Contempt For Those Who Serve
By Steve Hynd Tuesday Sep 09, 2008 4:20pm
John Soltz, Co-Founder and Chair of VoteVets.org, writes:
Last week's Republican convention sure made every superficial effort to come off as pro-Troop and pro-Veteran. And, of course, the media ate it up, not challenging a single thing. But to those of us who did serve, it was offense after offense after offense. ... Maybe because it's because he has a terrible record, but not once in John McCain's speech did he talk about taking care of those who served their nation in the military. With exploding rates of PTSD, suicide, homelessness among veterans. With ridiculous wait times for veterans seeking care, and a VA that every major vets group says is woefully underfunded. With administrators dumping vets out of the veterans care system by diagnosing them with a lesser mental injury than they have. Not. A. Single. Word.
Soltz, who was an Army captain during Operation Freedom, goes on to list some of the sins Republicans don't want mentioned when it comes to their oft-mentioned "support" for servicemen and veterans. They include: Rush Limbaugh's "phony soldiers" accusation levelled at servicemen who disagree with Bush's awful policies on Iraq and Afghanistan; their faux-outrage when General Wesley Clark pointed out that being a POW isn't a qualification for being Commander in Chief and, of course, Sarah Palin's recent violation of OPSEC by revealing her son's deployment date.
Of course, we should add Rumsfield's "we go to war with the army we have" insult. When he said that, half of all casualties in Iraq up to that point had been because of a lack of vehicle and body armor the Bush administration had been unwilling to fund. We should add their repeated robbing of the soldier's paychestto force Congress into funding the Iraq occupation. And let us not forget the original Walter Reed debacle.
But that's not where McCain and his party end on their false "support. As a diary at Booman Tribune detailed back in February, Mr Straight Talk is full of doubletalk.
McCain voted against the Webb amendment calling for adequate troop rest between deployments.
McCain voted against an amendment that would provide $20 million to the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) for health care facilities.
McCain voted against increasing Veterans medical services funding by $1.5 billion in FY 2007 to be paid for by closing corporate tax loopholes.
McCain voted to table an amendment by Senator Dodd that called for an additional $322,000,000 for safety equipment for United States forces in Iraq.
McCain urged other Senate members to table a vote (which never passed) to provide more than $1 billion for National Guard and Reserve equipment in Iraq related to a shortage of helmets, tents, bullet-proof inserts, and tactical vests.
McCain voted against increasing the amount available for medical care for veterans by $650,000,000.
When it comes to their claim to support the troops, John McCain and his party are flat-out liars. The message is simple - if you really support the troops, stop voting Republican.
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McCain... he's on a bridge to nowhere.
Army suicides could top nation
http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/09/09/army.suicides/index.html
How dare you attack a war hero!
Why oh why do you hate the troops!!
I began politically conscience in 1974 when I asked my dad about Nixon's eminent impeachment. He took me to the
Library an I had to write a report about it. It was actually fun. Since then I have seen Ford, Reagan, 2 Bushes bring
the whole Repub hate to our country. War is a racket, Repub and DEms are racketeers. Obama doesn't talk about ending the
war, he talks about downsizing and relocating it.
Veterans are tools. Manufactured, used and scrapped. You can piss and moan all you want about the plight of veterans, but
they should have stayed home. They should have stayed home.
In the meantime make sure we keep sending checks to Israel.
Damn good post Cernig, big ups to you.
Let's face it.
Tax cuts get you elected, and you can't have too many tax cuts if you spend a lot of money on our troops.
Isn't that just like self-preservation, so you can be putting your country first?
Ouch.
Soltz caught McCain right in the jaw with this article.
They may be vets but they weren't POWs were they. Screw 'em. Snark (provided as a courtesy to the satire insensitive.)
No one knows more about war than John McCain and his family.
McCain and Palin are FRAUDS and LIARS McCain and Palin are FRAUDS and LIARS McCain and Palin are FRAUDS and LIARS McCain and Palin are FRAUDS and LIARS
It is fact, there is no denying it.
And the most loving thing McCain will do is bring back the draft and fight more unnecessary wars.
Watch this and tremble:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJUCU1UH2w
it's interesting how mccain used a "tribute" to 9/11, not a video about our troops, to whip up patriotic ferver among his convention crowd . . . maybe it's me, but are republicans crazy, evil or just plain stupid?
McCain sucks for sure when it comes to caring for vets.
So do many others in both parties.
The cure here, as is the way to block pre-emptive use of military force, is a draft.
If it was good enough for Elvis, it's good enough for others. No deferments this time...NONE. Males and females both welcome.
odanny @ 5,
Thanks. I'm really enjoying writing for C&L and its nice to read folks are enjoying my posts too.
But just call me C, it's easier than typing "Cernig" and I'll answer to it :-)
Regards, C
as a vet i think vets have been getting screwed, and i dont really see much difference between the two presidential candidates on thier warmongering!
Why are we not seeing these information as attack adds? Here on this web site it is preaching to the choir.
THERE IS AN AD in there...PLEASE begin to throw out the charges at THEM through surrogates, in speeches, in hard hitting ads and put McSHAME/SCARAH on the defensive for the next news cycle...FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!!
C, I agree with odanny. You always do excellent work.
dru, that video is powerful and needs to be shown to all Americans. Watching it brought tears to my eyes.
They're all pro-veteran until it's time to put their money where their mouths are. They can always find a few hundred billion more for war profiteers, but not to prevent or treat head wounds
Leadership @ 4:
Obama just wants to take care of the troops so when he gets up to bat for for his turn at "Commander and thief" he will end up "lookin good"
What I dont get is...why does Obama want to kill Taliban in Afghanistan when the people who attacked us were CIA employees fom Saudi Arabia and Pakistan?
I am seriously shocked and dismayed over the state of utter ignorance at people in this country. the lack of critical thinking skills. i work at an elementary school and i'm telling you folks it is going down the shitter. how can people vote against themselves. the fact that soilders are killing themselves almost higher than the national average is incredible- and speaks VOLUMES!!!! My brother took his life a year and a half ago and i am still having a hard time dealing with it. I can't imagine the heart ache and abandonment these families must feel. Why aren't they crying out everyday at the government who put their family member in the position where they felt they had no way out? I am completely flabbergasted!!!!!
Leadership @ 4:
Right on!
Why is it that this blog and others seems to have plenty of real dirt on the McCain campaign, Palins phony credentials, how the Repubs are actually treating vets like shit and any number of other scandalous information but somehow the DNC and the Obama campaign cannot manage to work this to their advantage or get this info into the overall election information stream??? Why is that??? Do republican have to start eating babies live in times square on live T.V. before the turnips among us wake the hell up???? Who has to give who a goddamned blowjob before some of this information starts replacing all the bullshit I'm seeing instead of real analysis of this old man and his cute little fashion fascista lite??? Why is it all about Palin and her kid and that whole phony pleasegiveemtheirprivacyyerameanyifyoudon'tandyouain'tnopatriotandyougotcrabgrasstooyukyukyuk!!!!! Instead of what they are up to or likely to do with the same power some idiots in black robes gave the Chimp eight freaking years ago.. What? Who? Whats it gonna fucking take???...
This is the truth that should bring this whole republican charade to its immoral little knees... And yet... In the news its all about Palin and her pregnant kid and her looks and McCain's post convention bounce and polls that say this or that about the 'race' to the whitehouse... For that matter, why is it, that this presidential campaign, possibly the most important election in the history of the nation is generally being portrayed as either a freaking high school popularity contest and/or a goddamned horse race at Scioto Downs.... What the fuck is the matter with us???? This ain't no horse race... It's a hellovalot more serious than that or some stupid teen popularity contest...JESUS H. CHRIST people... These motherfuckers will bury us all, kill the nation and take every little bit of anything we hold precious if we don't vote the bastards out of power NOW! THIS GODDAMNED FALL!! And do it in huge numbers so there can be no hope of some DIEBOLD bullshit!!
Goddammit I hate the cold, but Toronto is looking pretty damned good to me right about now..........JD
Thank you, MR. Soltz, and all of our vets. I miss my brother every day.
McSame is toast. New breaking scandal, to me anywho..........DEPT. OF INTERIOR HAS BEEN VERY BUSY with SEX, AND DRUGS
OOPS........and BAD ROCK N' ROLL........BAD AS IN bad.
milquetoast @ 20:
I am going to get pilloried for saying this but...since the earliest days of Ronald Reagan, America has been comfortable with wrapping itself in the image of the Flag. The symbols of freedom. Its easy to see where this comes from.
America had lost its sense of invincibility in Vietnam and prior to that, we stood vulnerable to something called OPEC. The rules where changing in society and Ronnie gave us permission to be selfish. Further, he advocated a blind trust philosophy. Trust in God - not the government. He began the gutting and demeaning of free and balanced public education and deregulated and destroyed the diversity of public airwaves. 500 channels owned and operated by 5 white men does not diversity make.
Painting with a broad brush...Today’s Republicans as a group are authoritarian driven. They fall in line and they don't question. For generations now, they are rewarded for this mindset from their pulpits on Sunday and critical thinking goes away. Day by day. "Faith" becomes virtuous. Questions, read: independent, scientific, logical thought, are suspect. Obedience to some perceived “higher authority”…paramount.
Republicans voters aren't stupid. They've been had and are being used by those who manufacture and manipulate issues for selfish interests. They will rue the day right along with the rest of us when the Theocracy kicks in, in full. Those same puppet masters that fostered and crafted Ronnie's political agenda loom even larger today.
Bread and Circuses. Its all been Bread and Circuses.
Korry @ 26:
Leadership @ 4:
I cannot agree with your asessment of "the troops."
Those who joined before the Iraq Occupation probably did not have a lot of choices; Wal Mart has crippled the workforce of many a small town, edging out the competition, paying starvation wages, encouraging employees to obtain Welfare Benefits in the effort to widen their profit margins. We have a situation similar to that of Dickens' Britain where the military provides a way to survive.
Those in the National Guard had no reason to believe that Bush would federalise the Guard.
I will grant you that those who have joined since Bush's imperial adventures might be getting just what they should expect.
You are fortunate to have become politically aware at a young age. Your posts are generally right on the money. But not everybody had an old man like you - you lucked out! Can you imagine being a youth and having a parent who believes everything Rush says?
There but for the grace of FSM go we.
VietVet8666 @ 13:
And they'll avoid doing that for as long as possible.
A military draft would see the sudden conscious involvement of an awakened electorate as they suddenly became part of the news coming out of the Empire's outposts.
Jack Damage, right on! My feelings exactly.
The one thing that makes a draft unlikely is that it would require de-privatizing all those "non-soldier" functions that have been so profitably auctioned off to the LOWEST bidder (remember, they're providing a servide to the troops here), if for no other reason than to give all that newly-available man (and woman) power something to do. Like KP, and motor pool, and guarding the post, and shit like that. It would put the
mercen...contractors out of bidness...How is it the Right can keep stating their unwavering support for our troops, while always refusing to help them when they get home? Are they only heroes when they are getting shot at? And at the same time, Republicans are "demanding" an apology from Obama regarding the lipstick on a pig comment. That is too fucking sick and unreal.
For all the lies, for all the lives lost, and for screwing the economy to a new level, here's an apology for the GOP; FUCK YOU.
Pardon my french
At the start of the Iraq War the Bush administration opined that, "... we go to war with the army we have." That's true. You go with what you've got. So compare the campaigns: Obama talks issues while McCain talks "lipstick on a pig". You go with what you've got. And the McCain campaign's got squat — no new ideas, no vision, no change.
Chris Matthews at MSNBC has framed these antics as the "politics of distraction". He's right. Ever watch sleight-of-hand magicians Penn & Teller? They're masters of the craft. They get you to concentrate on one hand so you won't notice what the other hand is doing. A classic trick centuries old. And there can be only one response to this Republican sideshow, "Is that it? Is that all you've got?"
tyree @ 15:
there are differences. obama is interested in diplomacy.....like Admiral Fallon
who recently stepped down. we already have committment to afghanistan....
mccain wants to stay 100 yrs.that may still happen. obama wants them out.
there are differences as far as voting on veteran's issues....mccain has a failing grade.
where was mccain for the vote on the new g.i. bill. where is the (R) party on the
walter reed scandal
What's with the perspective that if the empire's hired killers were better protected, somehow the world would be a better place? Supporting the troops is supporting the blood-drenched agents of a murderous regime. Who shall we hold responsible for the murders, the displacements, the dispossessions, if not those who actually carry them out? The OP calls for billions to be stolen to support large-scale organized crime. Faux the troops, I say.
william @ 33:
They don't support the troops. They support the war. thr trroops are just as expendable as hum-vees, probably more so, cuz their easier to replace.
Liberal AND Proud @ 9:
No. It's nobody knows anything about war but McSame and family!
is it true that more vets committed suicide in the years after the veitnam war than died in battle?
constituent @ 35:
Afghanistan has broken empires for 2500 years. It will break ours, if we risk it on some spurious notions about democracy or anything else...
The convention planners inadvertently showed just how superficial Republican support is. That backdrop behind McCain as he spoke was not one of his houses. It was Walter Reed Middle School in California. It seems they had some flunky do a web search for an image of Walter Reed Army Hospital and that came up with a picture of the school. They used it, and not one person noticed. Not even McCain himself, whose office is within walking distance of Walter Reed Hospital.
Biff Limbaugh @ 38:
probably, if you count vets from all conflicts. Vietnam vets are probably the largest percentage, still...
When's the last time McCain pays tribute to his fellow POWs??? Wait, his fellow mavericks????
constituent @ 35:
yeah ive heard you say it before [commitments ] obamas going to leave troops in iraq , any he removes straight to afganistan! this is george w bushes wars! hes the war criminal at this point , if obama or mccain take office and continuie bushes wars they will be the war criminals when the deaths keep going on!
woody, tokin librul @ 41:
sorry, misread that...it is very probable, actually, that more vets killed themselves in the last year than were killed in Iraq in the same period. I read somewhere, 100 vets per month 'succeed.' But they're vets from all eras...
Abraham @ 40:
It would be a long walk. From the Capitol about three miles. But definitely a short drive and an easy subway ride. But your excellent point is well taken.
Mick Piobr @ 29:
Like I said, tools. Many joined after 911 in a knee jerk response to a threat from abroad. But from where? and From whom?
Our invasion of the "Stan" has been less successful, but not as costly, as our invasion of Iraq.
There is no proof that would hold up in a court of law that pins 911 on Bin Laden.
And so many of our troops have died over ther and will continue to. And after this bullshit is over we will fight the Ruskies,
the China India Alliance, then the Martians...
Tools. You can't have a war with out soldiers. So don't be soldiers.
woody, tokin librul @ 39:
everyone knows that..including obama it's guerilla warfare....there are people in afghanistan that want u.s. why their economy is terrible and the country is unstable
i know you guys are into this....but i will say obama didn't get us into the afghanistan
pakistan debacle
constituent @ 48:
no and hes not going to get us out either so whats your point , we dont own iraq, afganistan or packistan or am i missing something here, is it thier countrys our ours?
Leadership @ 47:
Yep. That's what I tell my kid. The US military doesn't have anything to do with "freedom." It's about profit.
tyree @ 49:
my point is some afghani's want us their it's business also....that all i've got you'll
argue for ever on this......obama didn't start it and he intends to finish it. corporations
and oil/nat.gas want to be there........i'm almost certain you are smarter and know more so i will it's just my opinion. bottom line is i'm for the troops not the war
constituent @ 51:
well if the oil companys and the natural gas whores want us to fight in afganistan then by all means let obama do bushes job for him!
McCain, Palin, the republicans, their base, and the whole effin' gop are NOT for soldiers... nor are they for America. Look at the facts, folks. What they say is just NOT true!
happy @ 43:
He doesn't, does he? And isn't that strange?? McSame is a liar, a sham, a fake... it's that simple.
tyree @ 52:
whatever dawg...........it's complicated i don't like it either Obama is being handed the mess......i understand your point.....no matter who is president they are looking at a mess. if you want palin to possibly be commander in chief so be it. then will have real trouble.....mccain said we're going to have more wars my friends.....
right on! @ 53:
And that, my friend, is why we call them the ruling class.
CL@31;
Thanks..... I usually write too many words.. I know this, and I use too many expletives but I truly believe what it is I write even if I don't convey it as well as others. And I only use swear words to drive home a point or illustrate my anger which I'm sad to say is large and directed at my own government and a sizable percentage of my fellow citizens who continue to allow themselves to be led by the nose because they don't want to think. Some may think it or me crude, I think of those kinds of words as being candid and me as revealing my unfiltered real feelings. If you still like us down here Calgarylady... (And I wouldn't blame you if you didn't), At least those of us who haven't lost our minds.. Please hold a good thought, or prayer if you're so inclined, that we sane ones, can manage to get the republicans out of power this fall and begin to turn this thing around... It's a huge task now, and if we get really really lucky and put Obama in the WH? It will only be a very small beginning.... Obama's not going to be able to fix this mess in four or even 8 years... It's gonna take years to undo this mess, decades most likely... Obama is not my first or even second choice but it's all I got to work with this election and whatever his warts, they pale in comparasion to the trainwreck that would be a McCain presidency... I honestly do not believe I have ever experienced more dire times in my country than I am living thru right now.... And I've been around long enough to have been hiding under a desk in grade school for nuke drills during the Cuban missile crisis in 62... As if that would have worked...regards; JD
Jack Damage @ 23:
Right frickin' on, Jack!!!
The very rich, the "have mores", the war mongering, KNOW NOT WHAT THEY OWN, non-volenteers. They have the power of their EXTRA TAX FREE\OFF SHORE HIDDEN ACCOUNTS, etc. -TO SIMPLY PLAY WITH, ADVERTISE, and FUNDRAISE with the best, ORGANIZE LIKE NO OTHER, and just like the party they represent, WILL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES, ANYTIME, ANYWHERE.
It IS a game of "Survival of the fitest".
The have-nots, the jobless, the homeless, the uneducated, the unhealthy without health care, the mind altering by any means crowd, well,.... you figure it out.
The few, the caring, like many of those here, must work TWICE as hard as those well organized of means, using mega lies and endless dirty tatics, to get a quarter of the results needed. The deck is SEVERELY STACKED like it's never been before.
They OWN the media. We don't. They OWN the financial system. We don't. They have immunities. We don't. They have lobbyists with dumptrucks full of shiney bobbles and trinkets. We don't. They OWN the places we all work for (what's left "right here"). They MAKE the paper we use and determine how much it is really worth, at their OWN disgression and pleasure. They own the massive amounts interest on the massive amounts of debts, "THEY", NOT us, built up. Doing what THEY wanted, not what WE wanted.
It is a David vs. Goliath scinareo.
The people MUST organize like NEVER before.
We DO, at least, have the NUMBERS.
Or else, they WILL win, AGAIN.
It is certainly laudable for Jon Soltz to argue that veterans should be receiving better care in this country after they return from Iraq and Afghanistan. But Soltz is focusing on the symptom and not the cause. There will be more veterans filling up VA hospital beds across this country because they have been brain damaged, have been severely burned, blinded, missing their limbs and suffering as I am from PTSD as long as they are sent to Iraq and Afghanistan. Like a good soldier who never thinks to question orders, Soltz is not calling for both candidates to immediately withdraw American forces from Iraq and in the so-called "good war" in Afghanistan. Until that happens, expect to see more American soldiers and other military personnel sacrificed and returning to this country grievously wounded for absolutely no justifiable reason whatsoever.
Also, if Soltz truly cares for these veterans, he would also urge that military personnel desert from their units as quickly as possible because he realizes [or at least should realize] that those soldiers should not be used as cannon fodder and that they should not have to return to this country fractured in both mind and body because of the lies given to them by their government. Soltz should also be telling these soldiers that their presence in Iraq and Afghanistan is needlessly killing and maiming unjustifiably many innocent Iraqis and Afghans. This is what a caring veteran should be trying to do in order to help his fellow veterans but Soltz, being programmed to believe that speaking out against the military and the government is a bad thing, refuses to speak out on behalf of his fellow veterans.
OTwhy? CL #31
it's a culture war as usual. people will vote their culture and hell with the issues. there are people
that really PERCEIVE that they are just like Palin........ so what.
Listen closely to republicans that criticize: they are very general about positive comments about
themselves and particular when speaking negative about the opposition. why? decite...deception
it's weird some people want to be lied to......it empowers them vs. the truth..this lipstick thing
is a perfect example.
Dancer @17 I'm with you. There's the Dems fucking ad staring them right in the face. Look at what the repubs do. This isn't rocket science.
ohh - i dunno here we go .... the fall of man and the story of Cain and Abel-
and so the story goes where we have (mc)CAIN - the murderer and he who is ABLE- the murdered (through out right lies and distortions)
Jack Damage @ 56:
You're right. There's isn't a soul on this planet who can fix this mess. My concern is who out there is gonna TRY. That's the secret — it's in the TRYING. I just don't believe that McCain will even try. I believe that Obama will.
Obama - Trying we can believe in!
If enough people would only read what Stoltz has to say
Right on the money
mjULTRA @ 64:
McCain trying "support our troops".... Not!
Oh and the latest McCain campaign slogan... "He's the only candidate that has fought for you"... should read, "He's the only candidate that has fought for you unless you are a Vet"
Jakflorida32169@63 & MULTRA@64 & others....
'Trying we can believe in'...cute... Well, for lack of a better candidate or cuter theme for the banners... Yea, I guess I'm buyin into it for this fall... What's the alternative really folks... McCain???? I'm a Kuch man but he ain't runnin... We all need to face the facts that this is a big ol shithole we ain't gonna dig ourselves out of in many of us breathing this minutes life...Just too much work now, not gonna happen. If Obama can get in, and if we can hold his feet to the fire and not allow the idiots to frame all the coming debates and begin to steer him... If we just get him to begin to undue the last eight, nay thirty years of this abysmal Ray-gun revolution shit... That's probably the best we can hope for.. Just get the cleanup started.. Well, that and not allowing another repub to gain that power for ohh about a generation... I hated the late and not lamented by me William F. Buckley.. but he was right about one thing.. The fucking republican party needs to trot its ass out into the woods and cleanse itself for about 30 freaking years... And I figure that's just about right for the amount of time its going to take us to clean up after this latest mess they've made in our name..... Jesus and I thought Poppy Bush was bad.....Well actually he was but his crappy little brat cokehead drunken fratboy son??..... Ahhh, fuck it, got no more words for it right now.....JD
Why does John McCain hate America and our troops?
The plan is to so degrade the military that the government has 'no choice' but to rely increasingly on mercenary, private troops such as Blackwater.
The final end of that pesky thing called 'accountability' will be a godsend for them.
McCain (or anyone else seeking high office) is hardly likely to cast votes which go against this plan.
I hope this clears things up for you.
This contempt for American servicemen should be one of the first subjects for an Obama 527-supported TV ad. Over a year ago I mentioned the inadequate body- and vehicle-armoring issue to my dental hygienist, whose husband is a cop, and both care about our military. She was shocked to hear this news -- news that she obviously had not heard from the MSM.
mjULTRA @ 64:
McSame - Lying, lying, lying... you better believe it!
We can add using Jessica Lynch and Pat Tillman as PR props for GOP / USO show.
JD, you are spot on tonight. I'm with ya.
Are we ever going to get past this "support the troops" crap on all sides? It's tiresome. Yeah yeah, everyone supports the troops. Why wouldn't they? Republicans and Democrats, every person on every side, all member countries of NATO, and all of them are right and noble in their reasons for saying that they support the troops.
Maybe it's time to scrap the slogan altogether... some troops are alright people, some are not, some are into being at war, some are into objecting... some do nice things while on the job, some do horrible things while on the job. There is no measurable "the" in the slogan "support the troops" and that's why it's such a great piece of propaganda. You might just as well say "support the politicians" or "support the faithful". Which ones are we talking about? All of them, or just the ones who do things that we individually like because of our political affiliations and social views?
Seriously - let's get rid of this slogan. It's really annoying and it causes way more confusion than clarity on very important and timely matters that are facing us all. If I have to hear one more pundit or politician or blogger saying the other side doesn't support the troops I'm gonna puke.
Enough with the "support the troops" @ 75:
Sorry you feel the need to puke, but wake up already. This, the invasion of Iraq, was completely and totally unnecessary, and simply a cover for the control of oil. If you don't get that now, you never will. I hope the hundreds of thousands of innocent dead Iraqi's screams as they died haunt you forever.
McPale's Navy @ 76:
Mr. McCale's Navy - you have missed the point of my post about scrapping the "Support the troops" slogan. I was and am vehemently against the Iraq invasion disaster and have nothing but empathy for all the Iraqis wiped out in the process of its execution. I saw that it was unnecessary from day one and feel it is completely about oil and always has been and that it has nothing to do with altruistic freeing of oppressed people we're being sold on it as being.
McPOW thinks he's a great man, beause he's offering the Nation a free ride on the Bullshit Express.
innocent bystander @ 12:
Why choose? All of the above.
Here's John McCain, America........he finished in the bottom 10 of his graduating class that would sallow him to fly fighter planes. He proved how qualified you are in the bottom 10 by crashing 2-3 planes in training....the man's PROVEN!
Then, he finally gets into combat duty and that lasts 3 months before being shot down (not being able to avoid a missle.....like he probably could've had he been in the top 50 of his grad class)
So Johnny becomes a hero....by what... (as Guiliani would express) becoming a prisoner? Doesn't that make all the "boots on the ground" soldiers heroes just for being in harms way? Do you know who they were?
McCain then meets another woman whose father can line him up with the right people and seeing the opportunity, Johnny goes on the attack and dumps his wife. What an opportunist!
Ironically,,,,,here is this created hero with his 3 months combat duty experience, turning down bills that would support servicemen benefits.......people who are fighting and dying in John McCains illegal war.
You know that fish in paper McCain speaks about.....he's THAT fish!!
"When it comes to their claim to support the troops, John McCain and his party are flat-out liars. The message is simple - if you really support the troops, stop voting Republican."
I thought this was understood? Pacifist liberals have always loved our troops!
Good old mcshame as a senator he took good care of himself got himself a 60.000 $ disable pension, he come home with both of his arms and legs. Now when are troops come home from bush,s war he wants to screw them and cut help to them to the bone and makes it hard to get help and a pension for them. I am a vet and over there when he was over there and i verly hear brothers talk no less cry about it like Mcshame, most look at it we were lucky are names are not on the wall in washington as our brothers are.Remember he was just a pilot he did his missions and comes back he has no knowledge of war or planning he did not go to war colledge to study fighting and winning war,s. A good leader is not a hot head with temper, thats what gets us in wars.
Baby killers need to be tried and executed for their crimes.
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