Media Starts Asking If Palin Should Leave Ticket
In this afternoon's New York Times story on the Sarah Palin (R) insanity today was this sentence:
Gov. Mark Sanford of South Carolina said that he had heard no discussion about removing Ms. Palin from the ticket.
Sometimes, it's the questions being asked that are more important than the answers.
Expect the drumbeat to get louder as the media starts doing the vetting the McCain campaign didn't bother to do. Certainly, membership in a secessionist party doesn't help. Marc Ambinder:
The Alaska Independence Party calls itself the third largest organization in the United States. Its platform calls for the defense of "states rights," to "seek the complete repatriation of the public lands, held by the federal government, to the state and people of Alaska in conformance with Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17, of the federal constitution."
Basically, the AIP wants a vote on secession. According to the organizations' website. "[T]hough it is widely thought to be a secessionist movement, the Party makes great effort to emphasize that its primary goal is merely a vote on secession, something that Party advocates say Alaskans were denied during the founding of the state."
In the meantime, Palin has lawyered up over Troopergate and has yet to teach her family message control:
(Sarah Palin's mother in law) Faye Palin admitted she enjoys hearing Barack Obama speak, and still hasn't decided which way she'll vote. [..]
"I'm not sure what she brings to the ticket other than she's a woman and a conservative. Well, she's a better speaker than McCain," Faye Palin said with a laugh.



Finally a MSM meme that hurts the repubs. As long as the MSM keeps questioning (even in an unbiased manner) McCain's vetting of Palin, the question itself implies she is unfit.
Waitaminit! She's an Inuit?
NO,NO,NO!!!! Don't ditch the eye-candy! And how will we be able to keep up with the soap opera?
"has yet to teach her family message control"
Since when is that a bad thing? Or was it merely an observation?
A little historical perspective -- McCain’s Folly: ‘Bought’ Alaska Governor From Right-Wingers at the Cost of His Candidacy
Actually, if you go to the AIP website, it says right there on the front page that it's number 2 goal is to become an independent nation. So whoever said that they "just want a vote" is not being completely honest.
Blockbuster NY Times piece on the Sarah Palin vetting disaster
http://www.americablog.com/200.....tting.html
WHITE TRASH ALERT!!! WHITE TRASH ALERT!!! WHITE TRASH ALERT!!!
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/8440/dqwdewvp4.png
Not "if", but "when".
McCain must be popping valiums three at time.
LOLOL! So now...the GOP is talking about dumping her...AND...of course they aren't going to replace her with another woman...they can't...it would be too obvious that they are pandering...which is what they were doing all along.
I hope every woman in America is watching this fiasco. The GOP just can't get past their inherent sexism...it's in their DNA.
Hahahaha Thanks mama Faye.
Iraq a task from God! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/palins-church-may-have-sh_n_123... this should quell tensions in a muslim country we invaded for no reason other than to steal oil.
Haven't we been down this road before with Bush saying the Iraq war was a "crusade"? Palin is the wrong person at the wrong time to be a heat beat away from the presidency.
Limbaugh is losing his mind on the radio! LOLOL!
"In the meantime, Palin has lawyered up over Troopergate and has yet to teach her family message control: "
Abstinence before marriage is for your kids not mine!
Trial lawyers are for me not you!
Sarah Palin isn't Hillary Clinton.
The McCain campaign didn't even attempt to put a veneer atop their pandering to Clinton supporters.
Knee-jerk reactionary decision making is dangerous.
They've already attempted to conflate the candidates on the issues.
Learn the difference and vote smart.
www.SarahPalinISNTHillaryClinton.com
Please oh please oh please keep Harriet Myers on the ticket!!!!
Was Palin a part of the radical rightwing Alaska Independence Party?
Thankfully, Detective Jonah Goldberg is on this case.
About this allegation that Palin was a member of the Alaska Independence Party. At first I thought it was a big deal or at least a potential big deal. But, upon inspection it seems much less serious. For starters, it seems she was never a member. She’s been a registered Republican since 1982.
Okay, but lots of people are making a big deal about her address to the party convention. Okay, so I checked out the video. Eh.
Fair enough, but Goldberg’s youtube link was this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvPNXYrIyI.
It’s a mundane link but it also provides another link to an AIP meeting featuring Dexter Clark.
(www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHFY1otOWjQ).
Six minutes into the AIP Dexter Clark video, he announces to the group that Gov. Sarah Palin was a former AIP member. It’s pretty clear and in fact he provides a history of her rise through Alaskan politics for the members.
Somebody needs to tell McCain that vetting is different than betting. He bet heavily on Palin to lasso the evangelical, right
wing, womens' vote without vetting the monsterous baggage she totes. Oops! That's just the sort of mavericky decisons we
can look forward to should he step foot into the oval office.
Considering that Palin and McCain obviously support this:
http://www.indybay.org/uploads/2008/09/01/pepper.mpg
I think they BOTH need to go...., along with the entire Republican party!
If the higher-ups in the Republican Party honestly condone this type of gestapo police presence and tactics at their convention, then we all need to work not only to elect Obama/Biden (at least in Denver the cops gave the Veterans Against the War in Iraq a police ESCORT instead of a police THRASHING!!), but we need to forcefully speak out against the militarism that is engulfing our free speech rights.
The MSM needs to confront McCain and Palin and ask if they approve of these militaristic, undemocratic and un-Constitutional tactics being used at their convention right now!!!
"Where's the eject button?!?!?!" - John McCain
Someone must have put Michael Palin's international credentials on wiki and McSame's daughters friends computer geek thought they were getting an intelligent person that has some experience in world affairs. It is getting easier to discern who is ignorant and who is challenged.
I'm wondering who in the world would want to be second choice for GOP VP after this Palin fiasco....
She would be a hard act to follow and try to clean up afterwards....
McCain is in a tight spot and there is no way he can squirm out of the responsibility of choosing this albatross...
Geesh...
sharkcellar @ 2:
No
An idiot
Liberal AND Proud @ 20:
"If I surrender to the Democratic Party...will I get healthcare and cigarettes?" - John McCain
Extra bonus: Really crazy-ass preacher
Palin's Church May Have Shaped Controversial Worldview
Three months before she was thrust into the national political spotlight, Gov. Sarah Palin was asked to handle a much smaller task: addressing the graduating class of commission students at her one-time church, Wasilla Assembly of God.
Her speech in June provides as much insight into her policy leanings as anything uncovered since she was asked to be John McCain's running mate.
Speaking before the Pentecostal church, Palin painted the current war in Iraq as a messianic affair in which the United States could act out the will of the Lord.
"Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God," she exhorted the congregants. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."
Religion, however, was not strictly a thread in Palin's foreign policy. It was part of her energy proposals as well. Just prior to discussing Iraq, Alaska's governor asked the audience to pray for another matter -- a $30 billion national gas pipeline project that she wanted built in the state. "I think God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that," she said.
Palin's address, much of which was spent reflecting on the work of the church in which she grew up and was baptized, underscores the notion that her world view is deeply impacted by religion. In turn, her remarks raise important questions: mainly, what is Palin's faith and how exactly has it influenced her policies?
A review of recorded sermons by Ed Kalnins, the senior pastor of Wasilla Assembly of God since 1999, offers a provocative and, for some, eyebrow-raising sketch of Palin's longtime spiritual home
The church runs a number of ministries providing help to poor neighborhoods, care for children in need, and general community services. But Pastor Kalnins has also preached that critics of President Bush will be banished to hell; questioned whether people who voted for Sen. John Kerry in 2004 would be accepted to heaven; charged that the 9/11 terrorist attacks and war in Iraq were part of a war "contending for your faith;" and said that Jesus "operated from that position of war mode."
It is impossible to determine how much Wasilla Assembly of God has shaped Palin's thinking. She was baptized there at the age of 12 and attended the church for most of her adult life. When Palin was inaugurated as governor, the founding pastor of the church delivered the invocation. In 2002, Palin moved her family to a nondenominational church, but she continues to worship at a related Assembly of God church in Juneau.
Moreover, she "has maintained a friendship with Wasilla Assembly of God and has attended various conferences and special meetings here," Kalnins' office said in a statement. "As for her personal beliefs," the statement added, "Governor Palin is well able to speak for herself on those issues."
Clearly, however, Palin views the church as the source of an important, if sometimes politically explosive, message. "Having grown up here, and having little kids grow up here also, this is such a special, special place," she told the congregation in June. "What comes from this church I think has great destiny."
And if the political storm over Barack Obama's former pastor Jeremiah Wright is any indication, Palin may face some political fallout over the more controversial teachings of Wasilla Assembly of God.
If the church had a political alignment, it would almost surely be conservative. In his sermons, Kalnins did not hide his affections for certain national politicians.
During the 2004 election season, he praised President Bush's performance during a debate with Sen. John Kerry, then offered a not-so-subtle message about his personal candidate preferences. "I'm not going tell you who to vote for, but if you vote for this particular person, I question your salvation. I'm sorry." Kalnins added: "If every Christian will vote righteously, it would be a landslide every time."
Months after hinting at possible damnation for Kerry supporters, Kalnins bristled at the treatment President Bush was receiving over the federal government's handling of Hurricane Katrina. "I hate criticisms towards the President," he said, "because it's like criticisms towards the pastor -- it's almost like, it's not going to get you anywhere, you know, except for hell. That's what it'll get you."
Much of his support for the current administration has come in the realm of foreign affairs. Kalnins has preached that the 9/11 attacks and the invasion of Iraq were part of a "world war" over the Christian faith, one in which Jesus Christ had called upon believers to be willing to sacrifice their lives.
As for his former congregant and current vice presidential candidate, Kalnins has asserted that Palin's election as governor was the result of a "prophetic call" by another pastor at the church who prayed for her victory. "[He made] a prophetic declaration and then unfolds the kingdom of God, you know."
Even Palin expressed surprise at that pastor's advocacy for her candidacy. "He was praying over me," she said in June. "He's praying, 'Lord make a way, Lord make a way...' And I'm thinking, this guy's really bold, he doesn't even know what I'm gonna do, he doesn't know what my plans are, and he's praying not, 'Oh Lord, if it be your will may she become governor,' or whatever. No, he just prayed for it. He said, 'Lord, make a way, and let her do this next step.' And that's exactly what happened. So, again, very very powerful coming from this church."
In his sermons, Pastor Kalnins has also expressed beliefs that, while not directly political, lie outside of mainstream Christian thought.
He preaches repeatedly about the "end times" or "last days," an apocalyptic prophesy held by a small but vocal group of Christian leaders. During his appearance with Palin in June, he declared, "I believe Alaska is one of the refuge states in the last days, and hundreds of thousands of people are going to come to the state to seek refuge and the church has to be ready to minister to them."
He also claims to have received direct "words of knowledge" from God, providing him information about past events in other people's lives. During one sermon, he described being paired with a complete stranger during a golf outing. "I said, I'm a minister from Alaska and I want you to know that your wife left you -- you know that your wife left you and that the Lord is gonna defend you in a very short time, and it wasn't your fault. And the man drops his clubs, he literally was about to tee off and he dropped his clubs, and he says, 'Who the blank are you?' And I says, 'well, I'm a minister.' He says, 'how do you know about my life? What do you know?' And I started giving him more of the word of knowledge to his life and he was freaked out."
Kalnins has, of course, preached on a bevy of topics ranging from humility to "overcoming bitterness." But the more controversial remarks reported above were not out of the norm, appearing in numerous sermons spanning the four years of available recordings.
As for Palin, her views on these topics is more opaque. In the wake of the controversy over Jeremiah Wright, a debate has raged about whether political figures should be held responsible for the comments of their religious guiders. Clearly, however, Kalnins, like many national conservative religious leaders, sees Alaska's governor as one of his own. "Gov. Sarah Palin is the real deal," he told his church this past summer. "You know, some people put on a show...but she's the real deal."
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This is going to be one of those CLASSIC Daily Show, Colbert Report nights.
If only Countdown was not being preempted by the GOP convention...we'd have the trifecta!
Here we go. Is this part of Karl's plan. Pull in a few hundred thousand votes while Romney or Lieberman move into Pallins spot. Possibly all part of the plan
We should hope that the McGaffe/Palinbarbie ticket remains. It's the best chance to NOT have a continuation of Bush/Dick policy.
Liberal AND Proud @ 13:
ALL of the rw talkers are going ballistic about this. It's so wonderful. Just listened to a few minutes of Hannity (all I can take) and he's going apeshit! It's about friggin' time these slimeballs get what's coming to them.
This is the Harriet Meyers of Presidential Campaigns.
Kathleen @ 27:
Yeah. Now Obama will only win by 9 percentage points.
In national politics...6% is considered a landslide.
Ruthless People @ 12:
That's quite an interesting observation since she has made both statements: that the Iraqi war is about oil and religion. Some reputable reporter should as her about those mutally exclusive statements.
Liberal AND Proud @ 26:
Correct. The Daily Show and Colbert Report writers have been creaming in their pants to get their punchlines on the air.
Gonzales in more hot water
theWalrus @ 29:
As if it's a stretch for Sean (the moron) to go apeshit. He's a goon and a baffoon.
Palin, the VP choice that keeps giving. Leave her in there.
**WOW the truth came out!**
Rick Davis, campaign manager for John McCain's presidential bid, insisted that the presidential race will be decided more over personalities than issues during an interview with Post editors this morning.
"This election is not about issues," said Davis. "This election is about a composite view of what people take away from these candidates."
Kathleen @ 27:
Just what I said on another thread. You can't put this down to repub idiocy. If he wasn't involved before, the spin on this one will definitely be all Rove.
is that last part about the mom a joke?
Palin's future son-in law Levi for VP:
'I'm a f--kin' redneck who likes to snowboard and ride dirt bikes. But I live to play hockey. I like to go camping and hang out with the boys, do some fishing, shoot some s--t and just f--kin' chillin' I guess. Ya f--k with me I'll kick ass."
Status: "In a relationship.''
Children: "I don't want kids.'' link
Some Con shill was talking to Andrea Mitchell and said that LIEberman was McBush's first choice but the UltraCons would have stayed home on election day if he did. He also said LIEberman could very well end up being Secretary of State or Secretary of Defense if McBush is elected. How fucking scary is that thought?
Let McCain KEEP Palin!
Yes. It's a stupid thing to do. But the more idiotic things McCain does, the more likely Obama will be our next president!
Here's the hockey player "Daddy" of Sarah Palin's daughter's baby:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/republican_race/2008/09/01/2008...
I guess "Statutory Rape" doesn't apply in Alaska.
The "Daddy" is proud to exclaim that he considers himself "a Fuc*in' Redneck!"
God. I'll bet there isn't a whole lot of work getting done in America's offices today! This story just gets better and better.
It reminds me of Maureen Dowd's Op-Ed in this past Sunday's New York Times. Here's a tiny excerpt (after John McCain chokes on a pretzel and dies leaving Palin Prez):
"The movie ends with the former beauty queen shaking out her pinned-up hair, taking off her glasses, slipping on ruby red peep-toe platform heels that reveal a pink French-style pedicure, and facing down Vladimir Putin in an island in the Bering Strait. Putting away her breast pump, she points her rifle and informs him frostily that she has some expertise in Russia because it's close to Alaska. "Back off, Commie dude," she says. "I'm a much better shot than Cheney."
And so it goes....
Keep her around. Lots more coming about Palin which will make the Repugs hair stand up
Kathleen @ 27:
I don't think, if that is indeed Rove's plan...that's it's working like he'd hoped.
Gretchen the aspiring elitist @ 38:
The result of this may be that we finally have three political parties. The GOP brand is destroyed...their party is so splintered they may have to form two new parties. I hear that the names...Whigs and Tories are available.
I kind of hope he dumps her. Then his so-called sound judgement will be called into question even more than when he picked her.
Charles @ 35:
Apeshit how?
Charles @ 35:
Perhaps you meant buffoon? It still rhymes with goon.
He's a goon
And a buffoon
He croons
But one tune
That of a right wing loon
Did I mention he is a Reptile?
Carol @ 43:
The Republicans are in a complete tizzy and in desperate need of relief...the stalls at the GOP convention are all occupato.
Freddy Knuckles @ 46:
Muskie dumped Eagleton and it cost him the election.
Nikola @ 4:
McCain himself has pretty lousy family message control. Where is his adopted (and dark-skinned) adopted daughter in the People mag photo making the Internet rounds? What is the matter with these people? Are his handlers convincing him to pretend she does not exist? Adopting and raising her is an admirable thing except among the racist voters it appears they are trying to court. Shameful.
The maverick needs to take control! Where is his leadership! Where is he?!?!
Filthy Harry @ 47:
He was screaming that we smell blood in the water....it's all lies...the Media wants Obama to win...he calls him "Barak Apollo Obama"....whine, whine, whine....LOL!
Freddy Knuckles @ 40:
Considering Lieberman put all his eggs in the McCain basket and will be the junior senator from CT with only a seat on the Committee for Overseeing Absolutely Nothing, IF he's lucky, if Obama wins, then I bet HE is the one who is really wringing his hands about all this.
This is saving Obama both money (no need to run ads against McCain) and good-will. They can just stand back and watch the MSM go after the McCain camp. With the information coming out about Palin, I expect to start seeing her on the National Enquirer and Access Hollywood.
What a disaster for Republicans and McCain.....
Just saying (again) at the point this becomes a laughing matter and a joke, she's gone! The whole day is about her and Republicans have exhausted their excuses.
I'm laughing at them now and think I'll be laughing with them soon.
McBush voted against money for teen abstinence. The irony is so thick you could almost hit a Republican across the back of the head with it.
Aw c'mon. Let the leggy Alaskan douchebag stay on the ticket.
Cobsjo @ 37:
So what else is new? Bush was elected because half the voters felt he was the kind of guy they could have a beer with. Then they elected him again when he failed to deliver on his campaign promises. Who cares about issues?
Liberal AND Proud @ 20:
Oh no! He's crashing another one!! what is that, 4?
damnit...she cant leave the ticket
turn on hannity...he is gonna bust a blood vessel
this is the best political theater since watergate
have you guys seen the pics that were grabbed from the levi's sis myspace?
if not...check this out
http://cajunboy.tumblr.com/
if either president obama or a president mccain could
NOT serve as of june/'09 which vice president would you feel more comfortable with stepping in to serve as commander in chief Biden or Palin?
this scenario could happen......i would like to see a poll on this.
Why does Gov. Palin hate America? She must if she is a member of a group that wants to secede from the Union.
xoites defends Constitution @ 51:
Actually Eagleton withdrew from the McGovern ticket and was replaced by Sargent Shriver.
in a way i almost feel sorry for them (almost). they have sooooo painted themselves into a corner with this choice that there is no good way out for them. every hour brings forth some new revelation of her faaaaaaaaaaaar right leanings which may have bought mcsame some credit with the "base" but is going to start bleeding moderates fast.
Freddy Knuckles @ 47:
He wouldn't dump her. She'd withdraw gracefully to 'spend more time with her (fertile) family'. He'd then bemoan his loss of her awesomeness while applauding her courage for 'doing the right thing' then finally picking someone comparatively sane.
xoites defends Constitution @ 50:
Actually I don't care what he does. Have called McCains judgement into question for months.
Filthy Harry @ 48:
I was under the assumption that Limbaugh and Hannity had already lost their minds. Oh, never mind. It was their souls they sold out long ago. OK. Never mind, carry on.
theWalrus @ 65:
Oh that's right. Muskie lost because he cried.
Put her mother-in-law on the ticket.
The Mccain campaign is trying to make this criticism of her be about her being a woman. To me her being a woman has nothing to do with the problems I see with her. If she were a man and everything else remained the same, he would still be horribly unprepared for the job of president if some event caused Mccain to become unable to continue as president.
They are trying to create some sort of vibe that Hillary was terribly mistreated by the dems and Obama in particular and saying, Look at what they are trying to do to Sarah, the same thing they did to Hillary. Therefore the dems don't like or respect women.
They are already saying Biden must go easy on her in the debate. I call bullshit on that. When you come into the arena everyone enters on the same basis. It's an insult to women to say he should go easy on her. If she wants to be equal then she has to take equal punches when they are thrown.
“I’m not sure what she brings to the ticket other than she’s a woman and a conservative. Well, she’s a better speaker than McCain,” Faye Palin said with a laugh.
Holy shite, Mrs. Palin! I bet Sunday dinners at your house from now on are going to be pure hell, if they weren't already...
No, no, no...we need this wingnut on the ticket as long as possible, cause it seems it's gonna take more dumbass shit such as this to get people to pay attention to just how crazy Repugs truly are.
jdowd @ 39:
Nope! But it is a gift!
Yew Leeve Lil Sarie Jane ALONE, yew satanist scum!
Shay's the sahn of th'LORD's own marcee. Shay'll drahv yew librul, GAWD-hatin' fags outta Jaysus' timple thar in Warshinton, Day Say. Shay weee-ulll...
Palin: 2005: board member, Valley Hospital Association, which runs the Mat-Su Regional Medical Center in Wasilla.
Became youngest and first female Governor of Alaska, taking office in December, 2006. Received 114,600 votes. The population of Alaska is 683,478 and more than 50% of the state budget comes from oil revenues, not taxes as in other states. Gross State Product: $44 billion (including the oil revenue). Ranking 45 of 50.
Auctioned off the Governor's jet on eBay. Took on fellow-Republican Senator Ted Stevens to come clean about the federal investigation into his financial dealings. Promoted oil and natural gas resource development in Alaska. Helped pass a tax increase on oil company profits. Formed a sub-cabinet group of advisers to address climate change but does not accept that it is man-made. Objected to listing polar bears as an endangered species because it might hurt oil and gas development in the bears' habitat. Was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it. However, Alaska kept the federal money. Denied her daughter was pregnant before she confirmed it. Supported abstinence-only education.Currently under a bipartisan investigation for abuse of power for dismissing Alaska's Public Safety Commissioner. Commander-in-Chief of the Alaska National Guard, but has played no role in national defense activities, even when they involve the Alaska National Guard. (The entire operation is under federal control, and the governor is not briefed on situations.)
Obtained her first passport in 2007 to perform visits to the Alaska National Guard in Kuwait and Germany. (Foreign experience so limited that a stopover in Ireland listed on her resume.)
Uncle Joe Mccarthy @ 62:
LOLOLOL! ROFLMFAO!!! LOLOL!
No no...you can't...you really can't make this shit up! This is freakin' hysterical.
What a travesty!
"I love the smell of a dying Repuglican Party in the morning...smells like......victory"
Gretchen the aspiring elitist @ 69:
I never listen to Rush, what is he saying about her? And Hannity, does he like or dislike her?
Here's "The Red State Update" on Sarah Palin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W5IAPK0hbU
Ha. They beat Hillary Clinton's head against rocks for 15 years. You name it, they claimed it. This woman can't be out after three days in the circus. Calling Hillary a "whiner" when youve barely taken your first public beating? Not very smart.
Let's be honest McCain will never remove Ms. Palin from the ticket. It's proves Obama's point about McCain's judgement.
Be prepared to hear it's "sexism" or just more lies and pandering.
Eric Kleefeld at TPM picks up on this new gender card strategy being utilized by Republicans when talking about/defending Palin.
The way Bachmann calls Carville's comments offensive to women so calmly, authoritatively with a big smile and the way she comes close to sending Carville over the edge in his response; the charge is so baseless yet she says it with such conviction as only a shameless Republican can, thus leaving the Democrat sort of exasperated.
video
pissed off patricia @ 72:
LOL. Of course he is...it's all he has left.
Are you ladies paying attention....the GOP is about to infantilize you again.
Wow, the same media that spread every lie and rumor about Hillary that the Obamabots fed them, I am shocked.
Oh, no, P-OP, it's NOTHING to do with her being a woman.
Though her being a "woman"--that is, a self-conscious avatar for the ticket, which her mom's remarks imply--does seem to make some of her positions more execrable, nest paw?
constituent @ 77:
Oh, she has not even been Governor for two years yet.
Frybread @ 64:
She also hates the freedoms we are guaranteed in the US of Murika...
"Stein says that as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. "She asked the library how she could go about banning books," he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. "The librarian was aghast." That woman, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn't be reached for comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire Baker for not giving "full support" to the mayor."
Why stop at 'banning' you twat. How about a good old fashioned Fahrenheit 451 BURNING?
pissed off patricia @ 72:
Argh!! Nothing pisses me off more than the "go easy on the little lady" line of shit. When I worked as a rescue medic I was expected to do the same job as the men, period. We're talking a heartbeat away from POTUS and they're saying Biden has to go easy on her??
Sweet Moses in a basket. If I wasn't drinking already I'd be starting now.
Filthy Harry @ 67:
but even if she backs out, it still says he chose someone who wasn't up to the job. there is no good way out for them on this.
miss_kitty @ 59:
Maybe this is a Rovian plot to keep attention away from the Bush record and McSame's big hug?
Who cares to watch them while the Jerry Springer Show has Palin on?
Johnny @ 84:
Stop blaming Obama or his supporters. What Hillary suffered at the hands of the conservatives was about 1000x worse. It wasnt Obama people writing a book every 18 months for 15 years claiming that she was the daughter of satan.
Hey folks Pallin has been successfully used to distract from Obama's efforts to unite. We have 6o some days before the election (hopefully not another selection). What are folks doing in their neck of the woods to get Obama elected? We need to push hard!
Geez...do they have her withdraw on the second day of their convention? LOL! You can't make it up.
Where does she do it? On the floor of the convention? Does she use the old..."in the best interests of the party" speech...does she use the "I need to be home for my family" excuse...ooops...can't use that...she'd have to resign the governorship.
No one wins here. She is done politically. McCain is done politically. The GOP looks like an even bigger bunch of rank amateurs.
Gawwwd...even I couldn't dream up a scenario this bad!
xoites defends Constitution @ 51:
Muskie got emotional over one of Tricky Dick's dirty tricks and it cost him the nomination which went to McGovern.
That was the Reptile's game plan, get the weakest guy nominated.
The major Dem Prospects wouldn't sign on for Veep, they thought it was a lost cause and McGovern went with Eagleton.
Eagleton had had hospitalizations which had included shock therapy. The press flurry led him to withdraw as VP candidate.
McGovern had already been done in by Tricky Dick so, at least in my mind, the Eagleton matter was only a small part of his loss.
Kathleen @ 92:
I don't know about the rest of you but McCain is doing all HE can.
Gozer @ 8:
i cant tell if the blonde is his sis, or some other skank he was bangin
i want this to go on a bit longer, cuz you know one of these kids uploaded a racy vid
ya baby....good, clean christian values
miss_kitty @ 59:
Such language, miss kitty!
ok ok...I gotta use the line...I LOVE when you talk dirty! LOLOL!
Kidddding...kidding!!!!
We need a title for this Palin soap opera we are watching daily.
Is the Coast Clear?--- @ 22:
Lieberman would do it. I would hazard to guess that pretty much all of the usual suspects would tuck the last bit of self respect they possess into some dark place for a chance to be one breath away from the presidency.
I can just picture Rick Santorum tripping over the pack to get to the front of the line.
Frybread @ 64:
now that i dont hold against her
ive been fighting for cali to secede for years
we pay more into taxes than we get back
infact, we paid for that 27 mil that went to wasilla
palin is the pork barrel queen
shes a welfare mama
If these dangerous bastards weren't war criminals, I'd be laughing too, but........
....oh screw it. BWAAAHAAAAHAAAA!!!
Alice X - (Chomsky Nader) - status quObama - change you can pretend in - @ 94:
Thank you for the refresher course. I was on the verge of becoming aware of national politics when all this happened. I remember it as you state it now. I was 15 at the time.
It all doesn't matter. Bushco will declare martial law at some point.
Hasn't this been the plan all along? Get Lieberman into place by having him "rescue" the party from an unfit first selection?
Sarah Palin has made her unwed pregnant daughter the centerpiece of her campaign.
What kind of parent would put their child in such a situation?
What kind of Presidential Candidate would put his running mate's family in the spotlight under these known circumstances?
BillD @ 103:
No he won't.
we can't let up on governor palin say what you want this is the weak link currently. this reflects mccain's judgement. they will try to say it's because the nominee is a woman. that's nonsense. i would have been pleased with clinton as the (D) v.p. the gender of this candidate is NOT relevant. she is NOT ready day #1/'heartbeat away scenario. with mccain's age the probability of the v.p. stepping in is more possible than it ever has been. with conflicts in iraq,possiblyiran,afghanistan,n.korea
russia and west africa.
No this will be obvious weakness to the american people and the world. when national security is talked about daily.......and put a freshman governor of a state population wise and she has the responsibility of shared parenting of 4 children.......please explain this to me i don't get it.......not real bright.
pissed off patricia @ 98:
Palin Around With McCain
The Political TramPalin
Honey, They Shrunk My Nominee
e.c. @ 89:
Yes, everyone know she was booted and McCain will be damaged, er.. more damaged for the whole episode. And I feel good about that.
pissed off patricia @ 98:
well, juno was already taken
so is all my children
i just talked to a writer client of mine...she said that even she couldnt have come up with a better script
my god, this is gonna make a great movie
if i was a producer in hollywood, i would be hightailin it over to alaska to sign the entire family up for a reality series
this is just brilliant
NOOO! Don't let this book burning, flat earth, oil gobbling, hypocritical separatist go! We need her this year for the good of the party!
(the Democratic Party, that is)
casper46 @ 3:
Please please please John! Sarah! Don't bail out before Saturday night! I want to watch Tina Fey play you on SNL!. I bet Tina's salivating over the chance to portay you as mayor asking the librarian how to ban books.
Just picture Sarah cornering the librarian at a mooseburger cookout and pointing to the grill: "can't you just burn 'em there???"
This thing's a train wreck -- no doubt about it. Besides calling McSame's "judgement" into question, it's mostly a good thing for Obama, IMO. The bad thing is that no matter if she gets bumped from the ticket or not, Grandpa has put the spotlight on exactly the kind of run-of-mill Fundie Activist that I have to deal with day in and day out in Bama. You wait and see... Ms. Palin will become a darling of the far right and we'll have to endure her on the national stage again in the future... She'll be more polished and prepared next time around, but still dangerous...
Liberal AND Proud @ 108:
Mrs. Mom discovers America.
Everyone knock off the "she ought to be bumped from the ticket" talk. We want her on the ticket. She really is their Hillary Clinton - someone who utterly disgusts the opposing party and will effectively drive opposition turnout, while simultaneously irritating the shit out of large portions of their base and motivating them to stay home due to the lack of palatable choices. I heart Palin.
Uncle Joe Mccarthy @ 110:
If someone presented this as a script to some studio executive, they'd get thrown out of the office.
No one would believe it.
Just remember Palin, knowing that her daughter was unwed and pregnant, decided to take this spot on the ticket and basically threw her daughter's privacy under the bus to get it. It was the Palins who came out and announced their daughter's condition. They are the ones who made this known nation wide.
pissed off patricia @ 72:
thanks for your entry.....i will speak for myself. i honestly don't care about gender i would have accepted hillary clinton pres. or v.p. palin is NOT ready to be president day#1 if mccain couldn't serve due to illness let's same scenario but obama has to step down i feel biden could serve day#1.
it's important that woman speak up and not be used.
pissed off patricia @ 98:
Land of the Midnight Son
Bull Moose Party
Sarah's Ready are You?
Noooooo! I want more Caribou Barbie, more snowbillies , please!!! What a comedic break.
I'm sorry, but Palin deserves a political kick in the "Cindy McCain" for this. What a dumbo. She is no Hillary Clinton. Hilz would destroy this woman in a debate then use her skin as pant suit.
xoites defends Constitution @ 106:
I don't know what will happen but if you think Bush Co. won't use the presidency and the entire executive branch to tilt the election to McCain, you haven't been paying attention to the last 8 years. Terror alerts, terror attacks and war are all to be expected soon. In fact the current dust-up between Georgia and Russia that threatens to re-ignite the cold-war (oh the neocons are masturbating to that) can be reasonably fitted into the conspiracy theory since it was the Bush admin's handling of Georgia that led to the whole thing.
she and her breeding brood should be kicked out of the country for successionism.
Gawwd...I have tears rolling down my eyes. This is so freakin' funny! LOL!
The GOP have turned our politics into a total three ring circus.
Uncle Joe Mccarthy @ 111:
First thing that came to my mind for a title was, As the Moose-burger Flips
1st book that must be banned? Tropic of Cancer!
2nd? Lady Chatterley's Lover!
3rd? The Da Vinci Code!
4th? The Harry Potter series!
5th? The Constitution!
6th? My Pet Muskox!
pissed off patricia @ 118:
Agreed, I point this out whenever a repub troll tries to blame libs for attacking Palin's daughter.
Oopsie:
I got, "she and her breeding brood should be kicked out of the country for successionism"
confused, between two sentences she and her breeding brood should be kicked out of the country for seccessionism
And they plain suck.
Alice X - (Chomsky Nader) - status quObama - change you can pretend in - @ 94:
mcgovern was done in by a bunch of things, including the the southern strategy and the dems for nixon....but eagleton was a huge fuckup...which of course would never happen again, as when it comes to mental health issues, we are much more liberal...i mean we put a total nutjob into the wh for 8 years
but trust me...she wont withdraw
she has every wingnut talker on her side
its the bad liberal bloggers that are causing all the probs
note this...it was liberal bloggers that got the msm to investigate into palin
had we not pushed the rumor (started by repugs in alaska) that trig aint her kid...none of this wouldve come about
take a bow people
and fuck the kossacks and their high and mighty idealism
Why are liberals impregnating Sarah Palin's daughter and making Sarah join seperatist groups? Bad liberals! Bad!
You know somehow its all our fault.
From Americablog:
Good times... good times.
lj @ 120:
Another World.
Jay11 @ 102:
....Better to laugh than cry...McPOW is scary. GRANDPA IS DUMBER THAN DUBYA!
bubba @ 130:
No..it's Bill Clinton's fault. ; 0 )
xoites defends Constitution @ 87:
nope..........but i will say she must be tough. was pregnant 9 months of the 14 months she serving gov of alaska and shared parenting of 3-4 other kids...wow
supr human i wonder if the governor position is very tough....maybe opeing those checks from the oil companies is tough work.
lj @ 91:
Rove has already praised McCain for his pick. He said it was genius! Rove needs to lay off the inflammatory rhetoric.
Is the Coast Clear?--- @ 22:
Next in Line? Sam Alito, iirc...oh, yeah, he's gotta gig...ummmm
Seriously, from a propaganda pov, this has been win/win for Mc(shitst)ain. But, on friday, he mainly trampled all up-and-down-and-right-and-left-and-ALL-THE-FUCK OVER Obama's post convention bump with the announcement and the attendant astonishment.
Maybe Cindy will replace Sarah on the ticket.
I've heard some say on MSNBC that they will bet she will be gone in a month and McCain will annouce a new VP. His people were afraid of a revolt at the convention and having the media pick it up during their party time in Minn. would kill the GOP.
IF she is cut loose I will bet he will put Liberman or Ridge in as HE wanted and not what his people wanted. Tells me he cowards to those around him and his judgment is flawed BIG TIME. How could this man who would have to make more HUGE decisions as President be allowed to take office??????????
Also I heard somone from a large newspaper say that her kids did not know when they were jetting to Ohio that their mother was the VP pick. They thought they were going to celebrate their parents anniversary. They were told as they got to Ohio.
That is a hell of way to put a 17 yr. old unwed pregnant girl on the spot knowing full well her condition would be made public to the WHOLE United States.
Seems to me power trumps family with sarah palin. Not good family values as I see it.
Filthy Harry @ 122:
I am sure he will do everything he can. Declaring martial law is not one of those things.
Liberal AND Proud @ 134:
I shouldn't... but I cant resist: It can't be Bill's fault since he'll only do oral outside the marriage.
Liberal AND Proud @ 124:
aint it great
but hey...obama just announced that his mom had him when she was 18
see...everything is equal
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
i love hannity
whos head explodes first...loofa boy, hannity or el dumbo?
Frybread @ 64:
Huh wait... whaaat? Hey no fair!! If Alaska gets to be its own country then California does too!
McCain spokeman Brian Rogers denies that Palin was a membeer of the Independence Party.
Well, there's always THIS:
http://thecrazynewsblog.com/2008/09/02/sarah-palin-palin-nude-photo-scan...
Sarah Palin Nude Photo Scandal? <--- Typical TV news chyron, eh?
Filthy Harry @ 141:
NOOOO...you are NOT gonna goad me into making a Palin remark on that one! I won't!!
xoites defends Constitution @ 102:
I was 23. I remember very clearly standing in line on primary election day in Michigan. In those days Ann Arbor was still considered a 'liberal bastion'. A dear friend of mine who was just graduating from law school came up to me. I said I was voting for McGovern. He said: 'don't do it, he can't win, vote for Muskie.' I think he said Muskie. This friend was a brilliant person and a true left winger, but eminently pragmatic.
There are many parallels between Tricky Dick and Bush, except Bush is far worse.
John Dean calls Bush 'Nixon without the competence'.
At least in those days there was an opposition party.
Now we have the Republicrats.
Who are you going to call?
Can we get Palin replaced with Joe droopy dog Liberman?
thepoetryman @ 136:
yeah.......genius because he said it is. this is a huge RISK after obama's convention they decided to go all in.
Liberal AND Proud @ 138:
No. Cindy Sheehan's too smart to accept. :>p
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