Obama to step it up
This is good news, but we'll wait and see. It's time for David Plouffe to put up.
Senator Barack Obama will intensify his assault against Senator John McCain, with new television advertisements and more forceful attacks by the candidate and surrogates beginning Friday morning, as he confronts an invigorated Republican presidential ticket and increasing nervousness in the Democratic ranks.
I don't understand why they are surprised about the nasty, vile attacks against Obama. This is what they do and how they win elections and was totally predictable. I do like the fact that Obama met with Bill Clinton. I think he kinda knows how to win against these maniacs.
Beyond that, Mr. Obama's aides said they had been taken aback by the newfound aggressiveness of the McCain campaign under Steve Schmidt, who has played an increasingly powerful role since last summer. Even as the aides have denounced the tactics as unsavory, they acknowledge that Mr. McCain is running a more effective campaign than he was a month ago.
It's character assassination politics and they are good at it. Rove is back at the helm too so it's going to stay ugly.
Digby has an insider's take named Deep Insight:
In his acceptance speech Obama developed a very useful overall line of attack against McCain. He needs to continue a clear critique of the current economic situation and also offer a forward-looking message about the next generation of jobs. Some of his advertising has been good in this vein but he has to attack Bush-McCain economics every day.
Obama also needs to continue right after McCain on his Bush like foreign policy. McCain certainly looks like he is itching for more combat, as one wag put it; he is President Sonny Corleone after 8 years of Fredo. He has turned Iraq into a story about "winning" and is now trying to turn the Russian/Georgia border war into an international revival of the Cold War.
Yes, can I have some more.
The Republicans have been winning the day-to-day “free” press war. Of course it helps if much of the press is your “base.” To date, the McCain campaign has had better though highly misleading ads. The Obama advertising does not yet reflect the quality of his candidacy. It looks and sounds like traditional political advertising.
And still:
The GOP is far better at employing surrogates. In a 24/7 news cycle, the Democrats need better attacks that make news. Of course some of the attacks are ridiculous as in the GOP “lipstick on a pig” smear. But it is the reality, the modern media as a clown show...
The Obama field program will be unprecedented, but will only make the deciding difference if the fundamental framework of the election is for a referendum on failed Republican policy. The campaign still has an enthusiasm advantage that will result in more committed volunteers willing to walk precincts in their neighborhoods. But Republicans know how to turn out the conservative base, now more energized with Palin. On the other hand, this is the first election where the Democrats should have a technology advantage due to the superiority in digital communications like text messaging.
I think it's too late.
it's the economy again........stupid!
If Obama wants the rest of us to show some passion and to get out there and work for his election, he damn well better show some passion himself; show that the gloves are off and that he truly does want this thing!!!
ENOUGH!
hope its not to late
Just get it done.
Obama is toast. If your competent and tough you don't have to announce that you are. If your weak and washy then you make announcements about how tough you are. The fact that Obama is just now figuring out that McCain will be just as nasty as every other Republican shows very poor judgment from Obama. Wake up America. Obama nor McCain is what your looking for.
The new "McCain is old" ad kind of sucks.
He needs to be WAY more hard hitting....seriously...
About time, particularly in light of McCain's Latest Ad: Obama’s Support of Pre-K ‘Simon Says’ Encourages Masturbation
Dukie Boy Rove has met his match with some of Biden's staffers from Delaware. Believe me!
Nobody ever said that the repugs didnt run a campagian well, they just cant govern for shit and Obama needs to tell America that as loud as he can. Tell America that if McCain lies to you now, what do think he will do when he becomes prez?
Trawled Alien @ 6:
Then who shall we vote for Baar? Nadar?
Obama needs to hit, and hit HARD, and he needs to be relentless from now until the election.
He needs to be VICIOUS.
He needs direct, no nonsense, two or three words answers, slogans and comments. And everybody he can lay hands on need to be mobilized in the effort.
2 little and way 2 late . . . .
aaaaaaaahhhhhhhh the smell of 30m rabid intellectually dishonest libs all defecating in their shorts.
PRICELESS
to me this 'one accomplishment' the sex education claim
is totally below the belt.....the education program is age
sensitive. to tell the public any different is unreal.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/off_base_on_sex_ed.html
Trawled (or is it troll) at post 6.
Obama is toast?
You're kidding yourself. The polls are only even right now because of a Palin "surge".
The right was disappointed with their nominee (remember the Limbaugh outrage) from the start. There was no excitement in this campaign, and then along comes Palin.
The Repblicans KNOW that she is a terrible choice, and is entirely unqualified. It is a fake enthusiasm that will surely fade.
It would fade even without the Troopergate scandal and the information coming out on Palin that brings to light the realilty that she is a "token" selection.
Don't get me wrong, it will be close, but if the polls show a tie, the younger vote (overwhelmingly for Obama, and doesn't show up in the polls since they are not former voters) will offest the "racist" factor inherent in the polls from people who won't admit they will not vote for a (half) black person.
Obama/Biden will start to show a rise in the polls, and will win this election.
Later
It bloody hell is NOT too late.
The election will be won on TURNOUT.
Anyone feeling discouraged has got to get over it.
Anyone actively sowing discouragement is a TRAITOR.
McCain & Palin are doing a GREAT job of self-destructing.
Obama & Biden have caught their second wind & it's time to pour it on.
The Dems need to start talking about Palin's incestuous family. That ought to do it. And her unpaid taxes.
Nukes and Mooseburgers
-----
President Merkin Muffley: Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room.
now is the time to hit hard. if palin is allowed to fester any longer, she will develop teflon. americans don't seem to mind corruption, abuse of power, infidelity, warmongering, religious zealotry, just don't talk too intelligently or act "uppity." palin's credibility has to be attacked along with the temperamental instability of mccain. all done within the context, of course, of the relevant issues.
bateman @ 5:
Exactly. Stay positive. Do your work.
Barack Obama: I GOT THIS.
Iben Hakenluggis @ 13:
Projecting again I see.
Not a good strategy. Attacks on McCain will only rev up McCain's base. Even though its boring and doesn't grab the headlines, stick to the economy and issues, aim for the independents, the undecideds.
Obama's advantages are that the right is demoralized, the left is energized and the country is in piss poor shape. Attacking McCain doesn't help. Stay clean, take the high-road and appeal to the independents and the undecideds. They'll vote with their money on their minds.
Well, I just saw two new Obama ads today, and both were piss-poor. One has Obama reiterating what "chaage" means, the other is a cutesy attack on McCain not knowing how the send an e-mail. Not anywhere near good enough.
If all the American electorate has to worry about is McCain's an old geezer and computer illiterate, then he can't be all that bad, right?
Axelrod, Plouffe and Gibbs better get their act together, or they'll go down as the worst strategists in political history. Succesfully planning and co-ordinating huge campaign events don't win votes. That's been proven twice already. Throwing everthing you've at the oppostion does. So far, I haven't seen a single effective attack from the Obama campaign. If they wait any longer, it'll be too late. It 's not like there isn't anything out there on McCain and Palin.
~Images from Abu Ghraib come on the screen to fade away only to be replaced with another~
Voice over:
"The Republicans have altered America's image abroad in a way no other party in America's history ever has."
~ Cut to man in silhouette busy scrapping the sole of his shoe~
Voice over:
"America you really stepped in it, but it is time to clean the Republicans off our soles before we track them all over the next decade and ruin those years as well."
Centrocitta @ 17:
We need to take it to McCain. He is the one who chose this tripe. We should beat her lies back with a stick from time to time as she is the V.P. Candidate. But the real race is won through McCain and the history of his party the last eight years.
Barack Obama: I GOT THIS.
i'm watching some msnbc they were talking to someone in new hampshire where obama is polling well. anyways this person said why is obama seem to be running against palin?
well anytime you ask about her experience. they go right to obama....if you have time watch the portland,maine local newscaster ask mccain about her national security experience he responds with energy.
they bring up her having executive experience.....well let's see oh yeah...........mccain has NO executive experience.
they don't compare palin to biden.
It's about time. After the Gibson/Palin interview he can still pull this off.
Palin promotes incest. They need to fit THAT in somewhere, somehow.
Don’t underestimate the Obama campaign. They have done just about everything better than anybody thought they were going to. I mean on a week by week basis. Now the Palin has spoken watch out!
Sign up and get connected through your community organization.. www.BarackObama.com
It's like 53 days or something until November 4th.
Obama to step it up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV_0eKNBZPo
Obama should make a commercial where he talks about the values of cities and suburbs as well as small towns, thus unifying everybody under American values. He can say that he sees good people and good values everywhere, which can counter Palin's argument that only small towns make good people.
make an ad with Palin in front of the naked man pile in abu gharaib...lol
"want some more of this?"
there is a pic of a guard with a dog threatening a naked detainee and the dogs teeth are inches fro the detainees "junk"
make that guard look like palin
Filthy Harry @ 22:
i agree with #23. look, it's not the base that we need to convert, it's the undecideds. these people bend and switch with every damn ad on tv and every piece of propaganda. they've got to be persuaded by more than facts. the hypocrisy and zealotry of mccain/palin has to be spoon-fed to these undecideds; they won't figure it out for themselves.
To win against these vicious gangster, you have to be just as vicious, but I don't agree with some of you that it is too late.
My god the ammunition the Liberals have. 8 years of one disaster after another, a VP who believes Iraq was involved in 9/11.
Even Bush doesn't believe that anymore
Go Obama, don't take any crap
Centrocitta @ 28:
This sounds like a distraction to me. Something Rove would love for us to focus on. Anyone know of Centrocitta's credentials around here? Didn't think so. Stay Strong. Peace.
Iben Hakenluggis @ 13:
After yesterday's interview with Ms. Palin do believe that it is the intellectually and factually dishonest Republicans who are shitting in their panties.
I think Obama knows what he's doing. He did this before. Take a few punches, wait, then come back for an uppercut. Remember this guy can fill a stadium anywhere and create a brilliant speech. Remember the 'race' speech? He has the ability to address an actual issue and create an intelligent conversation about it. No matter how hard McCain and Palin try, they could never do that.
It's time for the following:
1. A beat the bitch ad. Showing McCain and his interest in women's rights, including his lack of support for equal pay and his interest in a constitutional amendment to ban abortion. They need to start running this add in all the contested states.
2. An abuse of power ad. Show how Palin and McCain are power abusers. Tie them to Bush.
3. Incompetence ad. Show how McCain/Palin are clueless, tie into Bush's cluelessness (e.g. Lieberman tell McCain about Al Qaeda Iran stuff).
4. Financial corruption. Keeting Five tied into current bank and financial meltdown.
rick street @ 34:
As yesterday's interview filters down the food chain these people who you are talking about will be appalled at this fake.
Frank Capra was asked to produce anti-German "propaganda" for the US government during WWII, so he simply took the Nazi propaganda films and showed them here, letting Hitler's own words and rallies work against him. This is all Obama needs to do -- show McCain speaking out of both sides of his mouth on every issue. Let the Republicans own words defeat them. If Kerry had shown the clip of Bush flipping off the TV camera and saying "I don't know where Osama is and I don't give it that much thought" the Dems would have won. Because how do you attack someone for smearing you when the person they are quoting is YOU?
So easy...
Palin's tax returns.
Filthy Harry @ 22:
Really? How can anyone be undecided at this point?
dave @ 38:
I am quoting this comment because YOU need to read it again because it hits the nail on the head.
Add to the the upcoming debates.
Mr. Obama’s aides said they had been taken aback by the newfound aggressiveness of the McCain campaign under Steve Schmidt...
Huh? This statement worries me. Are his aides that much out touch with "play dirty" politics? Schmidt is a well-known entity and his style is also well-known. Did they really think the Republicans were gonna roll over and play nice?
Once again, as we saw with Kerry, there's an inappropriate political naivete and gullibility within the Dem ranks that invites further destruction.
easy to read obama vs. mccain tax proposal(s)
another good source about obama economic plan is an
interview with nj governor corzine he was the former
ceo goldman sach
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/06/09/ST20080609...
And don't start with this Hillary shit again. Her unfavorables were low during the primaries, and they'd be even lower now if she was the nominee. The Republicans wanted her to get the nomination,.. that's why you had Rupert Murdoch and Richard Mellon Scaife expressing support for her. It's also why the MSM said she won every single debate (remember that?) and declared that she would be the nominee months before a single vote had been cast.
Good advice from Krugman:
Blizzard of Lies
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/12/opinion/12krugman.html
'... the Obama campaign is wrong to suggest that a McCain-Palin administration would just be a continuation of Bush-Cheney. If the way John McCain and Sarah Palin are campaigning is any indication, it would be much, much worse.'
if i was the obama campaign why not do a few townhalls
buy some t.v time and use YouTube and reveal to people
the mccain gaffes....economy/taxes.
this is effective watch mccain when someone challenges
him with video proof.....it takes him off stride this was done by meet the press tim russert
theWalrus @ 45:
Taken aback is not the same as not knowing how to combat it. The Obama campaign is very smart and I have always said that they were waitning untilright about now. Maybe even a couple more weeks away with some flack before that. You see, they can't shoot their load too soon like McShame is doing right now with this Sarah Palin bullshit. Her lipstick is going to be all askew and she will be looking like the Joker in about three weeks. And after Biden is done with her the Republicans will be back to square one.
I agree that Obama needs some tough, scathing but truthful ads out there, about the rape kits and everything else, especially concerning Palin's recent disastrously inept foreign policy comments during her ABC interview. But I don't think we are going to see anything til after Monday, because I believe Hurricane Ike is going to push all other news to the side (I was going to say "blow everything else out of the water", but this storm looks too dangerous for puns or jokes).
But isn't it strange that just when Palin and her handlers think she can boost her creds with a Friday night broadcast interview, the hurricane may sink her, as it almost sunk the GOP convention? How come this God that the GOP screams about all the time never stops these inconvenient storms from raining on the GOP parade?
And I hope this DEA/McCain shit really hits the fan. What the fuck did Cindy McCain need a diplomatic passport for? If Michelle Obama had gotten one, the RW would be screaming that she was trying to sell nuclear secrets to Iran.
Any reference ought to be Bush/McCain or "McCain and the corrupt GOP elite".
Captain ENOUGH Kangaroo @ 29:
They need WAY more red-meat ads.
Torture, 100 year occupation, Abu Ghraib, where is Osama, alienation of allies, massive defiects.
HIT HARD!
Disco balls are NOT going to cut it in this race Obama.
.
47 Porridge Gun say: The Republicans wanted her to get the nomination,.. that’s why you had Rupert Murdoch and Richard Mellon Scaife expressing support for her.......
Have you noticed how the cat has got Duke Rove's tongue when it comes to Joe Biden? Why is THAT? Is Joe good-looking and clean, maybe?
once stewart and colbert are back next week, things should change in obama's favor.
Obama's team has to own the news cycle. Beat the bitch is the perfect way to do it. Then another news cycle with a constitutional amendment to ban abortion adding in that Sarah Palin doesn't even want abortion for rape or incest.
xoites defends Constitution @ 24:
The problem is that the top Democrats were briefed on so much of the worst.
Why will they not acknowledge the rampant criminality, because they were there.
The death of Habeas Corpus, mass surveillance, torture. Witness those who were for the fourth amendment before they were against it. These things have all been brought into statute, as the Chief Consigliere Michael Mukasey likes to put the phrase.
The illegal has been made legal, even if still unconstitutional.
As far as America's image in the rest of the world, most Americans cannot FIND the rest of the world on a map.
Inconvenient details, of course, have never stood in the way of aggressive political campaigns.
These, however, are difficult concepts for most Americans to understand.
Lipstick on a Pig, that is something Americans can get their collective 'mind' around.
Class warfare.
Talk about children, education, talk about the REAL fallout since no child left behind, talk about rising poverty, growing disparity between rich and poor, falling wages, weakened social safety net, growing unemployment...FUCK...you have got to be kidding me if we can't beat these Dickensian dickheads.
anybody that's sane would have taken aback if your accused to have supported sex education for kindergarden
kids........that's a low blow.
actually it tells me something about mccain.
With the utter disaster of the last eight years....the GOP should be our bitch.
theWalrus @ 45:
To be far, I'm surprised how low McCain has gone. He's truely sold his soul to get elected. The problem is, the Obama camp haven't launched a single hard-hitting attack on his lies, flip-flopping and gaffes. More importantly, they haven't re-defined McCain in the minds of voters as a shameless panderer to the extreme right-wing. The fact that people still think he's a moderate is huge failure on their part. That has to change in the weeks leading up to election day.
I Thought Republicans didn't believe in polls? That polls are wrong (exit polls). Now they have a lead and polls are great? sounds like another flip flop.
The most famous celebrity in Alaska.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUWLIsK7s0g
The Deadliest Catch, she is.
Obama made the mistake of taking McCain at his word that he wanted a decent sort of campaign which was only a mistake because Candidate McCain showed himself to abandoned even the pretense of running an honorable campaign. Given Obama's own commitment to try to keep the campaign clean, he couldn't very well be the first to start a nasty campaign. Now Obama has to attack on two fronts: showing why McCain is a lousy choice and why Obama is a good choice; McCain can only do the former and then only because McCain lies through his teeth (that doesn't even make McCain bat an eye: after all the Shrub did it to McCain so that makes it all right in his book).
That and vote suppression.
I'm still pissed about Obama letting O'Leilly punk him on 'The Surge."
http://bgladd.blogspot.com/2008/09/surge.html
Sorry, if the two new ads are any indication... Not tough enough.
Somehow I don't find it depressing. Obama won against one of the biggest known campaigners, Hillary. I think he will do it again. Will just have to see what rolls out over the next two weeks.
Obama could run a 'Daisy commerical' a la the Democrats commercial of 1964, run one time against Goldwater.
It nuked him. He never recovered.
The problem for the Democrats today is they are as much for war profits as Republicans.
If they were not, why do they keep funding the 'wars' without a so much as a whine?
Obama wants to INCREASE the military budget. Read his book.
What was wrong with the ad about McCain not being computer literate? I thought it was perfect.
Liberal AND Proud @ 59:
"utter"... Is that a sick sexist joke. lol
I loved the BS Sen. McCain tried to sling out to the electorate when he said that the whole reason the campaigns went negative was because Sen. Obama didn't meet McCain in Town Hall Meetings.
Here comes the WAMBULANCE! What a whining, little titty baby!
Obama will hit hard, he's got it. The 527's are already in progress:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0kiLoMY1hg - Planned Parenthood Action Fund Defends Obama, Shits on Mccain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WL_MvRu6SE - NARAL - McCain-Palin: Extreme and Dangerous
.......Somehow I don’t find it depressing. Obama won against one of the biggest known campaigners, Hillary. I think he will do it again. Will just have to see what rolls out over the next two weeks........
Of course, Obama will win. He was smart enough not to put Hillary on the ticket, wasn't he?
Centrocitta @ 69:
McCain not being computer literate is true, but it's not a tough ad.
constituent @ 46:
I just sent a link to that WAPO chart to my e-mail address book. Obama should use it in a commercial -- tell the people that McSame is full of shit and the majority of us would get a tax CUT.
McLobbyistLover doesn't realize that the party put him up as the nominee in a throwaway election. They know how bad they have destroyed the republican brand. So any damage they can do to the Dems with the support of MSM is gravy.
If they, by chance, actually win, it's a signal to finish killing governance and to finish looting the treasury.
McCain's slash and burn may be backfiring. Read what the press is saying, even some press that LOVES McCain.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/12/1382169.aspx
leftminded @ 43:
I know, its seems insane. The only support McCain should have are the lobotomites who still support Bush, but realistically independents and undecideds are who will decide the election.
surf (hussein) jac @ 71:
Just another indicator that he's a vindictive rageaholic unfit for the presidency.
Pfhreak in ARG @ 64:
Yes yes yes. The Democrats better be on this. They better stop this. Get the word out to the public like they did in 2006. I know they are working on it right now but I have not heard too much in public.
RichStraightWhiteAmericanMale @ 41:
That is the strategy I'd use. It is funny when used on The Daily Show but it is also very very powerful!!!!!!!!
This is a tough ad.
New election low: distorting the fact-checking http://www.latimes.com/news/po.....4561.story
News outlets and independent truth squads seem to agree that the McCain camp’s distortions on Barack Obama have gone too far.
. . . It got so bad the day before the anniversary of the terrorist attacks that FactCheck.org — one of the nonpartisan journalism websites heroically trying to strain truth amid all the sound and fury — had to put out an extraordinary news release.
It chastised John McCain’s campaign for — now get this — distorting FactCheck’s debunking of distortions. . . .
. . . PolitiFact rated the McCain ad [claiming Obama is sexist for the lipstick remark] “Pants on Fire” (as in “liar, liar“) on its Truth-O-Meter. “If anyone’s doing any smearing,” the site concluded, “it’s the McCain campaign and its outrageous attempt to distort the facts.”
. . . Outrageous, but just a warmup for the smarmy untruth the McCain camp uncorked next –that Obama voted in his home state of Illinois to foist detailed sex education on kindergartners.
. . . It was the McCain team, however, that plumbed new depths this week by distorting a fact-checking outfit that had come to its aid. . . Superimposing FactCheck’s “completely false, or misleading” finding over a photo of Obama, the Republicans suggested the Democrat had trumped up the charges.
FactCheck, however, found “no evidence” tying Obama to the anonymous Internet attacks. The muckrakers announced Wednesday that McCain & Co. had been “less than honest.”
Bill Clinton never went negative. He stuck to policy and was articulate enough to explain his policy.
The democratic leadership selected John Kerry II. Obama did NOT win the voters. He couldn't even win the Democratic middle class. He promised you a new kind of campaign, remember, hope, change, hope, change.
Now you want him to go down and dirty. I think he needs to pull a Bill Clinton and talk policy, policy, policy, but since he couldn't do it in the debates, he can't do it in interviews, I guess all you have left is down and dirty.
people say why attack Palin well......she's the reason
mccain's campaign is alive Palin was an option and became a reality after the dem convention or the
biden pick.
there are many people just NOW interested in mccain just because of palin.........that tells you a lot about this country. once again the republicans played this well.
i heard a woman this morning on t.v. say why women
voters are considering palin/mccain....because they
'love her'....'she held a baby on stage'....it's NOT
easy to overcome this type of simplistic stupidity
.......McCain not being computer literate is true, but it’s not a tough ad......
It doesn't have to be tough if it's effective. And it IS.
In 2000 I could easily blame the news media, the supreme court, and the election was clearly stolen. In 2004 I knew that the Republicans were going to steal, flip, or suppress about 7 million votes and the Democrats needed to turn out 8 million+. I underestimated the number and Kerry's line about knowing what he knows now he would still vote the same on the authorization to use force hurt him badly. The election was clearly stolen. In the upcoming election I have to lay all of the blame on the American voter if it is not a complete landslide. After 8 years of this sick joke of an Administration and a president with a 28% approval rating. A Republican candidate that is advocating the exact same policies, it makes no sense what so ever that the race is within 10 points. If Obama doesn't win this election and the Fascists take over for another 4 years the America that the founding fathers envisioned is dead and the American voter is 100% to blame.
I've got an axe at the root of the tree of problems.. and I'm fucking chopping man. Stay strong.
The following is a message from BraveNewPC’s Robert Greenwald
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/#98465
McCain’s Distortions: I’m John McCain and I Approve This Message
Posted by Robert Greenwald, Brave New PAC on September 11, 2008 at 11:40 AM.
We have to spread the truth about McCain ourselves because it’s clear the corporate media won’t. NOW. FAST. FURIOUS. EVERYWHERE.
We are in the two-minute drill with no timeouts. No more sitting on the sidelines and allowing the McCain campaign to rack up points with countless distortions.
Watch the video and forward it to everyone you know.
Dr Acula @ 75:
if you have time research that interview with corzine
on cnbc.....it's very good...corzine was a former goldman sach ceo
Centrocitta @ 85:
I hope you're right.
rick street @ 34:
Attacking McCain, which he'll twist and distort into horrible cruel mean nasty hurtful hateful attacks into everyone and everything the Right holds dear will only get his base to the polls. One of Obama's advantages is that the Right is demoralized and probably won't rally as much at they used to. It would be silly to knowingly engage in tactics that will mobilize these people.
As for the undecideds and the independents, if they were going to be swayed by Right BS they wouldn't be undecided nor independent. Stay clean and appeal to the economy and national security, and hammer the point that McCain is more of the last 8 and you'll take these groups.
Obama needs to do what Bush did, go over the media, straight to the people. It'll look bad for him in the MSM but he'll be vidicated in Nov. barring cheating.
As it is now, McCain is attacking Obama, and Obama is responding to the MSM. Its silly and a losing strategy.
RFinCA @ 90:
he's out of touch......if your not using the INTERNETs by now......the future is already here and mccain is NOT part
of it......he's been coasting life is easy the lobbyist do all
the hard work and says OK. this guy hasn't struggled for many/many yrs.
i still say do some townhalls using video and graphic to reveal Mccain/palin
Case in point. McCain runs dirty, the MSM cries foul but McCain doesn't CARE. It mobilizes his base. Obama needs to stop caring about the MSM as well. At this point the MSM has all the relevance of a host of a reality program. Forget getting the MSM to point out McCain's lying and failings. Obama just needs to target the indys/undecideds pointing out how bad things are and how much worse they'll get under McCain. Ignore Palin and keep from riling McCain's base.
It's starting to look like the previous two elections, Gore, Kerry and Obama taking the high road and treating all the undecideds as if they were somewhat intelligent democrats. They're not, undecideds are much stupider than liberals and conservatives(excluding Bubbas). They respond to the small but forceful words and images, they respond to the empty but flashy gesture ( the Palin pick). Barack blew it when he chose Biden instead of Hillary, lots and lots of dense women went from undecided fence-sitters to Palin supporters overnight. Obama made a huge blunder and McCains people capitalized.
81. Yes, it's a tough but unnecessary. Most people already know that if McCain lived in a box for five years that he can't be all that well in the head and that he isn't likely to improve with age.
They need more ads using McCain's own words against himself. Don't these guys watch the Daily Show? Cripes, they do a better job showing what a tool McCain is.
Show that footage of McCain struggling to answer the insurance viagra question on his bus. Show him in total shutdown as he can't remember his vote and has no clue how to respond.
Obviously, both these candidates are going in the gutter because they NEVER talk about the real issues. You all have been DUPED again. Obama talks about 'change' but what exactly is he going to change.
The third party candidates and Ron Paul have got the focus correct, END THE WARS, END THE POLICE STATE, END THE FEDERAL RESERVE AND END CORPORATE CONTROL OF GOVERNMENT.
You NEVER hear Obama or McCain talk about those. But those are the ONLY things that matter right now. WAKE UP!!!
it's so obvious that PALIN is being protected. you ask them about her experience their response is immediately about
Obama. this is rove politics.....they talk executive experience
mccain has No executive experience. the economy is first
but i still say you can't give Palin a free pass....otherwise
undecideds will except that.....people are told how to think
don't stop NOW public needs to be asked is palin ready to
be a heartbeat away/stepping in for a 72.5 president.
Take the gloves off. Kick their fucking asses to kingdom come. No more nice guy politics, this is the time to go beyiond the right's level of dirty tricks. This is no longer a boxing match with referees, it's a fucking street brawl with absolutely no rules. Kill the bastards (figuratively speaking of course) and take no prisoners. Scorched earth policy. genocide.
Do I make my point?
Like everyone has said on here.... HIRE THE DAILY SHOW STAFF... or the REAL TIME WITH BILL MAHR STAFF. COME ON OBAMA GET WITH IT WE NEED YOU IN 08!
Filthy Harry @ 22:
That's what Kerry tried in 04. The problem is the independents and undecideds don't vote. They're part of the 50% of registered voters who stay home on election day. That's why the "we're-just-like-Republicans-only-not-quite-so-loopy" strategy isn't working.
McCain has as good a strategy as he can come up with, given how little he can work with. Run to the far right, energize your base and smear your opponent. Forget about the middle. I'm guessing anyone who's still "undecided" at this point is probably also "unmotivated" and, if they do actually make it to the polls on election day, they're more likely to remember the smears than serious issues.
We need to learn from their sucess. Nice guys make concession speeches. It's not the way it should be but we need to face reality as it is.
The umbrage and the outrage shown on sites like C&L is all sound and fury, signifying nothing. Why? Because it does no good to say among ourselves what is wrong. What is needed is for everyone to speak out. By out I mean out of your comfort zone. How many of you write Letters to the Editor to your local paper? I do, every day. Sometimes more than once a day. My letters get printed many times. Why. Because I keep it brief, on subject, and provide facts that can be backed up. How many of you complain to the networks about unfair coverage? I do, every time I see an anti Obama story that is factually wrong, I let the networks know. They have to be relicenced every few years, so it also helps to send a copy to the FCC. There are many things that can be done. How many are sending letters to local or state dems to tell them to get up off their asses and fight. Stop freekin talkin about what is happening, get up off your asses and fight. Do you want to live under a McCain administration? Do you want choice to be outlawed? Do you want the multinational corporations running the US? I might be a 60 year old white man, But I damn well know that this election is a turning point in our history. If the repigs win this, in spite of the last 8 years of Bush, I will declare defeat. The american voter being to damn dumb to learn anything. The low information voter. The SHEEPLE, the know nothings, the luddities will have won. Mark my words, if McCain wins, it will be the begining of a police state. You saw the start of it in St. Paul. You also saw how no one protested. I will be leaving the US if, after McCain wins, and if he has a congress that rolls over for him. If not a veto proof senate because a police state that does not tolerate dissent will not be far behind.
Orangutan. @ 87:
Swing that Axe! where've you been hiding?
freeman @ 97:
i was with you until you said NEVER that's not true and you
know. i respect Ron Paul......but there needs to be a transition....mccain says we might be in iraq 100 yrs.
obama wants to get out in 16 months...i see a big difference with goals/intentions
It's really quite simple. As someone said, MSM be damned. The campaign needs to put out a controversial ad, something questioning McCain's honor by pointing out all the lies or some quotes about his temperament. It will get the MSM and right wing bloggers in a frenzy. When the news shows talk about it, you flood the airwaves with free advertisement and a bunch of surrogates talk about all the distortions in the campaign that led to Obama putting out that ad. Again as someone else said, undecideds are very weak-minded. It puts the idea in their heads that McCain is really not the man he portrays himself to be, but more like Bush, willing to say or do anything to win and puts politics ahead of the country.
timr @ 102:
Precisely. None of us can complain if we are only talking to ourselves and the stakes here are monumental. Seriously, we all have to do whatever we can think of to help derail the "propaganda express"
Centrocitta @ 95:
Are you saying that McCain should be ridiculed for being a POW? Bad advice. Nelson Mandela was imprisoned for years and went on to be the leader of South Africa. No, I suggest using other tactics than that.
RFinCA @ 81:
Good, but should have gone on longer and included more POW's talking about how shameless and disgraceful it is for McCain to use his POW status as a tactic and a ploy.
Yo, John, I'm available...
I’ve been to both eastern and western Canada, Mexico, the UK, and France. I drink Chinese, Japanese, Indian, Mexican, and German beer, and Australian, South African, Italian, French, Spanish, and Chilean wines. Love Filipino, French, Italian, Mexican, Chinese, Japanese, Indian, and Argentinian food.
I should be McInsane’s Secretary of State. Clearly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUWLIsK7s0g
John Armstrong @ 101:
timr @ 102:
Yes but this is an historic election, following on 8 years of failure. Besides regardless of how many of them vote, the indys/undecideds will decide. Going negative on McCain will only get MORE McCain supporters to the polls. That is McCain's strategy. Its why he's completely ignoring the MSM, sticking to his message and DARING anyone to attack him on any of the many things he leaves himself open on.
I agree the Left needs to be far more aggressive but NOT in its traditional way of trying to fight McCain's campaign in the press. It won't work. It just riles McCain's base and makes Obama look more elitist liberal which will rile more of McCain's base.
Newest Palin campaign ad.
just one ad
PALINS KIDS ARE METH HEADS
Have no fear, Red State Update is on the job!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpHBPQyoYXQ
Centrocitta @ 95:
Ok, you don't want to go that tough? How about making this into an ad. What about making Barbara Boxer's comments into an ad?
Don Thomas @ 96:
That is exactly what the ad is in my post at #88 is: McCain's words (deceptive) and the truth exposed.
Captain ENOUGH Kangaroo @ 70:
The utter utter is spelled udder.
Get your mind out of the gutter...or the gudder...or the udder or whatever.
Hitting a candidate on being computer illiterate does not win elections.
George Bush is a complete illiterate...and he has served two terms.
would this ad be over the top?
little girl playing in a field of daisies
in the background you hear gibson asking palin about what happens if georgia becomes part of nato, does that mean if russia attacks we would have to go to war
you hear palin say "perhaps...giggle"
GIANT MUSHROOM CLOUD ENVELOPS LITTLE GIRL AND ALL THE DAISIES AND YOU SEE HER GUTS BLOWING UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
little over the top???
The First Dude gets cc'd on Wifey's privileged Guv ofc emails.
Important article on the OBama team strategy by George Lakoff
http://www.alternet.org/story/98453/?page=entire
Throughout the nomination campaign I was struck by how well the Obama campaign was being run, especially how sophisticated the framing was. But recently I have begun to wonder. It looks like, in certain respects, the Obama campaign is making some of the same mistakes of the Hillary campaign and the Kerry and Gore campaigns.
The Dayton speech on education had fine policy, but was the first really deadly dull Obama speech I've heard. It started out with lots of numbers. True, but dull. And he is promising more of the same policy wonk speeches. He's right that we are facing serious realities, and he's right to say what he intends to do, but the old inspiring Obama just isn't there. And the surrogates -- Biden and Hillary -- are policy-wonking it too.
I hope I'm wrong. Given my great respect for those who ran the nomination campaign so well, I wonder if I should say anything at all. But, as I predicted, Palin has turned out to be effective and the Obama campaign has not been effective in dealing with her. I've been getting loads of email asking me to say something to the campaign. So with some hesitation and a great deal of respect, I will simply point out what I see.
REMEMBER FOLKS WE NEED TO BE OUT THERE REGISTERING REGISTERING REGISTERING
CALL YOUR LOCAL OBAMA OFFICE AND FIND OUT WHAT THEY NEED YOU TO DO.
http://www.barackobama.com/index.php
Tapping away at keyboards is great but we could all do a lot of good by volunteering for Obama’s campaign. Go to his website: http://www.barackobama.com/index.php
Look for the Obama map and click on your state. There will be telephone numbers for regional offices. They can put you to work. You can also go directly to the volunteer page: http://action.barackobama.com/page/s/volunteer
This is serious business.This is war. We all need to channel our outrage and anger. Let’s get in the trenches folks. It will be worth it come Nov 4.
Liberal AND Proud @ 117:
that ad is stupid
i like my idea of blowing your wad on an ad with every fucking repug that has been indicted and/or caught in a sex scandal
From where I stand, there has never been a general public ad from the Dems about the obvious.
That McCain flip flops. That McCain abandons his own rhetoric. That McCain cannot make coherent decision.
Time to put the "Maverick" word in the same league as a 4-letter word. Maverick is not what we want in a president
And time to air the ad that Palin is Clueless. Do we need a clueless leader to guide us through this financial hell that we are living in ?
goatsage @ 121:
i have volunteered...but i live in cali...he has this state
and i cant afford to spend 5 weeks in a battleground state...wish i could...but the economy has gotten to me
im weak
I am sick to death with these gentlemanly democrats. You want to win an election, then here is a memo to these idiots running your campaign Barack. YOU need to act like you want to win. YOU need to be fighting a dirty mudslinging campaign every god damn second of every precious day up until the votes are counted. The enemy attacks you once, you respond with three. I love crooks and liars but this is crap about Obama "stepping up." I am tired of seeing the empty words. Show me or shut up, this campaign is just a bunch of the same old brand of Kerry/Gore timid wrapped up in a new brand of toilet paper wrapper. Obama "steps up" his campaigning and I NEVER SEE AN OBAMA COMMERCIAL. I AM STILL WAITING. ALL I SEE IS REPUBLICAN TALKING POINTS.
I have seen several commercials for McCain in Missouri, what happened to the 50 state strategy? "I got this," don't make me cry I would say laugh but this is not funny. Obama just shut up and show up. I have given you quite a bit of money, we have placed our faith in you, and now we need to see you fight like there is no tomorrow because very soon there will literally be no tomorrow for your presidency. Fight like you want this nomination for a damn change. McSame attacks you then FIGHT THE HELL attack back. It may be silly time, but that is how the vast swaths of ignorant Americans decide on who to vote for. There is too much at stake for this gentlemanly crap and we are past the time for beautiful words. What is needed now is scathing criticism, and McSame looking like Bush every day in way that even a houseplant could understand.
Cravin @ 11:
Babar? He's already got a crown.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE STOP PANICKING. UNLESS HELL JUST FROZE OVER AND I'M UNAWARE, THEN THE TIMES THEY ARE A CHANGIN'. I JUST RECEIVED THIS FROM AN ACQUAINTANCE WHO IS THE STANCHIST FOX NEWS WATCHING, FOX NEWS QUOTING, KNUCKLE-DRAGGING REPUBLICAN I KNOW. I'M IN A COMPLETE STATE OF SHOCK:
I'm a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight.....
* If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're "exotic, different."
* Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, a quintessential American story.
* If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.
* Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.
* Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.
* Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well-rounded.
* If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate ' s Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran ' s Affairs committees, you don ' t have any real leadership experience.
* If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you're qualified to become the country's second highest ranking executive and next in line behind a man in his eighth decade.
* If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 daughters, all within Protestant churches, you ' re not a real Christian.
* If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and then left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a true Christian.
* If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.
* If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state ' s school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant, you're very responsible.
* If your wife is a Harvard graduate laywer who gave up a position in aprestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family values don't represent America's.
* If your husband is nicknamed "First Dude", with at least one DWI conviction and no college education, who didn't register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA , your family is extremely admirable.
OK, much clearer now.
---------------Now THOSE are some REPUBLICAN TALKING POINTS I can agree with!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CMINCA @ 127:
palin was a local sports broadcaster...and she sucked ass
used the word, "killed" 2 times in one broadcast
you never put killed in your copy
Yeah, well, I think the people have had enough. Let's wait and see what happens with the election. Ahem, somebody already burned down the house of the republican governor in Austin, Texas.
I say use McCains own words against him. When he said all the negative campaign ads could of been avoided by doing town hall meetings; that should be his downfall.
So if he is president and some leader of a nation decides he doesn't want to meet with him or if there is a disagreement in his cabinet or with members of senate or congress what is he going to do?
This statement from him should go right to the heart of who he is which is the same as Bush; don't mess with me and do what I want or else.
Can someone with a name like "Plouffe" really have any teeth?
A series of commercials with clips of McCain flipflopping and ended with the famous man hug with Bush photo. There is so much ammo that McCain himself has provided that this should be a cakewalk.
Also go after his policies on women to get back all the stupid females who are enamored with the 'hockey mom' who let's her kids get drunk and knocked up. This should be so easy.
Centrocitta @ 129:
Was he in it?
Let's just say I am very glad that Obama has finally picked up the gauntlet and decided to get a little down and dirty. No one can fault him. He tried to keep things fair and honorable. He tried to keep things decent.
But McCain and Palin are both uncouth people who were raised without any manners, tact or decency. Their manners as displayed in the public eye are just atrocious and reflective of the type of personalities they truly are. They have no nobility, erudition or grace about them. As a result, their horrible behavior will cause America to be pushed further off the world stage.
It is about time that Obama slaps on the brass knuckles to put them where they deserve to go--back to Hell where they belong. We don't need people like McCain and Palin in office. America can't take another undignified leader. It'll break us.
DD @ 131:
Drunk and knocked up are now American values.
So Obama has lunch with the Big Dog and suddenly he's ready to fight. Clinton knows how to fight the Repugs and Obama better heed Bill's words.
Uncle Joe Mccarthy @ 128:
For once in her life, Pam Anderson said something "of note":
"Sarah Palin can suck it!""
Yeah, Pam!
They really need to sharpen their stick. That add in response to McCain's "Sex ED for Kindergarten is a case in point. I would have said simply: Senator Obama voted for money to protect children from sexual predators. John McCain and the Republicans think that's sex ed for kids. What does that say about John McCain."
........132 Liberal and Proud says: Was he in it?.......
No, he wasn't. But I hear Hurricane Ike is heading his way.
Looks like the 527's are really stepping it up.
Here is an ad at HuffPo from The Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/12/brutal-ad-targets-palins_n_1259...
I don't know how much play this is going to get, but hopefully it hits the news cycle and gets repeated over and over again. This is pure win.
I say hit em below the belt. I'm still really angry at neocons accusing anybody who wasn't a neocon of being weak, of being immoral, of being pro-terrorist and anti-American and anti-family...
I say, enough's enough. hit em, and hit em hard. make the veins poke out of their foreheads. make them cry themselves at night. make the rest of the world laugh at them.
for example - I made this photochop - been spamming it all over the internets. I know its in poor taste. I don't care.
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p300/djburnt/ped4prez.jpg
Why don't I see anything here about a bunch of Palins who have been subpoenaed in troopergate?
Cold Cold Blooded Sarah!
Uh huh, sure he will, all I've seen him do today is run away from the "rape kit" story. A story which would decimate McCain's sexism charges. This idiotic strategy is now starting to drag down all the House races too. If you guys do not stop Typhoid Barry from destoying the whole party the world is going to end up with Mr&Mrs. "Lets Start a War with Russia". I mean who the hell is Obama working for? His campaign to elect McCain is really catching fire.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/110263/Battle-Congress-Suddenly-Looks-Competi...
JUST CURIOUS...what part of Russia can Sarah SEE from Alaska? From WHERE in Alaska? I know the people who will vote for The Warmonger and the Wingnut find that plausible...tell me, too, how often do you think Limpballs and Insannity et all ever say anything POSITIVE (and deferential) about Obama? or any Liberal for that matter...still left wing radio hosts and bloggers feel honor bent to preface comments with deferential crapola about GRAMPY and SCARAH constantly...frankly I'm sick to death of it...let it GO!!!!
hotmouth @ 142:
I see we think alike :)
The Planned Parenthood one is good too:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/12/plannet-parenthood-defend_n_125...
Uncle Joe Mccarthy @ 118:
of course not. it worked wonders for LBJ against goldwater. i've recommended this very thing in previous posts.
Hm, my comments seem to have problems posting. Last try for this one (Third try is a charm?)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/12/plannet-parenthood-defend_n_125...
Ad calling McCain a liar for his sex ed ad.
* If you're a minority and you're selected for a job over more qualified candidates you're a "token hire."
* If you're a conservative and you're selected for a job over more qualified candidates you're a "game changer."
* Black teen pregnancies? A "crisis" in black America .
* White teen pregnancies? A "blessed event."
* If you grow up in Hawaii you're "exotic."
* Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, you're the quintessential "American story."
* Similarly, if you name you kid Barack you're "unpatriotic."
* Name your kid Track, you're "colorful."
* If you're a Democrat and you make a VP pick without fully vetting the individual you're "reckless."
* A Republican who doesn't fully vet is a "maverick."
* If you spend 3 years as a community organizer growing your organization from a staff of 1 to 13 and your budget from $70,000 to $400,000, then become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new African Amerian voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law
professor, then spend nearly 8 more years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, becoming chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, then spend nearly 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of nearly 13 million people, sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you are woefully inexperienced.
* If you spend 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, then spend 20 months as the governor of a state with 650,000 people, then you've got the most executive experience of anyone on either ticket, are the Commander in Chief of the Alaska military and are well qualified to lead the nation should you be called upon to do so because your state is the closest state to Russia.
* If you are a Democratic male candidate who is popular with millions of people you are an "arrogant celebrity."
* If you are a popular Republican female candidate you are "energizing the base."
* If you are a younger male candidate who thinks for himself and makes his own decisions you are "presumptuous."
* If you are an older male candidate who makes last minute decisions you refuse to explain, you are a "shoot from the hip" maverick.
* If you are a candidate with a Harvard law degree you are "an elitist-out of touch" with the real America .
* if you are a legacy (dad and granddad were admirals) graduate of Annapolis , with multiple disciplinary infractions you are a hero.
* If you manage a multi-million dollar nationwide campaign, you are an "empty suit."
* If you are a part time mayor of a town of 7000 people, you are an "experienced executive."
* If you go to a south side Chicago church, your beliefs are "extremist."
* If you believe in creationism and don't believe global warming is man made, you are "strongly principled."
* If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a Christian.
* If you have been married to the same woman with whom you've been wed to for 19 years and raising 2 beautiful daughters with, you're "risky."
* If you're a black single mother of 4 who waits for 22 hours after her water breaks to seek medical attention, you're an irresponsible parent, endangering the life of your unborn child.
* But if you're a white married mother who waits 22 hours, you're spunky.
* If you're a 13-year-old Chelsea Clinton, the right-wing press calls you "First dog."
* If you're a 17-year old pregnant unwed daughter of a Republican, the right-wing press calls you "beautiful" and "courageous."
* If you kill an endangered species, you're an excellent hunter.
* If you have an abortion, you're a murderer (forget about if it happened while being raped.)
* If you teach abstinence only in sex education, you get teen parents.
* If you teach responsible age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.
* If you're a Republican senator who solicits gay sex in an airport bathroom, you get to return to your job in the Senate and are encouraged to run for re-election.
* If you're a Democratic Senator who is out of public office and have an affair, your political career is over and your wife who has terminal cancer is to blame.
Comments are closed on this entry