Obama laughs at McCain's plan to "take on the old boys network"
By SilentPatriot Tuesday Sep 16, 2008 4:00pm
Barack Obama today continued his assault on John McCain's empty response to the monumental collapse of Wall Street. From Phil Gramm and the bevy of lobbyists running his campaign, to the pass-the-buck "solution" of forming a committee, to his failure to take action over the past 26 years, Obama lays out the clear contrast between his vision for the economy and the same old failed Republican ploys offered by Bush/McCain/Palin.
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"Yesterday, John McCain actually said that if he's president that he'll take on, and I quote, 'the old boys network in Washington.' Now I'm not making this up. This is somebody who's been in Congress for twenty-six years, who put seven of the most powerful Washington lobbyists in charge of his campaign. And now he tells us that he's the one who's gonna' to take on the old boys network. The old boys network? In the McCain campaign that's called a staff meeting. Come, on!"
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THAT was a great line!
this is a good line. he should use it more often.
Look, I love hearing *anyone* mocking McCain. McCain deserves it, for sure. But I think, as a political strategy, it's highly more effective to firmly and repeatedly attack - from the candidate himself and from Dem operatives. Coordinated, focused, easy to understand. I just don't see that coming from the Obama camp. Time is short. There's an old saying: "Nice guys finish last" and I'm afraid that may to happen to Obama.
McCain is not very sagacious, he makes these stupid statements way too often and is given a pass because he was a .............................. Ready for it ................................................ POW
John McCain Claims Phil Gramm is a Figment of Our Imagination
That's right Obama, kick Grandpa's LYING ass while you laugh at his bullshit. McBlackberry, the fight is on! And that scandal ridden bitch from the north pole can't save your ass!
Obama laughs at McCain’s plan to “take on the old boys network”
CBS?
But seriously, the old boys in Washington are young enough to be mcgramps children.
Great line Barack.. HA HA MC Cain could have that line gifted to him and would screw up the delivery.
ha... great one...
Gobama Go.... stay in control of that news cycle...
debates are on the way... should be interesting to see if mccain pulls a juliani....
noun, verb, and POW
Just where is Phil Graham during all of this? Shouldn't McCain's econ guru be talking to the public about how to fix this fiasco, or am I just whinning?
You ought to hear Chris Matthews screaming at the Republican on Hardball tonight. Tweety Bird is dissatisfied with the Republicans running away from their record.
In the McCain campaign that's called a staff meeting--LMFAO
Hah Hah! Like McCain denouncing Wall Street greed. I thought this was his base. Oh, that's the media, who I hear he's now attacking too.
This is shaping up to be a no-good-very-bad week for McSame.
Richard Severin Fuld, Jr. Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. received a $22 Million bonus based on a supposed net profit of 5 percent in 2007.
I'll tell you what, maybe the Death Penalty ought to apply to guys doing this kind of stuff.
Sound barbaric? Well imagine the pain and hardships guys like this bastard inflict on millions upon millions of people who trusted them with their investments.
Has anyone seen this!?
http://mediamatters.org/items/200809170008
Love the way the Obama campaign is focusing on McCain, moving Palin to the background where she belongs. It's going to be hard for the Rovians to spin this back onto her when they'll have to be answering directly about McCain. Going to force them to start responding instead of attacking.
My admiration for Team Obama continues to grow. Grampa may have The Forces of Darkness on his side but it's obvious there are quality people working for Obama.
Somewhere, Bill O'Reilly is lying in a tub of falafels and weeping.
the big MO
Dave Fragments @ 11:
the republicans or whatever they are celebrated that
BUSH wasn't at the RNC convention. they won't tale
responsibility for anything financial crisis,management
of the war,devalued dollar and home foreclosure. they
blame everyone else. it's deception...just like the
culture in today's financial market deception.
this time around rep. cantor fails to mention that the
current congress majority is paper thin and has a
record number of filibusters....
That was good.
Go Obama. Tear the clueless nitwit to pieces.
Of course, chunks of the MSM will just say he's being too negative.
Pelosi Orders Wide Wall Street Probe
How bout the old girls network? Pelosi's full of sh*t!
lightweights dont win; it's time for O to play the Keating card...
Hahahaaha, good stuff from Obama! Keep it going man!
Dave Fragments @ 11:
I was watching that and loving it. That guy Cantor or whatever his name is, is such a weasel. Now Chris is going after troopergate. Maybe he's caught on that shows like Keith's and Rachael's get viewers. Either that or someone has taken him off the leash. Whatever, I like it.
I love it when Obama says something like this. His delivery is so good and he's laugh out loud funny.
constituent @ 18:
I was watching that stream, he held the guys feet to the fire.
Wexler had something to say, an actual plan to put people to work and build America back. The republican wouldn't answer the simplest of questions and kept backpeddling and going anywhere but to the answer, even on a yes or no question.
I think that Obama can take the last segment of that speech and hone it into something that everyone can grasp. The heart of the neo-con model is, indeed, that discredited "supply-side" theory that is best defined as "trickle down." That is a simple image defining a simple truth that needs to be driven home. We, the 95% of Americans that really matter, do not want the last "trickles" from an arrogant, greedy, aristocracy. The "trickles" haven't even enabled the average American family to stay even for the past 8 years to say nothing of the lost jobs, homes, and health care coverage.
The old boys network? In the McCain campaign that’s called a staff meeting.
LOL
If I hadn't already decided to back Obama this line alone would have convinced me to jump on the bandwagon.
I'm glad to see Obama roll with this. McCain is a complete idiot for using that term when he has been a part of that network - he's reminded us several times that he has "plenty of experience" in Washington.
And he's reminded us he was a POW too. Did you know that?
That was good - it is the Obama everyone has been waiting to hear.
I was there! It was awesome!
"Staff meeting." I love it!
McCain desperately needs a "lipstick" event to save a day or two. McCainiacs are scrambling without a lifeline anywhere.
Bozoos and blonde bimbos are stuck without a line to repeat again and again. They need to get a Blackberry quickly, so they can pull it together. Anybody at McCain's events?
If something good doesn't happen for them in one week McCain will have to be desperate in the debates!
the republicans didn't want john mccainIII in 2000.
they wanted a weak texas governor named BUSH.
NOW mccain has all the answers and the savior.
what's interesting mccain sounds like a democrat.
he avoids BUSH and his policies.
mccain is third term of BUSH...........period.
"The old boys network? In the McCain campaign that’s called a staff meeting. "
HAhahahaha... yes!!
L.A. Confidential @ 21:
Come on kettle, that was even below your usually low standards.
The news of the last week or so must have you at a loss for words. I guess the economic situation is another "victory" for the "economy is fundamentally sound", "no taxes!", "just a little rough spot", "no government intervention" crowd, huh?
OBAMA: The old boys network? In the McCain campaign that’s called a staff meeting. Come, on!
Obama needs to use this line in the debates should McCain go there. Here's another one I just came up with...
"John McCain says that he's going to clean up corporate greed on Wall Street by bringing reform to Washington, yet he has hired lobbyists for Lehman Brothers, Merril Lynch, Bank of America, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac to come up with his economic plan. Folks, in the law community, that's what we call a conflict of interest!"
Breath of fresh air! Now if we can get Franken on this vibe, we may have a good November...
Time has excerpts of Hannity's interview(suck up) with Palin, and after a quick read, she has NO IDEA what is going on with wall street, OPM other peoples money and the corrupt CEOs are the problems, yea and they are also the reason that McCain has any money at all for his campagian. After reading that I need to get a cocktail in my system to stop the hurt.
L.A. Confidential @ 13:
And that profit was fake too, as it turns out. This is hurting alot of little people, anyone with a 401K or a Money Market, however it does not distinguish between R's and D's. Maybe all those R's will vote right in November.
lj @ 32:
He has an event not far from me tonight, but you had to have tickets. It is a VERY republican town so tickets went fast and you had to actually know a high-profile republican there in order to get one. This will be one of his town hall meetings so you bet he'll be greeted with friendly questions all the way around when unemployment in MI just hit a new high today. The rich and the stupid will be attending this event - 4000 of them. I'm praying a few dems will make it in. Local news is saying that some will be asking "pointed" questions. I'll believe it when I see it.
sgtmajor @ 35:
LOL hahaha government intervention? With the Bush Cabal handling it??
Hilarious you got to be kidding me!
Face it. Pelosi's a liar and she serving herself.
McCain doesn't care about all this economic downturn stuff because Cindy told him that times like this are great for beer sales.
Georgia Democrat @ 39:
Hey deregulation gave us ENRON!
Freddie!
And Lehman
And _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ fill in the blanks!
Be my guest!
I think everyo voter needs to hear that speech. HILLARIOUS and factual. Lets hope he brings that wit to the debates and wipes the floor with depend wearing McCain.
sgtmajor @ 42:
Funniest thing I've heard all day. Makes me glad I drink imported Bavarian merlot. Is that considered elitist? Maybe I should consider removing the "aspiring" from my name.
L.A. Confidential @ 43:
Uh, I'm gonna need more blank paper.
Barack Obama campaign officials must commence the re-branding of the opposition right now. The Republicans must be clearly identified as, the party that wrecked America.
Don't just go after John McCain. GO AFTER ALL OF THEM.
THE PARTY THAT WRECKED AMERICA
"In the McCain campaign that’s called a staff meeting."
Nice.
sgtmajor @ 42:
beer sales........ which translates into Hamptons villas, Gulfstream jets, and other playthings
A little off-topic, but
Yohance @ 14:
I've always kind of though that Bill'o looks like a child-molester. Kinda creepy like.
L.A. Confidential @ 21:
And Harry Reid says "We simply don't know what to do." Ahhhh!
And around the neighborhood.
Neighbors: Hey L.A. how ya been!
L.A. Uh hey how are ya!
Neighbors: Great just got back from Orlando. Had a great time Disney and all. Getting ready for the game tonight!
L.A. Yeah. The game is it home or . . . . . .
sgtmajor @ 42:
HAH. That reminds me of the ONLY statement mccain's made in the last 12 months that I agree with.
That's right folks, I too am doing my part to "leave no beer behind".
By the way, anybody still doubting McCain's ties to this whole economic mess should check this out...
And, speaking of names in the news – whose lobbyists are working for the McCain Campaign?
AIG – Wayne Berman, National Finance Committee Co-Chair
Merrill Lynch – Charlie Black, McCain Campaign Senior Adviser
Merrill Lynch – Judy Black, Women for McCain Steering Committee
Merrill Lynch – Daniel Crippen, Senior Policy Adviser
Merrill Lynch – James Hyland, Virginia Steering Committee
Merrill Lynch – Peter Madigan, fundraiser
Merrill Lynch – Steve Phillips, fundraiser
Lehman Brothers – Charlie Black, McCain Campaign Senior Adviser
Lehman Brothers – Vicki Hart, Women for McCain Steering Committee
Bank of America – David Crane, Senior Policy Adviser
Fannie Mae – Kirsten Chadwick, fundraiser, Women for McCain Steering Committee
Fannie Mae – Arthur Culvahouse, head of McCain V-P search
Fannie Mae – Alison H. McSlarrow, Women for McCain Steering Committee
Fannie Mae – Aquiles Suarez, Economic Adviser
Freddie Mac – Juleanna Glover Weiss, Women for McCain Steering Committee
Any of those companies sound familiar? Not to mention Phil Gramm, who was the orchestrator in full of the entire debacle in 1999 that lifted all of the legislation passed as part of the New Deal to prevent against another Great Depression, like the one we will see if McCain is elected president. Hmmm, if you look at McCain a little out of focus, he kind of looks like Hoover, doesn't he?
See, Kerry? That's what you should have done.
Well, heck, it is laughable, since McLame is part of the old boy network..... In fact, old enough to be a charter member.....JD
The old boys network? In the McCain campaign that’s called a staff meeting.
Now THAT's entertainment.
That'll make the Lenoman show tonight...
More please...
Hitt'em widda fuukin CHAIR!
lj @ 32:
Well, I'm not sure if the MSM will latch onto this. They may consider it a cat fight and then, of course, they will latch on to it. Hillary has backed out of the Jewish anti-Iran event after finding out that Palin was also invited, stating that she did not realize it would be a partisan political event.
The campaign can save millions by stop paying the Madison Avenue ad types for those flashy (but ineffective ads) and simply run clips from his stump speeches as campaign commercials. It's real.
Sometimes I wish Obama would hit harder and sooner, that his lines would be zingier. Then I hear something link this and compare it to how Gore and Kerry campaigned, and I feel much better that Obama knows what he's doing and he's playing his cards exactly the way he wants.
Note to Barrack: keep this up! The voters and MSM love some pointed humor and more passion when possible.
Dukakis, Gore, and Kerry tried the thoughtful and thought full approach only, and they didn't connect with the beer drinkers (wine too) If your at a bar or next to a water cooler it's easier to remember a joke than a policy statement. Go Obama!
BigTallMatt @ 54:
Keep these coming and repeat often Matt. Thanks!
The Republicans
THE PARTY THAT WRECKED AMERICA
sgtmajor @ 35:
To me, a probe is the same thing as a commission. I'm not happy with Nancy Pelosi's job performance and she gets worse all the time. Vincent Bugliosi outlines the entire case for prosecution of Bush and Co. and impeachment is still off the table. Now a Vermont candidate for attorney general says she will appointment Bugliosi as a special prosecutor if she is elected. That's state level. What is happening on the federal level, nothing. They can't even follow through with KKKarl Rove. It is disgusting.
*rubs temples*
*closes eyes*
I predict the Republicans will claim that Obama is making fun of McCain's age with emphasis on "OLD" in his sentence.
L.A. Confidential @ 13:
I'm with you! Those ba$tards do not deserve one red cent for leading a failing company into the ground... his money should go to debt repayment IMMEDIATELY and he should hang his head in abject sorrow and shame. What effin' losers these CEOs are!!!
Obama is the best thing that ever happened to America.
Yohance @ 14:
I think we'll hear about this evening on "worst person in the WORRRRLD!" It's got to be getting difficult for Olbermann to narrow these picks down to three.
CMINCA @ 64:
Pelosi needs to be tossed out onto the street so she can learn what real struggle is all about for the first time of her pampered, privilaged, and spoiled existence.
Thanks Matt and everyone...
keep connecting the dots.
Pass it on to all the campaigns and Keith and Rachel Maddow...
lj @ 62:
L.A. Confidential @ 63:
The Democrats...The party that stood by and let them.
George Bush, the Swindler in Chief.
We have just been witness to the greatest bank job in the history of the world.
The heads of the bank just GAVE the money away.
The US Treasury!!!!!
Just phucken gave the money away!
Let's hear Obama hit them all with that. Wall Street may ask for their campaign money back that they donated to him. He will make it up easily. He can crucify them, I want to hear him say it!
Yohance @ 65:
You're probably right. Sarah Palin is against the "good ol' boys" thing. Why are they attacking the democrats in Alaska for her problems? It's those "good ol' boys" getting a bit of theirs back, right?
L.A. Confidential @ 69:
Nancy Pelosi - equally hated by Republicans and Democrats. What a legacy.
L.A. Confidential @ 13:
The Chinese mete out suitable punishment to malefactors in the 'private' sector whose greed becomes an embarrassment to the (world's first, fully functioning Corporate) State. The criminal is apprehended, and swiftly tried. The conviction is pro forma. Death is the sentence. The jailers provide the condemned with a shovel and a plot of ground. When the hole is dug, the condemned is stripped to (usually) his underwear, made to kneel in the hole, and shot twice in the head. The body is then covered with quicklime, buried, and forgotten.
Since these excesses do seem to recur in Chinese industry--the melamine/milk scandal is a current example--the deterrent quality of the procedure seems dubious at best.
But it does prevent recidivism pretty completely.
staff meeting hahahah!
fell off my chair and grabing the table cloth and there followed my dinner. Still laughing.
right on! @ 66:
Ken Lay should have been the first. Perhaps we would have saved this Country a lot of trouble if he set the example for what happens when you pull this kind of crap. He conveniently had a heart attack just before sentencing pretty convenient timing there.
Johnny2Bad @ 71:
Huh? The Democrats regained power as recently as January 2007.
Bernie Bear @ 76:
They call John McCain a member of the Keating Five. LOL. Oops, sorry, that's not funny its true.
The Smiths @ 70:
You're very welcome. Anybody happen to know how to contact KO or Rachel?
CMINCA @ 78:
that legislative majority is paper thin. please check the
record number of filibusters,threat to veto,veto and
signing statements.......get a grip
I'm sure you've all heard the Washington Mutual is for sale. And the hits just keep on coming.
THAT's the spirit!!
CMINCA @ 82:
time to deleverage.....coming home to roost.
BigTallMatt @ 80:
They both have e-mail contacts (thru the links to their individual shows) on the MSNBC website.
A little TO: CNN just reported that someone apparently has hacked into Palin's email account and posted emails on the web. The McCain camp is asking for a full investigation! Oh, this is gonna be good.
Anyone gotta a link????
GWB has privatized the profit while socializing the risk!
I heard today that Hillary ducked out of some sort of conference that Moosegirl was attending. I'm sure the reich-wingers will start pounding on that.
Instead of hammering Hockey Mom, Hillary goes missing. It appears she doesn't give a whit about Obama's campaign. It's all about 2012 for her.
Tell me I'm wrong about this.
And ... shouldn't Biden be front and center more often?
Anyone remember George's big solution to the Wall Street shenanigans: Sarbannes-Oxley. Worked wonders George. Wonders.
theWalrus @ 86:
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/read_sarah_palin%27s_private_emails%2... - about 1/2 way down the page.
Did anybody report that State is calling for all Murkins to depart Bolivia?
BigIslandDave @ 88:
It is an anti-Iran event sponsored by a Jewish group. Clinton backed out when she heard Palin was invited. Its true.
The McCain mafia know that they are losing ground. With this economic thing - Barack has now taken the lead in the horse race style polls. Barack will probably open up more of a lead next with this financial meltdown happening and McAnus seeming so out of touch with his,"The fundamentals of our economy are strong" bullsh*t. Palin's Troopergate ain't helpin' either. Yogi Bera famously said,"It ain't over 'till it's over." and the illuminati ,New World Order people, Bush family, Dick Cheney Mafia have already decided that the next president will be a repuglican. Hmmm, what's the McCain mafia got up their sleeve ??
1.) Outrage about gay marriage? No, that's been there ,done that.
2.) Accuse Barack of calling the white lady a pig? No that got them in a bit of trouble.
3.) Say that Barack is a Muslim? No, already been tried.
4.) The other day, on FOX , some dude called Rachel Maddow a lesbian. THAT'S IT !! Outrage !! The homos are taking over the media !! Soon, all of our kids will be homos and Americans will stop reproducing which is bad for the economy!!
5.) 9/11/2001 terrorism (which was done by the Bush administration) was a 100% success. THIS IS BETTER THAN THE LESBIAN SCARE. McAnus and Palin The Pig will talk tough against those non-humans called Muslims. Then when the next 9/11 happens between now and the election (referred to as the "October Surprise" on the internets) the American public will be shocked (read the book ,"The Shock Doctrine") Then while the American public is in shock, fear, outrage,terrified - We will be told that Obama is weak on national security and fighting terror. Obama wants to sit down and have afternoon tea with Osama bin Biden. Hmmm, maybe the best timing for the October surprise would be hmmm, around 2 -3 days before or after Halloween. That way "Fighting Islamofacsism" will be the central issue as people go to the polls.
There is no way that Dick Cheney will allow Barack Hussein Osama and Joseph bin Biden to get into the Whitehouse. The New World Order people will explode nuclear bombs in 3 American cities if they have to. Things in America will only get worse and worse until a large percentage of Americans realize that 9/11 was done by the same people who killed John F. Kennedy.
CMINCA @ 92:
double talk express i know a lot less about........i don't
know who said that but i know a lot about economics
i get the info from my deregulator friend phil gramm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OunCv-7qvA
CMINCA @ 92:
Doing the right thing, even if for the wrong reason, is still doing the right thing...
"Pelosi Orders Wide Wall Street Probe" Why the hell did she take impeachment off the table instead of this shit?
Obama notes that McCain has "put seven of the most powerful Washington lobbyists in charge of his campaign." While rightly calling McCain on the carpet about this, what Obama does not want anyone to know is that the top five contributors to the Obama campaign are registered corporate lobbyists. This does not exactly jibe with Obama's image as being supported by small individual donors especially since Obama is backed by Wall Street's biggest firms, such as Goldman Sachs, J P Morgan Chase, and even, among others, Lehman Brothers.
Yohance @ 14:
I would say Bill needs all the material he can get, but news, this is NOT. More like a little gab fest........close you eyes and visualize him with pounds of COLD CREAM on his face, and curlers in his hair............in the background is the showtune, I Enjoy Being a GIRL.
You go, billy girl.........you are so on the way out.
Erroll @ 98:
Really no comparison there. Donations are voluntary, so candidates don't have much control over who contributes to their campaign. To try and say that somehow Obama, by garnering monetary support from Wall Street firms (which usually means they LIKE his economic policies), is just as bad as McCain for filling his campaign from top to bottom with lobbyists and wall street insiders (which usually means they WRITE his economic policies) is somewhat misleading.
L.A. Confidential @ 52:
mudshark gave you a nice compliment last night, L.A. Thread about the economy and he said you had been talking about this months ago! And so you were. Just throwing that out there for you.
And don't forget that McCain has a VERY CHECKERED past regarding business regulation with the Keating Five scandal:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joseph-romm/obama-or-527s-must-tell-k_b_12...
All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.
--Thomas Jefferson
Watch for it on FoxNews tonight:
"Ah don't see no flag pin on his'n shurt. Wotta douche!
DON'T INTERRUPT ME, BOY!
[derisive chuckle; dismissive head shake]
USA! [grunt!]
USA! [grunt!]
USA! [grunt!]"
Lather, rinse, repeat.
Different Anonymous @ 15:
Friggin' A. Nicely put.
CMINCA @ 90:
I don't know... as much as I detest Palin and part of me would have loved to see s smoking gun in her email, this strikes me as an uncool thing to do.
Different Anonymous @ 15:
Indeed I hadn't thought of that. I was worried after the Palin bounce, but my confidence is growing by the day.
After 8 years of George Bush, voting for John McCain is like changing seats on the Titanic...
Obama Laughs?
This is worrying.
If Obama and Biden snicker during the debates with McCain and Palin, the democrats will lose this election!
I'm sorry to have to point this out, but US voters aren't the brightest bulbs in the chandelier. If there is any indication of elitism by the Dems, there will be a backlash by the geniuses that graduated grade 3 from your public school system, and the election will go to the Republicans.
DON'T FUCKING LAUGH!
And now he tells us that he’s the one who’s gonna’ to take on the old boys network. The old boys network? In the McCain campaign that’s called a staff meeting.
I hereby dedicate all future attempts at snark to whoever wrote that. This alone is worth $20-$50 bucks to the campaign.
Different Anonymous @ 15 - Love the way the Obama campaign is focusing on McCain, moving Palin to the background where she belongs.
Who?
Who are you calling Old?!
jeff @ 10:
He is meeting with Carly Fiorona
Oh Joy, rapturous Joy
Obama has found an 'issue' that he can 'use to attack McCain with'. Well, honey break out the Christmas tree lights, it's party time -- Democratic Party that is.
Oh, I am so very excited that the people running this country, and running to run this country, have managed to watch our entire economy go straight to hell, and only noticed when it might provide them with some good attack fodder.
Makes me dream those daring dreams, 'bout a new day that's a comin', where people from every walk of life, are free to take the money and run, free to use vast military power in service to people who promise to keep them in Dom Perignon.
Oh, rapture, a new attack. Goody Goody. Lets all gather round and watch while rulling the world turns into an entertainment extravanganza straight from Ringling Brothers.
BigTallMatt @ 100:
It would be instructive to recall the words of investigator Pam Martens who wrote that "Seven of the Obama campaign's top 14 donors consisted of officers and employees of the same Wall Street firms charged time and time again with looting the public and newly implicated in originating and/or bundling fraudulently made mortgages." As progressive film maker and writer John Pilger has noted "A report by United for a Fair Economy, a non-profit group, estimates the total loss to poor Americans of colour who took out sub-prime loans as being between #163 bn. and $213 bn: the greatest loss of wealth ever recorded for people of colour in the United States."
Pilger went on to write in a recent article that:
"By offering a "new", young and apparently progressive face of the Democratic Party- with the bonus of being a member of the black elite- he [Obama] can blunt and divert real opposition. That was Colin Powell's role as Bush's secretary of state. An Obama victory will bring intense pressure on the US anti-war and social justice movements to accept a Democratic administration for all its faults. If this happens, domestic resistance to rapacious America will fall silent."
Many of Obama's supporters back Obama because they want to believe that Obama "might" change once he gets in office because they have "hope" that he will somehow do the right thing, despite all evidence to the contrary. Their hopes, like gossamer wings, are quite insubstantial.
I just put together a video on McCain advocating deregulation then going on CNBC blaming Democrats for the financial collapse then finished with McCain redefining 'fundamentals' to justify his statement that fundamentals are strong
Watch YouTube
jimmiraybob @ 110:
Ooh, good point. Just gave him 50.
BTW the whole speech is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6t0uEYMgFMo
ronhohn @ 115:
I think he misspoke. He meant the mental fundies -- you know, those people who are so strong they can make him choose the VP they want.
snoozer @ 117:
He actually said that suddenly 'the American people are the fundamentals'.
McCain is just tripping over his lies. "Straight bullshit Express". It is disgusting to watch the taxpayers' money being spent on cleaning up the mess of the greatest financial fraud. Meanwhile, the former executives live in their gated multi-millionaire dollar estates, private jets, private schools, etc. Time to give these republicans a kick in the ass. Wake up middle class America!
Erroll @ 114:
What exactly are you getting at? Is this your reasoning for voting for McCain? Or are you saying America would be better if Democrats split the vote with the Green Party?
There's no doubt that American leaders should receive far less money from corporate entities. But do you really think Obama could be this close to winning the election and doing anything about it if he turned down all the money John McCain is taking?
You seem to be implying that Obama couldn't possibly do anything about regulating banks or curbing lobbyist corruption, solely because he's taken money from corporations and lobbyists.
You've got to be absolutely thick to believe Obama could get into office without accepting money from corporations or help from lobbyists. But maybe once he's in office, he can do something about the corruption and reinstate some of the regulation that would protect people from corporations.
I'd certainly go with the candidate who wants to do something about regulation over the candidate who's said nothing about it.
OK. Obama's moving in the right direction on the road to learning how to effectively fight sociopaths. Sarcastic pulic ridicule is a legitimate way of piercing a lie or a maniplative deception. It's still too subtle for many of those he needs to reach, though.
#120
Why in the world would Obama, the [alleged] agent of hope and change, wish to crack down on corporate crime when he is bought and paid for the large corporations and the lobbyists? Apparently you wish to ignore what Paul Krugman has pointed out, when he wrote in a N.Y. Times piece on June 30, 2008 that Obama's policy positions during the Democratic primary "were often to the right of his rivals." Or try to pretend that Obama has ignored the obvious progressive health care solution which is a national single-payer insurance in favor of a plan which includes the insurance companies, thereby placing profits over the needs of the people. Imagining that Obama's plan to keep a residual force in Iraq even after his phased [as opposed to immediate] is supposed to be a major improvement over Bush strikes one as being quite delusional, as well as Obama's militant proposal to send even more troops into Afghanistan, which would undoubtedly end up slaughtering even more innocent Afghan civilians. Is Obama's economist, Wal-Mart friendly Austan Goolsbee, somehow supposed to conjure up visions of a genuine progressive? Do you think that Obama's support of the Patriot Act and his backing of the FISA telecom immunity bill or his vote to limit working Americans' ability to recover significant damages from criminal corporations or his reluctance to come out in support of gun control or his advocacy of the death penalty are supposed to be indicative of a true progressive?
But then, like so many blind Obama supporters, as you state in your penultimate sentence, "maybe once he's in office, he can do something".. , despite all evidence to the contrary. No matter how hard you wish and hope [to use one of Obama's favorite words], it does not change the fact that Obama is anything but progressive, proving, apparently, how successful he has been in pulling the wool over his followers' eyes. Also, despite your misguided belief, I am not a McCain supporter.
Earlier this week I commented on how they need to bring out Bill Clinton right now, to explain the differences between his administration and the current one.
I so take that back!!!!
Barack doesn't need Bill Clinton!!!! He is awesome right now in his own right!!!
BigTallMatt @ 54:
awesome! Thanks for posting this.
Erroll @ 122:
Again, I ask, what is your solution? Because you've got three choices in this election: John McCain or Barack Obama or let someone else pick the president for you.
I happen to live in a much more progressive country than the U.S. at the moment, and I've read a lot of political literature, including Chomsky, so I'm not a "blind Obama supporter" and I certainly don't believe he's the agent of radical change.
But what's your alternative? You can't possibly believe that McCain will do more than Obama to propel the country in a more progressive direction. And you can't possibly believe that voting Green (in the national election) will work in this election cycle.
So what's your solution? What would Krugman do? Certainly, despite what he wrote about Obama, he won't be voting for Kucinich.
And yes, I do believe that just because your campaign receives money from certain powerful interests, your policies when you're in office don't necessarily have to favor those interests. If he says he's prepared to do something about it, that's more than McCain has suggested he will do. He wants to give them more tax cuts.
Erroll @ 122:
So what the fuck is your point?
Listen, here in planet reality we have only 2 choices: Obama or McCain.
No it is not optimal, but what the hell is your sanctimonious bullshit supposed to accomplish, when 99% of it is directed to Obama?
McCain Attacks Wall Street Greed—While 83 Wall Street Lobbyists Work for His Campaign
Lists ALL 83.
Includes names of their corporate clients.
Consider - these are the people running his campaign.
These are the people who would be running his presidency.
For instance - sending Georgian troops to vanquish the Russian Army.
constituent @ 81:
Get a grip is right. Reid and Pelosi never once took the fight to the assholes and let the opposition set the agenda. That, my gripless friend is a fact.
Tyler Durden @ 127:
"Not optimal" Are you serious? The economy is falling apart, the incumbent has a +/-18% approval rating, the war on terror is going really badly and yet the corporate owned, free-trading centrist democrat who's up against aging right-wing nutbaggery with a beauty queen VP is behind (or tied) in the polls when he should be up by 10-15.
What's wrong with that picture?
StirFry @ 124:
Hey...You missed one. Franklin Raines.
"He is accused by The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO), the regulating body of Fannie Mae, of abetting widespread accounting errors, which included the shifting of losses so senior executives, such as himself, could earn large bonuses. On April 18, 2008, the government announced a settlement with Raines. In June 2008 Wall Street Journal reported that Franklin Raines was one of several politicians who received below market rates loans at Countrywide Financial because the corporation considered the officeholders "FOA's"--"Friends of Angelo" (Countrywide Chief Executive Angelo Mozilo). He received loans for over $3 million while CEO of Fannie Mae. In 2003 alone, Raines's compensation was over $20 million. Franklin Raines is currently one of Barack Obama's economic advisers."
Go figure.
One thing a Republican will not notice in this speech; No Teleprompter.
Trickle Down,yeah right.Personally,I'm damned tired of being trickled upon.Could we just stop the trickling?OK?
That is the first extra base hit that Obama hit all damn campaign.
He does not show himself and that might lose it for him.
In a close contest the incumbent party will cheat the winning margin.
It was not a home run but it was at least a triple and Jose Reyes
would score from first. He needs more humor and wood on the ball.
Sounds like Obama is the running the Straight Talk Express now.
woody, tokin librul @ 96:
I heard that Hillary backed out because the McSame campaign wanted to snap pictures of her and Palin together at the event to try to sell Palin as an equivalent alternative to Hillary as if they were "friends" and on the same level.
McCain's gonna take on the Old Boyz network?
I share Obama's skepticism. When is McCain gonna fit in time to do that? He's still yelling at clouds and licking his wounds over "The View".
Wait, I know what McCain wants to do! He's gonna send a "surge" to Wall St.
There you go, McCain! Fight them here so we don't have to fight them...here...
#130- Johnny2Bad
Well said. If Obama had an ounce of brains as well as integrity he would be running very much to the left of McCain. But like Kerry in 2004 the corporately-owned Obama refuses to do so and, as you correctly point out, is suffering the consequences in the polls. This simply reinforces Gore Vidal's belief that there is a one party system in this country composed of the Democrats and the Republicans. As this book makes perfectly clear, the Democrats, for all their pretensions for being a party of peace, have always been just as militaristic and just as bellicose as their political counterparts.
http://www.amazon.com/Savage-Mules-Democrats-Endless-War/dp/1844672654
Left&Left @ 6:
Just love that Obama dude, he sounds and looks a winner, all class .As is well known, class will beat arse any time. The more that bimbo from just accross from Russia opens her bullshit mouth, the more the crap she expounds. What a ridiculous pair and this is the proposed President and VP the Republicans want to run the most powerful nation on the planet!!!!!! Bloody hell. What a formidable team on the world stage, America will be laughed at from Moscow to Paris to Canberra and all in between. For the good of the reputation of this country its to be hoped Americans come to their senses come election day and see what a threat McCant and the liar from Alaska would be.
Fritz @ 136:
I think we may be comin down a bit hard on Hillary...she ducked out of that event with damn good reason I say.
And she's campaigned in Florida...bringing Obama to a tie with McBain...that's nothin to be taken lightly, as my state is chock full of wing nuts.
She's going to bat for Obama, just not in the spotlight so much. Just my two cents.
That was good, that was very good. Keep rolling O.
Obama is playing the same gutter politics he used against Hillary. He inferred that the Clintons were racists and used sexist attacks against Hillary and now he is accusing McCain of racism and using ageism attacks against him.
Obama is a low life scumbag and you "enlightened" left wing loons support this sh*t.
Obama attacked Hillary's sex and he attacks McCain's age, but if God forbid, someone even mentions that Obama is Black, then that person is really, really bad (unless they are John Kerry, Joe Biden and Claire McCaskill).
Isn't it really telling that the man who spent 20 years listening to his "Pastor" call White people "the root of all evil" amongst other racists slurs, is also the man who attacks his opponents by their age and gender?
It should be.
Wake the hell up!
I used to be one of you people for years, but this election really opened my eyes. I no longer want anything to do with you scumbags.
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