Whiplash!: Pat Buchanan flip-flops on Palin in record time
By SilentPatriot Monday Sep 01, 2008 6:40pm
Early Friday morning, when Sarah Palin's name was floated as a possible VP pick, Pat Buchanan and Joe Scarborough couldn't have been any more against it: Scarborough compares Palin to Harriet Miers, saying it would be "condescending" towards women and a huge "political faux pas," while Pat Buchanan says the pick could be spell potential "disaster."
"I will say this, and let's just be really blunt about it, if John McCain's campaign thinks that by simply appointing a woman they are going to get Hillary Clinton's voters, that is condescending and insulting to women and it is a terrible terrible political faux pas. This will be a mistake." [...]
"You know, it sounds, and I know I'm going to get blasted for this, it sounds like a Harriet Miers decision, 'let's get a woman, whether she's experienced or not'..."
Well, John McCain did make the irresponsible choice of Palin for VP, and in the second half of this mashup Heather so graciously put together, Pat Buchanan makes a complete reversal and begins to extoll the virtues of a Palin vice-presidency, going so far as to even proclaim that she and her husband were members of the "Buchanan Brigade," something the McCain campaign, for obvious reasons, vehemently denies.
We're still awaiting Scarborough's flip flop. I can't be too far off.
(h/t Heather)
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GOP vetting technology:
http://www.bgladd.com/McSameStore/Palintology_E-meter.jpg
Fifth. maybe.
What? Surprised? Fox headliner job in the offing for Buchanan?
What a surprise.
Looks like they'll flip flop again. Signs that Sarah Palin will be Sarah Failin':
She cancels her appearance at the RNC tonight:
http://cbs2.com/video/?id=76067@kcbs.dayport.com
"Palin ignited an explosion of enthusiasm among conservatives, evangelicals, traditional Catholics, gun owners and Right to Lifers not seen in decades."
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=74137
Wow. It makes your head spin. I'd really like to know what it feels like to go through the kind of mental gymnastics conservatives go through when they realize they have to completely reverse strong opinions and beliefs for clan unity. It's gotta be a surreal feeling.
Buchanan is reacting to the polls...
Some media outlets have been trying to spin it that Obama's convention bounce has flattened out, but that is not the case and the Palin scandals may be rallying the conservative base, but they would have turned out for McCrazy anyway.
Look at the trend curves...
Gallup Daily: Obama Hits 50% for First Time
Leads McCain by eight percentage points, 50% to 42%
http://www.gallup.com/poll/109960/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Hits-50-First-Time....
Same story at Real Clear Politics Poll Averages:
RCP Average 08/29 - 09/01 -- 49.2 42.8 Obama +6.4
Gallup Tracking 08/30 - 09/01 2772 RV 50 42 Obama +8
Rasmussen Tracking 08/30 - 09/01 3000 LV 51 45 Obama +6
Hotline/FD 08/29 - 08/31 RV 48 39 Obama +9
CNN 08/29 - 08/31 927 RV 49 48 Obama +1
CBS News 08/29 - 08/31 781 RV 48 40 Obama +8
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_electi...
"it ain't over till it's over" as Yogi says and while no one should get cocky... it is looking better all the time!
Sarah Palin bikini pic here
http://thebruceblog.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/sarah-palin-do-you-like-my-...
Buchanon now likes her for the reasons McCain's people are trying to avoid. Her husband just got pegged as a third party nut.
If the repigs think Hillary's supporters are going to back palin just because she has two breasts and no testicles they're delusional. I mean, if it were that easy mcshame could have stuck with his first choice & BFF lindsey graham.
I've said it earlier as well. Palin is a Patsy, a head fake.
I expect her to step down. They have used her as much as they wanted to. They used her to drive away the news from Obama's historic speech and his directed barbs at McCain. They will use her absence to garner the pity vote with the theme being: the horrible liberals drove her away
I feel like I am living in the story "the emporer's new clothes".....this pick is INCREDIBLY stupid, irresponsible and representative of the idiocy of the rethugs....when Dick Morris says her pregnany daughter is "good news".....wtf? I guess if she was a Nazi they would REALLY love her? How much 'black is white, up is down right is wrong' bullshit can the American people be fed? WOW.
Palin is turning toxic. McCain keeps her, he's damaged. He lets her go, his judgement comes into question for nominating another failed Harriet Myers.
Loose, loose for McSame. Win, win for America!
Joe Scumbag flipped so hard this morning Mika got a nose bleed. He sang the GOP song all morning after defending buddy Pat at the top....seems folks have read Pats latest book and have made a decision on Pat's views...Pat does not like being called for what he is....would impact his income drastically.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0808/Palin_on_Israel.html?showall
vrunner @ 10:
Those Horrible Liberals is correct. That seems to be the formula this one.
^^ Imagine if Obama chose Feingold to be his veep which really energized the liberal base, and then the right wing nuts raised a lotta hooopla abou tit, and then Obama ended up choosing Biden. The key being that the energetic base remains energetic even after their pick steps down (if not more incensed and excited at the "unfair" removal) as they now think that the candidate thinks like them and approves of them.
i swear -- if i hear the words FLIP FLOP once more i'm going to scream.
stop taking up the neo-cons language -- when you do they end up winning every time.
and for the record -- as a proud Democrat, you gotta give Pat Buchanan credit for speaking his mind -- at least you can engage in a conversation with him and fundamentally disagree rather than have him just play with words on you and try to make you look unpatriotic. who cares if buchanan is consistent? he's not running for office -- at this point he's a political talking head and no more.
NEXT SUBJECT!
How many more banks failed while Palin has dominated the National Unconsciousness.
Al Sharpton, always good for the one liners, said today from the Republican convention:
When asked by a reporter about "independent" Joe Lieberman: "Glad he's speaking where he belongs, with the Republicans"
When asked about 9ui11iani not speaking: "I'll try to recover"
"She's a bright girl..." And he's a dim old fart.
Brokaw is an ass.
How Palin is Playing in the Supermarket Aisles
The Democratic party better get their proverbial shit together...
Buchanan, Scar, Limpballs and O'Liely are all the same. Their whole life is spin. Hopefully Americans are waking up to these ploys. When people start to worry about food on the table and a roof over their heads, they start to look more closely at politics. The politicians in Washington are like bugs under a microscope. Good.
P.D. @ 24:
Don't hold your breath on that one.
Anyone know what's up with Firedoglake? I can't access her site.
Dave
Viet Vet
These reversals are getting a bit like Orwell's 1984: "Oceania is our ally. Oceania has always been our ally!"
Dave @ 26:
Server probably falling apart like everything else in this country.
Sorry I didn't preview...hope that didn't cause any HTML mayhem for anyone.
Count how many times Buchannon calls her a "gal". Oh thats not demeaning
Dave @ 26:
I just got on. Takes a while to load today.
Jon Lester @ 27:
Have a Victory Gin. Or Victory Beer.
The jury is not out on Sarah Palin, not by a long shot, and it certainly wasn't out on Friday morning when Pat Buchanan expressed his initial thoughts.
An about face is warranted in this case.
The feeding frenzy by all media outlets, not to mention liberal blogs, bears this phenomenon out. If it were the horrendously bad and irresponsible pick everyone on the
left keeps reassuring themselves it is, they wouldn't keep talking about her non-stop and in record amounts.
This could go either way. But there is no denying it is a phenomenon not like anyone has seen in a very long time, at least from the conservative side. No one trusts me here, an d that is fine, but trust me on this.
Here's Pat Buchanan's article on it, just updated.... Johnny's Got a New Girl
Reality never interfered with him before why should it now?
"She's a feminist, she has five kids!" lol lol lol lol
Up is down.
Bad is good.
Inexperience is experience.
Dumb is smart.
Ignorance is wisdom.
Weakness is strength.
Liberal teen pregnancy is evil.
Conservative teen pregnancy is blessed by Baby Jesus.
Hillary is an assertive, tough woman. Assertive, tough women are evil.
Sarah is an assertive, tough woman. Assertive, tough women are wonderful.
Gretchen the aspiring elitist @ 31:
I just got on. Thanks
Dave
Janet @ 35:
The "New Feminists" . . . Circa 2008
Husband
Kids
Shops
House
2 SUV's
Wears Stiletto Heels, eye makeup and push up bra
As Napoleon once said,: "Do not interfere when your enemy is destroying himself". Let us all be quiet and watch them twist in the wind.
Janet @ 35:
and she's a white Christian, leave her alone!
That dress Cindy McCain wore yesterday has got to be the worst most expensive one in the history of conventions. It looked even worse when she was beside Laura Bush. Laura looked very nice and very tasteful. Cindy looked like she is 55 trying to look 25, or else Jane Jetson. And it was Gold. Just awful.
Buchanon is now fer her where before he was agin her... ehh.. Huh... Evidently, if what others say about Buchanon is accurate... One thing this definitely assures... She's neither black nor Jewish... Apparently he can hang with just about anything but that.... Hey, don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger.....JD
typical Buchanan
some reality she is a poor pick to be commander in chief
but a good political pick/move for the (R) to win. that's what he is saying. i'm glad you shared this.
palin is a ultra-conservative.....people better take a good look at this. this is scary stuff.
L.A. Confidential @ 38:
What, no job? Where am I wearing the stiletto's to? The Piggly Wiggly?
leogorcey @ 39:
Oh, no! I am getting huge inspiration out of this! LOL :)
Sassy@43, my husband said she looked like Ming the Merciless.
SassySandy @ 41:
There's another beauty queen around and she is competing.
by asking about sarah palin we are asking what john mccain is about........it's simple....that's our theme.
Ruthless People @ 40:
she a white
christainLIAR LIAR LIARshe started right out lying........leave her alone
only if someone waterboards some sense into her
which is not likely.
Gosh, I thought that bulge in Bristol's belly looked, ummm, not like baby fat. Rather fat resultant from a baby. ProfitMedia will get into line and spout the RNC points.
The pukes wanted a "star" or a "phenom" to answer Obama ie filling a stadium or drawing a quarter million Germans etc etc.
They got what they deserve.
L.A. Confidential @ 38:
....and if you're secretary of state, shop for expensive shoes along 5th avenue when a devastating hurricane comes ashore....oh wait, that's feminist circa 2005...the GOP has come a long way baby since then...nevermind.
The new Republican talking point..."She has a kid with Downs Syndrome."
Without the 'kid', she'd still be an unknown hockey mom.
...Karl Rove politics.
sarah palin and her husband both worked pat buchanan's
campaign.........that tells you something
Ha! Pat you are soooooooooooooooo busted.
Still I can't help liking you,you old fraud.
this newborn was born 5 months ago. wow incredible i'll give her that....9 months of her 14 months of being governor she was pregnant with a Down syndrome child
stressful. now she is ready to be second in charge possibly first in charge and share the raising of 4 children. wow
dadams @ 49:
I'm serious leave her alone! If she were black you can accuser her on not loving her country enough, you could even accuse her of doing a "terrorist fist jab" with her husband if you like, but I'm not going to stand by and let you speak the truth about a white, conservative, "Christian" woman and get by with it! Leave Sarah Palin alone!
Well, of course, Pat wants to live in the newly independent Republic of Alaska. Palins hub was a card carrying johnny reb for like 7 years. The founder of the movement is buried in Canada because he wouldnt be buried under an American flag.
can they find out if she was part of this independent party
Ruthless People @ 56:
...and leave Sarah Palin's very fertile sex-before-marriage pregnant teenage daughter alone too! Who do you think Bristol is, Chelsea Clinton?....in which case you could call her a dog and the daughter of Janet Reno if you wanted but this is Bristol Palin! You can't talk about her either, leave Bristol Palin alone!
Buchanan & Scarface's initial sentiment was the truth. They're only flipflopping now because they're being pressured or blackmailed. Let's replay Pat's original statement over and over until he can't tolerate it. He said it and it was the truth. Now he's waffling because he doesn't want to be blamed for the McSame/Palin "Campaign to Nowhere". This is fascinating and a great opportunity to see grown men making unadulterated asses of themselves. How can anyone believe a word they now say? Answer: We won't. Their personal cred is shot. This tomfoolery called the McCain/Palin ticket gets more hysterical by the moment. Now we hear that this fluzzy has ties to Abrhamoff. What the heck will be next?? I can hardly wait. Comic relief, that's precisely what it is. As I've said ad nauseum, Obama and Biden need do nothing - the growing rift between McSame and his matinee idol, Bush is growing more ferocious and soon the entire GOP will be totally fragmented. This is the greatest gift that Obama and Biden could have been granted. I only hope that Palin doesn't bow out - let's all pray that she decides to remain ignorant and in the race.
Watching Buchanan and the rest of the Republicans spin this pick is making everybody dizzy. I've never seen anything like it.
This is a desparation move that didn't work for Mondale in 1984, and I don't think it will work for McCain in 2008. If she stays on the ticket, I suspect the American people will realize the pick for what it is...proof positive that McCain is impulsive, tempermental, and lacks good judgement. If it does nothing else, it will certainly blow a giant hole in his "America First" argument.
I almost barfed listening to Pat's flipflop. (sorry)
This is why decent people avoid careers in politics and leave the game to mostly unethical sociopaths who will say anything in order to get their way.
Has the economy been stimulated yet with the peanuts the repubs and enthralled demos handed out at the start of summer?
Let's face it: IN Johnny McSidekick's dreams that the american people will "lay off" of getting to know what the Palin family is all about. When a politico decides to run for office, all bets are off. Besides, it's the responsibility of america to "dig deep" on Palin since McSenile didn't vet her at all. We now have to turn over every rock and examine what we find. We cannot trust McSame and his non vetting process now and have to become our own detectives. As it is, 4 days and she's embroiled in about 7 investigations and scandals and an unwanted teen pregnancy. I'd say that Miss Palen has her hands quite full and surely doesn't have time to help run this country. The Alaskan government know her well and contend that "Palin isn't capable of running the state" - and this ignoramus believes she can run this country. How trivialized McSenile believes the job to be!
I guess then about 90% of women in this country (moms, too) could be Veep if McCain is accurate. Pathetic and hysterical. This clearly is the machinations of a man who is delusional and senile demented.
I would be really scared of brilliant, smart woman like this! Lot of animal behavior observation and animation could animate this gals appeal.
Hope the BO is going to match. Get that pooh will you?
McCain can now be labeled "certifiably" insane. The jury's in.
McCain screwed the pooch on this pick.
They got the shock collar back on Pat.
affielover @ 65:
Who are you referring to?
The Republiborg Collective recalled these noncompliant drones yesterday for re-assimilation, which was successful. From now on, they will only speak in sound bites that are approved by the Collective. Borg Queen Karl apologizes for any inconvenience.
Resistance is futile.
The Palin pick is proof positive that there is no limit to how far right a politician can be these daze and still be taken seriously.We're talking HARD right wing here folks.On the flip side,we have tepid political moderates being characterized as "far left wing" As if. If only.
buchanan's ass is probably bright red from his trip behind the woodshed, where mccain (the tortured torturer) wielded a mighty switch from yonder willow tree.
MK Ultra @ 8:
Photoshopped, from what I've read and heard elsewhere.
Ruthless People @ 56:
give us all a break.......
this woman is a freak'n hypocrite sudo-christian
i am tired of their/her bullshit lies.
they don't live what they preach.
she is as conniving as any other insipid trailor trash.
oh, btw, i am so scared of you.......bring it on! to quote her hero.
As if this headline isn't enough...check out the "Johnston will attend GOP Convention." This is shaping up just as the McCain camp had planned, first get the religious leaders on board before the news hits the street. Second, play this as American as Apple Pie in that all families struggle through tough time, but it's the decisions we make as families that keep us stron. Third, play this to the media as though McCain only can...I'm a maverick and picked someone who understands women and what they go through (read some of the responses to this story...how gushing). Lastly, paint the Obama campagin as smear mongers for even asking about this and then assert that they have pushed this to the media.
Well, it seems to be working and I for one wish this crap would stop playing in the media. First, her daughter got knocked up, but the central question to ask is this: If the daughter planned on marrying this boy (as the media asserts) and they planned on marrying before the pregnancy was noticed, then this goes to the heart. She is essentially lying about the pregnancy in order to keep the story on the right. Mistakes happen, wrong, by calling this a mistake she is essentially stating the baby is a mistake. But what of the statement by the boys mother, "they planned on marrying before the pregnancy." This leads me to believe the daughter planned this in order to get away from the family or just "made a mistake." Either way, the story means nothing to me, but sadly, many bible lovers will not agree and vote with their "hearts" instead of their minds.
PorridgeGun @ 22:
Love that US magazine cover!
Good job, Wenner Media ...
Fundies call Bristol a "slut".
http://www.covenantnews.com/abortion/archives/045817.html
Chuck @ 77:
LOL!!!!!
Time for some Daily Show comparison video clips.
I guess the Right just assumes their brain dead followers won't notice the sudden change of heart that Buchanan has had (or aren't fans of Jon Stewart).
Yet another tool for the repugs.
L.A. Confidential @ 5:
Are you sure it wasn't just gas.
You'd better listen to Pat. You may not like his stances, but his political instincts are DEAD ON. If he says this pick will solidify those conservative Christian states Obama was hoping to flip, allowing John to focus on the swing states, it may very well work. Hate Pat if you like, but his political reading of things is usually right. Obama needs to respond to this very carefully and decisively.
Ah, Pat Buchanan, philosopher king.
But he does have a point. Once again the Republicans have set the bar so low it is impossible for Palin to fail (in their eyes).
This is a real test for the American people. I expect them to fail, but I'm willing to be surprised.
Why are Republicans such spineless lemmings? They are PATHETIC!
I guess Pat didn't want to get Olbermanned.
She's a buchanan acolyte and supporter. To not support her would seem ungrateful.
And of course Pat is a died in the wool social-con. He probably very much disagrees with her slavish adoration of Bush war policy.
Buchanan loved her before he hated her.
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BobbyG @ 1:
ROFL!!
These "idgits" need to ask themselves...
Nuff said!
BFF = Buchanan Flip Flop
It is ridiculus how dumb the democrat party is. You people have the worst most unexperienced cadidate ever in history. Orbama has never held elective office but somehow he can be president? He don't know nothin about russia. Sara does. She meets with russia because Alaska is there neighbor. Get a clue you looney leftists.
According to Pat, she's a sailor just like her good ole grandpappy.
wrote about this here: Pat Buchanan is a sad, pathetic man. http://www.lawrence.com/blogs/makes_sense_me/2008/sep/02/pat_buchanan_sa...
how sad Buchanan has turned into this pathetic mess of a man.
Ahhh... yes. Let's talk liars and flipflops, shall we?
That's his VP candidate's opinion of him... or at least it was earlier in this election. He also touted McCain for his experience and said he'd be honored to run with him. Agents of change? Sure. Look how fast he changed his tune when offered the VP slot.
I love liberals. They can dish it out, but can't take it. You're supporting a neophyte that will be the 3rd in a row to fail to take the White House.
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What did that bigot Pat Buchanan say about cross dressing and gays in his big speech back then in 1992 (I think that's the right year)?
Also, it is truly amazing how fast Buchanan got the talking points. From the morning to the afternoon/evening I suppose?
remember when the right wing hated john mccain? that didn't last either. someone needs to ask these people if they know its so obvious they are trying to deceive the public.
If msmbc had any sense they would show buchanan the door and save a lot of money, he is an old hack sounds like a moran and when he get,s all worked up his voice goes up like he sets on his balls.time to put him out to the pasture.
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