Anthrax attacks? Nooo. Mall and university shootings? Nooo. Violent crimes in our neighborhoods? Nooo. Unsafe to travel abroad due to animosity towards the US? Nooo. Inevitable and soon to come attack in the future? Nooo.
Thank you W. For making us safe!
Maybe he's a maverick AND a sidekick. I refer you to the 1952 Bugs Bunny cartoon Oily Hare, in which the evil little Texas oil man -- not quite a Yosemite Sam clone -- who wants to drill in Bugs's hole (sounds painful) has a sidekick named Maverick who never says a word, just nods vigorously when he's given his orders.
McCain has a staggering ego, and it was very much in evidence when he panderingly selected Gov Palin as his VP choice. She is a means to an end, a window-dressing choice. It's about winning the job he covets so much, and feel he deserves more than anyone: the Presidency. If she can solidify the base and win some extra votes for him then that's fine by him. She'll be over there if he needs her but otherwise she's irrelevant. No Dick Cheney VPs anymore with ol' mavericky JS McCain. He doesn't care about the voters, as evidenced by this unserious and underwhelming selection of her for his VP, he only cares about getting the Prez job. This man would be worse than Bush, he WILL be worse than Bush. His over reaction to the Georgia/Russia conflict and his presumptious postering by acting like he already was the Prez and furthered by sending his lapdogs, Lieberman and Graham to that area, and add in this first important decision for VP choice, then you have all the makings of a 'shoot from the hip' decision-making ability. Imagine him as President: Oops, get those missiles back that are tracking toward Iran, as I guess this new intelligence doesn't allow for that sort of strike...what?!? we can't stop them, reverse course, dammit. Crap, why did I react instead of think!!! This is the end of us...Yes, that sort of thing is highly probable considering his hot-headedness and his 'roll-the-dice' decision making. And look at the neo-cons who are his foreign policy advisers. They would love for nothing more than another Cold War, maybe with Israel involved as a big player too. And with McCain they have the perfect old fool to deliver it. He is not electable. It couldn't be more clear.
Typically political tactic of speaking out against a bill while voting for it at almost the same time. Then, rationalizing the vote later.
If America survives this election it will be a
miracle. IMHO
Not Maverick?
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