Meltdown!!!

Socialism for Fat Cats is going to be hard pressed to fill all the Fat Cat tin cups that are going to be in the waiting line.

Bushco has borrowed us into the poor house. They are not putting the Freddie and Fannie numbers in the budget because they are so ugly.

Don't forget; you're middle class all the way up to 5 mill!

McSame means the fundamentals for the rich are indeed sound. Pretty much what you would expect from someone who doesn't really know how many homes they own.

el matador, the fighting chicken @ 6:

I hate to break this to you guys, but i am beginning to realize that lipstick pitbull pig face and grandapa simpson are going to win!!! So it doesnt matter any more...

And how did you reach that conclusion?

This keeps on trucking, we're looking at 1929 again.

God save us from the trouble that a revival of fascism and Communism will bring....

Not bad, Barack.

Here's what should be on the walls in Obama's war room:

It's the economy, stupid.

John McCain is a liar, stupid.

The party that broke Washington will not fix Washington, stupid.

Obama: Judgment You Can Trust

If mcsame and pilen get elected we need to take up arms and empty washington!

My stocks are off 53% across the past year. Our IRAs have bled out tens of thousands of dollars in losses during the same period. I lost my job to a 10% staff RIF 18 months ago and remain out of work despite having filled out literally hundreds of employment applications. Notwithstanding John McCain's ostensibly "fundamentally strong" economy, I'm losing my shirts.

On the positive side, though, at least I still own more shirts than John McCain does houses.

BobbyG @ 17:

. . . . On the positive side, though, at least I still own more shirts than John McCain does houses.

We can't be sure. We'll have to check with McCain's staff about that.

this is the same old crap. obama needs to step it up!

Amalink @ 18:

my rethuglican boyfriend is sure that we're headed for a depression and yet he consistently makes fun of my and my "bleeding heart liberal" attitudes. But he did come up with the idea last night that if you are in office and make the economy worse your party should have to make up all the money you lost. And he is totally sick and tired of the Bush junta so maybe that old dog is learning something new. ow if he would just close the toilet seat when he's done.

Do you make sure he wipes.

Scott @ 22:

You know, I was thinking about this the other day, but, why hasn't the Obama camp mentioned the Keating 5? Have they been holding out for some sort of economic/banking scandal? It seems like now would be the time.

I think they're saving this in case the Republicans go nuclear. Seem to recall Howard Dean saying so.

How's the MSM treating this? After his "Slam Dunk" comment about Palin's speech at the RNC, I made a wise decision not to watch another minute of Wolf Blitzer.

For the past 2 weeks Obama has been losing the media war, badly. He needs to focus on McCain's weaknesses and start driving the narrative in the run-up to the debates.

18 Amalink Says: my rethuglican boyfriend is sure that we’re headed for a depression and yet he consistently makes fun of my and my “bleeding heart liberal” attitudes. But he did come up with the idea last night that if you are in office and make the economy worse your party should have to make up all the money you lost. And he is totally sick and tired of the Bush junta so maybe that old dog is learning something new. ow if he would just close the toilet seat when he’s done.

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Dump the boyfriend. He's mentally abusing you.

It turns out the real hurricane blew through Wall Street last week, not Galveston. Now all the hoopla surrounding Sarah Palin can be swept away revealing that group to be what they actually are. The party that wrecked America.

Commence the re-branding of the opposition right now. The Republicans must be clearly identified as, the party that wrecked America.

RobertD @ 25:

Scott @ 22:

You know, I was thinking about this the other day, but, why hasn't the Obama camp mentioned the Keating 5? Have they been holding out for some sort of economic/banking scandal? It seems like now would be the time.

I think they're saving this in case the Republicans go nuclear. Seem to recall Howard Dean saying so.

That's called playing defense. Why don't they go on the offensive and start launching some attacks. I don't see what the problem is... it's not like they have to make shit up to sink McCain and Palin. The Obama campaign have facts on their side, all they have to do is repeat those facts on the stump and in attack ads. Simple.

I'm tellin' ya, if I was David Axelrod, I would have destroyed McCain weeks ago. Romney would probably be the Republican nominee right now.

Loonie @ 32:

Karen @ 10:

el matador, the fighting chicken @ 6:

I hate to break this to you guys, but i am beginning to realize that lipstick pitbull pig face and grandapa simpson are going to win!!! So it doesnt matter any more...

Well, folks, that's it. Quit whatever you're doing. Might as well pack it in, and, for the next month and a half, party like there's no tomorrow.

After all, el matador, the fighting chicken has spoken.

Didn't look like much of a fighting chicken to me. Just an ordinary chicken.

Heh, there's a certain oxymoronic quality to the term "fighting chicken" that I think is weirdly appropriate here.

23 Ron Says: doubtfull he takes a dump with the seat up ron!

PorridgeGun @ 33:

RobertD @ 25:

Scott @ 22:

You know, I was thinking about this the other day, but, why hasn't the Obama camp mentioned the Keating 5? Have they been holding out for some sort of economic/banking scandal? It seems like now would be the time.

I think they're saving this in case the Republicans go nuclear. Seem to recall Howard Dean saying so.

That's called playing defense. Why don't they go on the offensive and start launching some attacks. I don't see what the problem is... it's not like they have to make shit up to sink McCain and Palin. The Obama campaign have facts on their side, all they have to do is repeat those facts on the stump and in attack ads. Simple.

I'm tellin' ya, if I was David Axelrod, I would have destroyed McCain weeks ago. Romney would probably be the Republican nominee right now.

I don't think the Keating 5 scandal is really a powerful card in our deck. If we're rightly worried about people's shaky understanding of "lobbyist," there's a lot more explaining to do with an historical scandal. (By the way, I don't much like stereotyping lobbyists, and making "lobbyist" equal "bad" either.)

If it were something that could just easily be associated with McCain and bad that people would really feel, I'd say go for it. But it's not easily digestible, and the Republicans will have too many talking heads to counter it with pseudo-intellectual gobbledygook, and no one will really know who's right and who's wrong.

I think Obama should stick with Broken Country, Broken Economy, They Broke It, I'll Fix It, You Can't Trust Him, You Can Trust Me.

Hate to say it, but Bill Clinton started the ball rolling. The current mortgage problem is the result of Bill Clinton's HUD allowing Fannie May and Freddie Mac to make loans to low-income borrowers who did not qualify for conventional loans, followed by George Bush encouraging lenders to employ predatory lending practices by making it known policy to not prosecute violators of the Predatory Lending Act. With carloads of money available to lend, banks and mortgage companies solicited anyone and everyone. Wall Street got caught up in the fracas when it became heavily vested in mortgage backed securities. It is all coming back to haunt.

From the Wall Street Journal, no less!

Did McCain economy gaffe prompt a correction?

Republican maintains conditions are 'fundamentally strong' despite meltdown

The Dow Jones closed up 335 points today from where it opened at on 22 January, 2001, Bush's first day in office.

The Nasdaq and S&P 500 are significantly below where they were at on 22 Jan 2001 and are unlikely to recover to those levels by the time Bush leaves office.

btw, this is a better clip, Obama actually delivers the line "... if you believe that about John McCain, then I've got a bridge up in Alaska to sell ya..."

~Nyc

Ed in Socal @ 41:

Hate to say it, but Bill Clinton started the ball rolling. The current mortgage problem is the result of Bill Clinton's HUD allowing Fannie May and Freddie Mac to make loans to low-income borrowers who did not qualify for conventional loans, followed by George Bush encouraging lenders to employ predatory lending practices by making it known policy to not prosecute violators of the Predatory Lending Act. With carloads of money available to lend, banks and mortgage companies solicited anyone and everyone. Wall Street got caught up in the fracas when it became heavily vested in mortgage backed securities. It is all coming back to haunt.

Bill Clinton is responsible for sure, but lest not forget that the deregulation über alles was made into sacrosanct policy by Raygun.

Karen @ 26:

Amalink @ 18:

my rethuglican boyfriend is sure that we're headed for a depression and yet he consistently makes fun of my and my "bleeding heart liberal" attitudes. But he did come up with the idea last night that if you are in office and make the economy worse your party should have to make up all the money you lost. And he is totally sick and tired of the Bush junta so maybe that old dog is learning something new. ow if he would just close the toilet seat when he's done.

It's amazing, isn't it? They have lots of meaningless catch-phrases like that, and not much else.

Here's a telephone conversation I imagine would happen repeatedly if we conducted a poll for statistics:

Caller: Do you believe that health care is essentially a right, and that all sick people should be properly treated?

Subject: Yes.

Caller: Do you believe that Social Security and Medicare are good programs that should be continued?

Subject: Yes.

Caller:</strong Do you believe that government should guarantee health care?

Subject: No

They don't make the connection between Medicare and the government.

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Amalink @ 18

You do get to choose your boyfriend don't you?

I put a sign thus: If you sprinkle when you tinkle, please be neat and wipe the seat.

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Now if they would learn to raise the seat in the first place. One must be patient.

Sven @ 50:

Its just a big misunderstanding....

See, when McBush said "the fundamentals", he just meant "the top 1%."

No shit... "Some people call you the elites; I call you my base." - GWB

31 L.A. Confidential Says: It turns out the real hurricane blew through Wall Street last week, not Galveston. Now all the hoopla surrounding Sarah Palin can be swept away revealing that group to be what they actually are. The party that wrecked America.

Commence the re-branding of the opposition right now. The Republicans must be clearly identified as, the party that wrecked America.
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Pirates Commandered The Ship Of State and Parked it On A Rock

They are THIEVES pure and simple ..

Alice X - (Chomsky Nader) - status quObama - change you can pretend in - @ 54:

proud demmie @ 52:

Here's the Matthews link:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/15/chris-matthews-battles-na_n_126657.html

John McHoover, the fundamentals are sound.

I have a bridge to nowhere I would like to sell you.

My apologies for the duplicate post, however, I posted this in an older thread related to these economic troubles.

It’s just unfortunate that the Protocols of the Elders of Zion has been discredited by the same elite it exposed.

Of course, as with a great deal of history, they scapegoated the Jews in their writing. The unfortunate thing is we’ve thrown out the baby with the bathwater. The Jews were never behind that diabolical plot whatsoever. It was always the rich European and American elite who sought to dominate the world by destroying the wealth of all those who were not part of the elite.

We do a disservice to ourselves by buying the line that it was a forgery and ignoring the fact that it is and has been a true outline of global domination all this time. I encourage everyone to read it, ignore the racist “Jewish vs Goyim” references and instead think in terms of “Elite vs Commoners”. In other words, while the original may have been proven a forgery, it has been followed nearly to the letter by the contemporary elite who have exploited our government and worked to destroy our nation and world.

The rich are waging war on the poor and middle class, and we are letting them win by our ignorance and apathy.

proud demmie @ 52:

Here's the Matthews link:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/15/chris-matthews-battles-na_n_126657.html

Very interesting to watch the whole thing.

Matthews is an ineffective interviewer, and his shows are shout-fest infotainment garbage. When he thinks he's right, whichever side he's on that day, that's that, and he'll yell and interrupt. That I might agree with him this time doesn't make him an effective journalist.

Pfotenfucker makes my blood boil, and she's probably so sadistic that she'd just love to know that. It's like she has a string in her back -- pulling it makes her smile widely, and whenever she stops speaking, someone behind her pulls it hard. She's got the gift of the gab, and if you're not paying attention can have a ring of truth for anyone yearning for a rationale to vote for McCain. I hate when my grotesque lies and spin are delivered with a smile.

And that Democratic spokeswoman, geez! Yet again, the Democrats find people who can't play the game. The answer to an interview's gift set-up, "They say you guys are going to raise taxes. Is that right?" [paraphrase] is NOT "Well, if you're in the top two percent, then we will raise, and the idea is to restore the taxes we had in the 90s." The answer is, "No, the Republicans, as usual are lying. We'll give a tax CUT to almost everyone!"

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Karen Says:

I don’t think the Keating 5 scandal is really a powerful card in our deck. If we’re rightly worried about people’s shaky understanding of “lobbyist,” there’s a lot more explaining to do with an historical scandal. (By the way, I don’t much like stereotyping lobbyists, and making “lobbyist” equal “bad” either.)
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I completely agree.

I'm 45, fairly aware politically, but I think it's a long reach into most peoples' memories. I doubt rehashing K5 will help swing the votes of my undecided working-class (former) drinking buddies.

My 68 year-old mother has heard of K5, but she's far more concerned about AIG losing 61% of its value in one day. Will she be able to make her mortgage payment now?

Tie Gramps to Shrub and let the line run.

Here's the thing. Republicans, when it comes to campaigning, are fantastic at remembering soundbites and repeating them over and over (2004: I voted for it before blah blah). If you've noticed, you don't hear about the "how many houses do you own" thing. Um, no. You should STILL be repeating that one. Over and over. Don't blow this current opportunity. Wide open. Do. Not. Blow. It.

Johnny2BadObamaIsntMuchBetter @ 62:

You think McCain's economic advisors are bad? (And yes, they are) check out Obama "Senior Economic Advisor" Jason Furman

Free trader, Walmart praising, SS privatization cheerleading, Robert Rubin protege who sat worked at the World Bank.

Here's how US News praised him: "Furman is no protectionist. He understands the benefits that open trade brings America, such as low-priced goods at Wal-Mart and the intense competition that leads to innovation."

"Change". Uh huh. Sure.

(Oh wait...Let me save you the keystrokes..."He's better than McCain.")

One picture is worth a thousand words, especially from you Johnny2ridiculous, and this picture says it all...

There are numerous campaign ads and speeches on the TV by the McCain campaign saying that Obama will raise your taxes and has raised taxes on people making as little as $42,000.

So what is the truth?

The Washington Post published a graphic from the non-partisan Center For Tax Policy that shows it quite clearly and you can see it at the link below or look at the graphic attached to this e-mail:

Obama and McCain Tax Proposals

According to a new analysis by the Tax Policy Center, a joint project of the Urban Institute and the Brookings Institution, Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain are both proposing tax plans that would result in cuts for most American families. Obama's plan gives the biggest cuts to those who make the least, while McCain would give the largest cuts to the very wealthy.

For the approximately 147,000 families that make up the top 0.1 percent of the income scale, the difference between the two plans is stark. While McCain offers a $269,364 tax cut, Obama would raise their taxes, on average, by $701,885 - a difference of nearly $1 million.

Obama and McCain Tax Proposals
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/06/09/ST20080609...

McPain's economic plan is "trickle down" and it has failed and given us the first "jobless recovery" in US economic history. Doing the same thing over and over is the definition of insanity!

Pfft.

You people just don't get it.

McCain doesn't need the facts to be on his side. You know why?

Because McCain has BIG BALLS.

And with balls as big as his, you can talk tough about any subject and always command a following of people... people who yearn to follow someone with BIG BALLS.

Nuff said.

... my apologies if my above comment was crude.

I don't know what came over me.

Karen @ 70:

Eric Hussein in Ottawa @ 67:

Pfft.

You people just don't get it.

McCain doesn't need the facts to be on his side. You know why?

Because McCain has BIG BALLS.

And with balls as big as his, you can talk tough about any subject and always command a following of people... people who yearn to follow someone with BIG BALLS.

Nuff said.

I now have the silliest image stream running through my head:

Obama is grilling McCain in the debates. Everyone knows Obama is winning, and should be president. Then the ACDC music starts to play, and McCain begins to sing. As do all of his supporters in the audience. Then the moderators join in. Then everyone collectively lifts McCain up high, and marches off with to the music.

Nice! Yes, I think you've captured my sentiment quite well.

NOW We're talking! Keep BLASTING him in the face with the truth. And don't pull a punch either. This is not the time to get pretty Senator Obama. It's well past time to use haymakers. AND DON"T STOP. In fact ESCALATE IT. Remember you're from the South Side of Chicago where we don't have elites, we have people who understand BLUNT FORCE TRAUMA

If I may add to #45 comments:

When Bill Clinton took office, the Dow was around 5500. When he left, it was around 10,600.

How can anyone try to hang this crap economy around Clinton's neck? Even if by some kind of twisted logic you could blame Clinton, how can anyone forget about Bush's "free market" policies? Or the passage of the bankruptcy bill which put more pressure on those facing it, and gave more power to increase the debt to credit card companies? When banks started this sub-prime lending, why didn't the Bush administration call for a halt? Because his posse was making huge amounts of profits, that's why!

That is a great speech. Wow, somebody who can use the English language.

To be honest, I was a little disappointed that that was the best he could come up with. McCain and the Cons were on the ropes, staggering and floundering and ready to be knocked out once and for all and all he comes up with is, "which economy are you talking about?" Really?

Oh man, we're in deeper trouble than I thought. Everyone, and I mean everyone, was beating up the Cons today and most of them were begging Obama to end McCon's campaign and he dropped the ball.

When will we have a Dem candidate that is willing to fight? People can blame McCon's rise in the polls on whatever they want but I put the blame on the Obama campaign. They have been fighting like little bitches when we need them to knock the shit out of the Cons. It's like Kerry, Mondale and Dukakis all over again.

Johnny2BadObamaIsntMuchBetter @ 68:

Rasputin @ 65:

Johnny2BadObamaIsntMuchBetter @ 62:

You think McCain's economic advisors are bad? (And yes, they are) check out Obama "Senior Economic Advisor" Jason Furman

Free trader, Walmart praising, SS privatization cheerleading, Robert Rubin protege who sat worked at the World Bank.

Here's how US News praised him: "Furman is no protectionist. He understands the benefits that open trade brings America, such as low-priced goods at Wal-Mart and the intense competition that leads to innovation."

"Change". Uh huh. Sure.

(Oh wait...Let me save you the keystrokes..."He's better than McCain.")

One picture is worth a thousand words, especially from you Johnny2ridiculous, and this picture says it all...

There are numerous campaign ads and speeches on the TV by the McCain campaign saying that Obama will raise your taxes and has raised taxes on people making as little as $42,000.

So what is the truth?

The Washington Post published a graphic from the non-partisan Center For Tax Policy that shows it quite clearly and you can see it at the link below or look at the graphic attached to this e-mail:

Obama and McCain Tax Proposals

According to a new analysis by the Tax Policy Center, a joint project of the Urban Institute and the Brookings Institution, Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain are both proposing tax plans that would result in cuts for most American families. Obama's plan gives the biggest cuts to those who make the least, while McCain would give the largest cuts to the very wealthy.

For the approximately 147,000 families that make up the top 0.1 percent of the income scale, the difference between the two plans is stark. While McCain offers a $269,364 tax cut, Obama would raise their taxes, on average, by $701,885 - a difference of nearly $1 million.

Obama and McCain Tax Proposals
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/06/09/ST20080609...

McPain's economic plan is "trickle down" and it has failed and given us the first "jobless recovery" in US economic history. Doing the same thing over and over is the definition of insanity!

I pretty sure my post had nothing to do with your very carefully executed bold laced reply but let me check again....

Yep, I was right. But thanks for the impressive non sequiturs.

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Well Johnny2stupid... I guess I'll have to spell it out for you.

You asserted that Obama's economice advisers Furman and Rubin were "free traders" and one had worked at the World bank and they are as bad as McCain's.

You went on to assert that there would be no significant change because they are the same in your opinion.

So I posted the comparison of Obama's and McCain's tax plans and as the Center for Tax Policy noted there is a world of difference between the two. McCain's Tax plan is the same old failed "Trickle Down" theory that concentrates the largest tax cut in the upper .01 percent of the population.

Obama's by comparison increases the taxes on the top .01% group and gives the largest cuts to the middle and working class.

The plans are the exact opposite of each other. So to blather on about how there will be no change should Obama win the election is a pretty stupid and vacuous argument, but worthy of an idiot like yourself.

I Honestly Doubt That You Can Handle The Proof...
by The Old Hippie Because You Still Aren’t Stopping Them, Still “Allowing.”

The following links are articles of proof.  Proof that the successful transfer of the control-of-the-control of the wealth of this nation into the hands of the very few has destroyed this nation’s economic security, and ripped the Constitution and Bill of Rights to almost insignificance.  While at the same time making sure that their stolen wealth is protected from being taken back by the masses, and that their very-very few will be physically protected, by the stolen wealth, from the coming horrors of the multiple resource wars.  i.e. energy, water, and food, and from the coming environmental destructions of billions of lives.

[The links are in no particular order, as they are of equal significance.]

The Pentagon Strangles Our Economy: Why the U.S. Has Gone Broke
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The Myths and Harsh Effects of Bush's Economic Class War
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A Crude Awakening - The Oil Crash
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We Must Imagine a Life Without Oil
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Global Famine? Blame the Fed
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Die-offs: The Biggest News That Isn't News
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Hunger in America - Help US
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Global Famine: The Lords of Capital Decree Mass Death by Starvation
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Food Riots Erupt Worldwide
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Is This the Beginning of Water Wars?
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Water Wars: Drought, Flood, Folly and the Politics of Thirst
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The Reality-Based Realities of Global Warming
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“Zeitgeist - The Movie”
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False Pretenses - The War Card: Orchestrated Deception
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The Real Elitists Work in Mainstream Media

Bush Actually Did Say It...  (And You Did “Allow” The-Very-Few To Prove It.)

“Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,
It's just a goddamned piece of paper!”

George W. Bush

[For those who doubt he actually said it - Here is the quote’s verification link.]

i wouldn't trust john mccain with my checkbook, my finances, my household budget, my grocery list, my dirty laundry, my compost container...

jaja @ 84:

i wouldn't trust john mccain with my checkbook, my finances, my household budget, my grocery list, my dirty laundry, my compost container...

You left out your fighter plane

I actually hate this line of attack from Obama. I don't know whether it will be effective or not, but I don't really believe it's true.

I don't think it's a question of McCain simply not knowing. I think the reason he doesn't know a lot of things is the same reason Bush doesn't know so many things -- THEY DON'T CARE.

Ask yourself which is worse, a president who is ignorant or a president who is uninformed because he doesn't care. (Both are inexcusable and dangerous.)

Admittedly, there is a growing mountain of evidence that McCain is stupid -- stupid as in doesn't know because it's too complicated for a doddering old fool with a sub-par IQ to understand. Of course, Obama can't say that publicly. But on issues involving rich/poor, elites/masses, corporations/citizens, McCain is as informed as he needs to be to serve the needs of his real constituencies.

I think Obama is wasting his time and ours reassuring Americans that McCain cares. He doesn't need to openly state that McCain doesn't care, he can illustrate by use of examples and let people draw their own conclusions -- sure, sure, most people are incapable of that but so what, every tactic doesn't have to reach every voter or even try to do so.

Rusty Shackleford @ 85:

Rif @ 80:

All the big brains who run the Obama camp, how come the only decent quips are on the message boards? Can't they at least borrow a few?

Yeah. The Daily Show does it all the time.

You noticed that too?
I thought I was imagining things. Whew!

McCain & The GOP Broke The Financial System

Now The Taxpayer Pays the price.. How about handing over your Social Security to Wall Street?

Gramm-Leach-Bliley Financial Services Modernization Act.

53 Republican Senators plus one Democrat - AYE

44 Democrats no Republicans - NAY

Economist Robert Kuttner has criticized the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act as contributing to the 2007 subprime mortgage financial crisis. Economists Robert Ekelund and Mark Thornton have made similar criticisms, arguing that while "in a world regulated by a gold standard, 100% reserve banking, and no FDIC deposit insurance" the Financial Services Modernization Act would have made "perfect sense" as a legitimate act of deregulation, under the present fiat monetary system it "amounts to corporate welfare for financial institutions and a moral hazard that will make taxpayers pay dearly".

"John McCain voted FOR the bank laws that led to the current credit crisis. John Mccain's economic advisor WROTE the law. 53 Republicans voted YES to the law. When you're in danger of losing your house, can you take a chance on more of the same from those who wrecked out economy?"

How Did Your Senator Vote?

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm...

Oil companies are posting record profits and some people are paying lower taxes. That's progress to McCain.

If the CONJOBS weren't so scared out of their SKULLS, ya think this place would be crawling with trolls????

USE IT..........THEY ARE SCARED TO DEATH TO LOSE THEIR POWER. They won't be able to GET RICH FROM FLEECING THE FEDERAL RESERVE, AND OUR TAX MONEY, now, will they, if they LOSE????

IGNORE 100% OF THE TIME, AND THEY GOT NOTHING.

Power to the PEACEFUL.

You may not be able to pretty a pig up with lipstick...then again...You can't polish a turd. Ooops will I get in trouble for that? A turd and BO? hmmmm? This asshole is a socialist POS. There's a common sense revolution coming boyzzz and you lefties are in the crosshairs.

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