Second!

Not even 10 minutes into this thing and McCain's already lying about "Georgia invading South Ossetia!!"

For God's sake, would someone in the media set him straight on this B.S.????

McCain believes that all the volunteer services are overstaffed with volunteers.

Does he believe this shit or does he just make it up?

uh oh, now they're playing gustav as a "get out of katrina free" card

k @ 5:

woohoo - public sector question

why is he pushing volunteers so much?

...it's, uh... kinda what this whole shindig is about, more or less. :p

pow time!

k @ 5:

woohoo - public sector question

why is he pushing volunteers so much?

Not just pushing volunteers, but pushing the role of government.

That's because he is in NY.

When he's in Alabama...he'll be spitting venom at the idea of government as a solution.

McCain doesn't believe in anything but being President...to satisfy his ego.

He's a shill and a fake...a lying sack of shit with no scruples who would sell out his mother to win an election.

Is he fucking kidding ?

He "doesn't like talking about it" (his being a POW) ; it's all he fucking has , like 9/11 was all Drooliani had ............

What a lying , poisonous , treasonous , snake...............

omg, mccain is coming down on colombia's non-recruiter rules

Being a military man, I kind of agree with McCain, as far as allowing students the option of ROTC.

I do like that their super fast response to the non event of hurricane custav seems to absolve them of the still horrifying lack of response to katrina.

McWetstart's idea of "public service" is "block watchers". Welcome to Nazi America.

mccain on financial rewards, oh bejeezus

still dissing the govt

This is news to me, that McCain has a bill calling for a compulsory draft?!

Whaddup with that?

"The tone would have been different if I had had my way. Wah, wah."

What a damn joke.

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He defends Palin's community organizer insult

Of course the tenure of the campaign is Baracks fault for not having town hall meeting - nice placement!
A-Hole

I just caught McSame in a gaffe!!!!

He said that Jack Kennedy and Barry Goldwater had town hall debates, but those two didn't run against each other. It was Johnson vs. Goldwater.

He screws it up again.

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he's kinda saying, rely on your volunteers, and go f yourselves

JoeMarasmus @ 36:

I just caught McSame in a gaffe!!!!

He said that Jack Kennedy and Barry Goldwater had town hall debates, but those two didn't run against each other. It was Johnson vs. Goldwater.

He screws it up again.

The Kennedy/Goldwater thing was a myth that never happened. It was believed that the two were going to go across the country and do a bunch of town hall meetings together. Hell, they were even going to take the same flight and stay in the same hotel.

Then Kennedy got shot.

McWetstart does it again. He wants to have town hall meetings with Obama just like "Jack Kennedy had with Goldwater." Kennedy ran against Nixon. Lyndon Johnson ran against Goldwater.

Please no more comedian Presidents.

George Bush was a big enough clown to last us a century.

i'm listening from another room -

did he just blubber like a horse?

oh. my. gawd. ... how very presidential...

he totally made a joke, he's still got it *snap *snap *snap

Them cons sure loves them wars.

Palin leaves open option of war with Russia
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080911/ap_on_el_pr/palin_interview

"Palin told Charles Gibson of ABC News that she'd favor including Georgia and Ukraine, both former Soviet republics, in NATO despite opposition by Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin. Asked whether the United States would have to go to war with Russia if it invaded Georgia, and the country was part of NATO, Palin said: "Perhaps so."

"I mean, that is the agreement when you are a NATO ally, is if another country is attacked, you're going to be expected to be called upon and help," she said."

I thought it was a Half hour segment - I dread listening to him any longer

John in Mpls @ 56:

I thought it was a Half hour segment - I dread listening to him any longer

i know right, but obamas up next right?

K - Which is why I am still here

After 28 years of GOP bullshit...I don't believe a word they say.

Liars, charlatans and simply morally corrupt.

Obama's millions of Americans will send John McSame packing come November

Just@61, How do your friends feel about McCain? I'm curious about what baby-boomers feel about McCain.

Well...tomorrow's another day...I only watched to see if he would lose bladder control.

If John McCain is alive in 2042, I will be most impressed.

Liberal AND Proud @ 68:

Well...tomorrow's another day...I only watched to see if he would lose bladder control.

OMG LMAO

Get the hook.

Is Lieberman and Graham standing in the wings in case he slips up?

I am watching this with my British husband here in London. You should have seen his face when McCain mentioned American exceptionalism. This old bastard has no place being president. Anyway, Obama is on now. I want to hear what a real service minded person has to say.

If Obama doesn't completely screw this up by saying "thumbs up to the draft" or something that is simply dumb beyond words, this could turn into Saddleback all over again.

Only, in reverse.

me_over_here @ 78:

I am watching this with my British husband here in London. You should have seen his face when McCain mentioned American exceptionalism. This old bastard has no place being president. Anyway, Obama is on now. I want to hear what a real service minded person has to say.

Didn't you know that Republicans universally feel that all Americans are exceptional - they own patriotism, service, torture, ...ooops.

Aaron S. Veenstra @ 40:

I'm the student leader the Social Media & Democracy research group at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. We conducted a survey of political blog readers in 2006 and are following that up with a new study this year. This is a two-part study, the second part of which will happen after the elections in November. We would greatly appreciate if you could take 15-20 minutes to participate in the survey. Click here to access it.

If you are interested in our research group, we have a new and in-progress web site up, which has some of the papers we've produced with more on the way:

http://www.journalism.wisc.edu/smad/

The group is overseen by Professor Dhavan Shah, and if you have questions about the study you can contact him at dshah@wisc.edu or myself at asveenstra@wisc.edu. We hope to have initial results on our site by November and results from the full study by early 2009. Thanks for your help, we greatly appreciate it!

I tried to do the survey but when it asked me how many U.S. soldiers had been killed in Iraq the box would only take 3 numbers. I do believe the answer is at least 4,000.

Barack Obama: I GOT THIS

Orangutan. @ 86:

Barack Obama: I GOT THIS

...I want that on a mug.

k @ 77:

did mccain just admit the american govt is hiring illegals?

Only to fight our war and if they have green cards, which means they're legal but not citizens. Apparently we're promising them a quicker path to citizenship if they'll enlist and fight our war for us.

As far as I know there is nothing firm on that, only hints, and a small number of legal aliens have enlisted in hopes of citizenship. I guess they have more faith in promises from Bush than I do.

ronhohn @ 91:

Who screeched a minute ago?

Cindy McCain

Is McCain drilling here, drilling now?

John in Mpls @ 92:

ronhohn @ 91:

Who screeched a minute ago?

Cindy McCain

Yeah, well whoever it was I hope they were punched in the throat. My dog won't stop barking at the damn TV now.

The Realist @ 96:

John in Mpls @ 92:

ronhohn @ 91:

Who screeched a minute ago?

Cindy McCain

Yeah, well whoever it was I hope they were punched in the throat. My dog won't stop barking at the damn TV now.

The bricklayers grip works more than the punch!

John in Mpls @ 95:

He is so on top of it - he announces the break!

Hell yeah man.

Looks like the good old Gov from Alaska has a koolaid iv.
mainlining baby.

The Admirals grandson and son never worked for $12,000 a year - McSame is the real elitist!!!

This is what I heard:

They explained the imbalance of social classes (poor vs rich) in the make up of the military, the lowering of standards in educational requirements (no mention of felons now serving) and the problem of meeting manpower needs.

McCain wants to fix the recruitment problem by increasing the size of the military? Without a draft! By increasing reenlistment incentives and useing solutions like they did with pilots in the 70's (pay them more).

He's against compulsory service requirements for our citizens but wants people to volunteer on their own, hoping private (businesses) and other non-governmental organizations (religious and charitable organizations).

Growing up knowing one will have to "serve the nation" can have great benefits to the nation and to those facing service. There will be options in the service requirements beyond the existing options in military service (different branches). Perhaps service as a community organizer for several years (LMFAO), Peace Corps type service or WPA and CCC type endeavors that either benefits a group of citizens or provides training in a marketable skill. Young people will be encouraged to think about their options and have ample time examine the options they have.

Having begun this while McLame was on, Obama is now expressing my very thoughts. I yield to him.

service is good, a job can be better, esp if youre unemployed

I heard on the Peter B show today that the McCain camp is e-mailing people about absentee ballots.
Does anyone know anymore about this? Peter B wants people to get in touch with him if they've been e-mailed about this.
If you have received one of these SAVE IT!

ronhohn @ 34:

He defends Palin's community organizer insult

That's because he's a Palindrone.

Palin is a sicko (McCain too)

You see, the city of Wasilla, didn't want to "burden" taxpayers with having to support victims of rape. Yes, they were more interested in lowering taxes. It would have cost the city between $5,000 and $14,000 a year to pay for the rape victims' police medical exams. And if the City of Wasilla, circa the year 2000, wants to go there in terms of balancing rape vs, burdening taxpayers, you should know that each and every Alaskan gets a check from the state government each year, it contains their portion of that year's oil revenues.

Bloggers have been writing for a few days about reports that Sarah Palin's town charged rape victims for forensic exams when she was mayor. Now former Alaska Governor Tony Knowles has come out in support of the story. McClatchy reports:

Two state leaders lashed out at the public record of Gov. Sarah Palin on Wednesday as witnesses in a new "Alaska Mythbusters" forum coordinated by supporters of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.

Speaking to a teleconference audience of reporters around the nation, former Gov. Tony Knowles and current Ketchikan Mayor Bob Weinstein -- both Democrats -- accused Palin of misleading the public in her new role as the vice presidential running mate of Arizona Sen. John McCain.

While some of their complaints have already been aired, Knowles broke new ground while answering a reporter's question on whether Wasilla forced rape victims to pay for their own forensic tests when Palin was mayor.

True, Knowles said.

Eight years ago, complaints about charging rape victims for medical exams in Wasilla prompted the Alaska Legislature to pass a bill -- signed into law by Knowles -- that banned the practice statewide.

"There was one town in Alaska that was charging victims for this, and that was Wasilla," Knowles said.

USA Today has more:

According to the sponsor, Democrat Eric Croft, the law was aimed in part at Wasilla, where now-Gov. Sarah Palin was mayor. When it was signed, Wasilla's police chief expressed displeasure.

...

"In retrospect, I would have asked the female working-mother mayor of that town why her police chief was against this," said Croft, the former Anchorage state representative.

Palin spokeswoman Maria Comella said in an e-mail that the governor "does not believe, nor has she ever believed, that rape victims should have to pay for an evidence-gathering test."

"Gov. Palin's position could not be more clear," she said. "To suggest otherwise is a deliberate misrepresentation of her commitment to supporting victims and bringing violent criminals to justice."

Comella would not answer other questions, including when Palin learned of Wasilla's policy or whether she tried to change it. The campaign cited the governor's record on domestic violence, including increasing funding for shelters.

And US News tells readers that, while Wasilla was the only town in Alaska with this foul policy, it isn't the only place in the U.S..

The Jed Report finds the connection to John McCain:

In 1994, John McCain voted against legislation -- pushed through Congress by Joe Biden -- that helped put an end to the practice of charging rape victims for sexual assault exams.

Twisted as it may sound, charging victims for a forensic exam was a real problem. For example, as AMERICAblog has documented (and the media is now reporting), when Sarah Palin was mayor of Wasilla, the town charged rape victims for the exams.

Biden's legislation required that state, local, and Indian governments provide the rape exams to victims free of charge as a condition of receiving federal funds under the Violence Against Women Act. In 2000, Alaska finally passed state legislation in order to qualify for federal funding.

McCain not only opposed Biden's legislation, but also has voted against funding it as recently as October 2007.

Joe Biden is truly for women

John in Mpls @ 85:

cobsjo @ 79:

Palin asked about the Bush Doctrine... She doesn't know:

GIBSON: Do you agree with the Bush doctrine?

PALIN: In what respect, Charlie?

GIBSON: The Bush -- well, what do you -- what do you interpret it to be?

PALIN: His world view.

GIBSON: No, the Bush doctrine, enunciated September 2002, before the Iraq war.

PALIN: I believe that what President Bush has attempted to do is rid this world of Islamic extremism, terrorists who are hell bent on destroying our nation. There have been blunders along the way, though. There have been mistakes made. And with new leadership, and that's the beauty of American elections, of course, and democracy, is with new leadership comes opportunity to do things better.

GIBSON: The Bush doctrine, as I understand it, is that we have the right of anticipatory self-defense, that we have the right to a preemptive strike against any other country that we think is going to attack us. Do you agree with that?

PALIN: Charlie, if there is legitimate and enough intelligence that tells us that a strike is imminent against American people, we have every right to defend our country. In fact, the president has the obligation, the duty to defend.

Pre-emptive strikes are defensive - didn't you know?

What the hell has Lieberman been doing?? I thought he was tutoring her. He was probably too busy looking at her "best credentials."

mudshark @ 110:

I heard on the Peter B show today that the McCain camp is e-mailing people about absentee ballots.
Does anyone know anymore about this? Peter B wants people to get in touch with him if they've been e-mailed about this.
If you have received one of these SAVE IT!

This is going on in several of the swing states. If you get one, contact your local democrat office and possibly your local media.

corps is the word, its got groove, its got feeling

woohoo, talking about investing in education always makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside, im sooooo a democrat

Charlie sounded offensive tonight and was interrupting Palin. What was Bush doctrine, Charlie? Or for that matter what was George Washington's doctrine or the FDRs?

It was always social, economical, or religious factors were involved.

I am not sure if Charlie was trying to be a snort or he might have been nervous with mixed emotions.

I thought Palin did well to say that we may have to go after Russia. Russia is a threat globally. Folks, be prepared to be drafted.

In addition, Palin stuck to her answer about Israel's self defense in times of war and Charlie had to swallow the hard pill.

Investing in education is all the investment we have left.

Joe @ 125:

Obama is very clear and on point and offer a plan. McCain offered nothing and had no vision for the future. McCain has nothing to offer this country. I hope people of this country wake up and see McCain is an empty suit.

I swear that McCain sounded like he was going to have a stroke, confused, not completing sentances, and not staying on topic.

EZ @ 124:

Charlie sounded offensive tonight and was interrupting Palin. What was Bush doctrine, Charlie? Or for that matter what was George Washington's doctrine or the FDRs?

It was always social, economical, or religious factors were involved.

I am not sure if Charlie was trying to be a snort or he might have been nervous with mixed emotions.

I thought Palin did well to say that we may have to go after Russia. Russia is a threat globally. Folks, be prepared to be drafted.

In addition, Palin stuck to her answer about Israel's self defense in times of war and Charlie had to swallow the hard pill.

What makes you think Russia is a threat to the US?
As for Israel, I wish those folks would negotiate a peace with their neighbors . I'm sick and tired of all the trouble there.
Both parties are guilty. It's easy to hate.

I think 'community' infers 'local'

#131 point taken. That I agree with. Should not be partisan

One responsibility of citizenship is PAYING ATTENTION.

- Obama

MountainMan23 @ 136:

One responsibility of citizenship is PAYING ATTENTION.

- Obama

Hear hear!!!

ronhohn @ 139:

John in Mpls @ 138:

MountainMan23 @ 136:

One responsibility of citizenship is PAYING ATTENTION.

- Obama

Hear hear!!!

And there.

And everywhere in between.

Idealism is GOOD.

Take THAT...Hannity, Limbaugh and Levin.

Yowwser!

Ron @ 145:

It sounds like they liked Obama's ideas better.

Home field advantage had a bit to do with that - but I will take any advantage

Obama made up for Saddleback, and then some.

I cannot stand David Gregory! He apologizes for McCain and promotes McCain. Too bad his boss Griffin loves the guy.