McCain's Family Doesn't Even Recognize Him
By Nicole Belle Monday Sep 15, 2008 3:00pm
Even his own family is coming out and remarking on the 180° turn from the Straight Talkin' Maverick to the craven, say anything, do anything, pander to all politician desperately taking his last covetous bid at the White House. Ouch.
John and I are related through our grandmothers. Katherine Vaulx McCain and Huetta Vaulx Boles, both of Fayetteville, Ark., were sisters. My side of the Vaulx family represents a long line of Democrats, but it is with no small amount of pride that we've followed the life and career of now-Sen. John McCain.[..]
Although neither my father nor I have ever voted for a Republican, when John threw his hat in the ring in 2000, we were both very proud and encouraged, and not just because he's our relative. This was the first Republican who, on a national stage, was saying things like, "If we repeal Roe vs. Wade tomorrow, thousands of young American women will be performing illegal and dangerous operations," and, "Neither party should be defined by pandering to the outer-reaches of American politics and the agents of intolerance." Wow!
Here was a man who was not abiding by partisan lines, who was, instead, living up to his promise of "straight talk" and commonsense thinking. The right-wing Republican base may not have agreed with everything he said, but the rest of America certainly respected him for speaking his mind honestly.
Jump ahead to the campaign Sen. McCain is currently running. Clearly, a lot can change in eight years. Our nation has gone from a time of unparalleled prosperity and peace to one marked by debt in the trillions of dollars, record foreclosures, and a global reputation for warmongering and neo-imperialism.
So, where is the straight-talking, commonsense John McCain of 2000? I'm afraid he is long gone, replaced by a desperate version of himself who seems to contradict nearly everything he once stood for.
What becomes apparent in his ideological about-face is just how out of touch McCain really is with America's working families. [..]
But, as he continually demonstrates in this campaign, my cousin John is long gone. "Straight talk" has been replaced with "flip-flop." Saddest all, this is the same man who, when campaigning in 2000, told a crowd of supporters, "I don't think Bill Gates needs a tax cut. I think your parents do."
My parents, John, need some help after the economic destruction Bush has wrought in the last eight years, but it's clear you're not the one who'll give it to us. America's working families no longer recognize you, nor does your own.
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FOIST!
Well well well....
John McCain...you have truly sold yourself out...to the lowest. common. denominator.
How's that feel?
Ouch, that was some painful truth right there.
Wow.
but, will the Trad Media mention it? Because, if they do, it means that they must reconsider their positions on "The Maverick", as well.
Yeah, McCain has fallen. He used to be pretty sly in his grasping for power. Now it's just sad.
Don't worry, he still has Cindy and all her gazzilions.
OUCH
talk about a flaming cactus right up your posterior!
John McCain was a POW.
And he still is.
Save John McCain from himself. Vote for Obama.
mcfuckhead and s pooplint will give us
four more years of bush and worse.........
s pooplint is the female version of cheney
with hanging ovaries for balls.
SoCalLib @ 4:
I think media might just pass on it. Because as the guy says, he's a democrat. His opinion is pretty representative (albeit well-expressed) of very many democrats who formerly had respect for McCain.
Apart from the guy being McCain's cousin.. I found it kind of unremarkable.
If he and the Republicans win, they lost. Conservatism is dead.
Bush and Rove killed it and took the Maverick down with them.
And to think I actually liked the guy back in 2000.
Cindy McCain Admits Husband is Guilty of ‘Dishonorable Discharge’
Wow, that's tough. But then again, John McCain's record with his family relationships is not very good.
Fuckin' ouch.
I used to make (poor taste) jokes about McCain being the Manchurian Candidate, but wtf? I'm actually starting to believe it's true
Wow... the apple does not fall far from the tree.
Them McCains just like rats jumping off a sinking ship.
I get a kick about everyone who is trying to deal as if this guy was an upright citizen and only recently started veering from the path of righteousness.
I think the "Straight Talk Express" has gotten a cattle car attached to it, because they sure are hauling a lot of bull these days.
In a way -- but not much -- I feel sorry for this sick, feeble, bitter old man.
He really belongs in a retirement home. Or seven of them.
When a person sells his or her soul to the devil, it will change a lot about them. It seems to me that McCain is willing to abandon all his principles in order to attain his fondest goal. He doesn't seem to realize that it was those principles that were his greatest assets.
Doesn't matter, the white voters in America sees this election as between McCain and that n****r. Seen an electoral college map recently? It's like the Civil War is still being fought.
Incoming mcstain campaign/reslug neocon smear job in 3.. 2..
So well said.
I say "old" advisedly. Old in his attitudes, outlook, etc.
Chronologically, not that old.
I recently edited a story about a 99-year-old therapist who's as sharp and vigorous as ever. A lot of it is in the head -- and the heart.
McCain got PWNT.
TIME FOR A DIVERSION
FOX NEWS FLASH: BRITNEY SPEARS JUST HAD A BOWEL MOVEMENT!
mccain has undergone this 'makeover' in order to
appeal to his party, the republicans. not to be confused
with conservatives.
mccain couldn't beat g.w BUSH in 2000 ,now he has all
the answers. we're suppose to trust the republicans
who gave us BUSH. now they want to give us mccain
who couldn't beat a weak texas governor in 2000.
mccain is being temporarily transfomed for marketing purposes to win this election, as is palin.i'm not sure
which mccain we're going to get if he gets into he white house.
personally, i have a feeling mccain isn't comfortable
with this makeover and i don't believe he's having fun.
I think what you are seeing now is the REAL McCain--
McCain spokeswhore on CNN now defending Palin's refusal to cooperate with the troopergate investigation. The lame-ass excuse they're giving is that two senators on that committee are "Obama supporters" and the investigation is a "partisan affair directed by Democrats who support Obama".
He's talking a mile a minute but spewing nothing but gas. Even Sanchez, who's an idiot, is seeing through this and half laughing through the interview.
OMG, this guy couldn't give a straight answer to save his miserable weasel life.
BFD - the MSM will ignore this
iTS OBVIOUS mCCAIN JUSTS WANT TO WIN AND WOULD SELL HIS SOUL TO THE DEVIL TO DO IT. ONE OF HIS CAMPAIGN GUYS SAID ON CABLE MONDAY, "IF WE CAN'T WIN PRETTY, WE'LL WIN UGLY" AND SO THEY ARE OUT THERE THROWING OUT THE UGLY FASTER THAN THE DEMS CAN REPLY( BUT SHOULD THEY EVEN TRY) OR JUST KEEP COMPARING "GEEZER" WITH dUFUS AND MORE OF THE SAME. THOSE SNEAKY, BACK STABBING REPUBLICANS CAN SURE RUN A CAMPAIGN (OR IS IT RUIN) but they can't govern worth a damn!
Thanksgiving should be interesting this year. We always spend it with my husband's family. All of them are, as they say, "good Republicans" except one brother and his significant other. So basically there are about 25 conservatives at the table and four lonely liberals. If Obama wins the election I doubt we will hear much about it, but if McCain wins, jesus, that's all we will hear about. Palin will probably be the topic of conversation if McCain wins. I can just see all the women with their new Palin hair dos. The men will be talking about what a strong macho woman she is regarding her huntin' and killin' abilities. Four people at the table main come down with a case of food poisoning just to escape.
Wow. To be dissed by KKKarl Rove and your own cousin in the same week, ouch!
Like another poster said, I don't think he's changed so much (well, maybe a little nuttier) as much as he has been exposed as a typical republican. Maverick my ass!
Gretchen the aspiring elitist @ 28:
Contrast to:
In case anyone missed my "USA is now Italy" post the other day.. :)
At least he doesn't hide em in an apartment and doesn't allow them to talk to the press. Or stick em in a shack in a foreign country afraid them might spill the truth about his so called citizenship.
displaced @ 20:
It is.
A lot of closet biggots are being exposed.
Gretchen the aspiring elitist @ 28:
Marge @ 34:
Hey everyone, Marge is here!
Hi Marge, how ya been?
Oh, my dear God.............a person of INTEGRITY. A true patriot, who is willing to really put Country First.
Look for more of the LIGHT AND TRUTH TO COME OUT...............NEVER, EVER, LOSE THE FAITH.
Power to the PEACEFUL~
Im beginning to wonder if McCain will last until the actual election. The campain is taking too many hita and too many scandals keep coming up.
I wonder what his medical files really says.
oh snap.........a dem talking head (can't see TV from here, just hear it) is starting the meme, "just think what would be happening now if GWB and McCain had give Wall Streeet your social security dollars"......thank fringgin god.........hammer it.......hammer it........hammer it
Bitter Bud Hussein @ 29:
Bitter....its the CM (Corporate Media)...there's absolutely nothing 'mainstream' about dividend collectors & pool boy prankster multi-CEOs private jet setting around the world being in charge of the Big 5 Media companies (controlling everything you see & hear - outside of the 'Internets' of course)....
Don't use the right wingnut noise machine's frame.... MSM doesn't exist, except on the Internet....its a CM, Corporate Media
sorry should be "given" not give.....I did not go to school in Alaska
The wheels are coming off McCain's campaign. They would have loved to talk about pigs and and non-issues. Now they are force to talk straight. And guess what? They HAVE no answers. The crash yesterday threw a wrench in their plans. And now Palin and McCain are stuck. Add in Palin's refusal to testify and I smell an on-coming disater. The MSM is in Alaska digging up every little detail because McCain and Palin have refused to answer the basic of questions. Grab some popcorn, it's getting interesting.
pissed off patricia @ 31:
Don't go. And next year have them all come to your house and serve them crow.
Jo @ 44:
we might all be in bread lines by Thanksgiving.......if not, I will truly be thankful
pissed@31, I too, find Thanksgiving lonely. For years my husband and I have been laughed at or berated(depends on how you look at it). I think I'll have a sudden case of explosive diarrhea or something this holiday, regardless who wins.
McCain's honesty is largely a myth. Most of his straight talk was just pandering to a different group. I think what we're seeing now is the real John McCain.
“If we repeal Roe vs. Wade tomorrow, thousands of young American women will be performing illegal and dangerous operations,” and, “Neither party should be defined by pandering to the outer-reaches of American politics and the agents of intolerance.”
Now THAT is the John McCain that Democrats knew and loved. THAT is what a maverick in the GOP sounds like.
Whatever happened to that guy?
Obama/Biden 08!
I want to be at that Thanksgiving dinner.
Question:
If McCain died before the election what is the protocol for picking a candidate? I'm asking because he doesn't look so good.
Is there anyone here who can answer this?
pissed off patricia @ 31:
That sounds like thanksgiving at my wife's.
Except that we haven't been invited back ever since the "incident."
The ironic part is that my FIL has been laid off for a while, and since he had the economic insight of the typical republican i.e. none, my wife and I have been supporting our in-laws for a while. So this year, I am sure, we will be the ones paying for a massive feast (20+ people) and we will not be invited.
I learned long ago that "self reliance and personal responsibility" for a right winger meant not having to say "Thank you" when someone helps you.
it's time to use this You Tube in ads. mccain lying about knowing the economy. just recently saying the economy
fundamentally strong. then he comes out a few hours later it's and says it's in crisis.....this is the gem that keeps giving.
40 sec. video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OunCv-7qvA
Marge seems a bit ... uh ... uh ... different.
P.D. @ 46:
I am the total black sheep in that family gathering. I'm not religious and I don't spend the day in the kitchen talking "woman talk". Then there was the year that I dropped food on the table cloth and without thinking, dropped the "F" bomb. I did everything but cut my wrist to tell them how sorry I was.
Mostly they just look at me like I'm an alien and pretty much avoid talking to me. If my husband's gay brother and his life pal didn't bring wine to for dinner, I'm not sure I could take it. My husband always reminds me if I can make it through the whole event, he will make me the coldest martini in the world once we get back to the hotel.
Jo @ 50:
I don't think the founding fathers expected the American populace to be so stupid as to nominate a candidate for the presidency who is in his dying throes.
But now that you ask, I would be interested as well. Does the ticket go unchanged after a specific cut off date? I know that is the case with senator seats. I think that is what happened when John Asscroft ran in Missouri (maybe I don't have the state correct) when he had to run against a candidate who had been recently deceased. And the dead guy won... which was really telling.
Watch for commentators like Limbaugh, Hannity etc. to smear McCain's family. Honestly, would you expect nothing less?
BigIslandDave @ 53:
Marge is just a little shy today. Don't worry, she's still ready to rock and roll when it comes to bashing Obama.
Waaaaay OT.
But...it appears that FEMA doesn't want any pesky news helicopters flyin over certain areas of the Texas coast for some reason.
http://snipurl.com/3qhjh
Tyler Durden @ 51:
Well, I am dying to know what the "incident" is. I am always thankful that my dinosaur riding evangelical in laws live on the opposite side of the country. Perfectly nice people, but glad we don't have to do a lot of group holidays.
Marge @ 34:
Yeah Maggie - Crankshaft only hides his VP picks because he thinks she'll get "roughed up" by mean old Charlie Gibson.
Jeezus - grow a brain stem already, will you?
That is a pretty sad picture when your own family doesn't recognize you John McCain
You became a bitter little old man who will do anything and say anything to get the Presidency no matter what.
You lost the respect of many.
James Galbraith: Professor of Government and Economics, University of Texas at Austin: "The phrase the economy is essentially sound is only uttered by a politician when it is simply not true . . . if the economy were sound, we would not be having the financial crises we are having; we would not have the crisis in the housing market."
http://www.kcrw.com/news/programs/tp/tp080916its_the_economy_stup
(The discussion on the economy starts around 30 or 40 minutes in)
pissed@54, My mother(the religious zealot) always finds an excuse to make me feel guilty. My oldest had a baby at 16, we are not religious and don't attend church. I have stopped going to my mothers for years now, Now I have traded my crazy parents for my husbands. Not only are they boring, they watch Faux News and think it's Scripture. Either way I'm screwed. I think that's why I always get buzzed on Thanksgiving.
pissed off patricia @ 31:
Come on up to PA, POP - the weather is great and the conversation and the alcohol are better. You and yours have an open invite at my family's table! :)
Fanon @ 59:
Yeah, I want to know about the incident too, sounds like something that might come in handy for me to try.
pissed off patricia @ 65:
Come on Tyler...spill it!!!
Ok, I know this is OT and weird. Please forgive, I have a two year old and we are watching Arthur. Even the character's on this cartoon know when czheckoslovakia stopped being a country.
Bitter Bud Hussein @ 64:
Oh aren't you the sweetest thing. I love the invitation and beware, I just might take you up on it.
I lived in PA for several years. For a while in Media and then another little town the name of which I can't remember but it was just outside of Philly. There were lots of well kept old homes and I loved the area.
9/11 commission for Wall Street?
Today, John McCain said,
"Wall Street has betrayed us. They've broken the social contract between capitalism and the average citizen and the worker. And workers are paying a very heavy price while a lot of them are not only emerging unscathed but some of them are left with packages of a hundred million dollars or so.
This is a result of excess and greed and corruption. And that's exactly what is plaguing Americans today. And we got to fix it and we've got to update our regulatory system.
We have to have a 9/11 commission to find out what went wrong and to fix what's going to happen in the future so this never ever happens again. And as president, I guarantee you, it will never happen again."
"The first thing you do is you address this issue of the alphabet soup of regulatory agencies. It was designed for the 1930s. Now we have an instantaneous financial system that's global in nature and it's not compartmentalized. Look at the Stock Exchange today as to what it was even 20 or 30 years ago. So you've got to fix that and also, very frankly, people were asleep at the switch. I don't think there's any doubt about that."
John McCain's contention is that Wall Street has, for years, been rotting in a toxic mixture of greed and overreach and corruption. Simultaneously, a 70-year-old regulatory structure has proven inadequate at checking the institution's excesses. This is, in other words, a crisis composed of trends, rather than a singular, unpredictable, catastrophe.
Three years ago, John McCain signed on to George W. Bush's efforts to privatize Social Security.
He surveyed Wall Street and decided that it was a stable enough institution to entrust with the nation's pension funds. Three years ago.
And this wasn't just an attempt to cozy up to Bush: McCain was arguing for privatization in 1999.
So McCain's argument is that Wall Street is built atop an unstable regulatory foundation and is shot through with most of the seven deadly sins. That the situation has been allowed to fester so long is evidence that "people were asleep at the switch."
Even so, McCain has consistently argued that much of Social Security should be turned over to...Wall Street.
Either he wanted to tank the nation's pensions funds or he was one of the people asleep at the switch.
But those are really the only two options here.
From Ezra Klein
Bitter Bud Hussein @ 64:
You can all come down to the keys for turkey day...we rarely have turkey...usually lobster, shrimp, and stuff like that...oh...and drinkin and talkin politics and religion are encouraged at my house!
OT but important to me RNC being opportunistic
Bob Bauer, general counsel for the Obama campaign, and Mark Brewer, chairman of the Michigan Democratic Party, announced the lawsuit in a conference call with reporters this afternoon. It was filed on behalf of the campaign, the party and three Michigan residents who have had their houses foreclosed upon in recent months.
Bauer called the GOP plan to use foreclosure lists "a new and especially repellent version of caging." Caging is a technique of challenging voters where they take lists of addresses, mail to them with a "do not forward" marking and if for whatever reason those mailings are returned, they use this as a basis for claiming that the voter no longer lives at the address at which they are registered.
pissed off patricia @ 68:
I remember the other town now, it was Rutledge.
Obviously they are not, nor will they ever be "kissing cousins." I wonder if the MSM will pick this up?
Um. No. No, they won't.
liberalNmoderation @ 70:
You better be careful. I'm a whole lot closer to you than I am to PA. I could be at your front door in less than five hours depending on which Key you live on.
Tyler Durden @ 55:
At some point it is too late to reprint ballots and reprogram voting machines. And if EVERY county in the country had to reorder, the ballot companies would be overwhelmed.
if mccain wins, the first thing religious right crazies will do is head for church and pray that he dies so the female version of george bush can take over.
coach john mccain: " even though we've lost 50 games in a row, we are still fundamentally strong."
Kerry @ 75:
Kerry @ 75:
Sorry, I stepped on lines.
So, if the "dead guy" won, would we be looking at a Palin prez.? McSame had better watch his back!
pissed off patricia @ 74:
I ain't skeert!
I'd love to have you and your husband here for turkey day...but Bitter Bud Hussein did ask ya first. ;)
And fall in the keys is nice indeed.
Jo @ 77:
I'm not sure what the precedent would be...but she wasn't nominated by any process whatsoever...she was picked, appointed if you will...
I don't think it would be fair, or even legal (I know, like the they care about that) to let her run for president when she was not nominated as the Republican Presidential Candidate.
From Mary Mitchell from the Chicago Suntimes:
so true.
Re comments here about closet bigots coming out supporting McCain.\\
We knew it would happen; it's just happening about 5 weeks sooner than expected. For the Republicans, desperate times require desperate measures (and it seems they're always in desperate times, doesn't it?) . Up until now those bigots thought lies and dirty campaign policies in general would win the election for McCain and they wouldn't have to declare themselves until they were in the booth pulling the lever.
But they're streaming out of the woodwork now, wood dust in their little maws, ready to take down the uppity "other" before he gets a foothold in the WHITE House.
StirFry @ 80:
If Obama's new wife was a blonde white beer distributer heiress, maybe. Nawwww!
Fanon @ 59:
I have dual citizenship because I come from a mixed household. At some point my wife decided that if we have kids, that she wants to move back to the old world for a few years. We have compared our growing experiences, and frankly the difference in quality of nurturing environment between hers and mine is astounding. So she decided to try to expose our kids to part of my experience, to which I agree...
Upon learning this, my mother flipped out and things went downhill from there on... Ignorant and xenophobic don't even begin to capture her rantings regarding the possibility that one of her precious grandkids may be exposed to an "European" childhood.
sorry, it was my mother in law... not my real mother.
McSame has in affect sold his sole to the devil to become president. The irony is if he had just remained the "maverick" he used to be he would probably be elected in a landslide.
Tyler Durden @ 83:
Dude...my heart goes out to you....that's rough.
Spickle @ 69:
so mcdoofus had gramm on his campaign and he still doesnt know what went wrong with the markets?
did mcoldfart read the bills that gramm pushed through that ripped the heart out of new deal protections and led to our economic collapse? guess not
he cant read, he was a pow
we dont need a commission...what we need is to put back into place what worked
Gretchen the aspiring elitist @ 28:
its a bipartisan committee
and guess what, the republicans in the statehouse dont want to derail the investigation
cuz more than a few are pretty ticked at being told what to do by the mccain campaign
liberalNmoderation @ 86:
constituent @ 26:
The Rethug Party is responsible for turning "The Maverick" into a glue-factory standby.
Uncle Joe Mccarthy @ 88:
It's a bipartisan committee that started in July. Before anyone on the rest of the planet, let alone the lower 28 knew who she was. It's just pure garbage that she is refusing to answer.
liberalNmoderation @ 58:
My guess is that big land developers are also flying over the area now, photographing the damage so that they can be the first in line for the redevelopment dollars. Look for Galveston to go from Houston's sleepy little neighbor to a big condo boom town, much like coastal Mississippi after Katrina.
Just guessin',,,
liberalNmoderation @ 86:
Nah, the way I see it I am not the one with a problem. The only thing that scares me, is that my mil represents a sector of this population which I want to believe is very very very rare... even though I am simply trying to deceive myself into believing that this country could not possibly have devolved *that* much.
If anything it makes me appreciate my wife even more, the fact that she was able to grow up in such an environment to be come such a caring and open-minded beautiful soul.
We're, however, seriously pondering what to do in case that McCain gets elected. Life is too short to bear another 4 years of this clusterfuck. And I guess we are both blessed to have jobs which are in high demand across the globe. Honestly, as an educated man... it is painful to me to see how the intellectual core of this country, it is literally dying out. Seeing all these christian radicalism not only reviving but getting way too much traction scares the shit out of me.
My father left the US to be with my mum long ago, he always claimed that after traveling all over the world, that for him.. the American dream was either dead or the biggest exercise in mind control ever carried out. He is a big time hippie, so I always laughed him off... once I became and adult and aware I started to take him more seriously.
Ok, Johnny Walnuts! Let loose your scumbag attack dogs on your own family! RUIN THEM, WITHOUT MERCY! Your integrity is already in the toilet, so don't hold back NOW! Go, boy, go!
P.D. @ 46:
Ah, Thanksgiving with my family in Georgia. If it makes you feel better, of the more than 10 of us gathering, 6 have military service. Unlike the others, all 6 of are voting for Obama . Three other are leaning toward Obama because either they can't find work or have to work two jobs. The last two, well, someday, when they are buried, they will have their GOP sticker on their chests.
John McCain is George Bush. You all remember George Bush -- everything he has ever touched has turned to ashes. And, now that he has burned down the United States, he will sneak out the back door and go on to his next shady deal. Do these kinds of people ever get what they deserve? Life is so unfair.
The man has become a pathetic embarrassment.
Barbara @ 95:
Or some sort of GOP slogan magnet on their coffins?
(sorry, the only people who should make those sorts of jokes about family is more family, but I jumped in anyway. My bad!)
Anyway, YES your family does make me feel better. Thanks for sharing.
Barbara @ 95:
That sounds great - I know some military folks here who are voting for Obama. Most, in fact. I think the numbers are much higher than we are led to believe.
We've given up on holidays. Mr. G and I have used the out-of-town excuse and, I hate to admit, have led my family to believe we were spending Thanksgiving with his family. We drove to the nearest city and got a hotel room instead and ate at our favorite Italian place. My family isn't conservative, exactly, but they are non-voters and will not consider voting under any circumstances out of no other reason than pure ignorance. Both of my parents are convinced the elections are already "decided" because of all the MSM coverage projecting outcomes... therefore are positive that their votes don't "count". The last time my mother complained about Bush I told her she had no right to complain since by staying home she helped put him in office. Needless to say, it has been rather frosty since. And, to top it off, we don't observe Christmas or Easter. My church doesn't celebrate either and Mr. G is Jewish so we observe the Jewish holidays. My family has made it clear they consider this "un-American". We do invite them for Passover every year with no success. I've decided if we ever do have to go to a family dinner again I'm gonna get drunk for the occasion. Just like I do every 4 years when I watch the RNC.
shaggles @ 47:
You are spot on.
The McCain of 2000 was a fraud and I fell for it too.
Radically Moderate @ 100:
Exactly, It pisses me off that they are now trying to save face... as if this guy had not been a crook since way back.
Keating Five, HELLO????
Amazing what being capture by the enemy will allow you to get away with it.
pissed off patricia @ 19:
I agree with you 100%. Truth told with eloquence.
Could it be that John McCain wants to lose this campaign?
not just lose, but lose spectacularly.
completely crush the conservative movement in the GOP.
it's a big risk.
he's doing things so badly, that it's becoming easy to find the lies.
no fakey this, no fakey that. complete and utter bull.
his book, and I read it and accepted his changed story form ne'er do well to committed eqalitarian.
It's so bad, and his lies so blatant, that I'm beginning that Tweety is on to something.
he wants to lose, and big.
of course, I could be wrong, and I do want him to lose as bad as I think he wants us to make him lose.
but his colossal loss, could be the key to reform of the GOP.
no one could possibly be doing this because he thinks he going to win.
Tyler Durden @ 51:
Its kind of you to support your FIL who sounds like one ungrateful bastard! But if you arent invited to the "feast" DONT PAY FOR IT! Paying for basic stuff is good but paying for a big Thanksgiving feast when youre not invited is just too altruistic for most people to comprehend. Please dont do it! Let the invited relatives pitch in and pay for their own dinner.
Gretchen the aspiring elitist @ 100:
Too bad your family won't go for Passover. When we lived in Maryland, our next door neighbors (and best friends ) were Jewish. Every December, they invited us over for Passover. Oh, I still remember the taste of the fried potato pancakes.
About a week before Christmas, we invited their children over to help decorate the Christmas tree.
Two of my favorite pictures come from that time. One, Saul is handing our son, Kris, a Christmas tree ornament. In the other picture, I caught the reflection of Saul and Kris in the glass window has they are lighting the candle on the Mennorah.
Good days.
JOHN JOHN....
WHERE'S YOUR BRAIN GONE ?
THE STRAIGHT TALK EXPRESS
HAS BECOME A BIG MESS
AND YOU'VE BECOME A REPUBLICAN PAWN
Rosanne @ 105:
We are not paying directly for the feast, of that I am sure, but I am certain that they will use the "allowance" they get to fee their guests.
I love my wife very much, and she did not get to chose her parents. So we will have to support them for the foreseeable future. My father in law is too old to get a decent job at his age, and he got royally screwed with his severance package.
And most of my wife's siblings, although pretty well off, seem to have almost zero preparedness to deal with a rainy day.
We worked very hard to be in a stable and financially secure position. And part of being a bleeding heart liberal is that: to have a heart.
The sad part is that my in laws will most likely not change an iota in their mentalities, which saddens me.
Alas, not having to deal with the right wing dinner feast any more is a big plus for me.
McCain is being hit by his family, Karl Rove, and just about everybody now. Isn't it strange that he keeps gaining in the polls and in the electoral votes?
We have a candidate in Obama who I believe will surprise everyone . I trly believe he will be an excellent president and I already feel sorry for him. What a mess he would inherit.
Joe Biden is gaining in popularity too. He has a way with words and a good sense of humor. The more I see of him the better I like him.
Now, if the next poll does not show Obama moving ahead of McCain , then I will suspect that something is very wrong.
Obama has tried to stick to the issues, and looked and acted presidential and draws crowds by the thousands. He sets records in the amount of money that is donated to him, and his speeches are electrifying and interesting. Why no big bump for him? Something is not right. If McCain wins, it will definitely be a steal. Any of you voting for McCain, put a bumper sticker on your car so we will know who to blame!!!!!
His mother needs to take him out to the woodshed and spank him with some switchgrass.
Oh wait!-- we're using that for alternative fuel now.........oh wait--....
Two possibilities here:
The first scenario goes something like this. The right-wing pundits have now all received the memo. McCain is going down in November. The strategy is based on the depth and scope of America’s problems and the simple fact that neither one of the two candidates has even a ghost of a chance of fixing any of them.
Losing in November does two things for the Republicans. It gets them out of the burning building that they along with the Democrats set ablaze, and it sets up Obama to fail as the first African American president, thereby putting that little pipe dream to rest for a good long time. (New Yorkers won’t be seeing another David Dinkins any time soon, for example.)
They also believe that in the wake of a failed Obama term, they will be enthusiastically embraced yet again. It’s only a mere four years during which time the Republican controlled corporate media can effectively marginalize and destroy Obama and his presidency forever.
The second possibility is a bit darker. It has McCain dumping Palin fairly soon. McCain’s handlers will replace her with Lieberman just as Israel begins dropping US made Bunker Buster bombs on Iran, with our complete approval and complicity. The probable loss of US military personnel might even reignite the populous to that 9/11 fervor the Republicans so long for.
This affords Bush the opportunity, should this insane Iranian invasion go bad, (and it bloody-well will) to pull out the last stop and declare Martial Law throughout the “Homeland”…or “Fatherland” as some might prefer to say by that point.
The mechanism is firmly in place and Bush is poised and ready for this move, thanks in no small part to all of the support that he received from the other right wing of our one party system…the Democrats.
"Doesn’t matter, the white voters in America sees this election as between McCain and that n****r. Seen an electoral college map recently? It’s like the Civil War is still being fought."
Certainly not all the white voters in America. Not by a long shot.
And the electoral map has looked like that for the last several presidential races, between two white men.
Wonder if McSame called his two grandmothers c$%ts.
Korry @ 112:
Korry @ 112:
Also, some of those states in the red weren't in the Union during the Civil War and some of the ones leaning for McCain fought for the Union. And the ones in red, which is the majority of the South and Midwest, is going Republican while the Northeast is going Democrat which a reversal of the 1860 election prior to the Civil War.
Other than those things, it's just like the Civil War.
mornin folks, watched some of morning joe before work....he praised the mccain ad of course, and didn't even show obamas ad, yet they ridiculed it....what a hack
constituent @ 26:
He may not be comfortable with it, but he allowed it. He is so hellbent on grabbing for that brass ring that he'll step on any & everybody to get it. Not only that, he was and still is a modern day Republican who believes in all the deregulation and tax cuts that got us into this economic mess that we're it.
And, he's still the same guy who showed a patent disregard for the POW families and for injured veterans (among other groups of people w/in these united states).
fastfeat @ 93:
Likely you are right...I was thinkin maybe it was an attempt to cover up how bad FEMA is handling the crisis.
I've heard they dropped the ball again somewhat on this one.
Tyler Durden @ 94:
I hear ya man...
I don't know what I'm gonna do either if McBain "wins"...I have alot of family here, and I can't leave them, and I don't think I could convince all of them to leave if I wanted to leave...but damn living here could be rough if McBain does win.
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