Rightwing Disses General To Boost Palin
By Steve Hynd Monday Sep 01, 2008 7:30am
Over at Blackfive, Uncle Jimbo is hyping Sarah Palin's position as Commander in Chief of the Alaskan National Guard to give her pretensions of national security experience befitting a Vice President.
He says that because of an Alaskan National Guard unit operating a missile defense base in Alaska she has a "unique role in our national security and homeland defense" and approvingly cites an email from one of his readers to that effect. He goes on to claim in comments that "she's privy to military and intelligence secrets no other governor is. She has to be. There's no way she could function as governor if she weren't." It's a story approvingly accepted by the likes of Jonah Goldberg and Kim Priestap.
There's a bit of a problem with his narrative though.
Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell, adjutant general of the Alaska National Guard, considers Palin "extremely responsive and smart" and says she is in charge when it comes to in-state services, such as emergencies and natural disasters where the National Guard is the first responder.
But, in an interview with The Associated Press on Sunday, he said he and Palin play no role in national defense activities, even when they involve the Alaska National Guard. The entire operation is under federal control, and the governor is not briefed on situations.
A couple of Jimbo's commenters pointed this out to him and he his readers (EDIT: corrected attribution) went apoplectic, going so far as to denigrate the officer in charge of the ANG.
He's the commissioner of the Department of Military and Veterans Affairs. The fact that he has no role in national defense activities is a given. All you have to do is read his title.
And to claim that just because the Alaska National Guard's Strategic Plan for 2008-12 was written "in line with Governor Palin's priorities", Palin herself drew up the criteria for that plan - even though that phrase is the only time Palin is mentioned in the whole document.
What a rotten milblogger Jimbo is - or simply dishonestly defending his thesis by focusing on only one of the Adjutant General's duties. Perhaps Jimbo should have corrected his readers, but he didn't. Here's the relevant part of Gen, Campbell's bio:
Major General Craig E. Campbell is the adjutant general for the State of Alaska, commander of the Alaska National Guard and the commissioner of the Department of Military and Veterans Affairs. He is responsible to provide Army and Air National Guard military forces, a State Defense Force, and a Navy Militia that are fully prepared to protect Alaska from any threat, disaster, or emergency. He is also responsible to ensure that Alaska’s National Guard forces are ready to deploy worldwide and accomplish military missions in support of the national defense strategy. As adjutant general and commissioner for the State of Alaska, he is responsible for emergency services, homeland security, veteran affairs, a Counter-Drug Support Team, a Civil Support Team, and a Youth Challenge Program.
What a great way to support the military...by boosting your wingnut Veep candidate at the expense of a general with 34 years in uniform. Classy.
Crossposted from Newshoggers.
(Note: Jimbo emailed to note that I'd wrongly attributed words from his commenter "Tom W" to Jimbo himself. As of this writing, Jimbo hasn't corrected his commenter, but he has my apology for the wrongful attribution anyway. The post has been edited accordingly.)
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They can do whatever they want to make her look better but it won't satisfy the Jesus freaks in the party. Her family is a shining example is what they don't want happening.
The Palin Baby-Gate business will not sit well with these people.
I'm surprised they haven't approached Bristol pregnancy as an immaculate conception yet.
Oh...Don't forget that the taxpayers will be footing the bill for four years for Palin's kids and grandkid...maybe even young Levi.
How's that stack up against her fiscal conservative values.
The problem I see with the boast that Palin is the Commander in Chief of the Alaskan National Guard is that she admits to never having thought about Iraq. If these men and women are being called up for service in Iraq, how can she not have thought about it?
I thought that the governor of each state was in charge of their National Guard. If that's true, she's just another head of a state with a position that comes with the office.
The harder they try to sell her, the more weakness we see in her. They all sound like snake oil salesmen. They know their product is worthless but they'll say anything in order to get you to buy it. Once you discover the product is useless the snake oil salesman is gone and so is your money.
Morning Joe went all bat shit crazy this morning talking about the baby story and calling the Kos site a sleazy site. He and Mika were appalled by the insinuation that the baby that's already here might belong to the daughter. Then they went bat shit crazy again talking about the rude protesters outside the convention. It was so bizarre and so crazy. Hopefully someone has the clip.
Palin can't quit birthing babies long enough to put the country first.
Yeah, but, but, but, Palin's also somehow the Commander of the 49th Missile Defense Battalion, which is the only thing standing in the way between our fair homeland and North Korean missiles!
it's amazing--amazing--to watch them scurry to make crap up. and what a lot they HAVE to make up to try to cover for their uncountable idiocies.
Jay Severin Has A Small Pen1s @ 2:
shhhhhh.....you're not supposed to talk about Republican children. Just go back to listening to those old audio clips of the Rethuglicans saying Chelsea was the new dog in the White House and Janet Reno was her father.
Reagan Redux?: Palin Proposes ‘Sperm Wars’ Shield Against Teen Pregnancy
Ruthless People @ 5:
My thoughts exactly. She and now her daughter keep churning 'em out, and, from what I hear, kids take time and energy to raise. I'd suspect that could take away from her ability to perform her job functions, be it governor or VP.
BTW, I'll bet she doesn't support family leave time. Just a hunch...
DannyEastVillage @ 7:
Yeah.. and yet they wonder why they're failing..
Seriously. Their lying is endemic and chronic to a degree that makes the Kremlin of old look like veritable straight-shooters.
If the GOP was a person, I'd have classified him or her as a "pathological liar" and stayed as far away from them as possible!
Is HONESTY so damn bad? It's like kryptonite to them (and the current administration) What's so horrible about saying "Okay so maybe she's not the most experienced candidate - on paper. But we have full confidence in her abilities" or something like that?
Conservatives denigrating the commander of the ANG? How surprising. Almost as surprising as the conservatives suddenly touting Obamas lack of military experience.. yeah, because they so respected Kerry's, Gore's, Cleland's or Murtha's service. Yes sir-e bob.
Major General Craig E. Campbell is only one man, one of the troop"s" we are supposed to be supporting as Americans, right, Jimbo?
How about a NEW SLOGAN? Support the troop!
So Bill Clinton--at age 32--was elected governor of Arkansas and was the Commander in Chief of the Arkansas National Guard for what, a dozen years? How does that give comfort to a crazed wingnut?
Can you smell the desperation on these people? They reek of it, and they're scared that the few paltry bucks they've given McCain out of pity are being pissed away.
Of far greater importance is that she is a separatist and a supporter of the idea that Alaska can secede from the Union. That alone, if it was explained and detailed properly to the American people by our awful press, would negate her selection in a heartbeat. If you don't buy the basic premise of the United States of America, then how can you run for Vice President (and, how can you be the "commander in chief" of forces that actually fall under Federal command, thanks to the Federalization of our National Guard since 9/11?)
Don't expect informed analysis from wingnuts from here on it. They're operating on nothing but 'roid rage and fear.
I saw one of Mc Cain's tlking dummies on MSNBC last night and he was asked to name one thing (a good decision) Palin has made in respect to the ANG and he sounded like Ralph Cramden, "hamina, hamina, hamina..."
Classic...
Ha ha. What a douchebag she is.
Heard this morning on CBC Radio that she also has to defend herself against charges of abuse of power or something like that because when she ordered a police chief to fire her ex brother-in-law he refused to do so and insted he got canned. She's a true republican.
And she has super powers too. But, for national security purposes they must remain secret.
Don Davis @ 9:
She grips that combination microphone/vibrator/D-cell Maglite like a pro...
I don't like to click random links because some sites make my laptop overheat...who is "Uncle Jimbo"?
fastfeat @ 10:
and abstinence before marriage is for your kids, not hers.
Sarah Palin's parents didn't raise a fool. Sure, she may not be qualified for V.P. but if elected she will qualify for the Federal healthcare program for both her and her minor daughter. You know the program I am talking about. The one elected officials use but define as socialized medicine if we the taxpayers were to have it.
the right wing political party, right wing evangelicals and right wing media types are going to get America crushed.
Can we talk about this!
ABC News confirms that Sarah Palin was a member of the secessionist Alaska Independence Party.
"Alaska First -- Alaska Always" ?????????
McCain what happend to "Country First"?
It all comes down to one thing:
They have no shame.
Don Davis @ 9:
I'm not surprised. Everything is war with these people. Iraq war, Iran war, culture war, war on Christmas, now sperm war.....If they had to live through peace and prosperity again it would kill them.
Ruthless People @ 20:
This family is a walking, talking ad for the virtues of sex ed that includes birth control and for laws that allow women to control what happens to their bodies. In other words, a walking ad for the virtues of the DEMOCRATIC platform. Otherwise, you are subjugated to carrying a baby you don't want and aren't prepared to raise and to the overarching political ambitions of your power-hungry mother.
Support the troops [who support Republicans]!
the sad part about that commenters post in the Jimbo's piece is the commenter is probably right, "she will win anyway."
Where does this General get off criticising her.
Why oh why does he hate hockey moms!
she's way over in Alaska doing god only knows what, and people carry on likes she's practically a neighbor. obama is smack-dabbed in the middle of the country, in one of the largest cities in America, and he's the unknown. i'm hoping for some rude, rude, swift Karma, here.
The fix has gotta be in. I have every confidence that my vote will not count, just like the last three times. We're toast.It's President Uncle Fester and Vice President Joy Hickey from "My Name is Earl."
Repugnacan, support those troops until they disagree with your fantasy, then you kick them to the curb.
[Deleted. DL, our intelligent posters here have smelled what you're cooking, and it reeks of McPoints! Thanks for playing-Sitemonitor]
Simon White-Thatch Potentloins @ 1:
As long as they silence the daughter and put her in the back of the church where she's rarely seen and not to discuss the situation... then the situation would be handled the exact same way any underage or unwed pregnancy is handled by churchgoers (Well... Baptists at leasts).
DL @ 33:
We'll miss you. What was your name again?
I had just about stopped reading Maureen Dowd, but her piece about Palin in Sunday's NY times was laugh out loud funny.
Anais @ 26:
Will she be looking for time off under the Family Leave Act to help take care of her illegitimate grandchlld.
I will not subsidize welfare for irresponsible women and the grandmothers that harbor them!!
I expect Palin to be a man and carry her own dead weight.
I can just see it. Putin wants to invade Alaska. But no! He knows he doesn't have a chance against that scrappy Sarah Palin. Georgia will be a much easier target. Invasion foiled!
Score: Palin 1/Putin 0
DL @ 33:
Yeah, whatever
This is just another example of the Republicans defending the latest Big Lie. And the story really isn't about Palin. It's about John McCain. Read more. http://www.tagg-lines.com/2008/09/why-palin-is-fair-game.html
Ruthless People @ 20:
Watching the Christofascists (Dobson, etc) come to her side is the epitome of hypocrisy. If she weren't white, they'd be crucifying her.
Americans believe in Christian Values and as long as the Church says Palin is the one that's enough for Americans. Look Bush said God wanted him as President and like true idiots Americans put him in office twice. Yes even seeing the recession and our troops dying didn't stop Americans from following a stupid idiot name Bush. Palin is the worse example of a Mother and is nothing more then a guys Miss Congeniality and that's enough to become President of the USA. Now if your not Republican you can be the smartest person in the World but never be President. Americans prefer dumb rich idiots like Bush and VP like Dan Quayle or Sarah Palin. Look the Big Business only need to push another idiot as VP because McCain can't remember and the CEO's can do anything. Palin will just ask for those kick backs and smile as she did in the beauty contest she lost. But her daughter might want to look for a new Baby Daddy as Levi doesn't seem to be interested in Bristol anymore. Now I did notice not a word from Bristol's Father. Now I know Todd Palin is fighting his drinking problem but let's hope he can step up at lease one to be a Father to his daughter. Let's hope Sarah will get a real mother to raise her other daughters so they don't follow Bristol's actions. As Republicans and the Church say this is no big deal I and only say it's a new life we're talking about and a child will be raising a child.
What a bunch of lying assholes. Governors have NO control over the NG other than calling them out in case of emergency within the state. any other deployments overseas or else where is under federal control, equipment and supplies are under federal control. the AST's that manage the armories and do upkeep are civil service (federal) employees who are also members of the guard
With this choice of Alaskan Governor Palin McCain,the GOP righties,far righties and way out there kooks are in full 'DIVE!DIVE!DIVE!' mode.
McCain wanted Joe Lies for VP pick. TurdBlossom wanted Romney. Must have been a dustup over VP pick and Palin shows up.
One can sense this Palin choice may suffer an early flame out as Palin definitely seems to have not been vetted in what one could call "a competent manner". This is so BushWorld now again. Sheesh.
Palin and her family plus her history is like some bizarre soap opera. I mean it plays out with all the right characters and events to make it one of those stories that people laugh at because it has so many weird twists and turns. It's like Sarah is this superwoman on he outside and a whole different person inside. There's a baby in the family and it's questioned which female is its mother. Then the teen in the family becomes pregnant. Meanwhile there are feuding family members and strange family members too. You would never see a fictional soap like this because you just can't make this stuff up.
While I find such people amusing, I have to almost feel sorry for them. After desperately hurling the "inexperienced" meme at the Obama campaign for months, they are now reduced to having to retroactively undo those comments with a VP candidate that has far less experience and by all appearances seems to be a time bomb. When that can't undo the damage of their first claim, they have to invent experience and try to shout down anyone who points out that they are incorrect.
It is funny to watch these fools who put forth the criteria for which candidates should be mercilessly judged now try to make a candidate who fails all of their own criteria seem to be a good choice. They are finding out quickly that it is hard to reverse course on your own supposed principles.
fastfeat @ 10:
Haven't you heard her brag about going back to work 3 days after giving birth? As if that was something to celebrate. It doesn't make her look tough or dedicated to me (mother of one) it makes her look cold and kind of nuts.
DL @ 33
So you're saying you're not voting for Obama because we were mean to Palin? ....no no no thank you. Now please go back to your hole and come up with some better shit.
DL @ 33:
This is a lovely story; however this thread is not about you, believe it or not. Second, when you start calling people liberals simply because you may disagree with their point of view, there is really no point in bothering to pretend that there is anything independent about you.
You slip is showing.
DL @ 33:
I am sad to hear this, and I can see why you would think this way.
However, Senator Obama I think has made it very clear what his thoughts are about the pregnancy. In fact, he in no uncertain terms said that he would "fire" anyone who might be spreading rumors like this.
When it comes right down to it, I am voting for President, not Vice President. I am voting for someone whom I believe has the better judgment in important areas like not going to war in the first place in Iraq. John McCain has Neocon advisors as part of his staff of top advisors. Randy Scheunemann and Robert Kagan are members of PNAC, the group which strongly urged Clinton in 1998 to attack Iraq, and whose former members include Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Scooter Libby, and Paul Wolfowitz. Now McCain may say he is a "maverick," and he may claim that he is so different from George W. Bush, but it appears to me that in the very, very important area of whether or not we go to war, he is very much like George W. Bush. If he takes top level advice from those who got us into a senseless war in Iraq, McCain will get us into a senseless war in Iran, in Russia, or anywhere else in the world those Neocon advisors tell him.
DL @ 33:
I don't think many here are attacking her children, just the hypocrisy of her party (especially the Fundies) when it comes to to child-rearing and the virtues of the "family values" ideals. I don't give a f*ck if her 17-year-old in out banging someone or even wants to have a family. But this type of behavior is exactly what they criticize as a moral failure of the country.
As to McCain's age, it and his health problems, are extremely important. His choice of a qualified VP running mate is at least as important as Obama's.
StirFry @ 48:
Absolutely, Obama has been fighting smears against himself and his wife for months now. They've been attacking Hillary for over a decade. It's part of the gig. If Palin can't take the heat, stay the heck out of the kitchen.
pissed off patricia @ 45:
Where's Jerry Springer these days?
her Passport is her record, only one time has she flown to foreign country.
We don't know if she ever even set foot in Canada for all we know.
Just heard a couple of Republican pundits and they think it's ok if Sarah Palin's single daughter to have a baby because it's her daughter. Now weren't these the same people who went nuts about Reverand Wright? Talk about hypocrisy.
Fanon @ 47:
Thanks for a mother's perspective. As a guy, such behavior seemed cold to my eyes as well, but I didn't feel qualified to say so.
The general impression I got from her and her family is one me of a puppy mill.
Poor DL whining that we are attacking children and age and oooh picking on the GOP candidate.
Listen to Hannity or Levin on RADIO, that is where the real hate is spewed. Hannity refers to Barack Obama as "the annointed one", Levin makes messianic references about Obama...all with contempt. They have attached him personally, they have attacked his children and family personally. The tying of Obama to Bill Ayers is nothing but a red herring, but Hannity has spent the last 6 months trying to MAKE it news. McCain has made jokes about Chelsea Cllinton. and the MSM has NEVER brought it up, you don't hear Hannity talk about that do you. You've commented on this blog before about how badly Hillary Clinton was treated. That is just the same old GOP talking point that we've been hearing for months, and only reveals who you really are.
You're just another troll that has come out from under your bridge to spew cognitive dissonance and sheer bullshit.
You don't want to vote. That's your right. You don't vote, then don't whine, because then you have no right.
"responsive and smart" describes most people in Middle Class america today. But are these responsive and smart individual CAPABLE of running our government? Short answer: NO
The sad fact is that regardless of how responsive and smart Palin is, there is NO WAY that she would be fit for command.
Let's face it: It's time to begin a serious discussion about McCain's "real health issues" - and get some answers. This raises the probability of Palin's rising to take command of this country. Invasive Melanoma Stage 2A/3 will mean constant vigilance and removal of suspicious moles which could be cancerous. Each time this occurs, the country will be "ripe for the pickin" with Palin at the helm.
God forbid that McSame has to undergo debilitating chemo (after all, there is NO cure for invasive melanoma and it's just a matter of time) then this country will be run by someone whom I wouldn't trust with the keys to my new car! Wow! This is more serious a "national security issue" than anyone can imagine or dream in their worst of nightmares.
The market is taking bets now on whether Palin will resign under pressure as more corruption comes forward on her or not be officially nominated. The GOP is in shambles right now over this.
The obvious conclusion we all must make is that there was no one in the entire GOP worthy of being our next Veep. Now that tells the whole story right there.
Obama and Biden need do nothing - say nothing. Palin's past will speak for itself and her thin resume will become McCain's liability. There goes his experience argument against Obama in one fell swoop.
McPappy does need a professional work-up for senile dementia. Soon it will be the GOP calling for it. Then again, maybe it's "payback time" and he's intentionally sending a signal that none of the GOP bright stars (Romney, Huckabee, Thompson) can hold a candle to Miss Palin? Maybe he's intent on sabotaging the GOP? After getting his balls handed to him by the GOP and Bush in 2000, I wouldn't be surprised. After all, his ego is not fully mature, his PTSD doesn't allow for rational insight, and his current psychological status is borderline "delusional".
Let's hope that the GOP confirms his selection and that she doesn't bow out. This truly is the BEST GIFT the Dems have received in a long, long time!
TAGG @ 40:
I agree. This election, this story, isn't about Palin. It is about McCain; and it's about turning the attention away from him.
I personally think that McCain had some very cunning reasons to pick Palin. Little is known about her; rumors abound that she hasn't been vetted properly, but I don't believe that, and now it appears as if she probably has been vetted, maybe not to the extent she should have been, but probably a lot more than they're letting on; William the "Bloody" Kristol did predict in late June that she would be the pick....somewhere out there in the high levels of right wing conservative hierarchy, people knew about her.....I'm still amazed at how much money has been raised for her since Friday.....C&L's posting yesterday about the Council for National Policy convinces me that these high ranking money men did indeed pony up that much money.....why would someone give so much more money on the very same day it was announced, if they didn't know a lot about her? And, while we may joke that Steve Doocy and Cindy McCain say that she does have foreign policy experience because Alaska is so close to Russia, there will be some people who believe that she does, and they will be convinced even more so given this Alaska National Guard thing, whether or not it is true.
It appears to me as if the RNC is changing is convention theme to "Values" and "Principles," which are things that really appeal to the Republican base---right wing conservatives with lots and lots of money. Remember that infamous speech of Bush at a Republican fund raiser where he made the comment, "Some people may call you the 'elite'....well, I call you my base."
I expect some very, very strong financial support and its accompanying right wing backing of McCain/Palin coming out the rest of the campaign. I never have and still cannot believe McCain picked someone without properly vetting her.
why are we talking about this woman? she should be irrelevant
I just love how easily these right wing nuts either praise or attack military personnel whenever it suits them.
Obama is taking the high road on Palin's lack of experience and her family problems. This illustrates that this candidate "walks the talk". As for what this unwanted pregnancy illustrates, it's nothing good for the GOP platform. How 'bout those Palin "family values"? In her idiocy and lack of comprehension of STD's and AIDS, she's led her own daughter down the path of consequences. Maybe she's contracted an STD in the process? It clearly illustrates what's great about Roe V Wade in a way that is irrefutable - this young chippy of hers has the "choice" which means that she understands the sacrifices and consequences of bringing this child to full term. She will one day realize that having the "choice" means not having others tell her what to do with her body, her choices, and her future. She will have no one to blame but herself if it doesn't work out for her.
So, today is Day 4 of "Palingate". Wonder what will surface this day? She's had something like 6 or 7 scandals in 3 days - and now her hubby's DUI come out. So much for the vetting process, eh? Now we need more financial info about the candidate and her husband. He works on an oil platform, this much we know. How much "kickback" did the Palin's receive from Big Oil? From Ted Stevens directly? From Mr. Lundgren of the Wasilla sports complex fame?
It is the duty of americans to vet those running for office. It is the duty of responsible journalists to dig deep. It is the responsibility of each of us to discover as much of the truth about our politicians as we possibly can. It is our 'NATIONAL REPONSIBILITY' - and, surely, with this much corruption and lies surfacing already, little Palin is doomed to total failure.
sophya @ 58:
Sophya--
I enjoy reading your well-conceived and written posts. Thanks.
fastfeat @ 41:
If she weren't white? If she were a Democrat, white or black, they'd be crucifying her!
General Jack D. Ripper @ 59:
"values and principles" with her own daughter 5 months pregnant and unwed? Values & principles lying about the Bridge to Nowhere? Values & principles in abuse of power (troopergate)....values & principles in leaving the town of Wasilla in a mountain of debt? What values and principles would you be referring to?
They've certainly lost the "experience" platform in one fell swoop. The only thing they've adequately done is to trivialize the office of POTUS totally and dismiss the chances of any of their presidential contenders of ever taking office (since they are not as "qualified" as Palin). Hell, the only thing I see is that they've shot themselves in the foot right before our very eyes.
Would you hire a governor with 1+ years of experience to assist in your next surgical procedure? I rest my case.
fastfeat @ 63:
**Thanks (blushing)**
Palin is the kind of mother who knows her unwed daughter is pregnant, yet takes on a mission that will expose her daughters condition to the entire world. That's not motherly love we can believe in.
Not only hidden superpowers but she's also a Transformer. Not sure if she's a Decepticon or not. We'll see.
Liberal AND Proud @ 35:
Actually, we won't. Wow, what a heartfelt, honest, convincing statement from true, clear-thinking independent.
Too funny!
I got booted off Blackfive for posting this in 2005
"pro war people in crawford are REACTING to anti war protesters. it is sad to see so many people who have so much to loose and so little to gain from this war act as puppets for the military industrial mediatainment complex.
as much as i love and cherish all the men and women in the armed forces, i hate the way they are being used, and now how their families are being used to say it is the american way to kill and maim to enrich the already super rich and protect the racist nation of israel.
if you want to find wmd's in the mideast head northwest to israel. if you want to find a nation that sponsors terrorism head south to Saudi Arabia. if you want to find al qaeda's nest head east to pakistan. if you want to find human rights abusers and war criminals, look in washington dc and london.
i am a conservative. in other words we can't afford this war. the money, the loss of life, the ruined lives, the alienation of our allies, and we are giving china MORE rope to economically hang us with.
i've read this blog for a week now and many intelligent well intentioned people read and contribute. but there is one underlying thread...war is good, war will solve our problems. so many have bought into it.
airborne all the way
mk"
This makes clear that "Palin is a national security concern" for this country. Thanks to McPappy's reckless choice for one to be just a "heartbeat away from the presidency", he's placing each of us at total risk. The probability of this risk rises with his age and incurable cancer. Imagine Palin having to negotiate with the likes of Kim Jung IL? Or Putin? Or any foreign leader for that matter?
When asked about Iraq, she broke down in tears and said she couldn't discuss it because her son was being deployed. What?? The fact is she knows nothing about foreign policy and nothing about Iraq.
I just say something even more horrific - when asked about removing the words "under God", she attributed this phrase to our "founding fathers". To Miss Palin, our founding fathers only go back to 1954 which makes perfect sense to someone totally uneducated and of her age.
On the levels of intelligence, unfortunately, Miss Palin is far from "getting it". She's "unconsciously incompetent" which means that she "doesn't know that she doesn't know".......and there's a lot she doesn't know. I'm not ready to gamble away the national security of this country just because John McCain is capricious and irresponsible, are you?
Wasn't she also Admiral of the Alaskan Navy?
sophya @ 65:
I am a very liberal Democrat who is sick and tired of Republican rule the past 8 years. I am sick and tired of people like Limbaugh and Hannity who call us "mindless" and who keep calling Obama the "Messiah." I am sick and tired of George W. Bush and his administration never being held accountable. I am sick and tired of the absolute hypocrisy these people show.
I just think we do need to remember that Bush has been elected twice, and he was put into power and supported by those "elite" who want a very right wing conservative president. These "elite" are not stupid; they are going to use everything they've got to come at us, and they are already responding about the Palin baby with the fact that she and her family are just like everybody else......is it hypocritical? Yes, it damned well is. But, many people out there will unfortunately overlook that hypocrisy of the situation.
pissed off patricia @ 67:
Patricia: I suspect that the real "pathology factor" here is Palin herself. I've known the egomaniacal mindset of professional pageant contestants. There's even a psychological profile of these women - sharks, is what they're called. They suffer from transference typically and delusion. Surely, Palin knew that her daughter would be the talk of the country but she didn't care. Her political aspirations trumped the privacy of her own daughter. She's one cruel b---- if you ask me. But then again, what woman in her right mind with 5 children (the youngest of which is a special needs child) would imagine that she could fulfill even a 9-5 job as a secretary or waitress? But to imagine herself capable of running a country with her baby at her breast is beyond egomania - and has already spilled into the realm of total delusion.
McPappy thought that the image of a bright young woman would impress women everywhere; the reality of it is that Sarah Palin is the "antithesis" of the contemporary woman/mother. Sarah Palin has taken the women's rights movement back 100 years. She's clearly a reichwing "lockstepper" who hasn't a clue who she is but is getting off on power. Of that we can be certain (troopergate) (Stevensgate) and now pregnancy-gate.
Peter G @ 72:
Uh-oh.
History shows that when you put an Admiral of a non-existent navy in charge of a country, they inevitably turn out to be fascists.
Look up Admiral Miklós Horthy.
General Jack D. Ripper @ 73:
What we have to remember is this: BUSH WAS NOT elected twice - Bush stole the presidency twice. Just ask Kenneth Blackwell of Ohio, Diebold, and Jebbie Bush/Catherine Harris. Everyone with a brain knows this.
Hey the right or a better term the reichwing accepts no dissent. No matter if you are one of their uber loves soldiers or a citizen. You must agree totally or you are at risk of being dissapeared to gitmo for some friendly bush style torture and imprisonment and no one will know where you are at.
But that is what it take to be a good republican. You must be willing to not care what happens to your fellow countrymen, after all they don't agree with the way you do things anyway so they get what they deserve.
What happens when they don't agree with you? Any ideas?
Think about it.
HEY! It's about time we had a candidate for office that was simply pro-SEX!! SHe has it all!! VPILF, MILF, and hottie teen! WOW! I didn't realize when she said she was a soccer mom that she meant she wanted to breed her own soccer team!! Like pro-life on steroids.
I think it's time to take some bets on Palin dropping out of the race before her confirmation just like the stock market is doing right now. What's your guess?
She has to be thinking that she's been duped by McSame right now. Her life history is crisscrossing the world; her past is catching up with her. She's clueless about the process, that's evident or she would have declined with this many skeletons in her closet of horrors.
sophya @ 76:
Good point, and that' why we have to be afraid of those out there without a brain who vote Republican!
Ruthless People @ 64:
Of course. So many things things these "men of God" hate, so little bandwidth...
E. Skyhawk @ 78:
ROTFLMAO! good one! Sarah Palin is comedy central.
We all know that the comedy programs were worried about having enough material once the Chimp leaves the country. They won't have to worry now for a while. Sarah Palin will become the new "chimpette".
Simon White-Thatch Potentloins @ 1:
Even though children should be off-limits in the political game, is there anybody out there that really thinks the birth of the "mentally challenged" son of Sarah is really hers? Couldn't it be her grandchild? After all she was in Texas when she supposedly went "into labor", and then she flew all the way back home. Interesting.
Palin is not fit for command and neither is McCain. The American public knows it.
The polls are widening. Obama's lead is widening. The MSM is simply not talking about it.
This race is over. Grandpa will slip and slide through the debates, IF he can stay awake. He doesn't have the gray matter to compete with Obama in that forum, and sure as hell doesn't have the edge to even keep up. I fully expect McCain to have a Gerald "there is no Soviet domination of Eastern Europe" Ford moment ala Czechoslovakia., and...does anyone really think that Biden isn't going to wipe up the floor with Palin.
General Jack D. Ripper @ 80:
From what I gather, no one is being fooled. I've even talked to WW2 veterans who are totally disillusioned Republicans jumping over to vote Dem in November largely due to this level of reckless judgment on McCain's part. Can you imagine this dweeb taking control of the military? My god.....what a total charade that would be.
It's basically the 26%ers (Republican locksteppers) who profess to be stupid about any of this. The Independents (I am one) are not fooled one iota. Most I's are progressive women and dissatisfied Dems who are angered because Congress failed them during the midterms. We wanted the Dems to slash a few balls of the criminals in this administration but, with a corrupt DOJ, it's just not possible. So when you view the abysmal numbers people are giving congress, it has everything to do with the people wanting impeachment and some ball breaking (jail time for the criminals within).....
#33
"I was one of the people saying that I would vote Democrat this year no matter who the candidate was [...] I could not in clear conscience, using my heart or my head, vote Dem."
Is your 'CONSCIENCE' a little WACKO?
Ruthless People @ 8:
shhhhhh.....you're not supposed to talk about Republican children. Just go back to listening to those old audio clips of the Rethuglicans saying Chelsea was the new dog in the White House and Janet Reno was her father.
Psst... two wrongs don't make a right, grow up.
And do not be fooled by the polls who would have you believe that it's a dead heat either - how can it be with 40% I's (mostly dems or progressive women) and 36% Dems?? That leaves a paltry 24% Repuke. That's hardly 50% or even close. Bob Barr will definitely become the spoiler in this race for McCain - and he will take some impressive numbers. Notice how the whoring media never mentions Barr? How clever and how stupid do they think we really are?
McCain's sheer choice of Palin indicates that he is a "desperado". It shows that he knows the true polls. It shows that he's throwing caution to the wind in a last ditch attempt to make something stick. What he has made stick is the unification of all americans around a president who has integrity and not a schizophrenic who votes against his own bills....what he has made stick is a determination that this country is worth much more than putting an airhead, almost-beauty queen at the helm of our military in the very LIKELY event that McCain does not live out his term of 4 years. That's what he's done.
McCain has illustrated his psychological handicap and recklessness to all americans now - McCain has shown us all that he believes he doesn't have a chance of competing on even turf. McCain has shown that the trauma of being a PTSD clouds his logic. McCain has essentially and for all intents and purposes shot himself in the foot.
McCain/Palin will go down in history as the "Campaign to Nowhere". There is no way that McCain has any leg to stand on at this point against Obama and Biden.
McCain/Palin-gate has become a national charade!
McCain has just galvanized support for Barack Obama! Obama/Biden '08! Later buds!
Palin has become the best gift and most stellar recruiting tool to the Democratic party. Thanks, Sarah!
Reality and the real world are hard concepts for folks who use superstition to guide their life. Lying is a sin, so it is written, yet they lie every time they open their mouths?
Would you really want to have a person with less than two years experience in governing anything to have the launch buttons to Armageddon?
Get real will you! Stop the propaganda and let's all work together to bring America back to a good place to live and a home for everyone of us. It is possible to care for the sick and feed the hungry and shelter the needy!
I think the Radical Right Pundits need to be euthanize to protect society from their harmful ways?
DL @ 33:
WHat a cute insincere troll you are! You "would vote Democrat"... LOL! You say it's Democrats that denigrate women when we almost nominated one to the highest office of the land??!! You're absurd!!
Now we have a half black man as our nominee and you repuklicans nominate a ditsy former beauty queen and try to convince yourselves that she is strong on national security when she herself has stated that she doesn't even know what the role of the Vice-president IS????
DUUUUUDE!
You're concern trolling is seriously weak!
Also, Obama's camp has NOT been dissing on Hillary, never has. Trolls like you do and yes, some extreme liberals, but that's not the Democratic party any more than extreme right wingnut racist Nazis are the REpublican party.... oh wait, is that you?
One more thing...
Bloggers cover EVERYTHING. It's called freedom of speech.
Obama has placed Palin's kids OFF LIMITS. It's the RIght wingnut (your invented librul media) talk shows that are ranting about Palin and her daughter's love child.
It's amazing how consistently irrational right wingers like you are...
I guess for you evolution doesn't exist.
The rest of us have a growing, learning, functioning brain with active self awareness and progressive reflective thought. You should try it sometime.
That cognitive dissonance will be the death of you.
Now it seems Palin and her husband were members of the AIP - The Alaskan Independence Party.
Why does Sarah Palin hate America?
She hates America so much, she wanted her state to leave the Union!
I'm loving this....
rain @ 83:
Even though children should be off-limits in the political game, is there anybody out there that really thinks the birth of the "mentally challenged" son of Sarah is really hers? Couldn't it be her grandchild? After all she was in Texas when she supposedly went "into labor", and then she flew all the way back home. Interesting.
First of all, the baby has Down Syndrome, you should probably look it up before using the air quoted "mentally challenged" as if you're pandering. Second, the Daily Kos story is so wildly speculative and prone to false hoods (misinterpreted pictures, poorly vetted pictures, heavy conjecture how she should look and behave as a pregnant woman) that you do in fact look like a sleazy slime merchant when you spread it. When you write something, you are also speaking about yourself, that's why respectable people stay away from attacking other peoples children.
LibertyWatch @ 91:
These americans know the reality of what McCain has done. He's basically told every one of them that their country is not worthy of having an experienced Veep. That's one horrendous slap in the face to ALL americans.
But what can they do? They're having their convention which has been years in the planning. They thought Gustav had given them a gift in having a handy excuse for Bush to not be boo-ed off the stage by viewing americans; they thought they would turn a tragedy into nothing more than a timely "photo op". God had other plans for them, however. Then when they realized it would not be devastation as the backdrop for their charade, they turned it into a fundraiser.
Just like McCain, the weather mimics him. Flipflopping and floundering all over the place.
The convention will be half-assed - this we've already seen. Palin's past will make her a national disgrace and pariah. McCain's own gaffes will continue to disgrace him.
And the bottom line will remain: Would you give this woman the keys to your home? In a nutshell - absolutely not! How can we put our heads up our butts and believe that she would be capable of running this government? Not possible in anyone's wildest delusions.
I believe America is worth more than that! I believe that America is worthy of having an honest individual at it's helm, for openers. I also believe that the second in command should be fully capable of taking the controls - like a co-pilot - in the event of a health crisis for the pilot. Biden can do this. Palin cannot.
Would you trust your future to a woman who lies during her first exposure to the public? I wouldn't.
How is Palin going to protect America. She can't protect her daughter from sperm.
The Truthiness Hurts @ 93:
Oh, yes, indeed! Palin-gate, Day 4, has revealed that she led the coalition for Alaskan secession from the union. You can't make this shit up! And you can never put lipstick on a pig. Her lurid past is coming home to haunt her. If the Repukes are smart, they'll ditch or force her to decline the nomination before it's too late.
Simon White-Thatch Potentloins @ 1:
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The above posted comment is comment #1 (which is a bit off -topic) but anyway ... the "Jesus freaks in her party" as you call them are thrilled about this. The latest Yahoo headline story says they are ecstatic because this proves that Palin AND HER DAUGHTER are pro-life. Well, if she got an abortion - that would really look bad for them so she (the daughter) has no choice. She can abort it or give it up for adoption after the election, maybe.....or not marry the Christian boy that had sex with her (AFTER the election) or divorce him 3 years from now. This would be unforgivable if Obama had a 17 year old daughter that got pregnant out of wedlock.
Look - if a 13 year old girl gave birth today to a baby and said John McCain is the father and a DNA test proved it - the Evangelical Christians would be elated. Absolutetly elated !!!!!!! They'd say "The birth of John McCain Jr. is a beatiful example of the purity of John McCain. His incredible ability to love many females at the same time shows his greatness. Today is a great day for the truth has been revealed ; John McCain, like Jesus Christ, has infinite love. "
Liberal AND Proud @ 96:
Ignorance IS as Ignorance DOES. Nice parenting skills, eh? It goes without saying that if her daughter was not educated about "safe sex", she's also exposed to HIV and STD's. As I've said, she's put this country back over a hundred years. Case in point: her own life.
Don Rumsfeld hater @ 98:
Yeah, pure John McCain. Just ask his current mistress, Vicky Iseman!! Whatever happened to "Iseman'gate"????
Liberal AND Proud @ 96:
I'd say that her daughter now needs an HIV test, too. Ever wonder why Bush gave us bogus numbers about HIV?? Story told right here.
sophya @ 99:
Do they know who the father is? Do they at least have a list of suspects? Or did the stork simply bring it?
sophya @ 97:
Check out DailyKos.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/1/4231/18477/878/581881
"This last clip is a continuation of the speech from Dexter Clark, the Vice Chairman from the AIP. In it, he talks about the necessity of infiltrating the major national parties in order to further the goals of the AIP."
McCain stated that the VP has only 2 duties:
1. To break a tied vote in the Senate
2. To inquire about the health of the president.
For that we need a VP?
Nothing about keeping in touch with the world, just in case ....?
Liberal AND Proud @ 102:
How are these children cared for? Are they receiving any type of state or federal aid? These are important questions. The GOP says we need to be responsible for ourselves. The GOP says that social programs are socialism. What is going on here?
Aaaah, we know the real truth *wink wink*, McCain was so pissed off that Cindy wouldn't compete for the title of Miss Buffalo Chip...he got even by putting a beauty queen on the ticket.
fastfeat @ 10:
Clearly this family is FOR drilling.
Liberal AND Proud @ 102:
Yes:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/01/levi-johnston-bristol-pal_n_123...
DL @ 33:
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DL, I want to thank YOU are your ilk. Because of the insanity of the Christian right ....I mean the stark raving psychopathic madness of the Christian right becoming so fucking crystal clear in the last 7 years --- my life has gone in a whole new direction. My eyes have been opened. I see the truth now. That's one thing I can thank George Bush for.
I've not heard one person say anything positive about Palin...only the MSM...
everyone I've talked to about Palin has never heard of her. Also...they'res usually lot's laughing, and commenting about why McBain actually picked her.
ronhohn @ 103:
There wont be any ties in the upcoming Senate, so maybe McSame just wants a hot little slutty nurse to watch over him in his twilight years.
Forced to marry with:
-"I'm a f - - -in' redneck" who likes to snowboard and ride dirt bikes.
"But I live to play hockey. I like to go camping and hang out with the boys, do some fishing, shoot some s- - - and just f - - -in' chillin' I guess."
"Ya f - - - with me I'll kick [your] ass,"
"I don't want kids."
Cas @ 107:
He SCORES!!!
McCaint Remember @ 106:
Drilling AT HOME!
Liberal AND Proud @ 102:
Of course, the poor sperm donor is jumping at the chance to wed Bristol, I'm sure.
I suggest Dick Cheney as his best man--guaranteed to make it a real "shotgun wedding"...
Cas @ 111:
C'mon now, he was young and stupid and just blowing off steam. He's much more serious and responsible now.
So, when Palin comes on stage at the GOP convention will they be playing country and western music?
"Momma, don't let ur babies grow up to be puck bunnies."
Republican babies are not delivered by stork. Every night, Jesus works diligently in Santa's Magical Workshop at the North Pole putting together Republican babies out of gunpowder, caviar, magical Jesus Dust, and love. Then, when all the wonderful little Republicans are complete and their programming has been activated*, Jesus throws all the naked Republican babies into a giant dog carrier tied to an MX missile and rides that missile around the United States, distributing little ticking timebombs of joy to all the Republican mommies. And that's where Republican babies comes from.
*True fact: Deep at the center of any Republican brain you will find a customized version of Windows 98 autographed by Jesus and Bill Gates.
McCaint Remember @ 115:
Obviously bad coaching...the boy forgot to tape his stick.
So you guys heard Rove is unhinged and calling the candidates names at this point.
I love Biden's response:
I'm betting that Palin is gone by Friday. That's too bad since I was looking forward to the Biden/Palin debates.
Palin and Putin will be big time friends..
They both insist on the ridiculous independence of certain parts of the world.
And they live close together..
StirFry @ 119:
Rove needs to calm down. It would be just terrible if that bloated bastard had a heart attack, bless his heart.
Cas @ 111:
Damn, I'm shocked!
After some Rovian massage: "I don't want kids until I'm in a committed, loving, relationship, which began today."
sophya @ 97:
If I were to offer you a choice of two words to describe the Republican party, one being "smart" and one being "pigheadedly stubborn", which would you circle? Go ahead and take a water-based marker and circle the word that you think is more accurate as a description right there on your monitor. Yes, I'll wait.
Got it? Ok, let me put the tubes in reverse for a moment so I can see your display... Yes, that's correct, the answer is "pigheadedly stubborn". Well done!
sophya @ 79:
My husband gives her three weeks then to be replaced by Liberman (shudders!)
I personally think the republicans think this is a lost cause and have pulled their "A" team.
McCaint Remember @ 115:
I'm pretty sure the kid is still young and stupid.
America has the highest teen pregnancy rate in the industrialized world.
Proof that 'abstinence only' really works......?
Liberal AND Proud @ 118:
lol!!
Looks like his penalty for 'high sticking' Bristol wont be 2 minutes, but more like 50 years !
Fanon @ 124:
The GOP knew going in that this was a longshot election.
That's why they put Palin on the ticket. Unfortunately, they are not so good at using the internets, so they probably didn't know about the "Alaska independence" thing, and obviously they didn't fully vet her, because they clearly did not know about the single mother issues.
Again, the GOP assumes that people are stupid, and after two Bush terms who could blame them for believing that.
The polls are WRONG. There is no tie. This is OVER. Obama is going to win BIG, so big that even the GOP wouldn't dare try to cheat. If the country explodes, they'll get blamed, and the fact is that they are cowards and would never risk their own necks for their beliefs.
Liberal AND Proud @ 121:
And that would be a tragedy and all our hearts would be broken.
sophya @ 85:
I agree 100% with you, Sophya. It's the skeptic in me which tells me that it is still going to be a tough race to the finish. Yesterday, Nicole had an article about the Council for National Policy. They are a group of very secretive, very powerful, very wealthy right wingers who use religion to control politics and try to control the masses. If you look at that list of people on that Council for National Policy group, there are some very scary people there. They are wealthy, and they are not stupid. And, like the Islamofascists that the Repugs always like talking about, these people use religion to justify everything....but all they really want is power. And what's even more scary is the secretive nature of that organization. Sarah Palin seems to embody these guys' extremist views.....so they're going to pull out all the stops, including I suspect some very negative ads like the Swiftboaters did, maybe worse.
Here's to wishing we're all right on this one! Go Obama/Biden!!!!
Simon White-Thatch Potentloins @ 1:
Are you kidding?
Don't you personally know any Jesus freaks? I was raised in a church full of them. Palin's family is EXACTLY like theirs. They can RELATE to her.
So many of my church friends ended up pregnant and married before 20.
On the other note, this thing about governors having having commander in chief experience...
as if govenors command the state National Guard like Caesar Augustus and his legions.
It just ain't so...
Except for the Governator I guess..
DL @ 33:
If you base your vote off of what you read in the comments section on public websites, then you aren't mature enough to be voting any way.
But we all know you're not an independent. This is the most simple form of concern trolling there is, and you aren't very good at it.
I really dont see them pulling Palin with only a couple months to go. He would piss off his newly energized base.
A report is due on the Troopergate scandal before the election. That should be good.
As for the concern troll above, clearly that person missed out on the right wing attack on Hillary in the 90s. Nothing during the Obama campaign even came close to that. The right-wing had her sleeping with half the white house and murdering the other half. Sometimes both.
DL @ 33:
The only loser here is you, because you don't have the time to check things out more thoroughly than you do and you don't have the courage to do what is right. Instead you blame others for your cowardice and lack of moral fortitude. You situational moralists deserve to be Republican because we sure don't need anyone that isn't in it for the long haul. Democrats anti-woman? What planet do you live on? Do you know what the Repubs actually stand for? And then you hide behind your 'independent" label which is little more than a smoke screen for a Republican that fell on hard times. Don't peddle your deception on us, please.
People like you compromise the women's rights movement by selling out when times are tough. Maybe you should look at the examples of people like Susan B. Anthony or Eleanor Roosevelt as models of what you potentially could be if you had the courage to stand for what was right. Go ahead and vote for Mc Cain, Hillary asked you to vote for Barack but I guess that wasn't sufficient for you. For shame. Thank goodness that people like you are a distinct minority and many more are more than willing to risk doing what is right.
Liberal AND Proud @ 122:
Really? Or would it be divine justice for all the lives he's ruined and ended?
When the Karmic wheel spins for Karl Rove, the payback is going to be a bitch.
This is such a f*cking joke. I looked up the Alaska National Guard and they have a whopping 200 full time troops! PLUS, I looked up the budget and in 2005 it was $26,000. Oh yes, she's ready to lead. Give me a fucking break. She's the perfect puppet just like W, corrupt and stupid.
And as for General Jack above, I agree 100% - we cannot underestimate the stupidity of the American people. The republicans USE it and the dems' weakness is that they actually ASSUME people are thinking for themselves.
We all need to be talking to people, writing letters, sending money, forwarding emails blah blah blah. Course if the election is rigged it won't matter anyway...
bmw H. 528 @ 137:
Don't waste your time with right wing concern trolls whose only purpose here is to try and stir up any "PUMA" sentiment that they think they can find.
The recent spate of polls, especially the CBS poll show that women are breaking for Obama because of the issues, not her gender. The Rethugs spun the "Puma" myth and tried to make it real... to their own demise. Real feminist have been offended by that bullshit pandering.
Rightwing Disses General To Boost Palin
A consonant...a consonant...My Nation for a consonant!
Or even the merely continent.
Liberal AND Proud @ 129:
I'd like to believe you're right but this time we can't take anything for granted. I've been talking about this with my brother in-law and he he thinks the polls are probably accurate because in spite of the huge ratings for the convention last week and all the negatives connected with the GOP, Obama is going to have a hard time because "He's still black.", and for some people that's reason enough to vote for the other guy.
Make sure everyone you know is registered to vote! There was a huge turn out last time and it still wasn't enough. Don't let these Rat bastards steal another one.
Liberal AND Proud @ 114:
Obviously, there's a lot of drilling going on at the palin home.
LOL! The idiots are making it look as if the hockey mom is staving off the Russians from invading us single-handed. LOL!
Come on! A missile defense system gives Palin the experience on national security? Well, then it gives Mayor Cook of El Paso, Texas the same since El Paso, Texas is home to Fort Bliss and the Patriot Missile Defense System and Biggs Army Airfield...oh, not to mention El Paso, Texas is way bigger than Alaska and we have a bigger population.
Wow, that would make both Mayor Cook from El Paso and Governor Rick Perry better candidates than Palin! *sarcastic
Why do Republicans hate the troops?
ysbaddaden @ 143:
The first thing I thought when I saw she had 5 kids was "Drill Here, Drill Now - It's not just a campaign slogan for Sarah Palin, it's the family motto."
PassedPawn @ 144:
Not if they come to liberate Alaska..
Rasputin @ 140:
I agree, but wanted to get my .02 in with these sellouts. Early last week, I heard an interview on Day to Day by Alex Chadwick of NPR with two of these PUMA's and toward the end, he blurted out that "polls indicate that a majority of Clinton supporters won't vote for Obama." I immediately got on the NPR site and left a message for Alex through the ombudsman challenging him to support his statement with credible information. To Alex's credit he did respond initially saying that he thought he did not say that but if he did, he would check it out and provide support for his position or issue a retraction. I e mailed him back with some links to C&L's take on the issue and some others stating my opinion that the whole issue was overblown media hype and also welcoming his response. Not surprisingly, as of today I haven't received anything but at least he knows people like us are watching and expect acountability.
Alexdem @ 75:
Wasn't Miklós Horthy the one who created a death-list and put artists in it for supporting Bela Kuhn? Such artists included Mihali Kertesz and WWI decorated hero (on the wrong side) Béla Ferenc Dezső Blaskó. The former became famed director Michael Curtiz who directed The Adventures of Robin Hood and Casablanca (interestingly about the politcally oppressed and refugees), and the later became Bela Lugosi (from Lugos Hungary) star of Dracula (again about a dangerous foreign presence).
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