Crooks & Liars has been crashing my web browser all night long. Is it just me?

J.C. @ 1:

Crooks & Liars has been crashing my web browser all night long. Is it just me?

what's your browser?

J.C. @ 1:

Crooks & Liars has been crashing my web browser all night long. Is it just me?

which browser ?

was this taken before he was for fisa? my how hes changed!

ferrofluid (Obama + Biden = 2008) @ 4:

Bob Herbert NYT, a must read and spread opinion piece.

Hold Your Heads Up

Ignorance must really be bliss. How else, over so many years, could the G.O.P. get away with ridiculing all things liberal?

Troglodytes on the right are no respecters of reality. They say the most absurd things and hardly anyone calls them on it.

Why liberals don’t stand up to this garbage, I don’t know. Without the extraordinary contribution of liberals — from the mightiest presidents to the most unheralded protesters and organizers — the United States would be a much, much worse place than it is today.

There would be absolutely no chance that a Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton or Sarah Palin could make a credible run for the highest offices in the land. Conservatives would never have allowed it.

Civil rights? Women’s rights? Liberals went to the mat for them time and again against ugly, vicious and sometimes murderous opposition. They should be forever proud.

Bluegal,
I love your BARACK PIC

YOUR republic fambly is really on point.

thanks

J.C. @ 8:

Firefox 2.0 for Mac. I haven't had this problem until tonight.

get 3.0. now more than b4 :)

Money more money

http://tinyurl.com/6ynvzz

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 10:

Bluegal,
I love your BARACK PIC

YOUR republic fambly is really on point.

thanks

I am curious why they felt they had to use military U.S. flags, not civilian ones.

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 12:

J.C. @ 8:

Firefox 2.0 for Mac. I haven't had this problem until tonight.

get 3.0. now more than b4 :)

Will do. I'm a little behind the curve. :)

And then there is the Young Racist Republican who had to step down due to repeated racist remarks.

A must read .. a must see .. as sleazy as it gets ..
New McCain Ad Falsely Suggests Obama Wants Kids To Learn "About Sex Before Learning To Read"

.. and remember ..

"I'm John McCain and I approve this message."

dennis @ 21:

So I get the lipstick on a pig comment; either he's a total misogynist or completely daft that he didn't get the reference even after the crowd cheered it- neither one is particularly good. But what I'd like to know is, was the very next sentence about the old fish wrap and how it still stinks a reference to McCain's age or just another sexist, misogynist cut on Palin, only quite a bit more vulgar than the first?

And is this is the man liberal women think is completely on their side???

Are you being facetious or obtuse?

dennis @ 22:

So I get the lipstick on a pig comment; either he's a total misogynist or completely daft that he didn't get the reference even after the crowd cheered it- neither one is particularly good. But what I'd like to know is, was the very next sentence about the old fish wrap and how it still stinks a reference to McCain's age or just another sexist, misogynist cut on Palin, only quite a bit more vulgar than the first?

And is this is the man liberal women think is completely on their side???

Damn right he is on our side! SHE brought up the lipstick comment. Oh, but you can't say shit to or about her or her record or its sexist.

Fuck you, Dennis. You don't speak for women.

krisken @ 25:

dennis @ 21:

So I get the lipstick on a pig comment; either he's a total misogynist or completely daft that he didn't get the reference even after the crowd cheered it- neither one is particularly good. But what I'd like to know is, was the very next sentence about the old fish wrap and how it still stinks a reference to McCain's age or just another sexist, misogynist cut on Palin, only quite a bit more vulgar than the first?

And is this is the man liberal women think is completely on their side???

Are you being facetious or obtuse?

The latter.

The phrase "putting lipstick on a pig" is an American colloquialism that means, "making the unattractive superficially attractive," with overtones of futility or of a lost cause. (You can put lipstick on a pig, but in the end, it's still a pig.)

miss_kitty @ 29:

The latter.

The phrase "putting lipstick on a pig" is an American colloquialism that means, "making the unattractive superficially attractive," with overtones of futility or of a lost cause. (You can put lipstick on a pig, but in the end, it's still a pig.)

I just realised, this phrase APPLIES to dennis.

Egad, I can't even fix my posts correctly.

krisken @ 32:

krisken @ 30:

miss_kitty @ 29:

krisken @ 25:

The phrase "putting lipstick on a pig" is an American colloquialism that means, "making the unattractive superficially attractive," with overtones of futility or of a lost cause. (You can put lipstick on a pig, but in the end, it's still a pig.)

I know what it means ;) I was taking a gentle jab at the troll here.

I should probably simplify it for him though. The words I used might be too big for dennis.
The latter.

Fixed

I know YOU know what it means. I was providing the definition for my girlfriend dennis, whose ears are emitting steam as an invective-fill response is being carefully crafted in dennisworld.

:D

MsJoanne @ 27:

dennis @ 22:

So I get the lipstick on a pig comment; either he's a total misogynist or completely daft that he didn't get the reference even after the crowd cheered it- neither one is particularly good. But what I'd like to know is, was the very next sentence about the old fish wrap and how it still stinks a reference to McCain's age or just another sexist, misogynist cut on Palin, only quite a bit more vulgar than the first?

And is this is the man liberal women think is completely on their side???

Damn right he is on our side! SHE brought up the lipstick comment. Oh, but you can't say shit to or about her or her record or its sexist.

Fuck you, Dennis. You don't speak for women.

Same to you, Joanne. I never said I did. I'm just asking liberal women how many sexist passes are you going to allow him. I know how many you allowed Bill Clinton, but when will you tell this guy to cool it?

Dennis is just towing the party line, you know, having to pretend the phrase is something that it's not.

Republicans aren't too bright, you can make them believe almost anything.

OBAMA meets on Fox O'Reilly show.

Why are McCain and Palin afraid to meet with anyone other than FOX???

dennis @ 22:

So I get the lipstick on a pig comment; either he's a total misogynist or completely daft that he didn't get the reference even after the crowd cheered it- neither one is particularly good. But what I'd like to know is, was the very next sentence about the old fish wrap and how it still stinks a reference to McCain's age or just another sexist, misogynist cut on Palin, only quite a bit more vulgar than the first?

And is this is the man liberal women think is completely on their side???

The odd thing is Dennis, McCain used the same lipstick analogy when describing one Hillary Clinton's proposals. What I would like o know, Dennis, did you have the same concerns about McCain's misogyny at that time, or did you have those concerns when McCain "joked" about a gorilla raping a woman?

dennis @ 37:

MsJoanne @ 27:

dennis @ 22:

So I get the lipstick on a pig comment; either he's a total misogynist or completely daft that he didn't get the reference even after the crowd cheered it- neither one is particularly good. But what I'd like to know is, was the very next sentence about the old fish wrap and how it still stinks a reference to McCain's age or just another sexist, misogynist cut on Palin, only quite a bit more vulgar than the first?

And is this is the man liberal women think is completely on their side???

Damn right he is on our side! SHE brought up the lipstick comment. Oh, but you can't say shit to or about her or her record or its sexist.

Fuck you, Dennis. You don't speak for women.

Same to you, Joanne. I never said I did. I'm just asking liberal women how many sexist passes are you going to allow him. I know how many you allowed Bill Clinton, but when will you tell this guy to cool it?

Absolutely NOTHING to cool. Sorry, you're pissing up the wrong tree.

From a couple of articles in the UK Guardian

A BBC poll published today will show that, despite the tightness of the race in the US, Obama is the overwhelming favourite in 22 countries. He is preferred to McCain by a four to one margin on average across the 22,000 people polled.

The margin in favour of Obama ranges from just 9% in India to 82% in Kenya. On average 49% prefer Obama to 12% preferring McCain. Nearly four in 10 do not take a position.

And you just know, that if this fact became widely known in the US, it would actually work against Senator Obama. The mind reels ...

Shan @ 47:

From a couple of articles in the UK Guardian

A BBC poll published today will show that, despite the tightness of the race in the US, Obama is the overwhelming favourite in 22 countries. He is preferred to McCain by a four to one margin on average across the 22,000 people polled.

The margin in favour of Obama ranges from just 9% in India to 82% in Kenya. On average 49% prefer Obama to 12% preferring McCain. Nearly four in 10 do not take a position.

And you just know, that if this fact became widely known in the US, it would actually work against Senator Obama. The mind reels ...

Don't buy the polls. It's a farce. The polling companies have been taking a larger sample of Republicans to make for a tighter looking race.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/09/poll-madness-mccain-takes_n_125...

I think they're using the NCLB system ;)

oncall @ 43:

The odd thing is Dennis, McCain used the same lipstick analogy when describing one Hillary Clinton's proposals. What I would like o know, Dennis, did you have the same concerns about McCain's misogyny at that time, or did you have those concerns when McCain "joked" about a gorilla raping a woman?

oncall- Hillary Clinton had not just uttered a very memorable line from a very memorable speech about lipstick just less than a week before. A line that has been repeated and replayed about a thousand and one times in the last 5-6 days. Lousy comparison, but one I would use to try defend if that was all I had. Not even close to being convincing. And like I said, even if he wasn't aware of the reference he just made and the coincidence, the crowd sure did. Do you think he was just thinking the crowd loved his line without thinking why?

MsJoanne @ 48:

dBa @ 42:

See, Jane 'Swift' isn't any smarter than Dennis.

Not so swift that one.

I was thinking to myself when reading the article earlier that it was an amusing name for someone. How often do you get someone's last name to coincide with a statement synonymous with providing false statements to paint someone in a bad light? All she needed was to tell us her middle name was boat.

Ron @ 50:

Denise, it looks like you picked the wrong night to try to speak for liberal, progressive open minded ladies. Hello ladies.

I'm just asking a very simple question. They obviously don't want to even attempt to formulate a plausible answer.

dennis @ 55:

Ron @ 50:

Denise, it looks like you picked the wrong night to try to speak for liberal, progressive open minded ladies. Hello ladies.

I'm just asking a very simple question. They obviously don't want to even attempt to formulate a plausible answer.

There is nothing to answer. You are spinning something. From all your prior posts, you are not trying to get an answer to anything. You are a McCain troll (haven't you gotten enough points yet to get that damned golf shirt yet? Chripes, you're here annoying people enough to get your own less-than-straight-talk-airplane.)

Don't go away mad. Just go away.

J.C. @ 8:

Firefox 2.0 for Mac. I haven't had this problem until tonight.

i started having the same problem early evening yesterday...go thread link crash on firefox and safari
today it's been hit and miss

MsJoanne @ 57:

dennis @ 55:

Ron @ 50:

Denise, it looks like you picked the wrong night to try to speak for liberal, progressive open minded ladies. Hello ladies.

I'm just asking a very simple question. They obviously don't want to even attempt to formulate a plausible answer.

There is nothing to answer. You are spinning something. From all your prior posts, you are not trying to get an answer to anything. You are a McCain troll (haven't you gotten enough points yet to get that damned golf shirt yet? Chripes, you're here annoying people enough to get your own less-than-straight-talk-airplane.)

Don't go away mad. Just go away.

Wait, you can get golf shirts? Wow! I thought you just got crap like ya did from Kool-Aid points!
I can't imagine being paid to spout rediculous lies and pretend to believe them.

MountainMan23 @ 23 said:

A must read .. a must see .. as sleazy as it gets ..
New McCain Ad Falsely Suggests Obama Wants Kids To Learn “About Sex Before Learning To Read”

.. and remember ..

“I’m John McCain and I approve this message.”
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@ 28 krisken Said:

I saw that. I’m so aggravated by this B.S. I’m about to have a conniption. Seriously, this political season has gone beyond strange and unusual and entered into the realm of no return.

Between stupid people, the awful media, and crap like this, I just don’t know how much more I can take.
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I'm still stunned, and I've seen a lot of twisted political propaganda in my time.

It (re-)ignited a rage deep inside me I hadn't felt for years.

It's hard to find words to express it ...

please don't palin 'hip' and 'cool'.....

http://www.laprogressive.com/2008/09/05/alaskans-speak-in-a-frightened-whisper-palin-is-“racist-sexist-vindictive-and-mean”/

Palin's record is really quite astonishing given how early in her career this is. I mean, what is the controversy count up to, CoIntelPro???

As some of you may have noticed, I've stayed out of the Palin threads, and that's because, truth be told, I'm actually a big Palin supporter.

That said, this "lipstick on a pig" controversy is shameful for the McCain campaign to exploit. Between Obama using it before, McCain using it before, and the person Sarah wishes to replace using it in reference to John Kerry, it's obscene.

Rick Davis appears to be right: it's not about the issues, especially if you're making something controversial out of nothing...

miss_kitty @ 58:

Don't you know? A couple nights ago, dennis was sporting a url to a Cafe Press T-shirt that said "I am Sarah Palin: Her story is MY story.

dennis is a sensitive chick

dennis is a sensitive chick dick.

There. Fixed it for ya. :D

I'm like 20 seconds into the Rachel Maddow show, and she drops the bomb that McCain and Palin slag on the Freddie Mac thing slagging on Lobbyists, when his campaign manager Rick Davis LOBBIED for Freddie Mac, or something like that. This isn't breaking news, is it. I can't even wrap my head around all of the scandals and gaffes. I'm having anxiety attacks. The entire U.S. Populace is like dead zombies. It's so weird. The Media is rotten. I like Keith Olberman and Rachel Maddow.

miss_kitty @ 64:

Don't you know? A couple nights ago, dennis was sporting a url to a Cafe Press T-shirt that said "I am Sarah Palin: Her story is MY story.

dennis is a sensitive chick

Or a pit bull in lipstick.

You're trying just a bit too hard, miss_katty, but I have a wife and two daughters and I think that t-shirt is cool as shit, and obviously there are a lot of women who think the same way. It's been a hot seller. And I'm comfortable enough letting anyone who cares to know what I think about it. If it bothers you, all the better.

StirFry @ 62:

Haha...McCain never heard of that term "lipstick on a pig?" He's out of touch with even the oldest of colloquialisms (circa 18th century, I believe). Then Rick Davis thought, "Hey that's a great attack, we'll say Obama is a misogynist, you're a genius maverick!"

He actually used it referring to Hillary Clinton's Proposals. The thing about the Obama quote is that he wasn't remotely referring to Palin. He was referring to the Republic Party's attempt to dress up the same old shit, using the 'Change' mantra they ripped off from the Obama campaign.

Remember the guy who got fired for using the word 'niggardly' because a bunch of mouth breathers thought he was being racist (IIRC, he was a black guy). Same bunch of arseholes up in Obama's grill over this.

They remember her lipstick pit bull joke (which enamoured and thrilled them so-"The difference between me [and all soccer moms, according to her] and a pit bull is lipstick!!! hahahahaha!") and hear Obama say the word lipstick et voila! New fake outrage and controversy. And apparently my gal dennis is leading the pack of mouth breathers on C&L...

dennis @ 75:

miss_kitty @ 64:

Don't you know? A couple nights ago, dennis was sporting a url to a Cafe Press T-shirt that said "I am Sarah Palin: Her story is MY story.

dennis is a sensitive chick

Or a pit bull in lipstick.

You're trying just a bit too hard, miss_katty, but I have a wife and two daughters and I think that t-shirt is cool as shit, and obviously there are a lot of women who think the same way. It's been a hot seller. And I'm comfortable enough letting anyone who cares to know what I think about it. If it bothers you, all the better.

Denise, how come no outrage about Faux news commenting on the new lesbian commentator on MSNBC, Rachel Maddow?

Tommy Gunn @ 69:

As some of you may have noticed, I've stayed out of the Palin threads, and that's because, truth be told, I'm actually a big Palin supporter.

That said, this "lipstick on a pig" controversy is shameful for the McCain campaign to exploit. Between Obama using it before, McCain using it before, and the person Sarah wishes to replace using it in reference to John Kerry, it's obscene.

Rick Davis appears to be right: it's not about the issues, especially if you're making something controversial out of nothing...

No one gives a rat's ass. F*ck off.

Lipstick on a carp? Is that better?

oncall @ 72:

Dennis, you are straying from your concern for women and it shows in this clueless argument you posted. So stop posting your ridiculous and patently transparent and obviously misogynist "concerns" for women when it is clear you really don't give a damn about women. Everybody here sees through your B.S.

Of course the crowd was happy to hear Obama criticize that lying, hypocritical lunatic. It is about time somebody did, and Obama is probably happy that it made it to the news. Right now, the news for McPalin is not looking so good, is it? She is being exposed as a fraud and liar who gorges herself at the public's expense (~$18K/day per diem expense while staying home from the Alaskan capitol). Actually, the crowd was cheering, because they were happy to see Obama take a swipe at McPalin. He is very selective in his words and he did know what he was saying, and I, like millions of others, am glad he said it.

oncall- I appreciate your honesty. It's rare here. No one else will admit that.

So, was the following fishwrap smell analogy a reference to her also, or was that to McCain's age?

dennis @ 85:

oncall @ 72:

Dennis, you are straying from your concern for women and it shows in this clueless argument you posted. So stop posting your ridiculous and patently transparent and obviously misogynist "concerns" for women when it is clear you really don't give a damn about women. Everybody here sees through your B.S.

Of course the crowd was happy to hear Obama criticize that lying, hypocritical lunatic. It is about time somebody did, and Obama is probably happy that it made it to the news. Right now, the news for McPalin is not looking so good, is it? She is being exposed as a fraud and liar who gorges herself at the public's expense (~$18K/day per diem expense while staying home from the Alaskan capitol). Actually, the crowd was cheering, because they were happy to see Obama take a swipe at McPalin. He is very selective in his words and he did know what he was saying, and I, like millions of others, am glad he said it.

oncall- I appreciate your honesty. It's rare here. No one else will admit that.

So, was the following fishwrap smell analogy a reference to her also, or was that to McCain's age?

If the foo shits, wear it.

That video of Palin in the Church talking about Iraq and the Oil for God and everything really freaks me out. This could be the President of the US of Ass.

miss_kitty @ 90:

dennis @ 75:

miss_kitty @ 64:

Don't you know? A couple nights ago, dennis was sporting a url to a Cafe Press T-shirt that said "I am Sarah Palin: Her story is MY story.

dennis is a sensitive chick

Or a pit bull in lipstick.

You're trying just a bit too hard, miss_kitty, but I have a wife and two daughters and I think that t-shirt is cool as shit, and obviously there are a lot of women who think the same way. It's been a hot seller. And I'm comfortable enough letting anyone who cares to know what I think about it. If it bothers you, all the better.

BTW, thanks for sharing, but I don't really care to know that you've had sex two times with a woman.

Republicans usually prefer men. Give Denise some credit.

I never admit to anything especially if it's in regards to Faux Outrage manufactured thru the sweat of lemmings.

If you 'republicans' wanna pretend Palin is a pig and McCain is a rotting fish, have fun with that.

The rest of us will just assume the worst, that they are two accurate metaphors for the bush administration and it's policies that have left the US in a world of shit.

meghan mccain on today show ....her dad dated a stripper,not a very good student,rebellious.....sounds
familiar........right dennis....your pick in 2000&2004
the gut thinker/poor communicator...bush

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/09/meghan-mccain-today-show_n_1252...

This vid was really, really funny on several levels.

The best part for me though was again to get to see all of those vast sections of empty seats featured so prominently in this video.

And Jon Stewart was right-- that RNC stage is flipping the bird to America, no doubt.

In case you haven't read this yet, here are Obama's Senate Accomplishments.

BTW, have you send Obama some $$ love today?

dennis @ 85:

oncall @ 72:

Dennis, you are straying from your concern for women and it shows in this clueless argument you posted. So stop posting your ridiculous and patently transparent and obviously misogynist "concerns" for women when it is clear you really don't give a damn about women. Everybody here sees through your B.S.

Of course the crowd was happy to hear Obama criticize that lying, hypocritical lunatic. It is about time somebody did, and Obama is probably happy that it made it to the news. Right now, the news for McPalin is not looking so good, is it? She is being exposed as a fraud and liar who gorges herself at the public's expense (~$18K/day per diem expense while staying home from the Alaskan capitol). Actually, the crowd was cheering, because they were happy to see Obama take a swipe at McPalin. He is very selective in his words and he did know what he was saying, and I, like millions of others, am glad he said it.

oncall- I appreciate your honesty. It's rare here. No one else will admit that.

So, was the following fishwrap smell analogy a reference to her also, or was that to McCain's age?

Neither, you are perverted or incredibly dense. Read this. Just as Miss. Kitty has been explaining to you, Obama was clearly comparing McPalin's claim to be the change candidates to wrapping rotten, smelly fish in paper as a means to keep the odors from escaping so that most people would not recognize them for the lying pieces of rot that they really are.

dennis @ 94:

Ron @ 79:

Denise, how come no outrage about Faux news commenting on the new lesbian commentator on MSNBC, Rachel Maddow?

Rhonda- He's an idiot. He's not running for President and leader of the free world, though.

the 'free world' bailsout freddie&fannie now get ready for Lehman bros....wow deregulation has it's problems
also...NOT perfect....now we have NATIONALIZATION
a social program.. next are loan(s) to automakers then
when you talk healthcare it's socialist program

MsJoanne @ 99:

In case you haven't read this yet, here are Obama's Senate Accomplishments.

BTW, have you send Obama some $$ love today?

Absolutely. Every dime helps.

Norman @ 104:

Oh, wow. Is this site on Pacific Time? Praise be!

Anyway, besides having trouble accessing the site lately, I have been all over looking for good, solid information on the economic outlook for the US in light of Fannie/Freddie. I have seen (outside of our MSM, of course) some pretty dire predictions. Any economists or learned people onboard to give opinions? I think we are screwed, I mean in a really bad way. I am already a victim of Trickle Down and Conservative Compassion, so I want to know if I'm headed for the streets and soup lines. Are most of you going to be there with me, or am I panicking and should just sit back and trust the dear leaders.

Anyone know what the price of a can of Sterno costs now days. I will want my soup hot.

PLEASE HELP MAKE THESE VIDEOS VIRAL.
The cruel aerial shooting of wolves is as Joy Behar said on LKL tonite “She’s pretty mean to animals”

Share it on as many blogs & websites as you can. This is horrific and cruel and best of all it has legs

Truth squad this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JVnPcrXr28&NR=1
Get paid $400 to bring a wolf foreleg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G2pb1VeEgg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGPFPBmzRrQ&feature=related

Oh yeah, the “eBay plane” was sold to trophy hunters & corp media doesn’t mention this please pass along.

http://www.huntingreport.com/worldupdate.cfm?articleid=349

Defenders Magazine
Spring 2007
Defenders in Action: Vote Scheduled on Aerial Wolf-Shooting Ban

Alaska voters will have another opportunity to ban the public from participating in aerial wolf shooting. Nearly 57,000 Alaskans signed a petition last year to place the issue on the next state ballot. In February, the state lieutenant governor certified the ballot measure, which will be voted on in August 2008. Alaskans have twice before passed similar ballot measures, but both were overturned by the state legislature. Meanwhile, more than 600 wolves have been shot by aerial gunners in Alaska during the past four years, including at least 38 in the first two months of 2007.

Here is the link to where the Alaska "ePlane" went
http://www.huntingreport.com/worldupdate.cfm?articleid=349

Trophy hunters, wealthy & cruel, bypass usual customs shipping game & weapons between Alaska and Russia. No wonder she knows Russian foreign policy, she knows big game hunters that go back & forth from Alaska & Russia, they're close in proximity ya know?

eh, that is a good video, but this one is higher culture.
Enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkJdEFf_Qg4

dennis @ 112:

oncall @ 101:

Neither, you are perverted or incredibly dense. Read this. Just as Miss. Kitty has been explaining to you, Obama was clearly comparing McPalin's claim to be the change candidates to wrapping rotten, smelly fish in paper as a means to keep the odors from escaping so that most people would not recognize them for the lying pieces of rot that they really are.

Wait, oncall. You just admitted you knew that Obama was referring to Palin and you along with a million others were glad he said it. You've flipped already? I understand everything Tapper said. And I still stand by what I said before, with the lipstick reference from Palin's speech and the hundreds of times it's been repeated, Obama's lipstick/pig reference and the resulting crowd approval, either he knew what he was doing, or still didn't know after the crowd went wild and he is totally daft not to have gotten it and been able to correct himself immediately. Neither are good scenarios, and like I said before, way too many of these that he's done to give him a pass on all of them. And if you give him a pass on all of them, then he must think you're the one that's stupid.

Denise, give up you f**kn c*nt. You just don't know when to quit.

hello @ 108:

Peter G @ 106:

You know what sucks. This sucks: http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2008/sep/10/women.uselections2008 It is beginning to look like they can make the Palin Strategy work just by controlling access to her and using the vast array of friendly media types. I am really quite pissed that Obama didn't see the obvious vulnerability created by not putting Hillary on the ticket. The number of people I've talked to that think Palin is just so cool is appalling. If the Democrats are going to win this thing they are going to have to get really mean and soon.

The Biden/Palin debate can't come soon enough for me.

I'm willing to bet right now that no such debate will ever take place. The republicans will find some reason to claim bias and veto the debate. Right now they are doing a superb job of controlling the message. It won't matter a bit that I think Palin has made a career out of waiting till the train is leaving the station then climbing on board and claiming to be the engineer. I always thought this thing was going to be close and now I fear the worst. Somebody post something funny. I'd hate to turn into a buzz kill.

Radically Moderate @ 113:

eh, that is a good video, but this one is higher culture.
Enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkJdEFf_Qg4

Well, since we're going south here, I prefer low culture, personally. ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXy0hZDIrmY

Peter G @ 106:

You know what sucks. This sucks: http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2008/sep/10/women.uselections2008 It is beginning to look like they can make the Palin Strategy work just by controlling access to her and using the vast array of friendly media types. I am really quite pissed that Obama didn't see the obvious vulnerability created by not putting Hillary on the ticket. The number of people I've talked to that think Palin is just so cool is appalling. If the Democrats are going to win this thing they are going to have to get really mean and soon.

Obama has eight years of Bush failure to work with. He needs to beat the economic drum. Here's what he needs to answer himself and needs to ask McCain since he claims to be the the agent of change (I can't even say that with a straight face) :

* What Bush economic policies do you repudiate?
* Where have you broken with Bush on the economy?
* Since you're advocating the same tax policies that Bush enacted, why would anyone expect a different result?

Obama needs to crystal clear on these answers. And McCain won't be able to answer these questions. His campaign has put all their money on identity politics.

(ref: Harold Meyerson's WaPo Op-Ed)

what comes to mind when thinking of the bush presidency
#43. reed/delay didntlistentomilitaryleaders
secrecy inflation foolmeoncebushism
cheney addington goodling
gonzales cost i was told GOD told me
oil iraq war would cost BUSH dwi
no-bid contracts 10billionpakistan supremect.pres.
yellow cake torture taxbreaks wealthy
pet goat Blackwater signing statements
flying over NO unemployment MBA president
stacked DOJ weak TX governor NEOCON norichchildleftbehind LIBBY habeus corpus

hello @ 119:

Radically Moderate @ 113:

eh, that is a good video, but this one is higher culture.
Enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkJdEFf_Qg4

Well, since we're going south here, I prefer low culture, personally. ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXy0hZDIrmY

HeeHee! talkin' 'bout mudflaps.......my girls got 'em!
Classic :-)

miss_kitty @ 114:

Obama was clearly comparing McPalin's claim to be the change candidates

Cherry pick and spin it, girl.

You couldn't even pretend to think that if Hillary had been the VP selection and had made the now incredibly brilliant and popular pitbull/lipstick analogy that Sarah Reagan-Thatcher did, and John McCain had almost immediately thereafter made a lipstick on a pig remark, or God forbid, 'lipstick on a monkey it would still be a monkey' remark, that you and this place wouldn't be on it like stink on the proverbial you-know-what.

Please don't deny that, because I need to get to sleep and that would make me laugh too way too hard for that.

great video, thanks......really did need to see that...I am sick of the Palinosis that is creeping through the media- least they are finally revealing her lies..only took 10 days...phew....now if we can just keep at it....cuz the bloggers have put the pressure on the damn media..and we all know that...

Peter G @ 117:

hello @ 108:

Peter G @ 106:

You know what sucks. This sucks: http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2008/sep/10/women.uselections2008 It is beginning to look like they can make the Palin Strategy work just by controlling access to her and using the vast array of friendly media types. I am really quite pissed that Obama didn't see the obvious vulnerability created by not putting Hillary on the ticket. The number of people I've talked to that think Palin is just so cool is appalling. If the Democrats are going to win this thing they are going to have to get really mean and soon.

The Biden/Palin debate can't come soon enough for me.

I'm willing to bet right now that no such debate will ever take place. The republicans will find some reason to claim bias and veto the debate. Right now they are doing a superb job of controlling the message. It won't matter a bit that I think Palin has made a career out of waiting till the train is leaving the station then climbing on board and claiming to be the engineer. I always thought this thing was going to be close and now I fear the worst. Somebody post something funny. I'd hate to turn into a buzz kill.

No, you're absolutely right, Mr. G. And this isn't any time for fun and games either where there is focused work to be done.

I thank you and anyone else who can bring some sobriety to the table, actually. Lord knows, the Bush administration has never presented any of that for their country.

nothing Dennis about the perfect fiscal responsible
Republicans.....fannie/freddie bailout....social safety net
NOW automakers borrowing from government. Nation
building........help me i'm not understanding this claim
to not tax..spend...earmarks...
PLEASE help me out so i understand why we can't have a healthcare plan similar to medicare/congressional plan
enlighten me and when you say social medicine please
explain.........so i get it straight...your the fiscal responsible party that's what you call it.....

can i ask all the women here and elsewhere to do me a favor??

STOP DEFENDING PALIN

krisken @ 49:

Shan @ 47:

From a couple of articles in the UK Guardian

A BBC poll published today will show that, despite the tightness of the race in the US, Obama is the overwhelming favourite in 22 countries. He is preferred to McCain by a four to one margin on average across the 22,000 people polled.

The margin in favour of Obama ranges from just 9% in India to 82% in Kenya. On average 49% prefer Obama to 12% preferring McCain. Nearly four in 10 do not take a position.

And you just know, that if this fact became widely known in the US, it would actually work against Senator Obama. The mind reels ...

Don't buy the polls. It's a farce. The polling companies have been taking a larger sample of Republicans to make for a tighter looking race.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/09/poll-madness-mccain-takes_n_125...

I think they're using the NCLB system ;)

Uh, no it's an INTERNATIONAL poll. See:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7606100.stm

And I agree that both a) this fact would probably HURT Obama and b) that's incomprehensible to most sane people but then most of American politics is equally insane.

enigma4ever still digging through the Moosepoop @ 128:

great video, thanks......really did need to see that...I am sick of the Palinosis that is creeping through the media- least they are finally revealing her lies..only took 10 days...phew....now if we can just keep at it....cuz the bloggers have put the pressure on the damn media..and we all know that...

I'm telling you, the videos that will hurt them the most are the ones that show the wanton killing of endangered predators. It will take some of the gloss from her lipstick. People react and recoil from aerial hunting.

krisken @ 49:

Shan @ 47:

From a couple of articles in the UK Guardian

A BBC poll published today will show that, despite the tightness of the race in the US, Obama is the overwhelming favourite in 22 countries. He is preferred to McCain by a four to one margin on average across the 22,000 people polled.

The margin in favour of Obama ranges from just 9% in India to 82% in Kenya. On average 49% prefer Obama to 12% preferring McCain. Nearly four in 10 do not take a position.

And you just know, that if this fact became widely known in the US, it would actually work against Senator Obama. The mind reels ...

Don't buy the polls. It's a farce. The polling companies have been taking a larger sample of Republicans to make for a tighter looking race.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/09/poll-madness-mccain-takes_n_125...

I think they're using the NCLB system ;)

It's an INTERNATIONAL poll:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7606100.stm

Although I agree that this revelation would a) actually hurt Obama and that b) that's insane but then I realize this is c) American politics

I think you guys are being too hard on dennis.

After all, he is willing to show up night after night trolling for abuse and asking questions that the Corporate media will not answer for the public. ("The public's right to know the truth" has gone the way of "fair and balanced BS")

At least dennis does more than his favorite hopeful VP does and shows up to at least have a conversation. Palin has been hiding from the press for 10- days now.

Hell, dennis is more prepared to be McCain's next VP than that hockey mom in lipstick based solely on the premise that he is willing to show his true self for all to see.

So, All hail dennis. More qualified than a woman who in 2004 said that running for Senate from Alaska would keep her from her "mothering" duties. My how the world changes in 4 years, huh?

Smitty @ 137:

enigma4ever still digging through the Moosepoop @ 128:

great video, thanks......really did need to see that...I am sick of the Palinosis that is creeping through the media- least they are finally revealing her lies..only took 10 days...phew....now if we can just keep at it....cuz the bloggers have put the pressure on the damn media..and we all know that...

I'm telling you, the videos that will hurt them the most are the ones that show the wanton killing of endangered predators. It will take some of the gloss from her lipstick. People react and recoil from aerial hunting.

I'm a hunter or I used to be but aerial hunting is not sportsmanship, it's slaughter. The animal can't even use it's natural instincts to survive.

dennis @ 127:

miss_kitty @ 114:

Obama was clearly comparing McPalin's claim to be the change candidates

Cherry pick and spin it, girl.

You couldn't even pretend to think that if Hillary had been the VP selection and had made the now incredibly brilliant and popular pitbull/lipstick analogy that Sarah Reagan-Thatcher did, and John McCain had almost immediately thereafter made a lipstick on a pig remark, or God forbid, 'lipstick on a monkey it would still be a monkey' remark, that you and this place wouldn't be on it like stink on the proverbial you-know-what.

Please don't deny that, because I need to get to sleep and that would make me laugh too way too hard for that.

Huh? WTF are you talking about? I have no response for a hypothetical. Again spinning like a top.

the first question for palin from gibson...'can you name me all the colleges you attended to get your bachelors degree'?
the questions will be soft...nothing about ukraine,n.korea,libya
s.ossetia,troops in pakistan,iran,russia