Republican Deathvention 2008.

Ruthless@2, Damn straight! The last thing the Repugs want at the Convention is Darth Chaney and GeorgieBoy.

Big deal. So what?

Clinton's sanctions in the 90s killed more than a million innocent [Iraqi] children. Iraqi hospitals couldn't get basic necessities such as disinfectant to keep the spread of infections in hospitals to a minimum. I didn't hear an outcry from so-called "progressives" in the U.S. back then, and I still don't. Until people start condemning the government as a whole, not just the current administration, I'll continue to regard the majority of Americans as barbarians.

ConcernedCanuck @ 6:

McDuff @ 5:

Big deal. So what?

Clinton's sanctions in the 90s killed more than a million innocent [Iraqi] children. Iraqi hospitals couldn't get basic necessities such as disinfectant to keep the spread of infections in hospitals to a minimum. I didn't hear an outcry from so-called "progressives" in the U.S. back then, and I still don't. Until people start condemning the government as a whole, not just the current administration, I'll continue to regard the majority of Americans as barbarians.

You don't hear too many peeps unless US soldiers are killed. I'd be willing to bet if there were no US soldiers killed, "this week in memoriam" would not mention the Iraqi deaths at all. The main thing that ticks people off is the deaths of soldiers and the waste of money. If the costs were low, and it was merely bombing runs like under Clinton and Bush 1, you wouldn't hear anything but crickets.

Well, that's OK, because it's the American way.

Democratic voters just have their heads in the sand thinking that once Bush is out, things will change and America will regain it's position as a beacon of freedom....blah blah blah. The thing is, Iraq is Vietnam redux. Not much has changed in the last 40 years.

The bureaucrats in government are the same bureaucrats, the corporations, the Pentagon and the mass media are the same. The only turnover is in elected positions. Even then, the president is just a different person who gets his news from the same CIA every morning. He may have his advisers, but at the end of the day, The Man is the same man wearing a different hat every 4 years.

What we're witnessing is a combination of denial and naivetés among voters.

ConcernedCanuck @ 8:

McDuff @ 7:

ConcernedCanuck @ 6:

McDuff @ 5:

You don't hear too many peeps unless US soldiers are killed. I'd be willing to bet if there were no US soldiers killed, "this week in memoriam" would not mention the Iraqi deaths at all. The main thing that ticks people off is the deaths of soldiers and the waste of money. If the costs were low, and it was merely bombing runs like under Clinton and Bush 1, you wouldn't hear anything but crickets.

Well, that's OK, because it's the American way.

Democratic voters just have their heads in the sand thinking that once Bush is out, things will change and America will regain it's position as a beacon of freedom....blah blah blah. The thing is, Iraq is Vietnam redux. Not much has changed in the last 40 years.

The bureaucrats in government are the same bureaucrats, the corporations, the Pentagon and the mass media are the same. The only turnover is in elected positions. Even then, the president is just a different person who gets his news from the same CIA every morning. He may have his advisers, but at the end of the day, The Man is the same man wearing a different hat every 4 years.

What we're witnessing is a combination of denial and naivetés among voters.

Ya, I think you nailed it. It's that same delusion that things were soooo damn awesome while Clinton was erected...err...elected. The great economic boom and low debt. It was all nothing more than a paper tiger, spiralling the corporate greed out of control with pretend high tech stocks. It was all a glass house waiting to collapse and it did. But there is no blame on Clinton for his failed policies. Both of these parties are so damn corrupt that it isn't funny. Hoping for change with a new prez is ludicrous. Neither of these Prez candidates are going to change anything.

Two things:

1) Clintons actions didn't bankrupt the US Treasury
2) Clinton's vice president didn't war profiteer by steering no bid government contracts to his former company watching his stock increase to 8 million dollars as a result.

There is a small difference between the two.

sorry i should have said wich warmongering prick!