OMG CNN reporting Sarah Palin's 17 year old daughter is pregnant....

I believe that anyone who voted for the disaster in Iraq, Republican or Democrat should step down and resign. That goes for John McCain, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, and even Joe Biden. I was reading the blogs back in 2002, and I knew there was no threat from Iraq, I knew about the Pentagon's office of Special Plans, the Israeli Spies, the Neo Conservatives, Ahmed Chalabi. It was horrifying to see the US Military, Government, Media and the American People go American Psycho on us.

As for Palin's Daughter, SHE MADE A CHOICE, HER CHOICE. Sarah Palin believes the earth was created 6,000 years ago, but doesn't believe that human beings are destroying the creating. Borrow and Spend, Borrow and Spend. What a nation...

Oh the humanity! Thank God the right wing blogs never said any mean nasty things about Obama.

McCain officials said the news of the daughter's pregnancy was being released to rebut what one aide called "mud-slinging and lies" circulating on liberal blog sites.

According to these rumors, Sarah Palin had faked a pregnancy and pretended to have given birth in May to her fifth child, a son named Trig who has Down syndrome. The rumor was that Trig was actually Bristol Palin's child and that Sarah Palin was the grandmother.

A senior McCain campaign official said the McCain camp was appalled that these rumors had not only been spread around liberal blog sites and partisan Democrats, but also were the subject of heightened interest from mainstream news media.

"The despicable rumors that have been spread by liberal blogs, some even with Barack Obama's name in them, is a real anchor around the Democratic ticket, pulling them down in the mud in a way that certainly juxtaposes themselves against their 'campaign of change,'" a senior aide said.

LOL. Would anyone be surprised if the rumors about Palin's daughter were started by the McCain campaign?

kscitydude @ 7:

Democrats, why are they cowards?

why to the vets hate the troops?

Huffpost is reporting that Palin's daughter is presently pregnant. As a commenter notes, so much for abstinance training.

Why isn't Sarah Palin being a full time mom with all these kids and grandkids? Why didn't she turn down McCain's request and her vice presidential ambitions to be with her family? Why does Sarah Palin put her political ambitions ahead of her ever growing family? Conservative minds want to know?

While it is laudable for VoteVotes.org to go after Susan Collins' support of the Iraq War, one wonders why they are also not attacking Obama for advocating that more American troops be sent into that quagmire in Afghanistan, where they can cause more innocent civilians to be killed by having 500 and 2000 lb. bombs dropped on them by American fighter planes.

Well, at least the daughter didn't use birth control.

Gutless.

McCain and the GOP are real good at starting wars and saber rattling but as Georgia has shown there are always unintended consequences.

You Poke the Russian Bear enough and he will poke back!

Russia-Cuba ties worry U.S.

Amid tensions over Georgia, Moscow has been signaling that it wants to restore its relationship with Havana that included military and intelligence cooperation.
By Paul Richter, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
September 1, 2008

WASHINGTON -- Amid rising tensions over Georgia, U.S. officials are increasingly concerned that Russia is moving to rebuild one of the most dangerous features of the old Soviet Union's security structure -- its alliance with Cuba.

Moscow has been signaling that it wants to restore a long relationship with Havana that included not only economic ties, but also military and intelligence cooperation. The relationship brought the world to the brink of nuclear war during the Cuban missile crisis of 1962, when Russia secretly installed nuclear missiles on the island.

U.S. officials believe that Russian statements are partly bluster, intended to dissuade the United States and its allies from moving the NATO alliance and military equipment, including missile defense sites, closer to the Russian border. And some experts question how interested Cuba is in rebuilding close ties with Russia.

But at a time when Russia has intervened forcefully in Georgia and is extending the global reach of its rebuilt military, some senior officials fear it may not be only bluster.

Russia "has strategic ties to Cuba again, or at least, that's where they're going," a senior U.S. official said recently, speaking, like others, on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive implications of the assessments.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-usrussia1-2008sep01,...

Ruthless People @ 17:

Church Lady has a problem on her hands.

According to the McSame / Bridge to Nowhere Campaign, it's all the fault of despicable mud-slinging "liberal bloggers, many with ties to the Obama campaign" for forcing them to release the pregnancy news of an otherwise properly "private family matter."

Earlier this summer there was an ad denouncing Tom Allen and starring Vince Curatola, who played Sack on The Sopranos. It implied that mobsters like Allen's support of the Employee Free Choice Act. The ad was paid for by the Coalition for a Democratic Workplace.

Allen denounced it, and so did Collins.

My guess is that that's when the promise for both parties to denounce all third-party-sponsored ads came into play.

So Palin's daughter Bristol is a healthy normal teenager like all other normal secular teenagers, she has sexual relations before getting married at 30! Too bad she didn't enjoy sound, modern sexual relationship counsel unlike other European or American liberul teenagers and she ended up being pregnant at 17. She won't enjoy the silliness and freedom-feeling of student years, hell no she'll know the joys of changing diapers and long sleepless nights, the joy of never ever having the chance to get drunk and come home at 3 am without giving a shit about tomorrow.

Well wouhou the ABC of how to screw up your life! Don't get me wrong I love my kids, I was filled with joy myself when I became father at the cynical age of 30 after having lived some crazy adventures. But had I become father at 17 (and I mean a responsible father, one who will educate and take care of his kids, not one who will have his kids raised by their grandfather), wow all the things I would have missed on and never get the joy to know...

Republicans are COWARDS.

Proclaiming the SURGE is successful... and WE ARE WINNING... are COWARDLY ACTS. Republicans KNOW that they must maintain present American troop levels to keep the peace in Baghdad. They must keep spitting out this LIE about winning... until Barack Obama moves into the White House. Then we wll ALL learn what a catastrophe this occupation has been... and THE REPUBLICANS WILL BLAME THE DEMOCRATS for all of it from January, 2009, forward.

They are COWARDS. Every last one of them.

Tom Allen is denouncing the ad but that does not stop the ad.

I live in Maine. Susan Collins is getting a lot of support ($) from Lieberman.

I will vote for Allen but he does not have a fire in his belly. Very bland.

"Help me out, why is a Democrat denouncing a VoteVets ad against his rival? Why have they not figured out that they have public sentiment with them to go hard on this Iraq issue?"

Not exactly. The general public is nowhere near as extreme and militant as VoteVets and their adherents.

joeedugan @ 26:

The fact that Bristol Palin is 5 months pregnant NOW completely discredits the rumor that she is the birth mother of her supposed 'brother', Trig.

RIIIIGGHHTT!

The logic here escapes me.

Yes, but the logistics escape me.

If we assume that she did give birth to a kid four months ago (and faking the birth-date seems kind of unlikely).. then this new pregnancy would be, at shortest, three months along and not five.

Assuming everything proceeds normally, I don't see how faking this is feasable. You can claim a baby was premature.. but two months postmature? That's ridiculous! Nor could you expect to hide the non-existent baby for two months. Even if you could, you couldn't expect people to not tell the difference between a newborn and a several month old baby?

Post American @ 4:

I was reading the blogs back in 2002, and I knew there was no threat from Iraq, I knew about the Pentagon's office of Special Plans, the Israeli Spies, the Neo Conservatives, Ahmed Chalabi.

Well just reading any news outlet except American MSM, would have been enough to know that everything the WH was feeding the public was the most delightful and exquisite bullshit.

Seen on foreign networks:
Every time Dubya spoke about Iraq WMD they had an interview following up with the UN Inspectors telling they had uncovered no proof whatsoever, rather the contrary.
Every time Cheney mentioned 9/11 they had independent experts interviewed on up explaining of how every proof the WH showed seemed bogus, and still needed to see any credible proof from the WH, while all the other proofs they had collected showed there was no tie.
And every time Rumsy came on to speak about CIA evidence, foreign networks would also follow up with intervieuws of disgrunted and well-known CIA experts screaming about how evidence was being fixed to suit their talking points and how contradictory evidence was omitted.
Every time Dubya made a photo-op after Katrina, European networks would wait for the prez and the stand-up bogus relief workers to leave, to show how salvage really was being organized.
And on global warming and on Iraq progress, and on the protection of the ministry of Oil as sole official building in Iraq (while the ministry of interior, critical for info on fantasied WMD was left open for looting as everything else in Iraq), and just asking the WH critical questions rather than pre-screened Jeff-Suckyourdickandlickyourballs-Ganon style questions, etc...

Hell, just watching the BBC would have been enough.

The only thing that hinted to me that the whole USA hadn't descended in complete retardation, was John Stewart and the daily show.

joeedugan @ 26:

The fact that Bristol Palin is 5 months pregnant NOW completely discredits the rumor that she is the birth mother of her supposed 'brother', Trig.

RIIIIGGHHTT!

The logic here escapes me.

McCain knew about her condition before he named her mom as his VP choice but didn't think it was a problem.

Again, RIIIGGGHHHTT!

Get over 'mono' and subsequently get immediately knocked up. What's with that? Very loyal boyfriend waiting five months or something else? Water breaks in Texas and then the Gov. gets on a plane for 8 (EIGHT) hours back to Alaska and then 45 minutes to hometown hospital?

All together now: RIIIGGHHTTT!

How believable is this shit? Is there a long lost evil twin thought to have died in a mysterious spelunking accident that's going to show up at some point? Is Bobby Ewing going to come out of the shower?

Remember there are TWO teen daughters, Bristol aged seventeen and Willow aged fourteen, If Willow gets mono like Bristol did (earlier in 2008) and disappears for a five month period.....
Sarah Palin announced that her hubby was giving up work and becoming a house husband when she became Gov, he rejected this and carried on working, their kids then got farmed out to relatives, one or two daughters then out of the xtain Palin sphere got knocked up...

Republican family values, foisting your spawn (and troubles) onto others, then hypocritical moralizing how the little people are so immoral.

IOKIYAR

CowBoy Bob in Austin @ 32:

Now, about Palin. I wonder if, maybe, THIS pregnancy is a smoke-screen to hide the facts of her LAST pregnancy. I wonder if there might not be an "unfortunate" mis-carraige in maybe 30 or 45 days... and all of sudden... there is no more pregnancy... and also no more speculation about the lies and mis-information surrounding the last one? I'm just wondering.

Well my American wife screamed "preggers and baby bump" at me when I showed her the Bristol pic with her cradling her belly.
And she said mono is the typical American middle class excuse to get teen girls out of school to have their babies.
In Britain girls either go get it fixed or have the kid, the only class of families that hide it like its done in the USA, are the snobby middle classes, then they farm the brat off to others.

OT and final thought on the Palin baby boom, the father of Bristol's future baby is sixteen.
They are going to need some serious support by their families

How dare you attack veterans who speak the truth about your Republican opponent.

How dare you side with the war mongers of the Republican party.

How dare you dishonor those who have died in this senseless war in Iraq.

I give money occasionally to out of state pols that need a little help. It's not much. But you will never see a penny.

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The above is a message I just sent Mr. Allen.

Dave
Viet Vet

Norse @ 41:

Palin case doesn't matter. Soon she will resign from the VP slot, the media will be in a hissy fit over the evil/hypocritic liberals who destroyed a historic ticket, and the sympathy vote goes to the kind, elderly gentleman who gave a woman a chance the democrats had refused another, and in spite, refused for Palin as well.

Could see this happening a couple days back.

Sounds more like a Rovian talking point to me.

Ruthless People @ 46:

Norse @ 41:

Palin case doesn't matter. Soon she will resign from the VP slot, the media will be in a hissy fit over the evil/hypocritic liberals who destroyed a historic ticket, and the sympathy vote goes to the kind, elderly gentleman who gave a woman a chance the democrats had refused another, and in spite, refused for Palin as well.

Could see this happening a couple days back.

Sounds more like a Rovian talking point to me.

From what I have seen earlier, thats the way it will be spun. I have made posts earlier commenting that it would be wiser to go after other issues than the child, there are enough of them, and they don't make liberals seem cruel to children, or plain gossipmongers, but I guess it was too juicy.

*shrug*

Norse @ 48:

Ruthless People @ 46:

Norse @ 41:

Palin case doesn't matter. Soon she will resign from the VP slot, the media will be in a hissy fit over the evil/hypocritic liberals who destroyed a historic ticket, and the sympathy vote goes to the kind, elderly gentleman who gave a woman a chance the democrats had refused another, and in spite, refused for Palin as well.

Could see this happening a couple days back.

Sounds more like a Rovian talking point to me.

From what I have seen earlier, thats the way it will be spun. I have made posts earlier commenting that it would be wiser to go after other issues than the child, there are enough of them, and they don't make liberals seem cruel to children, or plain gossipmongers, but I guess it was too juicy.

*shrug*

This IS and issue. So we should not expose the truth of a social conservative railing against "immora leebruls" on social issues yet whose daughter truthfully is about to have an outta wedlock baby? Sounds like the timidness of the old Democratic Party many us want to kick to the curb since it doesn't seem to do much good in winning presidential elections in the past.

...we certainly know the "celebrity of the century" crowd won't be timid in their attacks, truthful or otherwise, and they somehow manage to win presidential elections, go figure.

Post American@4:

I believe that anyone who voted for the disaster in Iraq, Republican or Democrat should step down and resign. That goes for John McCain, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, and even Joe Biden. I was reading the blogs back in 2002, and I knew there was no threat from Iraq, I knew about the Pentagon’s office of Special Plans, the Israeli Spies, the Neo Conservatives, Ahmed Chalabi. It was horrifying to see the US Military, Government, Media and the American People go American Psycho on us.
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You are absolutly right! But what could we have done? There was the apathy syndrome. There was the I never vote syndrome. There was the two losers sydrome, why voting? There was the having a beer with guy syndrome.

Iraq was not the target at any point in time. The target was the US Treasury, White House and the join power boths bring.

The whole thing was masterful "break in". Why robbing banks when we can go for the real thing. They found the right marionette-like President who promised them everything in exchange for getting to seat in the throne.

Do you realize how many hundreds of Republicans got riched in the last 8 years? And what about 9/11? It can't even be discussed freely, because some interest groups don't want to talk about it. Iraq was the target, 9/11 was the excuse.

I just spent three weeks vacations in Carpentras, a pretty small city in the Provenza, France. I got to meet a group of French people. I was invited to a "pique nicke" as they call it. I knew it was going to happen, and I could'nt avoid it. American politics was going to be discussed and there was nothing to stop it.

The Obama topic came up, McCain came up, Bush came, and Iraq of course, came up. They worked my ass out, they trashed me, and at no point in time I was able to find a valid argument to defend me, or defend my country. I tried to use 1945, and the answered was: "Thank you; you saved our asses, why can't you save yours? "

The question was: Why Americans are suffering this political stupor? Why is the Press being controlled and nobody reacts?

Why the stupefying dormant behavior of the American public. Finally, I gave up, said "I don't know" and went home, pissed. Really pissed.

Let's face it. We are a nation of imbecils.

wtlloyd @ 37:

Well, to stay ON TOPIC:

I don't have a problem with this one, according to your copy, the guy promised to denounce 3rd party ads, and is doing so.

How refreshing, keeping your word during a campaign.

I agree, but this could be another example of the Democrat gentleman losing for being a gentleman!
Lost in the Palin mess is what should be the push to support Democrat campaigns for seats in Congress.

VV isn't a proxy.

It's a "special" interest group.

I don't understad why Tom is against this ad though.

Was the boy 15 when he got her pregnant. If so it would be statuatory rape on Bristols part. :D Just kidding... i love the drama. :)

Post American @ 4:

I believe that anyone who voted for the disaster in Iraq, Republican or Democrat should step down and resign. That goes for John McCain, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, and even Joe Biden. I was reading the blogs back in 2002, and I knew there was no threat from Iraq, I knew about the Pentagon's office of Special Plans, the Israeli Spies, the Neo Conservatives, Ahmed Chalabi. It was horrifying to see the US Military, Government, Media and the American People go American Psycho on us.

As for Palin's Daughter, SHE MADE A CHOICE, HER CHOICE. Sarah Palin believes the earth was created 6,000 years ago, but doesn't believe that human beings are destroying the creating. Borrow and Spend, Borrow and Spend. What a nation...

Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people.

Maybe, the US will elect McCain/Palin and accomplish Bushie's mission, which is the destruction of the US. The US is 90% destroyed and McCain will complete the destruction 100%. Then, maybe Wall Street and the financial community will complete the mission with financial WMDs and the US will not keep starting perpetual wars for the Kleptocracy and Military-Industrial complex.

As a regular reader of the Commondreams and Alternet web sites, I knew that Saddam and Iraq didn't have any WMDs. Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden were never held responsible or accountable for their voting for the Iraq war. I never understood why Hillary was to lazy, competent or neglectful to completely read the classified and complete NIE estimated before the Iraq. Hillary also wanted to go to Iran like McCain to prevent a nuclear Iran (estimated to be 10 years away). I would have held my nose and voted for her if she had won the nomination over Obama. I dislike Biden although his 30 odd years has provided him with very little wisdom over foreign affairs. He did support one good idea of experts which was the three way partition of Iraq among the Kurds, Sunnis and Shias. Saladin was a Kurd but unfortunately there is no Kurd of that statue to vanquish the Christian oil crusaders from Iraq at the present.

With regard to the Democrats, one should never underestimate their ability to "Snatch defeat from the jaws of victory". In political battle where there is no blood and physical pain (Democratic candidates like Al Gore, John Kerry, Tom Allen and maybe Barack Obama) are afraid to engage the the GOP. These cowards would rather lose honorably than win dis-honorable. Democrat candidates like to eat like gourmets at the trough where the Republican elephants have deposited the fecal matter of their ravenous appetites.

Mike @ 63:

The question for you fauxgressives is why is VoteVets not denouncing Joe Biden for his enthusiastic support for the Iraq war?

Sen. Joe Biden a politician who, as chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, was calling for an invasion of Iraq in 1998, two years before there was a President George W. Bush. In 2002, when Bush demanded Congress give him powers to wage war against Iraq, Chairman Biden was Bush's biggest Democratic ally. Biden depicted Bush as a man of peace, declaring, "at each pivotal moment, he has chosen a course of moderation and deliberation." That course led to a war that is now deep into its fifth year - but that should not worry Joe Biden, who said, back in 2002, that the U.S. was "committing to Iraq for the long haul; not just the day after, but the decade after....

I think this is an important question since so many Obama supporters were calling Clinton a war criminal and saying that her vote made her directly responsible for the death and destruction that Bush caused in Iraq. Yet, the supposedly anti-War candidate choose the most pro-war senator as his running mate. Hypocrisy stinks, bigtime.

Mike

At the very least, I, if no one else will, must state that you are right to point out the hypocrisy of Obama in claiming, or at least the perception in being, an anti-war candidate. Both Obama and his bellicose running mate Biden cannot legitimately make that claim when they wish to leave approximately 32,000 to 80,000 American forces in Iraq even after Obama's phased [as opposed to immediate] withdrawal finally takes place. Biden, like Obama. also wishes to increase the military budget of the United States, which already has the largest defense budget of almost all other countries combined. It should also be pointed out that both of these Democratic war hawks wish, not to take out, but rather to ADD more troops into Afghanistan, which can only add more death and destruction to the Afghan people.

Democrats cave to republican bullies?

They have too, they are the GOP's enablers.

Why do they cave? Same reason Obama's camp let the Phil Gramm "whiner's" comment go, without making a peep about it. They think the American people can't handle the truth.