In the same interview, Obama had a Freudian slipped and said "my Muslim faith".

Now as a McCain supporter, I know he's not a Muslim. never thought it, and frankly the attempts to smear him with that are ludicrous at best.

That being said, I have to admit i laughed a little with the pic in my hed of his campaign advisors all smacking themselves in the forehead simultaneously and yelling "Doh!"

:-)

jay @ 1:

In the same interview, Obama had a Freudian slipped and said "my Muslim faith".

Now as a McCain supporter, I know he's not a Muslim. never thought it, and frankly the attempts to smear him with that are ludicrous at best.

That being said, I have to admit i laughed a little with the pic in my hed of his campaign advisors all smacking themselves in the forehead simultaneously and yelling "Doh!"

:-)

And there would be a clip of him saying that, where?

Only in Amerika could a could a war candidate bent on "catching history", be neck-and-neck in the polls with a candidate so bent on the future and creating history. Are our people be so embarrassingly ill-informed, ignorant and illiterate? How could this be possible?

Got'dam that MacCain guy is nothin' but a punk fo'real. Is there anything he won't fold on; sometimes in the same sentence, amazing.
How easily people are hoodwinked. No wonder he folded so fast and got special treatment from the NVA after making the propaganda films with them.

jay @ 6:

Chicken "Hussein" Little - Not! @ 3:

jay @ 1:

In the same interview, Obama had a Freudian slipped and said "my Muslim faith".

Now as a McCain supporter, I know he's not a Muslim. never thought it, and frankly the attempts to smear him with that are ludicrous at best.

That being said, I have to admit i laughed a little with the pic in my hed of his campaign advisors all smacking themselves in the forehead simultaneously and yelling "Doh!"

:-)

And there would be a clip of him saying that, where?

Probably on YouTube i'd imagine.

Story here:

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/07/obama-verbal-slip-fuels-his-critics/

Yep, there it is. Thanks for your courtesy. I'm surprised you'd be a McCain supporter but we all have our reasons for what we do and believe.

Peace and respect

As coined by someone else who sums it up perfectly :

Jesus was a community organizer, and Pontius Pilate was a governor.

This should be shouted from the rooftops . Why does the McCain campaign hate Jesus ?

Oh, so it was his convention, huh? Geez. And here I thought it was for the people. What was I thinking?

jay @ 1:

In the same interview, Obama had a Freudian slipped and said "my Muslim faith".

Now as a McCain supporter, I know he's not a Muslim. never thought it, and frankly the attempts to smear him with that are ludicrous at best.

That being said, I have to admit i laughed a little with the pic in my hed of his campaign advisors all smacking themselves in the forehead simultaneously and yelling "Doh!"

:-)

Yes Jay, I heard Obama slip and say that. Trust me, you surely don't want to play count the gaffes with McDementia buddy.

Left&Left @ 15:

jay @ 1:

In the same interview, Obama had a Freudian slipped and said "my Muslim faith".

Now as a McCain supporter, I know he's not a Muslim. never thought it, and frankly the attempts to smear him with that are ludicrous at best.

That being said, I have to admit i laughed a little with the pic in my hed of his campaign advisors all smacking themselves in the forehead simultaneously and yelling "Doh!"

:-)

Yes Jay, I heard Obama slip and say that. Trust me, you surely don't want to play count the gaffes with McDementia buddy.

Sorry, but Mccain has nothingto do with that, just as McCains gaffe's have nothing to do with Obama.

Just political humor..pure and simple.

The best quote I heard all day for the religious folks on the right:

Jesus was a community organizer.....and Pontius Pilate was a governor.

IdiotShrub @ 5:

Only in Amerika could a could a war candidate bent on "catching history", be neck-and-neck in the polls with a candidate so bent on the future and creating history. Are our people be so embarrassingly ill-informed, ignorant and illiterate? How could this be possible?

add racist and blood-thirsty to your list, and the gap closes.

In the interview, Stuffinevelopes pressed Obama on the ridiculous talking point about "bucking your own party." Obama started off great, but faltered a bit.

Seriously folks, the McCain camp has played the Maverick card so well, that the media is pushing the meme that McCain is good because he has worked against the Republicans, and then seeks to find out when Obama worked against the Democrats.

Unfortunately, Obama often provides examples. That's the wrong way to answer this nonsense.

Here's what he should say, "Have you noticed that the McCain camp likes to talk about how McCain has a record of bucking his own party? You know why they like to talk about that? Because the Republicans are always wrong! And they're proud that they now have a candidate who has realized that at times? John McCain has recognized when we've been right, and worked with us on occasion. That's a strong point for them? Please! Do I buck my party a lot? No! Because we've been right on everything from health care to the war for the decade they've been in charge ruining the country. Seriously, you like that McCain works with the Democrats sometimes, vote for me. I am a Democrat!"

The reason the Republican elites hate the idea of community service is because community service is what they have to do when their old man doesn't have enough money or political pull to get them off with only a warning.

jay @ 1:

In the same interview, Obama had a Freudian slipped and said "my Muslim faith".

Now as a McCain supporter, I know he's not a Muslim. never thought it, and frankly the attempts to smear him with that are ludicrous at best.

That being said, I have to admit i laughed a little with the pic in my hed of his campaign advisors all smacking themselves in the forehead simultaneously and yelling "Doh!"

:-)

McCain claims to have gotten comfort during his time as a POW from an Abba song. A song that was not even released until 2 years after he was released - did you hear about that?

jay @ 1:

In the same interview, Obama had a Freudian slipped and said "my Muslim faith".

Now as a McCain supporter, I know he's not a Muslim. never thought it, and frankly the attempts to smear him with that are ludicrous at best.

That being said, I have to admit i laughed a little with the pic in my hed of his campaign advisors all smacking themselves in the forehead simultaneously and yelling "Doh!"

:-)

ya...but you made sure to point it out...and take it out of context...thx

with all due respect, your vp went to church for 20 years where they speak in tongues...and she sat by while director of the jews for jesus stated that jews deserved to die at the hands of terrorists, and that observant jews were evil

but im not saying that she hates jews, or is insane for thinking that screaming 'BLAHIUFIJAKAJNFKHEKTHAKHGLKANTLKEANTLKANTLKANTK;NL;" is speaking in tongues

GET THE FUCK OFF MY BOARD

Chicken "Hussein" Little - Not! @ 22:

jay @ 14:

Chicken "Hussein" Little - Not! @ 9:

jay @ 6:

Yep, there it is. Thanks for your courtesy. I'm surprised you'd be a McCain supporter but we all have our reasons for what we do and believe.

Peace and respect

Apprieciate the kind words. For the record, I just think its time a REAL Vet wa commader in chief for once. not one who avoided the draft ....whetehr that be thru deferrments, or hiding out in the Texas national guard.

Tell you the truth, My dream ticket would be McCain/Biden.

oh well....

Jay as a fellow Vietnam Vet I can appreciate your sentiment. Personally I feel like the baby boomers have already done enough damage through their collective willingness to sacrifice just about anyone and anything in the quest for material acquisition and leisure. The greatest generation didn't reign us in and we've run roughshod (in my opinion) over the planet allowing the likes of GWB to be at the helm for 8 years. I'm looking forward and am ready to let a new generation see if they can help undo some of the mess.

I respect McCain's service and sacrifice but I fear the effects of over 5 years of brutal treatment have rendered him unfit for command. In 2000 I might have considered him but the 2008 model is simply not seaworthy. I hope you'll keep an open mind during these remaining 60 days and perhaps have a change of mind considering that Obama has aligned himself with someone we both have respect for.

As a combat vet myself, I respect the point of view. I'm always open minded and will continue to be so. Frankly, the one thing that might drag me towards Obama would be if McCain came out and categorically refused to sign the same stem cell research bill that's been presented twice now...as president.

While my politics are conservative, i'm also a pragmatist. I think scientific questions should be left to science....go figure.

Abraham Jackemoff @ 21:

IdiotShrub @ 5:

Only in Amerika could a could a war candidate bent on "catching history", be neck-and-neck in the polls with a candidate so bent on the future and creating history. Are our people be so embarrassingly ill-informed, ignorant and illiterate? How could this be possible?

add racist and blood-thirsty to your list, and the gap closes.

A McPOW victory (with his ANGRY, solutionless, evil militant VP) will simply be a win for fear and bigotry.....Grandpa has no business contesting this Presidential race.

Uncle Joe Mccarthy @ 29:

jay @ 1:

In the same interview, Obama had a Freudian slipped and said "my Muslim faith".

Now as a McCain supporter, I know he's not a Muslim. never thought it, and frankly the attempts to smear him with that are ludicrous at best.

That being said, I have to admit i laughed a little with the pic in my hed of his campaign advisors all smacking themselves in the forehead simultaneously and yelling "Doh!"

:-)

ya...but you made sure to point it out...and take it out of context...thx

with all due respect, your vp went to church for 20 years where they speak in tongues...and she sat by while director of the jews for jesus stated that jews deserved to die at the hands of terrorists, and that observant jews were evil

but im not saying that she hates jews, or is insane for thinking that screaming 'BLAHIUFIJAKAJNFKHEKTHAKHGLKANTLKEANTLKANTLKANTK;NL;" is speaking in tongues

GET THE FUCK OFF MY BOARD

Unnecessary

Chicken "Hussein" Little - Not! @ 3:

jay @ 1:

In the same interview, Obama had a Freudian slipped and said "my Muslim faith".

Now as a McCain supporter, I know he's not a Muslim. never thought it, and frankly the attempts to smear him with that are ludicrous at best.

That being said, I have to admit i laughed a little with the pic in my hed of his campaign advisors all smacking themselves in the forehead simultaneously and yelling "Doh!"

:-)

And there would be a clip of him saying that, where?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMUgNg7aD8M

Palins more popular now with "them" then McCain.

Talk about gullible.

This is all white noise, smoke and mirrors designed to distract the "OOOH! Bright! Shiny!" American people from examining that McCain is old and now, powerless.

He wanted Lieberman or Ridge, but the Right saddled him with Palin. He has capititulated on almost everything he used to at least profess to believe (I have neither the time nor inclination to look into his soul) and what remains is a shell of a man.

If Bush and, yes, Reagan were marionettes with other, more powerful men behind the scenes pulling the strings, McCain is a sock puppet with big X's where the eyes would be.

Please, focus on the real issue - McCain is not fit to be president. Like I said, everything else in white noise and distraction.

PEACE

AndrewK @ 36:

Teri from Ohio @ 24:
"his excuse is that it was just her responding to them saying something about her being a mayor of a small town"
Am I missing something?? Wasn't she the mayor of a small town? So it's OK to diss community organizers? Pathetic!

It is a bit sad that this tactic works. They'll dig up a perceived smear against them, and then justify a new smear by saying "they did it first." Apparently, US politics is a game of King of the Castle.

That's exactly what McCain was saying. Obama denigrated Palin's mayoralty, so she denigrated his community organizing. He responded the way a third grader would.

Why wasn't McCain asked aboput his infamous temper? Pushing the old lady in a wheelchair is incredible.

Karen @ 23:

In the interview, Stuffinevelopes pressed Obama on the ridiculous talking point about "bucking your own party." Obama started off great, but faltered a bit.

Seriously folks, the McCain camp has played the Maverick card so well, that the media is pushing the meme that McCain is good because he has worked against the Republicans, and then seeks to find out when Obama worked against the Democrats.

Unfortunately, Obama often provides examples. That's the wrong way to answer this nonsense.

Here's what he should say, "Have you noticed that the McCain camp likes to talk about how McCain has a record of bucking his own party? You know why they like to talk about that? Because the Republicans are always wrong! And they're proud that they now have a candidate who has realized that at times? John McCain has recognized when we've been right, and worked with us on occasion. That's a strong point for them? Please! Do I buck my party a lot? No! Because we've been right on everything from health care to the war for the decade they've been in charge ruining the country. Seriously, you like that McCain works with the Democrats sometimes, vote for me. I am a Democrat!"

Excellent. Any Obama aides out there? Take this to the man!

mccain is an idiot. I cannot believe he keeps coming with the same maverick thing, "I disagreed with my party a lot" of course you did you tool, but when you did it meant you agreed with the dems (Obama), so why should Obama disagree with his party? Duh! The man is so mind numbingly stupid it's breath taking.

McCain has no control over his campaign. He barely has control over his bowel movements and that depends on depends.

Yeah, it was all in response to Karl Rove's denigrating the whole mayor/governor thing when he was talking about somebody else. Now we've gotten to the bottom of that one, my friends.

He says he's taken on his party a lot. He's such a fucking liar. He has rolled over and adopted every shitty idea they hold dear. My head is going to explode before this election is over.

Ali@55, I'm ready to explode. I find myself reaching for my Prozac.

Gretchen the aspiring elitist @ 52:

jay @ 31:

Chicken "Hussein" Little - Not! @ 22:

jay @ 14:

Jay as a fellow Vietnam Vet I can appreciate your sentiment. Personally I feel like the baby boomers have already done enough damage through their collective willingness to sacrifice just about anyone and anything in the quest for material acquisition and leisure. The greatest generation didn't reign us in and we've run roughshod (in my opinion) over the planet allowing the likes of GWB to be at the helm for 8 years. I'm looking forward and am ready to let a new generation see if they can help undo some of the mess.

I respect McCain's service and sacrifice but I fear the effects of over 5 years of brutal treatment have rendered him unfit for command. In 2000 I might have considered him but the 2008 model is simply not seaworthy. I hope you'll keep an open mind during these remaining 60 days and perhaps have a change of mind considering that Obama has aligned himself with someone we both have respect for.

As a combat vet myself, I respect the point of view. I'm always open minded and will continue to be so. Frankly, the one thing that might drag me towards Obama would be if McCain came out and categorically refused to sign the same stem cell research bill that's been presented twice now...as president.

While my politics are conservative, i'm also a pragmatist. I think scientific questions should be left to science....go figure.

Jay, keep your eyes on that issue. The religious right and prominent evangelicals have become a driving force behind McCain's campaign. They had a hand in Palin's selection and are now out in full-force to pull in as many voters as possible. Their primary point is with McCain's statement in the Saddleback forum that he would be a pro-life president all the way that is going to bring some big changes for them. Overturning abortion laws would be a start, but stem cell research is on their list and would be an easier target than abortion. McCain will be in 'debt' to them if elected. Don't think they won't be calling that debt in!

Yep, The Council for National Policy The assembled were members of the Council for National Policy, an ultra-secretive cabal that networks wealthy right-wing donors together with top conservative operatives to plan long-term movement strategy.

CNP members have included Tony Perkins, James Dobson, Grover Norquist, Tim LaHaye and Paul Weyrich. At a secret 2000 meeting of the CNP, George W. Bush promised to nominate only pro-life judges; in 2004, then-Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist told the group, "The destiny of the nation is on the shoulders of the conservative movement." This year, thanks to Sarah Palin's selection, the movement may have finally aligned itself behind the campaign of John McCain.

"My point it Obama will be smeared for the next week to 10 days…as long as they can keep it going."--- Harley at 44

Next ten days ? They will smear him from now until Nov. 4th . What they can't twist out of context they will manufacture . They will be relentless and vicious. And it will originate from the office of the King of Smears, Karl Rove, who torpedoed McCain's campaign so well in 2000 that McPOWain had to swallow hard and hire him in 2008 .

McCain is a lying, hotheaded klutz but he will be the next president unless Obama can neutralize the Rovian battleship as effectively as McCain neutralized the U.S.S. Forrestall .

Watch George Stuffinenvelopes further the "Obama will increase your taxes" meme rather than extract real information about Obama's plans. The following is from the interview:

Stuffinevelopes: Yesterday that unemployment report came out, and here's what John McCain said. He said, 'My tax cuts will create jobs; his tax increases will eliminate them.'

Obama: Yeah, you know, John McCain has been peddling this story about me increasing taxes when every independent analyst has said my tax cuts provide three times the amount of tax relief to middle class families than do John McCain's. I mean, what he wants to do is essentially to not only continue the Bush tax cuts to the very wealthiest Americans, but he wants to double down with $200 billion in additional tax cuts to corporate America, including companies like Exxon Mobile. And what I have said is, Let's provide tax cuts to 95% of the American people. Because I have a different economic theory than George Bush's and John McCain's.

Stuffinevelopes: So, you---

Obama: I believe that the economy's going to grow from the bottom up, and if we give some relief to middle class families, they're going to do better.

Stuffinevelopes: Actually, the Tax Policy Institute says it's 81% of the American people; it's 95% families with children, but they also say you raise revenues by $600 billion over the next 10 years; he cuts revenues by $600 billion over the next 10 years. If we're in a recession or approaching one, is it wise to raise revenues in any way?

Obama: Well, I think it is wise if you've got half a trillion dollar deficit. I think it makes sense for us to make sure we're paying for what we're purchasing. If we're continuing to spend $10 billion a month in Iraq, we can't keep on borrowing that on a credit card from the Chinese. So, you know, John McCain likes to talk about fiscal responsibility, but there is no doubt that his proposals blow a hole through the budget. And, you know, what I've said is, realistically, we're not going to be able to eliminate that budget deficit, but what we can do is stabilize it, stop digging a hole, give a tax break to middle class families, give them some relief, and that will start growing the economy again.

Stuffinevelopes: So, even if we're in a recession next January, you come into office, you still go through with your tax increases?

Obama No, no, no, no, no, no! What I've said, George, is that even if we're still in a recession, I'm going to go through with my tax cuts. That's my priority.

Stuffinevelopes: But not the increases?

Obama: I think we've got to take a look an see where the economy is.

Lilybelle @ 4:

In part the smear against community organizers is part of the Republican assault on communities and the very idea of society. For them, there is only a collection of me's. .. I think we call them out on not valuing communities.

Agreed.

Capitalism destroys the traditional community and its social infrastructure, and replaces it with corporate alternatives for the individual.

For instance, seniors no longer care for the youngest children while mom & dad do their work and the older kids are at school. Now mom & dad pay for childcare, and pay for their parents' retirement home.

Instead of having our needs satisfied by being cooperative members of a community, we become financially enslaved to the corporate alternative.

Abraham Jackemoff @ 62:

Mike @ 60:

jay @ 14:

Chicken "Hussein" Little - Not! @ 9:

Apprieciate the kind words. For the record, I just think its time a REAL Vet wa commader in chief for once. not one who avoided the draft ....whetehr that be thru deferrments, or hiding out in the Texas national guard.

Tell you the truth, My dream ticket would be McCain/Biden.

oh well....

I'm a vet and I agree, I would like to see a veteran as our commander in chief. But not McCain.. He has voted against veterans issues way too many times..

Voted several times against increased funding the VA says they need, in a time of war when the veteran patients is ever increasing.

Didn't bother to show up to vote for the new GI Bill, but was strongly against it.

He supports the troops in words only..

He DID put a picture of Walter Reed Middle School on the backdrop during his convention address.

Did you know that he was also a POW?

Karen @ 38:

Uncle Joe Mccarthy @ 29:

jay @ 1:

In the same interview, Obama had a Freudian slipped and said "my Muslim faith".

Now as a McCain supporter, I know he's not a Muslim. never thought it, and frankly the attempts to smear him with that are ludicrous at best.

That being said, I have to admit i laughed a little with the pic in my hed of his campaign
advisors all smacking themselves in the forehead simultaneously and yelling "Doh!"

:-)

ya...but you made sure to point it out...and take it out of context...thx

with all due respect, your vp went to church for 20 years where they speak in tongues...and she sat by while director of the jews for jesus stated that jews deserved to die at the hands of terrorists, and that observant jews were evil

but im not saying that she hates jews, or is insane for thinking that screaming 'BLAHIUFIJAKAJNFKHEKTHAKHGLKANTLKEANTLKANTLKANTK;NL;" is speaking in tongues

GET THE FUCK OFF MY BOARD

Whoa, come on. Jay conceded that any attempt to smear Obama as a Muslim (I'm not sure why that's a smear in the first place) is "ludicrous," and only pointed out that his campaign workers might be concerned about the particular wording. Knowing full well that Republican operatives would love to take that out of context if they think it will work for them, I imagine many on the campaign did get tense during that moment.

Jay's been having polite discussions. What's with the hostility? Your board? Since when is it yours?

I think it might be that some of us can see the real damage done to our country under this hypocritical theocratic administration full of self-proclaimed born-again Christians who have been exposed for their corruption and lies. Bush and DeLay are strong Evangelicals just like your Virgin Mary, Ms. Palin. I think most here would agree that McCain, though he "says" he disagrees with the Religious Right on many issues, his selection of his VP has shown to be a cynical one to appease these Pharisees of the right. After 8 years of Bush and his delusional spiritual advisors such as Robertson, Haggard, and Falwell, it sort of leaves a bad taste in our mouths for McCain water-carriers such as yourself.

SO GET THE FUCK OFF OUR BOARD!

Uncle Joe Mccarthy @ 29:

jay @ 1:

In the same interview, Obama had a Freudian slipped and said "my Muslim faith".

Now as a McCain supporter, I know he's not a Muslim. never thought it, and frankly the attempts to smear him with that are ludicrous at best.

That being said, I have to admit i laughed a little with the pic in my hed of his campaign advisors all smacking themselves in the forehead simultaneously and yelling "Doh!"

:-)

ya...but you made sure to point it out...and take it out of context...thx

with all due respect, your vp went to church for 20 years where they speak in tongues...and she sat by while director of the jews for jesus stated that jews deserved to die at the hands of terrorists, and that observant jews were evil

but im not saying that she hates jews, or is insane for thinking that screaming 'BLAHIUFIJAKAJNFKHEKTHAKHGLKANTLKEANTLKANTLKANTK;NL;" is speaking in tongues

GET THE FUCK OFF MY BOARD

Hey, our broad. And hopefully, we are intelligent enough and wise enough to not insult anyone who is willing listen at another point of view - and do it politely.

Scott @ 66:

Well, whatever he said, Obama's losing the battle. McCain now tops Obama in the Gallup. Get ready for four more years, and voters STILL asking themselves: "How did things get so screwed up??"

Feel free to ignore national polls. Not only does the presidential candidate always increase his share of the national polls after his convention, but we do not have, and never have had, national elections in this country.

All that matters is the state-by-state breakdown. Obama's still winning that. Always has been. We should not be complacent, as this will be a tough fight. But the electoral college is ours to lose this time.

Barbara @ 72:

Barbara @ 71:

Uncle Joe Mccarthy @ 29:

jay @ 1:

ya...but you made sure to point it out...and take it out of context...thx

with all due respect, your vp went to church for 20 years where they speak in tongues...and she sat by while director of the jews for jesus stated that jews deserved to die at the hands of terrorists, and that observant jews were evil

but im not saying that she hates jews, or is insane for thinking that screaming 'BLAHIUFIJAKAJNFKHEKTHAKHGLKANTLKEANTLKANTLKANTK;NL;" is speaking in tongues

GET THE FUCK OFF MY BOARD

Hey, our broad. And hopefully, we are intelligent enough and wise enough to not insult anyone who is willing listen at another point of view - and do it politely.

Oh, Barbara, Barbara - try not to type at night - Our Board - not broad! Duh

I thought you were saying that you are our broad and I haven't even met you yet.

JGR @ 69:

Karen @ 38:

Uncle Joe Mccarthy @ 29:

jay @ 1:

ya...but you made sure to point it out...and take it out of context...thx

with all due respect, your vp went to church for 20 years where they speak in tongues...and she sat by while director of the jews for jesus stated that jews deserved to die at the hands of terrorists, and that observant jews were evil

but im not saying that she hates jews, or is insane for thinking that screaming 'BLAHIUFIJAKAJNFKHEKTHAKHGLKANTLKEANTLKANTLKANTK;NL;" is speaking in tongues

GET THE FUCK OFF MY BOARD

Whoa, come on. Jay conceded that any attempt to smear Obama as a Muslim (I'm not sure why that's a smear in the first place) is "ludicrous," and only pointed out that his campaign workers might be concerned about the particular wording. Knowing full well that Republican operatives would love to take that out of context if they think it will work for them, I imagine many on the campaign did get tense during that moment.

Jay's been having polite discussions. What's with the hostility? Your board? Since when is it yours?

I think it might be that some of us can see the real damage done to our country under this hypocritical theocratic administration full of self-proclaimed born-again Christians who have been exposed for their corruption and lies. Bush and DeLay are strong Evangelicals just like your Virgin Mary, Ms. Palin. I think most here would agree that McCain, though he "says" he disagrees with the Religious Right on many issues, his selection of his VP has shown to be a cynical one to appease these Pharisees of the right. After 8 years of Bush and his delusional spiritual advisors such as Robertson, Haggard, and Falwell, it sort of leaves a bad taste in our mouths for McCain water-carriers such as yourself.

SO GET THE FUCK OFF OUR BOARD!

You're saying that to me? You're way off base. I simply acknowledged that Jay was engaging in polite debate.

By the way, I don't think I've ever seen your moniker here. C&L knows me well, on the other hand. So, could you kindly refrain from fucking up this board?

Karen @ 43:

AndrewK @ 36:

Teri from Ohio @ 24:
"his excuse is that it was just her responding to them saying something about her being a mayor of a small town"
Am I missing something?? Wasn't she the mayor of a small town? So it's OK to diss community organizers? Pathetic!

It is a bit sad that this tactic works. They'll dig up a perceived smear against them, and then justify a new smear by saying "they did it first." Apparently, US politics is a game of King of the Castle.

That's exactly what McCain was saying. Obama denigrated Palin's mayoralty, so she denigrated his community organizing. He responded the way a third grader would.

Tell me exactly when Obama said this - HE NEVER HAS! He NEVER "denigrated" her being a mayor. Obama stated FACTS about her being a mayor of a small town. Of course your being a McCain follower wouldn't know what a fact is. How is wanting young people to do community service, acting like a third grader? She's the one acting like a third grader - she wasn't "denigrating" Obama, she was "denigrating" all of us who have been community organizers!

Teri from Ohio @ 79:

Karen @ 43:

AndrewK @ 36:

Teri from Ohio @ 24:
"his excuse is that it was just her responding to them saying something about her being a mayor of a small town"
Am I missing something?? Wasn't she the mayor of a small town? So it's OK to diss community organizers? Pathetic!

It is a bit sad that this tactic works. They'll dig up a perceived smear against them, and then justify a new smear by saying "they did it first." Apparently, US politics is a game of King of the Castle.

That's exactly what McCain was saying. Obama denigrated Palin's mayoralty, so she denigrated his community organizing. He responded the way a third grader would.

Tell me exactly when Obama said this - HE NEVER HAS! He NEVER "denigrated" her being a mayor. Obama stated FACTS about her being a mayor of a small town. Of course your being a McCain follower wouldn't know what a fact is. How is wanting young people to do community service, acting like a third grader? She's the one acting like a third grader - she wasn't "denigrating" Obama, she was "denigrating" all of us who have been community organizers!

I think you misunderstood me. I'm saying that McCain responded like a third-grader. McCain said, "Yeah, we picked on him because he picked on us. Na na!"

And you're right, Obama has never denigrated Palin's mayoralty.

I'm still voting for Obama.

P.D. @ 40:

Everyone I know is pretty much insulted. Many of them are people who organize events and many of them are PTO mothers. I thought Palin was a PTO mom. If so, she just insulted them.

I've also read many, many comments saying that her line about community organizers was highly insulting and mean spirited. I think we need to apprise Biden of this fact though because, today on MTP, he told Brokaw he thought it was a "great line". Is there some strategy in his voicing appreciation for Palin's comment that I'm missing here?

Something's up with the quote button here....fixing formatting.....

Teri from Ohio @ 79:

Karen @ 43:

AndrewK @ 36:

It is a bit sad that this tactic works. They'll dig up a perceived smear against them, and then justify a new smear by saying "they did it first." Apparently, US politics is a game of King of the Castle.

That's exactly what McCain was saying. Obama denigrated Palin's mayoralty, so she denigrated his community organizing. He responded the way a third grader would.

Tell me exactly when Obama said this - HE NEVER HAS! He NEVER "denigrated" her being a mayor. Obama stated FACTS about her being a mayor of a small town. Of course your being a McCain follower wouldn't know what a fact is. How is wanting young people to do community service, acting like a third grader? She's the one acting like a third grader - she wasn't "denigrating" Obama, she was "denigrating" all of us who have been community organizers!

I think you misunderstood me. I’m saying that McCain responded like a third-grader. McCain said, “Yeah, we picked on him because he picked on us. Na na!”

And you’re right, Obama has never denigrated Palin’s mayoralty.

Why is nobody talking about this:

http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/518522.html

and this:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/07/politics/main4423486.shtml

Please read them.

http://themediaelite.blogspot.com/

iraqconcilable @ 11:

As coined by someone else who sums it up perfectly :

Jesus was a community organizer, and Pontius Pilate was a governor.

This should be shouted from the rooftops . Why does the McCain campaign hate Jesus ?

oh my dear lard , i just knew obama was jezus!

If, as McSame says, he has "taken (the GOP) on a lot" on many issues, doesn't that mean he and his party aren't particularly compatible? Why is he representing his party nationally if he disagrees with it so often?
I don't think being a contrarian dick with your political party all the time is particularly praiseworthy or a qualification for president.
But that's just me. Your mileage may vary.

I'm surprised he didn't answer with, "I spent 5 years in a cage with no community organizer."

Truthy Guy @ 89:

Why is nobody talking about this:

http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/518522.html

and this:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/07/politics/main4423486.shtml

Please read them.

http://themediaelite.blogspot.com/

Thank you for paying attention to what's really going on.

Nobody is talking about this because they are too busy being brainwashed.

Sarah Palin is the warmest, bravest, most wonderful woman I have ever known... Sarah Palin is the warmest, bravest, most wonderful woman I have ever known... Sarah Palin is the warmest, bravest, most wonderful woman I have ever known...

tyree @ 91:

iraqconcilable @ 11:

As coined by someone else who sums it up perfectly :

Jesus was a community organizer, and Pontius Pilate was a governor.

This should be shouted from the rooftops . Why does the McCain campaign hate Jesus ?

oh my dear lard , i just knew obama was jezus!

Well, Obama certainly shares Jesus' humility and compassion for humanity.

Just read this on Drudge:

MSNBC drops Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews from anchor chair... David Gregory will anchor news coverage of the coming debates and election night.... Developing...

Well, I hope all you folks pointing to other polls putting Obama ahead are right. How closely did the Gallup match the results of 2004 shortly before the election? And even if this is just a post convention bounce, shouldn't the dems have cancelled it out with theirs'? I think the only difference the convention made was energizing the right with Palin, assuring they'll actaully get to the polls. I have a bad feeling about this. Obama-fatigue sets in and McCain, ALWAYS a safe choice with his grandfatherly image and POW biography, gets the low-information (read: majority) vote. Four more years.

The right has long been schizophrenic over the concept of "community". For example, throwing a community fund raiser to help pay for someone's doctor bills (and therefore keeping that person from asking for govt handouts) is virtuous, whereas organizing the community to put pressure on the HMO that denied coverage to that person (and therefore threatening big campaign donors) is somehow socialistic and "unamerican".

As usual, they're trying to have it both ways, blissfully oblivious to the cognitive dissonance that results.

Lisa Williamson @ 104:

tyree @ 101:

Lisa Williamson @ 98:

tyree @ 91:

Well, Obama certainly shares Jesus' humility and compassion for humanity.

amen brother!

(sister)

your a nun? k amen sister!

Scott @ 102:

Well, I hope all you folks pointing to other polls putting Obama ahead are right. How closely did the Gallup match the results of 2004 shortly before the election? And even if this is just a post convention bounce, shouldn't the dems have cancelled it out with theirs'? I think the only difference the convention made was energizing the right with Palin, assuring they'll actaully get to the polls. I have a bad feeling about this. Obama-fatigue sets in and McCain, ALWAYS a safe choice with his grandfatherly image and POW biography, gets the low-information (read: majority) vote. Four more years.

Teri from Ohio @ 79:

Karen @ 43:

AndrewK @ 36:

Teri from Ohio @ 24:
"his excuse is that it was just her responding to them saying something about her being a mayor of a small town"
Am I missing something?? Wasn't she the mayor of a small town? So it's OK to diss community organizers? Pathetic!

It is a bit sad that this tactic works. They'll dig up a perceived smear against them, and then justify a new smear by saying "they did it first." Apparently, US politics is a game of King of the Castle.

That's exactly what McCain was saying. Obama denigrated Palin's mayoralty, so she denigrated his community organizing. He responded the way a third grader would.

Tell me exactly when Obama said this - HE NEVER HAS! He NEVER "denigrated" her being a mayor. Obama stated FACTS about her being a mayor of a small town. Of course your being a McCain follower wouldn't know what a fact is. How is wanting young people to do community service, acting like a third grader? She's the one acting like a third grader - she wasn't "denigrating" Obama, she was "denigrating" all of us who have been community organizers!

well allow me to denigrate her being the mayor of a small town

wasilla is the meth capitol of alaska....this occured subsequent to her being mayor...so im taking it that she made it easier for drug dealers to move in and have a customer base

people use drugs when they are miserable

she left the town with a 20 million dollar deficit...she entered when they had no debts

she built a 15 million dollar sports facility by raising taxes (for that she believes in raising taxes....bush did the same when he conned the good people of arlington into building him a ball park)

and this is why the truth about wasilla and alaska must come out and not just within the blogosphere

the truth about wasilla is middle america's worst nightmare

a power mad mayor who opened the town for unfettered development by box stores and strip malls

who left the town with a 20 million dollar debt and high unemployment....leading to....wasilla being the meth capitol of alaska

and its time to post all the birth announcements from that all american city....with well over 60 percent being to unwed mothers and unmarried couples

wasilla is a den of iniquity....sarah palin is the bride of the devil (ted stevens)

ruffmama @ 100:

Just read this on Drudge:

MSNBC drops Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews from anchor chair... David Gregory will anchor news coverage of the coming debates and election night.... Developing...

ya...and ko wasnt supposed to be at the rnc either

drudge is a nasty old drag queen

will someone please send that man a new butt blug so he will finally stfu

Scott @ 102:

Well, I hope all you folks pointing to other polls putting Obama ahead are right. How closely did the Gallup match the results of 2004 shortly before the election? And even if this is just a post convention bounce, shouldn't the dems have cancelled it out with theirs'? I think the only difference the convention made was energizing the right with Palin, assuring they'll actaully get to the polls. I have a bad feeling about this. Obama-fatigue sets in and McCain, ALWAYS a safe choice with his grandfatherly image and POW biography, gets the low-information (read: majority) vote. Four more years.

Take a deep breath then go read Nate Silver for a little perspective.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/09/patience-poll-watchers.html

This certainly is a tolerant board, more power to it. Tolerates both rightie troll dolls and vulgar self-defeating lefties. Pretty much what a free society has to do. As they say; "Freedom isn't free."

I guess I'm feeling 'uppity,' but I am tired of the racist, sexist, and arrogant assumption by Republican media consultants that most all Americans are morons who resent an education or reading a book. And while they're at it, why don't they call Barack Obama a "N****r" community organizer. Come on, that's what they're flirting all around the table doing. Palin is a religious nut and a racist. "Hockey mom" = racist. Boys up North with sticks who hit who brag on their website that they "kick ass" while they try to knock up my teen age daughter. Palin is just a good Bundsman who wants those nice Aryan babies. Sorry if that sounds 'harsh' but so does calling a man an "Uppity N****r" like our Atlanta friend professes not to have done.

“It’s curious to me that they would mock that..."

That's a bona fide real John Kerry Wimpy Ass reply. This guy is gonna lose sure a sh*t.

Bogie @ 117:

ruffmama @ 19:

The best quote I heard all day for the religious folks on the right:

Jesus was a community organizer.....and Pontius Pilate was a governor.

Of course this will be turned around by the evangelicals, accusing us of comparing Obama to Jebus...

I say, I say, that's blasphemy, son!

My knowledge of Jesus' behavior is that it was a far cry from the despicable hatefulness of those who profess most loudly to be His followers.

Johnny2Bad @ 116:

“It’s curious to me that they would mock that..."

That's a bona fide real John Kerry Wimpy Ass reply. This guy is gonna lose sure a sh*t.

Barack Obama will lose nothing. Regardless of the outcome, he will have his integrity and authenticity intact on the day after Election Day, unlike the vast majority of people who are so effusively railing against him.

The reason the repubs mock Obama for Community service???

Because it wasn't their idea

Johnny2Bad @ 119:

Left&Left @ 97:

hope @ 85:

P.D. @ 40:

I've also read many, many comments saying that her line about community organizers was highly insulting and mean spirited. I think we need to apprise Biden of this fact though because, today on MTP, he told Brokaw he thought it was a "great line". Is there some strategy in his voicing appreciation for Palin's comment that I'm missing here?

Biden is sandbagging that evil bitch.....he's setting her up for the debate.

"...that evil bitch..."
,
Leftie misogynist BS never gets called out. As long as the "bitch" is on the Right.

Try the "guilties" with a "bleeding heart" jerk, I don't give a shit. Sarah Palin is a lying, manipulative, solutionless, secessionist, anti-woman, Dick Cheney(only with a bigger dick),evil bitch!
I'm not interested at all in "making nice" until we take this country out of you and your friends toilet.

In McCain's speech, he asked people to enlist, volunteer and get involved in their community's.
I think I'm living in the Twilight ZoNe. Paging Rod Serling?

Well Queen Sarah thinks the life of her baby and the laws of her state are "petty". Read more how she endangered the life of her baby, Trig, once again. Laws are for the "little people". So let it be written, so let it be done! Got this from Perez Hilton.

http://perezhilton.com/2008-09-07-another-palin-spears-connection

The Palins are soooo the Spears family of Alaska!

Like the Spears, the Palins have a knocked up teenaged daughter.

AND, like the Spears, it looks like the Palins sometimes poo poo the whole notion of child safety seats.

We were shocked to read the following report:

One Friday in June, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin joined the chief of the state prison system on a tour of the Point MacKenzie Correctional Farm, a 90-minute drive north of Anchorage. It was a routine visit but for the presence of the governor's infant son, Trig.

Palin held her baby in her arms as the warden drove a short distance around the facility, said corrections director Joe Schmidt, who sat next to Palin. A few days later, the governor got a warning from her public safety commissioner that someone had complained that she did not strap Trig into a car seat for the ride. Palin dismissed the complaint as petty, and the commissioner, whom she appointed, took no formal action.

Petty?!?!

Someone's concern for Palin's disabled son's life was dismissed by her as petty?!?

Yikes!

Johnny2Bad @ 116:

“It’s curious to me that they would mock that..."

That's a bona fide real John Kerry Wimpy Ass reply. This guy is gonna lose sure a sh*t.

Now that right there is a MAVRICK. Just keep on keeping it real.

Bruce @ 130:

Bush Sr.'s "Thousand points of light" are not the people active outside the government and making a difference for their community. Those thousand points of light are the holes in the Republican government safety net, as seen from beneath by those who have slipped through.

A well crafted analogy. Repuke government is of the people, by the people and for the people as long as your definition of "people" is those in the upper 2% based on wealth. The rest of us, we are only of value as long as we serve some useful purpose for "the people." If you are of no value you are expendable and of no consequence and thus discardable.

The many sheeple hooked by the jingoistic rhetoric reminds me of chickens voting for the Colonel for President.

link doesn't seem to work. I've attempted to view for the last hour or so. I Don't think my 'puter is broke.

Of course the GOP and the republicans are opposed to community service, it is a foul and offensive denial of the right of corporations to exploit the people when they are most at need. Imagine community service provide obscene free assistance to people after a natural disaster instead of righteously blessed no bid contracts, what right do those volunteer animals have to do work for free and deny corporations their right of unlimited greed and profit. Is anybody really surprised that the republicans decry non-profit community service as somehow lacking responsibility, the true underlying nature of them mocking voluntarily free community service is clearly defined, sociopathic greed, they see no value in community service because there is no profit in it.

Julie-ani's pause for laughter when he talked about obamas past as a community organizer was quite possibly the most vile moment of the incredibly vile RNC. The way the whole room laughed summed repugs up perfectly. selfish greedy disgusting pigs.

NoGWBpolicyleftinplace @ 136:

Republican's mocking people who are helping others. Does anything say "GOP" more than this?

These GOP assholes would laugh at crippled children. How can people vote for these filthy stinking SOB's? Its rather obvious what they're all about if you have 2 I.Q. points to rub together.

I only have two sticks to rub together and still get it. Says a lot about the GOP supporters, eh? I'm so sick of this country and I'm right for saying so. 1st Ammendment! Just 'cuz I live here doesn't mean I like it. Fuck patriotism in the face of fascist rule. It's time for another civil war.

ruffmama @ 67:

Abraham Jackemoff @ 62:

Mike @ 60:

jay @ 14:

I'm a vet and I agree, I would like to see a veteran as our commander in chief. But not McCain.. He has voted against veterans issues way too many times..

Voted several times against increased funding the VA says they need, in a time of war when the veteran patients is ever increasing.

Didn't bother to show up to vote for the new GI Bill, but was strongly against it.

He supports the troops in words only..

He DID put a picture of Walter Reed Middle School on the backdrop during his convention address.

Did you know that he was also a POW?

Yes, he mentioned it briefly, I believe. But he didn't mention the propaganda films he made for the enemy. Other POWs didn't, but McCain caved. The enemy gave him the nickname "Songbird."

'Nuf said.

Bogie @ 117:

Of course this will be turned around by the evangelicals, accusing us of comparing Obama to Jebus...

I say, I say, that's blasphemy, son!

Evangelicals don't know what blasphemy MEANS. If they did, their denomination wouldn't exist.

dennis @ 142:

Sorry, but Obama is being way too defensive, here. Not sure it warrants the moniker WATB.... this time.

Obama came out firing about Palin being mayor of a very small town with a small budget and a relatively few amount of payrolled employees, and then compared numbers with those of his campaign budget. Aside from calling the name 'Wasilly', he also denigrated her experience for failing to mention her work as a governor, certainly the better comparison for obvious reasons.

Sarah Palin didn't do anything other that fire back a riposte to Obama's jab at her insignificant mayor job, so her comparison back to Obama's community organizer work with no significant achievements there was totally fair game, and one of the most memorable lines of her speech.

Of course Republicons would find being a community organizer for churches funny. The very idea of working with churches to set up job programs for unemployed steel workers or setting up after school programs for their kids or getting asbestos removed from poor families homes where they are raising children is ridiculous!

The very idea of doing anything to help someone else is just absurd to Republicons. Katrina showed the world that.