Here's a great new ad against McCain and his position that the economy is fundamentally strong.....This ad is going to the placed in the swing states....
Church Member Defends NC Pastor: LGBT People 'Worthy of Death'
Anderson Cooper Questions North Carolina Republican Birther Candidate on Forgery Claims
John Fugelsang: Only in America Can You Be Pro-Death Penalty, Pro-Torture... and Still Call Yourself Pro-Life
Tucker Carlson: Reporters Have 'Slavish, Dog-Like Loyalty' to Obama 
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Perfect. Should be national.
How would a clueless wonder on the US economy know whether it was "fundamentally strong" or not ?
And let's not forget Carly Fiorina: "Palin Not Qualified to Feed McCain Farina"
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=3234
Nice touch bringing that toad Phil Gramm in at the end.
Their best ad to date. I'm donating money right now to help with this.
Actually, it's not very well edited. And to be honest, McCain's bumbling just makes it worse. I liked the other ad that came out this morning better.
would love to have seen the ad.
no longer available.
it's about time.....having Phil Graham "whine" at the end was priceless......keep hammering and hammering and hammering
McSame keeps reading his statements,glancing to the left all the time, but Obama tells it from what really is. I bet if you slipped a note on top of McSames notes that said: "The sky is falling", he would say that too.
This ad that ad I don't care, just come out swinging. They are liars and relishing in it. Hit back hard.
What's your Palin Baby Name? http://misslaura.dailykos.com/
My baby name is Ruthless Deport People
why do they cut away from Phil Gramm just before he gets to the money phrase?
they also don't ID Gramm onscreen as McCain's economic adviser.
kind of an awkward ad, could have hit harder
McCain has a 10 vote lead in the electoral college right now. I'm not sure how that happened. US voters must be brain dead or the polls are rigged. BO's shift to the right hasn't helped either.
Speaking of caving in: Pelosi strikes again. She helped push a bill thru the house allowing off-shore drilling to resume. What the hell is wrong with these people??
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/offshore_drilling
They needed to have a clip of McCain saying, "I don't know that much about the economy."
this ad's a nice start but, c'mon, kids, you're gonna hafta whack the pinata a little harder if you want the avalanche of goodies...
the invisible hand of the free market just picked my pocket.
I know I'm dreaming but ..
Instead of "John McCain .. Out Of Touch"
I'd like to see:
"John McCain .. In Cahoots with the THIEVES ransacking the US Treasury"
About time! That Phil Gramm quote needs to be in more ads!
Get off my fundamental lawn!
For the last time! Dammit!
too cerebral
need to make the statement
the last time a pol used this term...this is what we got
then show hoovervilles, and bread lines, and the dust belt
fear...for a better word....is good
They should've superimposed unemployment stats and economic figures over McCain's lies and at the end (and over Phil Gramm's image)...
"Phil Gramm,
former Texas Senator
Engineer of the Subprime Meltdown
McCain Advisor 2008"
Nice.
@13,
It may be hard to accept, but about 45% of the American people are so cluelessly fucking stupid, they would vote for their own execution if the republicans told them it was good for them! Oh well, sigh!
They had Phil Gramm up there talking about "a nation of whiners". Why the hell didn't they go the extra step and mention (even if only in a footnote) Gramm being behind the deregulations which got us into this mess?
Ryko @ 13:
you havent figured out yet that nancy is the weakest speaker in the history of the union?
btw, we just lost 25 percent of our refining capacity
where will that oil go?
Ruthless People @ 11:
Mine is "Blowback".
It is about time for Obama to start hitting hard against the inventor of the Blackberry!
Should have shown the announcement of the latest Bank closings... need more to tie together. It's a bit sloopy, I hate to say.
Otay @ 23:
And didn't his wife, Wendy, write the Enron Loophole?
Otay @ 23:
again...too intellectual
fear is what works
show a family getting kicked out of their home....mccain voice over...the fundamentals of our economy are strong
show a guy who hasnt held a full time job in over a year....voice over again
family sitting by the bedside of a dying child because they have no health care...voice over again
get nasty
JRo @ 27:
I meant sloppy. How IRONICAL.
Let's see. God sent hurricane "Staff of God" to disrupt the Republican convention right after the Focus on the Family Christofascist prayed for rain on the Democratic convention. Then God sent hurricane Ike to Phil Gramm and George Bush's home state of Texas. Then God sent the markets crashing the worst since 911 and the Great Depression right before the election.
Now if all this were happening to the Democrats when the Democrats had the White House and all 3 branches of government for most of the past decade right before an election what would Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and McCain's pastor Hagee be saying? God's sending a message to vote Democratic or feel his wrath maybe?
Ryko @ 13:
Read the whole thing before your pants find themselves in a wad. The bill only allows drilling 50 miles or more offshore and with the state's approval.
_Included in the bill is the $18 billion roll back of tax give aways for the oil companies
_Require the release of oil from the government's Strategic Petroleum Reserve to try to push down gasoline prices.
_Make it a federal crime for oil companies holding federal leases to provide gifts to government employees, a response to a recent sex and drug scandal involving the federal office that oversees the offshore oil royalty program and energy company employees.
_Provide tax credits for wind and solar energy industries, the development of cellulose ethanol and other biofuels.
_Require utilities nationwide to generate 15 percent of their electricity from solar, wind or other alternative energy source.
_Give tax breaks for new energy efficiency programs including the use of improved building codes and for companies that promote their employees use of bicycles for commuting.
From a strategery stand point I think it's pretty slick for democrats, not known recently as the party of great strategery.
Otay @ 23:
Exactly right. I was taught in grade school that after the stock market crash of 1929 Congress enacted laws to keep it from ever happening again. If Gramm dismantled these laws and is McCain's economic adviser that is the message that should be out there in the forefront.
this morning on scarborough, he showed a clip of a biden event and a local woman who was talking ... and evidently she said something that, according to scar, made biden turn and walk out of the camera shot…
does anyone know what that was about?
Jo @ 28:
didnt mccain once call wendy a gook?
Get back to the war and weave it together with why the economy is so screwed up for Christ’s sake.
Earmarks for the country of Georgia. That is what McBush is talking about. Earmarks for Iraq while they are sitting on $80,000,000,000 in New York banks. Why am I paying for Iraq’s infrastructure.
Why am I paying for Alaska’s infrastructure. Palin got over $200 per person in earmarks for Alaskans meanwhile she handed out checks for $1200 dollars to each of them last week. How come Joe Sixpack and Betty Winebox don’t know this???
uncle joe mccarthy @ 29:
Great idea to do this in an emotional manner, but my question is why didn't he tie McCain's advisor Gramm to the family getting kicked out of their home.
I can't believe that stupid old man kept repeating that dumb shit...on such a bad economic day. After Obama and Biden lambasted Grandpa, he just flat out lied(AGAIN) in trying to amend his original bullshit remark....it was like blaming someone else for farting when everyone knows full well you did it.
Ruthless People @ 11:
Axe Diesel Palin
uncle joe mccarthy @ 35:
Sounds about right to me.
My baby name is Falter Locust.
This is all too vague and general. It feels like a game of gotcha, not a serious debate. I want to see the specific ideas that McCain has that are so terrible, like privatizing social security and taxing health care, then end the ad with an out of touch McCain saying the fundamentals are strong. That will resonate. I also want to see ads that give me good reasons to vote for Obama if I'm worried about the economy. There's plenty of them.
Jo @ 28:
Yes yes yes!! And Phil The Turtle Head was being talked about as the Treasury Secretary if McBush wins. In fact if McBush does get elected look for Turtle Head to be the Treasury Secretary.
If anything this ad is a showcase of McCain's nervous twitches.
Ruthless People @ 11:
Squat Ina Outhouse
you need SOMETHING that fits on a BUMPERSTICKER....
and nothing MORE THAN THAT.....
try these:
MCCAIN.... THE SAME ONLY MORE SIMILAR
or
PALIN.... The REPUBLICAN BRIDGE TO NOWHERE
or
MCCAIN.... BUSTING UNIONS FOR A LIVING
anything more complex AND YOU LOST YOUR...hey.... are you still reading ?
Who says McCain can't use a keyboard? He looks like he is using his left hand pretty well in those clips. Oh, and the ad is Okay, but it won't hit people who don't really pay much attention to the news (and that is a boatload of people).
on rachel maddow tonight, with louise slaughter, talking about the house vote on drilling today was a bit of a help - not for rachel though...
slaughter tried to explain the whys and objectives... made sense to me...
but i'm not very good at re-explaining these things...
the biggest benefit if they take away the tax breaks for the oilcos and it goes to alternatives...
(something like that)
scottap @ 42:
Taxing healthcare!!! Why the hell is not every one of the Obama talking heads repeating this over and over every time a McBush talking head brings up higher taxes? I hardly ever hear it. I watch a lot of this politics crap all day. I almost never hear it and when I do it sounds like an afterthought. Said like a whisper. It should be screamed at any McBushite who says anything about Obama raising taxes on people making $50,000,000,000,000
McCain is now saying when he says "fundamentals" he is talking about the U.S. worker.
So Obama is mocking U.S. workers.
WE ALL LOVE A LITTLE BUSH @ 46:
Kerry would have won with "I went - He didn't"
Harley @ 50:
So why isn't Obama saying "You, John McCan't have said the economy is fundamentally sound 22 times since January and never once did you say anything about workers. You are a liar McShame!"
WE ALL LOVE A LITTLE BUSH @ 46:
McCain: Palin comparison
McCain: Wrong on America
Palin: Separation of Country and State
Palin: Watergate cover up before election
McCain: Ten Hours of Combat Experience!
Overall great, but I wish they identified Phil Gramm and his role in McCain's campaign.
oncall @ 47:
countdown showed some clips tonight, and one especially, front view of mcLAME reaching out and up to glad-hand, over and over and over, hands definitely higher than shoulders...
Harley @ 50:
you don't mean that literally, do you?
52 Captain ENOUGH Kangaroo Says: Harley @ 50:
McCain is now saying when he says “fundamentals” he is talking about the U.S. worker.
So Obama is mocking U.S. workers.
So why isn’t Obama saying “You, John McCan’t have said the economy is fundamentally sound 22 times since January and never once did you say anything about workers. You are a liar McShame!”
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McCain: 'Fundamentals' = American people
My opponents may disagree, but those fundamentals of America are strong…. Our workers have always been the strength of our economy, and they remain the strength of our economy today.”
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/McCain_camp_Fundamentals__Am...
It would have been more effective if they had been able to catch McCain's head exploding.
What an idiot!!!
He might have a chance to convince me that the fundamentals of our economy are strong if he could first convince me that he had any idea at all what he's talking about.
Am I the only one who think he's getting less and less articulate by the week?
uncle joe mccarthy @ 29:
Asolutely. Do you hear that Obama people???? These three ads will MAKE A DIFFERENCE!!!
McCain-Palin ... No Thanks.
E.Lee.Tist @ 4:
Why not? He might whine if you didn't give credit where credit is due.
the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999
and
the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000.
The two pieces of legislation authored by Gramm, which essentially gutted regulation of the financial markets, and lead to the sub-prime mortgage crisis, and today's market failures. Time for them to OWN it!
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 57:
This is what the McShit campaign said today!!
Jo @ 46:
I put in Sara Palin's name and here is what came out, believe it or not: Churn Scorpion Palin
Jo @ 46:
Clamp Noodle
Up is down and green is blue according to republican liars. Some stupid Americans will believe it.
Harley @ 58:
mccain can't hide behind that.
the unions are going to expose his record.
period.
Captain ENOUGH Kangaroo @ 63:
McCain and his campaign is self destructing. If we could figure out a way to get people to listen to what he actually says he would be gone already. The Republicans would replace him with Mickey Mouse if they had to.
56 katy Says: oncall @ 47:
Who says McCain can’t use a keyboard? He looks like he is using his left hand pretty well in those clips. …
countdown showed some clips tonight, and one especially, front view of mcLAME reaching out and up to glad-hand, over and over and over, hands definitely higher than shoulders…
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McCain can't use a keyboard but somehow he is able to grill steaks, ribs and burgers every year for the bar-b-que for the media at his house. I remember reading a gushing story that old John stood behind the grill for over 45 minutes to serve the first round of food.
America's Reaction: They are picking on sweet John McCain.
Captain ENOUGH Kangaroo @ 63:
just like anti-war = you hate the troops!
maybe they should ask mcC*nt why he votes against the workers?
unleash the 527s!
kerplunk @ 70:
that's not america's reaction, that's mcMedia's reaction.
Ripper Shook = Captain Kangaroo
Krinkle Bearcat = Captain ENOUGH Kangaroo
Beretta Hockey = Captain Bitter Huesein Kangaroo
You guys have to pass this one around:
John McCain Mocks US Workers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjSMMItbZ9Y
Site Admin this may be a good topic of discussion.
now THIS is an ad that hits both the head and the gut... and i agree with Ian @#1... it should go national - and for a solid week every day every friggin' hour... and Obama needs more of this... this is their best effort to date...
Barrak Obama has to start making noise. LOUD noise. It is September 16. Get on the ball. There is nothing to lose except the election itself. If he pulls a John Kerry this country is fucked. If he loses the election it is better to go down in flames than the way Kerry did. None of this namby pamby crap.
We need another speech like the acceptance speech. It has to be about the economy. With Bill Clinton at his side. God damn it I’m not one of his high paid campaign people. GET OFF THE STICK!!!
Another crappy ad.
From Morning Joe - McCain says fundamentals = U.S. workers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DRoe7fTFug
klunk @ 75:
Just where is this ad running? Ohio? Pennsylvania? Florida? Michigan? New Mexico? Colorado?
This is wrong people. Yes, the ad is powerful, but the reason it is powerful is the fundamental thing that is wrong with the political process. We should challenge uninformed voters to become more involved and educated about the candidates, instead of succumbing to a level of negativity in order to sway some voters. This only feeds and allows for the problem. Obama's candidacy had such drawing power because it promised for a better tomorrow for our children and future generations, and part of that future is not supposed to resort to politics such as this. I think he should go back to his original message that inspired people so easily. Watch his Iowa primary speech and then watch this ad right after - you'll get what I mean.
No. 44 @ 77:
show a family getting kicked out of their home….mccain voice over…the fundamentals of our economy are strong
show a guy who hasnt held a full time job in over a year….voice over again
family sitting by the bedside of a dying child because they have no health care…voice over again
get nasty
Harley @ 78:
i'm starting to get that same icky feeling with mcsame as i've been getting for a long time now every time i hear bush speak... funny thing is though... painlin only took her acceptance speech to get me to despise her... am i a sexist...?... in my defense, i was a hillary supporter... ;-)
Oops I misunderstood the rules of the Palin name game. I thought we were naming her currently gestating grandchild. Hence "Blowback".
Palin: Standing Strong Against "Special" Olympians
For Christ Sake-----
Hit them again and again, and again.
Throw them an anchor!!!!!!!
About time!!!!!!
I can't understand how McCain has such good poling numbers.
If he is the next POTUS, and it's looking more and more like he will win, the next four years will be worse than the last eight. Un-fuckin-believable.
I think the ad was not very good. I do believe the fundamentals are strong. I am from a middle class family and from what I have seen we have not been hurting at all. Other then high gas prices which still aren't hurting us that bad, the economy seems ok to me.
Captain Bitter Huesein Kangaroo @ 76:
Apparently, I'm not the only one who is tired of playing patty-cake with these crooks.
the ad is a hit.
and other ad-ons, McCains assets profiled along with "fundamentals are strong"
let the voters see his perspective
The dims should go beyond such ads and start pitching their own narrative to catch voters. Such as what is real progressive patriotism and community service. Let them show shots of volunteers heaping sacks for a flood-wall or serving soup kitchens. Being community organizers and activists, why isnt that patriotic
Eric N, you gotta visit the homeless SUVcamped in church lots or go down to the local food pantry and get a whiff of the action
Ryko @ 13:
Idiots!
Here in CA the Republican congress members played the majority "WHHAAWWW" Democrats...
In Washington the Republican congress members played the majority "WWHHAAWW" Democrats.
Where the hell is the VERY popular SCHIP program to force Repubs (and Bush) into a defensive pose?
GOD! I HATE Nancy "I should be impeached" Pelosi!
The Obama camp needs to hammer it home on how McCain and the rethugs wanted to privatize Social Security. Just imagine if these corrupt bastards had been given your retirement money to play with. This should be all over the airwaves in Florida.
chmyers @ 89:
I've wondered why some of these modern Hoovervilles have been featured in an ad yet. Where's does John McCain think these people go when they lose their homes to foreclosure? I've seen interviews with some people who live in these instant trailer parks. Most seem to want only a chance to start again. Interview more and ask McCain if they seem like a bunch of whiners.
$85 Bil bail out of AIG.
yeah, Im whining our nations economy was fucked by Phil gramm.
Eric N @ 87:
Then get out of your bubble and look around. Hell's bells, our kids are going to have to shovel tons of shit to clean up this mess.
new voter @ 80:
In other words Obama should sit back and let McCain lie himself into office. I don't think so.
a start.....
Dems have a long way to go to really make their points in the ad wars..
Joke: What is the worst thing about sara palin? Answer: John McCain
Obama needs to make a major speech that will ROCK the foundation of America and the world!!
O/B*08
Well, that was a DNC ad.
Cafferty had it spot on 3 months ago and now things are even worse. Gas has gone down a bit, but only because of the slow down in consumption.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OV37QSDN14&feature=related
I wonder what Eric who wrote in thinks now, now that unemployment is even worse since June and the markets keep failing. I still don't get how anyone can believe in this joke called McCain. He's not even funny.
Let's just cut through through the bullshit. McCain will win this election because of one reason and one reason only. Obama is black. When you hear that 1 in 4 West Virginians say race is an issue, and 1 in 10 from Ohio and Pennsylvania say the same thing (and that's the ones who'll ADMIT it), he doesn't stand a chance. He should be 20 points up on these two dolts. And I'm a white guy.
The other thing that pisses me off is the Clintons sitting by the wayside with a big smile on their faces watching their party go down in flames just to set up her next run. And now I see one of Hillary's biggest supporters is going to endorse McCain tomorrow. We're so fucking dead...
Missing from this ad are "real people", sitting around a kitchen table piled high with bills as they watch McCain on TV repeat the "fundamentaly strong" line. Their jaws drop and they shake their heads.
That's why there hasn't been the connection that everyone is talking about. Winning in politics is about establishing relationships with likely voters. If you recall, Hillary did her best late in the primaries featuring ads with "real people" talking about their own lives and why they support her. It's all about relationships.
nickpoppagorgiofromyuma @ 100:
Are you serious, who is the douche?
they should have an ad tomorrow on john mccain claiming he's a deregulator.
----And now I see one of Hillary’s biggest supporters is going to endorse McCain tomorrow. We’re so fucking dead…----
you mean that social climbing twit lynn forrester? she wants obama to raise money for hillary to pay for her campaign debt. if she's so rich, then why doesnt she pay hillary's debt herself. she's a nobody who wants to be known.
Eric N @ 87:
Are you out of your nut? Any one of these would be awful:
3 of the 5 biggest investment banks have gone bankrupt or collapsed and had to be sold.
The Dow Jones lost 542 points yesterday! (MORE THAN 4.4%)
The Dow ended the day at 10,917.51. Just to give you an idea of how bad that is:
When Clinton took office, it was at 3,241.95.
When Bush took over, it was at 10,578.24.
In SEVEN YEARS, it's gone up 300 points, less than it dropped yesterday.
(In other words, you'd actually be better off after taxes saving your money under your bed than putting it into a broad mutual fund.)
One in 11 mortgages in the U.S. is delinquent or in foreclosure.
Median price for existing homes fell by 7.1% in the past year.
The national average gasoline price when Bush took office was $1.46 per gallon. Now it's more than $4 in some places.
Prices for everything are up 24.5% since Bush took office.
U.S. lost 605,000 jobs in the first eight months of 2008.
Unemployment is up to over 6%.
The budget deficit has more than doubled in the last year last year.
Take your pick. I'm sure there are more to choose from.
uncle joe mccarthy @ 30:
Agreed. How about segueing into Herbert Hoover quotes juxtaposed with McCain's, with images of Depression-era families on breadlines. It would certainly put the fear into the white haired ladies that lived through the 1930's (most of whom are voting for McSame.)
"—-And now I see one of Hillary’s biggest supporters is going to endorse McCain tomorrow. We’re so fucking dead…—-
you mean that social climbing twit lynn forrester? she wants obama to raise money for hillary to pay for her campaign debt. if she’s so rich, then why doesnt she pay hillary’s debt herself. she’s a nobody who wants to be known."
Yeah, but the Repubs will have a field day with it, and the Hillary "supporters" that are on the fence will jump at this for a reason. I just don't know how in the world we are EVER going to get the knuckle-dragging mouth breathing so-called "working class (see: dumb white guy) Democrat to vote for Obama. I get the feeling that if McCain and Cribou Barbie just stood up there during the debates and said "no-comment" to every question, it still wouldn't matter. This is scary as hell thinking the end of the World, let alone America, is right at our doorstep...
107 nickpoppagorgiofromyuma
if the repubs smell this fear they will run with it. if we dont care, it wont matter as much. let them cover it. so what? hrc's support is the one's that's important. it has been clear that hrc supporters, the ones who take note of issues, will not vote for palin. dont be defeatist. attack. fiorina's comments should be looped. that's more powerful than a whacko like lynn forrester.
People in the "let the market decide" crowd need to take note: the market has decided to fuck you in the ass with a razor-spiked dildo. Maybe regulations aren't so bad after all...
108 masha
I wish I could have your optimism. I live in Illinois, so this state is decided. But it's the Pennsylvanias, Ohios, Michigans, Floridas, and now Wisconsins that are killing us. My God, how many manufacturing jobs do these states have to lose? Obama needs help from the Clintons...lot's of it. And the biggestthing he needs...TURNOUT BY THE YOUNG VOTE!!! It's their future that is being decided here, Barack needs to bring that up everytime he talks.
I also love the idea of tying Hoover's and McCain's comments together showing Black & White movie reels of people starving and standing in bread lines. If that doesn't scare them...
Bad ad. People probably don't believe the "fundamentals" are bad. They know that economies have ups and downs. McCain has promised you all ponies and it will all be okay.
Not sure if this is an effective ad. For the most part, it's a repeated mantra of McSame saying the economy is strong, which in turn seems to be a message more for him, rather than a "vote for Obama ad." Phil Gramm's quote about Americans being a nation of whiners comes too late, at the end. Needs more editing and a rethink to be more effective.
"OUT OF TOUCH"
excellent...
fundamentally strong is the name of my new band.
Dr Zen @ 111:
Yeah, to the voter looking for answers, McCain could sound reassuring here instead of out of touch. People don't want forecasts of gloom and doom, they want to know that everything will be all right. What's missing is Obama's message of hope. Not a smart move, this ad.
The tag lines should have been: "John McCain and advisors don't have a clue, and they wouldn't know where to buy one.".
brilliant....80 percent of the ad is devoted to McCain repeating his message; a paltry remainder has an unnarrated text graphic at the end.
Does anyone in the democratic party know how to frame a message? You've got to make it personal to the voter you're targeting...the auto worker, the tech person who's job got oursourced, the single mom with no child care. For the people who've been foreclosed out of their homes, you've got to make them understand that it was mccain's guy phil gramm who caused the problem; put THAT in juxtaposition with his whining comment.
I don't mean to sound condescending, because I certainly don't...but how many low information voters truly understand what's happening in the financial markets? Yes, they know it's bad, but do they truly understand the cause and effect on their lives? If so, great, but that doesn't mean you don't reinforce the point for them.
Good lord, I've never seen such weak advertising min my life.
If you want to "win" elections in this country you need:
- control of the media
- control of media polls
- callers to jam opposition phone banks at get out the vote time
- smear telephone "polls" that insinuate that a candidate is
- control of voting machine setup and distribution
- control of voter registration rolls
- the backing of
Diebold Election SystemsPremier Election SolutionsIt worked in the last two elections, it will work again, no matter how fundamentally strong our economy is.
@117 mocasdad is on the money, sadly.
Too much of the advertising I've seen has been set up to IMPLY a message and in cases like this, you have to just STATE it, not only through juxtapositions (after every McCain repetition, show an example of why it's not), plus STRONG NARRATION of the message at the end.
Unfortunately, treating people as if they've got the common sense to take away the message you THINK they should take away the message is misguided. When there's any wiggle room, people will take away the message they WANT to see. And I'm afraid that Stockholm Syndrome is starting to set in here.
I can't watch five minutes of him shuffling and stuttering without wondering how millions of people could think this empty headed geriatric nightmare is fit to be the president of the US.
Seriously. Why would anyone in their right mind hand over the govenence of their country to a guy who needs a long nap and a draconian stepford robot rather than two highly intelligent, educated and qualified candidates like Obama/Biden?
GlobalH @ 119:
I have to agree that the first time I watched it I wondered if it was a mcsame commercial. A lot of the tv viewing zombies are only going to take the "economy is fundamentally strong" message away from this.
Do swing states still have key parties?
uncle joe mccarthy @ 30:
Exactly. The inbreds in the swing states they're running these in need it spelled out for them in big print at an 8th grade reading level. Show some people in an unemployment line, the stock market plunging, etc. spell out the amount of money that the American taxpayer is left holding the bag for with these bailouts and how much we're borrowing to fund our wars.
about. damn. time.
Electing another Republican after the debacle of the last eight years would be rewarding failure.
Smart businesspeople know that you don't reward failure.
With no context?? That's a little nuts.
It will convince simpler people that: The fundamentals of our economy are strong. That McCain is right.
You have to already be well-informed, and believe that it's NOT strong, for the ad to work at all.
Sheesh.
This ad is ok. I agree with a previous poster who said the other fundamentals ad was better. Both ads should have a clip of Bush saying the exact same phrase in 2007. "the fundamentals of our economy are strong". It would be a great way to tie them together.
For that matter you could do an entire ad of Bush speaking and then McCain repeating the same talking point word for word. He has done it for years now.
Why no clips of Chimpy saying the exact same thing? Why did we stop tying McBush to Chimpy? That was the perfect opening to stick some vid of Chimpy saying the exact same words...
Like this (August 10, 2007):
"The American economy is the envy of the world, and we need to keep it that way," Bush said, conceding that "I'm not an economist'' but maintaining that he sees strong basic indicators in the state of the economy. "The fundamentals of our economy are strong. ... Job creation is strong. Real after-tax wages are on the rise. Inflation is low."
And with these words the president headed out for an August break, starting in Kennebunkport, Maine, last night and moving on to Crawford, Texas, next week. "
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/08/bush_fundamental...
This is just one of many of these utterings....
oops, beat me to it rj!
Check out the ad Obama released this morning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONM7148cTyc
They should re-word from fundamentally strong to FUNDAMENTALLY WRONG
The economy is FUNDAMENTALLY STRONG.
With one, sometimes two, large private institution being nationalized every week, and each installed headed with a pro Bush McCain staffer, they will have a fundamentally strong regime. Strong enough to bend public's will, and turn this country into Communism, eh, Fascism,..... eh Theocracy.
Let's see 45+ days left, that's 7 weeks, 7 more large private institutions, say GM (transport), BlueCross (health), Hearst (media), etc. Each of which has lost more 50% of their value since the year began.
This ad is weak. It makes McCain look like someone who is trying his best to bolster confidence in a weakened economy. They need to really show how out of touch the guy is. Put in a few of those clips where he admits that he doesn't know what he's talking about. Use other clips of him saying things that *demonstrate* that he doesn't know what's happening. Find something similar to Bush telling the woman with three jobs how uniquely American and fantastic she is.
Gotta hit harder and smarter, guys.
An ad you won't soon forget!
http://thepoorman.net/2008/09/15/a-shocking-low/
Steveo @ 133:
Did you even watch the ad?
Eastcoasty @ 126:
Maybe they should run it as a Sesame Street special, or with some tele tubbies throwing in for good measure. Right?
I agree with recent postings. This is an ineffective ad. It can be interpreted by those viewers who aren't paying close attention -- who do not sit in rapture when teevee ads come on; i.e., almost all of us --as actually in support of McCain. The mumbling Gramm at the end then become some kind of afterthought, and if you don't have the volume up, you could think it was an endorsement.
Who is the agency who thought this up? Fire them or the d*mbf*ck person who forced them into making it NOW.
Time is running out, Obama "pros". This election should be an absolute no-brainer, and it's turning into a disaster.
And what's with the 49 seconds' length? Since when can you buy a 49 second ad on the teevee?
Rollo Tomassi @ 123:
Alas, I fear that you may be correct.
But at some point, the more "intellectual" states need to start considering a reverse secession... and leave all this dead weight that is the bible belt behind. I am sure they should offer some sort of amnesty/relocation programs to save the few decent and intelligent people who have had to live in such a sea of ineptitude.
I am fucking tired to be held hostage by complete and utter morons who have to be catered to constantly, lest them throw a hissy fit. Enough...
The Fundamentally Strong Rusty Shackleford @ 125:
Except of course that these failures made smart business people even richer than they were before. That's why they are putting their money behind Bombin' John and Drill Here Now Palin.
Agree with posters above that this ad is not very good. I see it as a waste of money, frankly. This ad assumes its audience is a lot more aware of esoterica/nuance than it probably is. I'm afraid most slack-jawed TV viewers will see it as an endorsement of McCain. The GOP has done really well repeating a lie over and over. In this ad McCain is repeating "the economy is fundamentally strong" over and over.
The GOP doesn’t win over and over by overestimating the intelligence of the average viewer. No wonder the Dems are seen to be elitist.
Very disappointing.
You want an ad?......run clips of McCain endorsing one thing, then run a clip where he's endorsing the exact opposite. There are lots and lots of examples. Then POINT OUT TO THE VIEWER that McCain is a flip-flopper, or a panderer, or will change any position to get elected, etc.....
"We've sorta become a nation of liars." Yeah! Right! Can you believe Phil Gramm said this at the end of McCain's tape and once again McCain lied when the the truth would fit better. What a bunch of jerks the Republicans are.
As an Obama supporter and a marketing creative director, this is not a 'great' spot. It's sloppy. Think like conservatives--simple, clean, repeatable message.
It should begin with the facts--in graphics show the numbers of job losses, home foreclosures, bank insolvencies, bankruptcies, etc...coincides with the copy: "The numbers don't lie. The nation is struggling. But after 8 years of President Bush's failed economic policies, there's only one thing John McCain can say...cut to him: "The fundamentals of our economy are strong." Then the tag: "Can you really survive 4 more years of this?" Then cut back to McCain from the Repub debates: "The issue of economics is not something I’ve understood as well as I should." Then the tag: "Barack Obama--Real Ideas, Real Change." And make sure you put the web address of his economic plan on the screen.
all I can say if we get another Bush things will just get worse and worse till we have a big depression.. dont think it is that far away....
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