Paul Begala Rips Carly Fiorina
By SilentPatriot Tuesday Sep 16, 2008 9:45am
On Tuesday, McCain's Chief Economic Adviser Carly Fiorina told Andrea Mitchell that both Sarah Palin and John McCain were unqualified to run a major corporation. Later in the day on "Hardball," Paul Begala went to town on Fiorina, arguing that she is a massive incompetent who couldn't even run Hewlett-Packard herself.
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"The more Carly Fiorina speaks for McCain the better it is for Obama because she's an idiot. [...] Incompetent; Idiot is the wrong word."
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Paul hit the nail on the head with that comment. She is the perfect spokesgerm for the McBush campaign. Keep it up .
Miss Alaska (runner up)/McBush 08
No offense to Paul Begala, but a full Senate Judiciary Committee with Mueller is streaming live here:
http://judiciary.senate.gov/hearings/hearing.cfm?id=3530
CSPAN has blown this hearing off. They will be asking questions about the new FBI spying guidelines and the anthrax hoo-hah.
(BTW....Begala and Carville should be leading Obama's efforts right now. Things would be very different if they were.)
Fun to see one of the little Tuckers..Tucker I now down to word mincing. Talk about someone who's ready to wave good bye.
Palin knows how to run her mouth.
I saw that yesterday, Begala called her an idiot and incompetent. Good stuff.
WTF is Teddy Ruxpin doing on the teevee and why does he keep shouting over other people?
Isn't Teddy of military service age? What's he - oh, never mind.
"She's no idiot", said the Idiot.
My favorite part is how Tucker's sole victory in that exchange was to get Begala to say that she wasn't REALLY an idiot, just completely incompetent.
Fiorina is a lightly talented corporate poseur. A victim of excessive career-coaching, she substituted attitude for smarts in "running" (ruining?) HP. The fact that McCain chose her to be such a high-profile surrogate illustrates his poor judgment.
Ed @ 8:
Yes, and then he seemed to nod in agreement that she was incompetent. Tucker gets his monthly check mark.
Now if you got some video of Begala kicking James Carville in the balls, that would be great!
This is for sleeping with that nasty whore of a repuke hag, you bald ugly hack!
love that last jab by begala, "neither was ms. fiorina qualified to run hewlett-packard."
begala should be working for the obama campaign, if he isn't already.
Didn't Fiorina also walk away from H-P with a LARGE settlement? And she has been criticizing these bank failures because of the CEO greed!!!
How terribly sexist to call an incompetent woman incompetent
Even right wingers have to see that cutting taxes didn't and won't work, and that it's the official McAyn mantra. Carly had to admit that even as she was being thrown under that bus (with her golden parachute tangled in the axles).
Why knock Fiorina down? I personally like keeping the meme that McPalin couldn't run a Fortune 500 company. It hurts McCain a lot more than Obama. The Repubs will trash her on their own, so why help them?
Can't remember where I read this, but I did read that some of Carly's scheduled appearances on other shows have been canceled. I guess she has to stand in the corner for a few days and think about the things she said.
Gotta agree with Paul, she does appear to be a true idiot and whoever brought her into the McCain camp just might be one too.
Begala's glass house, please meet rock.
Paul Begala making nice with Donna Brazile
BEGALA: We cannot win with egg heads.
Let me finish my point.
"We cannot win with egg heads and African-Americans. OK, that is the
Dukakis Coalition, which carried ten states and gave us four years of
the first George Bush."........
Read on as he swallows his entire foot.....
- - - - - - -
Begala has a complete laundry list of reasons he should pause before he calls anyone an idiot or an incompetent.
Groovy
Tucker isn't qualified to open his mouth. Didn't they fire him for a reason?
Liar would be more accurate.
Here's an interesting read.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/17/1409425.aspx
Tucker "we're all going to get fired anyway, we might as well tell the truth". that was the great statement here. Matthews laughs and then I believe says "now there is a terrific statement"
Kathleen @ 22:
Can't tell whether Matthews said "horrific" or "terrific" statement
Wait?
She works for his campaign and she's saying he can't do jack shit?
That's good, isn't it?
c. atrox @ 4:
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Carly Fiorina is the quintessential MBA rethuglican. Here's a timeline of her career in a nutshell:
a. Hewlett Packard is a highly profitable corporation
b. Carly Fiorina is named CEO
c. HP profits go into the tank
d. HP board of directors express their disapproval of her management of the company
e. Carly Fiorina's reply to the HP board of directors is, "I'm rubber and you're glue" (I'm paraphrasing here)
f. Ms. Fiorina is asked to share responsibilities with a team of managers.
g. Ms. Fiorina tries to save her job by spreading ugly rumors about those managers and leaking information about HP's problems to the Wall Street Journal
h. As punishment, HP board of directors force her to resign with a measly $21 MM severance package.
i. Ms. Fiorina goes into hiding for a few years
j. In 2008, Ms. Fiorina returns triumphantly to the national scene as a high level advisor to McCain campaign
Yeah, things are working out real well.......
Fiorina is perfect for the modern bug-em-all Republican Party.
Google Query: Fiorina HP WireTap
She didn't just leave Hewlett Packard. She was forced out. It's a nice way of saying she got fired. But she did have a golden parachute. Somewhere around 20 million I think.(I could be wrong about that)
So she collects a huge salary while screwing up a a company, runs it into the ground, and then gets a huge payoff at the end.
No, she's not an idiot. But she is a liar and incapable of being a ceo.
How the hell did she get that job in the first place?
Tony @ 25:
Yellow Elephant Safari @ 26:
I always thought she was a strange surrogate for the McCrazy campaign, and even more ironic that she would claim that nobody in the race has the experience to be a CEO since it's fairly clear, based on her track record, that she doesn't either.
The Republican ticket would be much more representative of their 'base' if they replaced McOld with Ms. Fiorina.
I see F**ker Carlson didn't get any smarter since he lost his place at the Korporate Media trough. He's still a diehard Reich winger!
Begala should be on TV and Radio a lot more. This was good!!
Carlson takes the typical republicant view that people are a success because of the money they made. It doesn't matter that they might engage in criminal behavior (Bush / Cheney) or tank the company they are running (Carly Fiorina).
Only in Korporate Amerika can a CEO tank the company and walk away with over 40 million in severance and bonuses. That to a Republicant is success.
Look at the economy. They still believe it is fundamentally sound, because they’re still making money!
as incompetent as fiorina was .. she'd be a better VP candidate than Mittens.
COMPAQ... what a brilliant thing to waste all of HP's money on
Tony @ 25:
I always said they should have named San Jose's Compaq Center the Carly Fi-Arena ...
chris [not the troll] @ 31:
That's the corporatist base. The xian base would be better represented if they nominated Pope Sixtus IV.
true to form carlson brings zero to the discussion. what a dorkwad, even without the bowtie.
She's an idiot with a 21 million golden parachute. Talk about dumb luck. But why is she even on TV talking about politics??? What is she now exactly????
happy @ 39:
Filthy Rich.
Having Fiorina say negative things about Obama doesn't bother me a bit, given her track record.
But check out Obama's new two-minute ad--totally focused on the economy, and running in all battleground states today. No music, no voice-over, no weird pictures of John McCain. Just total specifics and a bi-partisan appeal. Awesome! Finally, a kick-ass ad! (Link to follow.)
I am not a republican and am not voting for McCain, I would not soil my hands to vote for obama, I am going to vote for Cynthia McKinney.
But what I can't understand is how these people go apecrap because people have the good sense not to vote for obama and want to vote for a republican..Isn't this still a free country. Is everyone supposed to bow down and kiss the ground this liar obama walks on. I can't wait til the 24th of September when he has to produce all the records he DOESN'T HAVE.
Don't worry as long as your money is in an FDIC bank your SaFe.
The FDIC has a whopping $50 Billion to cover approx $1 Trillion of depositors money.
Paul Begala always comes across as the drab weak ineffectual Democratic. To the average Tweety viewer, Begala is the perfect straight-man for idiot gas bag Tucker.
Thank the heavens for Keith Olbermann, and Rachael Maddow.
*****
Yet, Begala was right about Carly Fiorina. She is the epitome of what's wrong about corporate America. Fiorina took HP, one class act of a tech company, and turned HP into a shadow of its former self. How did that Compaq merger pan out? Anything new lately from the famed HP research and development, or was that sliced and diced and shipped overseas?
RobertD @ 41:
Here's the link. Check it out. Hopefully C & L can put it up. Combined with Fiorina's crash-and-burn and McCain's late-night flip-flop on regulation, this should play well.
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/in_twominute_ad_...
Marge @ 42:
factcheck.org
L.A. Confidential @ 43:
Approx 1000 banks are on thin ice.
Were heading for interesting times.
Marge @ 42:
Yeah, I believe you.....
Yellow Elephant Safari @ 26:
Great synopsis, but you left out her early years. Let's not forget Ms. Fiorina's 1st hatchet job - Lucent. Remember when Lucent was Wall Street's darling? A sleeker, more agile, more innovative offspring of Ma Bell? Ms. Fiorina was one of the top Execs of the fledgling enterprise and what did she decide to do with those million of man hours invested to bring about discoveries like the laser, the transistor, and Unix? Fire the lot of em ... because there are people in India who will work for 1/6th of what American engineers will! Oh and the intellectual property rights that alone should have allowed Lucent to limp on for centuries on nothing but patent royalties? Fire Sell!!!!! Make the market numbers look good so people like Ms. Fiorina can make their million dollar bonuses while the engineers, technical staff, and retirees that MADE THE COMPANY get exactly this - jack shit. These people should be tied to a stake and burned alive because they are most certainly possessed by evil.
And no one gives a sh*t!
liberAL @ 13:
$40 million severance for running HP into the ground.
"Let's buy Hewlett Packard"
"My only regret is I didn't fire more people sooner"
Marge @ 42:
If I hold my breath long enough, will this make sense and seem on-topic?
Seemed like Tucker did a bit of backpeddling after the "idiot" statement. Correct me if i'm wrong.
dennis @ 18:
... said the village idiot in this forum.
I'm sorry, but did Tucker really say he was "incompetent?" It's about time he acknowledged a fact we've all know for quite some time. Even MSNBC recognized that fact. Why else cancel his show and demote him to "reporter" status?
Okay, okay. I know it's taken out of context. I don't care.
This morning on Morning Joe, also could be named, Fox and Friends, they were ripping Obama's new two minute ad all to hell. Joe seems to think he is the all knowing guru of political campaigns. Funny, if he knows so damned much campaigns why hasn't McCain snapped him up as an adviser?
.."In the wake of the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and AIG bailouts, Paulson was flooded with calls."
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2008/09/dont-worry-banking-sy...
July 21, 2008
Paulson: U.S. Banking System Fundamentally Sound
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com
mccainhater @ 53:
He should backpedal over the nearest cliff.
Remember when Tucker ripped Jon Stewart a new one for not asking the "hard-hitting" questions? On a freaking comedy show?
Kathleen @ 22:
That's the comment which stood out for me as well. The pipsqueak is sometimes almost likable when he turns down his volume a little.
My wife (who's not nearly as political as I am) was watching with me and asked why other dems didn't go after Cons like that. I told her becasue he's one of the few Dems out there with a pair.
Last time I checked the DOW was down today over 200 pts. What's it gonna take to stop the bleeding? Has anyone asked Palin what we should do right now?
Marge @ 42:
Republicans, you sure are getting desperate. LOL.
Marge @ 42:
If your head wasn't stuffed so far up the elephant's ass you would understand why no one wants to let this gang of evil criminals do any more damage to the country like they have for the past 40 years...if you had any intellectual honesty or integrity that point would be very clear to you.
F.B.I Mueller testifying right now.
Oversight of the F.B.I.
http://judiciary.senate.gov/hearings/hearing.cfm?id=3530
Tucker is such a toolbag. "She doesn't know anything about computers....that's why she (Palin) wouldn't be qualified". Wasn't the point, Tucker, was it? I don't think you need to be an IT guy to run a corporation, you need to be able to run the corporation.
McCain is an allegory for his entire party...bereft of ideas, old, tired, past its time, no creativity, backwards 19th century thinking, hypocritical and totally unequipped to lead a nation into the 21st Century.
pissed off patricia @ 56:
I'm thinking Angry Joe may be an outlier on this one. The ad addresses the current financial crisis with specificity, which is exactly what the network bobbleheads have been asking for. He doesn't attack anyone, and it directly speaks to what's going on.
NEVER interfere with one's adversaries when they are committing fratricide.
Carly Fiorina didn't do such a great job with HP, that is why they bounced her, BUT SHE KNOWS AN INCOMPETENT WHEN SHE SEES ONE.
OR TWO
Like John McCain and Sarah Her-fifteen-minutes-is-up-anyway.
For CRYING OUT LOUD!
Let Carly talk, she is doing your work for you.
DUMBASS.
If Fiorina is "incompetent", what does that say about McCain's judgment on economics for putting her in such a position of expertise?
Fanon @ 65:
It's certainly helpful to know something about computers if you're the CEO of a major computer company.
And the fact is, Fiorina was an abysmal boss for HP. Ask anyone who works or worked there. The only redeeming factor is that her successor Patricia Dunn was even worse. If Fiorina had been a competent HP CEO, she'd probably be at the top of another Fortune 500 company now, instead of writing her memoirs and 'advising' McCain.
And if Palin had been a competent politician, she wouldn't have an ethics investigation coming after her.
Did'nt McCain hire Carly Fiorina? What does this say about him?
Unlike the new passiveness of Clintonite James Carville, I've seen Begala really step it up on behalf of Obama -on every channel. And he's got just the right message needed to take the frost off Obama's campaign .
VIVA BEGALA AND VIVA MORE COW BELL !!
Marge @ 42:
There's no way you're voting for Cynthia McKinnie. Why lie?
Liberal AND Proud @ 66:
you forgot "white"
liberAL @ 13:
She walked away with $21,000,000.
She said “There is no job that is America's God-given right anymore.” This is McBush’s other economic advisor. Phil Gramm (Nation of Whiners) is the other advisor who is responsible for this meltdown. “She's even been mentioned as a possible McCain running mate.”
"The article suggested that HP and other countries were skirting export controls to trade with Iran."
"The day she was dumped, the company's stock price rose 7 percent. That was Wall Street exclaiming, Hooray... The Street had lost all faith in her and the market's hope is that anyone will be better."
Ed @ 8:
How about Tucker's comment at the end..."We are all going to get fired anyway so might as well tell the truth." Telling???? on the goings on at MSNBC
I meant "pasty white"
Alexdem @ 70:
Fiorina was most certainly abysmal. I guess it would be helpful to know something about computers, it also would be helpful to know something about marketing, strategy, planning for revenue, investment etc. I don't know that it would be imperative that I knew how to fix or build a computer to run a company like that, on that level. Now, if I was running a start up, absolutely.
Palin, who's that? blip
Tucker Carlson is the not first image I want to see when I wake up in the morning.
Isome Hussein @ 73:
I don't think Marge is lying. I think she is probably very serious. However, it's mostly because Hillary didn't win and she is pouting.
Fiorina also got 20 mil or so in stock options, on top of the severance...read the fine print.
Liberal AND Proud @ 66:
Which appeals to the Murking Middull Class, which wants NOTHING to do with "Change," but which clings to the status quo like religion and guns...
Gah! You should really give us some kind of warning when a clip has Tucker "I lost my bow-tie" Carlson. That's just too much for some people to handle!
apeman @ 7:
Hehehehe. Yes, I agree with you. I often use Tucker Carlson as a gage for measuring the intelligence of others, especially after he was royally bit**-slapped by Jon Stewart on the now defunct Cross-Fire. Bye-bye Tucker. You can take the same road as your bow-tie.
Fanon @ 80:
Do you mean "Anybody but a man Marge"? Is that the same Marge we all know and love?
Tucker Carlson's mistake was that he somehow judged that the country wanted a younger, dumber, less erudite, more sycophantic version of George Will...
i saw her at the RNC a couple of weeks ago introducing her chief-of-staff to some congress member's COS and i'm thinking "why on earth does a failed CEO need a COS?"
Fanon @ 80:
My candidate lost her bid; I'm gonna throw my vote away and let the Greedy Old Plutocrats finish off the SCOTUS. Then ALL women can move from second-class citizenship to third class (breeding hens) citizenship.
That'll teach 'em.
Captain Bitter Huesein Kangaroo @ 85:
Yup
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE
In case you can't ever get enough of it, Jon Stewart on Cross-Fire. A literal blast from the past.
Speaking of incompetence, McCain lawyers are trying to shutdown bi-partisan ethics investigation of Palin's Alaskan shenigans because it's tainted by politics. And McCainCo knows taint. There's no mistake it's tainted by politics now.
This economic crises reminds me of the S&L scandal in the 80's except worse. John McCain was up to his neck in that deal. Why isn't that being brought up by the Obama campaign ?
This news isn't going to help Obama.
I blame Hillary Clinton for this:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/16/prominent-clinton-backer...
Sometimes I get the idea there is something underhanded going on.
CEOs leeave or are let go with a parachute only to resurface somewhere else, at a higher salary, only to leave there too with another parachute.
Like a revolving door
Oh, and just a word on The Great Fiorina, one of the baaaad CEO's the bigger hypocrite McCain wants to get rid of, who received a severance package worth about $21.4 million, plus at least $21.1 million more.
(The additional amount reflects the estimated value of her pension, stock options and Hewlett stock holdings, which the company did not include in her severance package.)
HMMM lets debate her case scenario a little more deeply, shall we??:
To briefly discuss who would make the better leader/executive: I would compare a man who came out of nowhere and in 19 months inspired the world, broke every record in the books, including the breaking of one of the biggest political machines in the country and is still going strong on behalf of a bruised and battered nation and it's millions of innocent citizens,
VERSUS
A woman who in 6 years manage to bruise, batter and break a once world leader of the technological revolution, harming thousand of innocent citizens while walking away stocked to the brim with their life savings stuffed in her pockets.
VERSUS
A aged potted plant who sits in the same old pot year after year after year after year - while others around him dutifully dust his leaves off now and then and and keep him hydrated..
Nice strawman by Tucker, saying the only reason McCain couldn't run HP because he knows nothing about the computer industry (boy is that true!), but what she actually said is that McCain couldn't run ANY major corporation.
RE Tucker--
Somewhere, a McDonalds is missing its drive-thru window cashier...
Do you know how many corporations Mr. Begala been in charge of?
Exactly zero.
Who cares what HE says?
How's it feel Mr. Begala, watching from the cheap seats?
In a truly free society government CAN'T be allowed to be run "like" a business, because government INHERENTLY monopolizes anything that it touches. That's why the Framers intended for the government to do very little...
So much for THAT idea.
Make no mistake folks, it's not the Federal government that's buying up America for pennies on the dollar. It's the FEDERAL RESERVE, which is owned by PRIVATE BANKERS, that is buying up our assets at rock-bottom prices. Assets that, BEFORE they became homes, were just empty, undeveloped parcels of land. Now, the Federal Reserve is buying up all the markers on all the developed property that THEY created through a credit bubble. And they only had to put up ONE NINTH of the total principle!
THEY will be able to sell off these now-developed properties. And if they sell them for at least ONE NINTH of the original principle, then they come out ahead... and everyone else will have their credit ratings, and their financial futures ruined.
It's the biggest THEFT in the history of the world! And you people worry about whether your future President is going to LOOK "corporate" enough?
Wake up people.
Earl Scheib @ 9:
Well put. She's the personification of a certain ethos prevalent at least in Northern VA.
Incompetent and idiot are both words that could be used to describe Fiorina. Words like stupid, overpaid, moron, and sociopath, are also words that describe this nut job!
CMINCA @ 90:
Can't thank you enough for this post.
hello @ 101:
Unfortunately, nothing in the media has improved since this interview, except the cancellation of Crossfire.
gwen @ 96:
Well, in all honesty Fiorina, I think, is/was a history/art major. Which obviously made her amply qualified to run one of the most prestigious (at the time) technology firms in the USA.
A side effect of this mess, is that in this country we need to start asking for accountability to this whole MBA/professional CEO class. There is something wrong when these people get to screw with people's livelihoods, costing the taxpayer billions of dollars, and they not only get zero accountability... they get a golden parachute of millions and most likely another shot at doing the same at a different company. How can a person be sent to jail for years because of drugs, and these people whose screw ups have far worse (as in orders of magnitude worse) effect on the society... get to walk scott free and making a mint in the process.
twocanpete @ 100:
... and all those words could be used to describe Bush.
Mick Piobr @ 88:
No, I think she's lying because Cynthia McKinnie is a progressive's progressive and Hillary is a hawkish and has neoliberal tendencies. Plus, I suspect the biggest objection Marge has to Obama is what he has in common w/ Cynthia McKinnie.
Throwing Cynthia's name out there was an attempt to deflect attention from her real objections to Obama.
Is there A 527 underwritten by union members?
They need to do an ad highlighting Phil Gramm's antic financial beliefs which helped bring about this current crisis, topped off by his "whiners" comment.
Then highlight Fiorina's disasterous tenures at Lucent and HP, where her brilliant business savvy consisted of firing Americans and sending their jobs overseas.
Make sure to quote her "There is no job that is America's God-given right anymore" quote as an explanation for why she fired Americans and gave their jobs to Indians.
Then make sure her remark "I only wish I'd fired more people" is quoted while reminding people that thank God she didn't get a chance, because HP fired her after she dragged their stock down 60%.
Isome Hussein @ 105:
You mean, he's a man.
Isome Hussein @ 105:
I love Marge's projection exercises. Right wing trolls sure are the gift that keeps on giving regarding pathological psychology case studies.
One of my best friends was laid off at HP soon after Fiorina got her hands on the company. He died of a stroke--still unemployed--three years later. (Not entirely her fault, I realize... but still.)
OT--
The pastor whose prayer Sarah Palin says helped her to become governor of Alaska founded his ministry with a witchhunt against a Kenyan woman who he accused of causing car accidents through demonic spells.
http://streetknowledge.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/wtf-governor-palin-linke...
Yellow Elephant Safari @ 37:
No need to call on a medieval, pre-scientific religionist for representation. The anti-human, hate-filled monstrosity that now occupies the papal throne is all of this and a former Hitler Youth. Benedict is the archetypal pope. Can't be beat.
woody, tokin librul @ 86:
I didn't even think that was possible -- George Will set the bar so low.
I was hoping someone with a little cred would point this out. Every time Fiorina's onscreen I find myself shrieking at the TV "Why is she an authority on anything? She was a failure!! Why why why??? WTF????" and so forth.
James @ 98:
And "THEY" are run by who exactly??
You better hope Begala keeps talking because we all damn well know Palin or McCain won't give a sh** about your "credit rating." People like them eat the financially ruined for breakfast!!
Neo-classical secular humanist @ 111:
Yeah, but lots of kids were Hitler Youth. It was like being in the Boy Scouts. Not saying he ain't a right bastard, but figured there oughta be a little clarity there.
Tyler Durden @ 103:
You'd think that while she was at HP, they'd have at least worked on perfecting the counterfeiting of money using their copiers.
Here's the orange alert. U.S. Embassy in Yemen apparent target of attack that kills 16 http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-yemen18-2008sep18,0,...
Didn't see that coming.
This kind of language is symptomatic of a larger problem with American political discourse, and it makes me even more certain that most television news programs have a deleterious effect on our culture. Calling someone "stupid" and "incompetent" helps no one, even if there's some truth in it.
Every time I hear something like this I picture Bill Moyers. I think every television network should have wristbands that say WWBMD. What would Bill Moyers do? Maybe I should market them? Eh... I don't think I'd get many buyers.
So...once again...the GOP holds the world's biggest orgy, all paid for by the American public, ruin the budget...and of course...after the parade is over...the Democrats (the REAL party of grownups, fiscal responsiblity, social responsibility and common sense) will come in and clean up after the elephant.
JoeSixPack @ 117:
Sometimes, you have to call a spade a spade.
Yellow Elephant Safari @ 37:
Wrong, there are few things their "christian" base hates more than them papists.
JoeSixPack @ 117:
I hear you-- and I'd buy one of those wristbands.
CMINCA @ 102:
Too bad Mr. Stewart couldn't have also appeared on Meet The Press in time.
Tim Russert might still be alive today.
God, I'm beginning to believe that naming your child "tucker" is a real curse.
I've been saying this about "carly the hatchet" since she hit the scene. What makes anyone want to listen to anything she has to say??? The facts brought up about her butchering of HP are exactly 100% true. She screwed the company, screwed the employees, raped the stock...and she managed to walk away (or get canned rather) with a nice hefty bonus for being the hatchet bitch to a once prosperous company.
She may not be an idiot, because she was smart enough to walk away with a damn good chunk of change, but she certainly f*cked over the company and the thousands of employees that worked for HP.
Those are facts....and yet mcIdiot has her as a consultant?...or some such role? This is absurd. Just one more example of how desperate and ignorant john mcOld is.
Ask any tech person who either worked for Hewlett-Packard or worked with Hewlett-Packard hardware and software. Paul Begala had it right if he combined both descriptions of her.
Carly Fiorina is an Incompetent Idiot.
darn. Would have loved to have seen that, but I can't stand Blitzer so I don't watch CNN...
however, have to admire Fiorina's brass....complaining about the CEO's greed....when after running HP to the gutter, showing so many workers the door....and getting a total of $42M in a parachute.....
gotta love it.
Tyler Durden @ 103:
If you are interested, get your hands on a book by John Ralston Saul, "Voltaire's bastards: the dictatorship of reason". Saul is a brilliant Canadian social critic and philosopher. At the very least, his ideas on the evolution of the technocrats and the failed managerial class in the West and how they have resulted in the rise of the displacement a citizen-based democracy with self-serving courtiers.
Fiorina better watch her step...there's space available in Palin's trophy room
between the moose head and a stuffed librarian.
she deserves all that and more, the filthy whore.
I can't believe that any network would give her even 30 seconds of air time..
Wait, yes I can.
C'mon ..
Carli was incompetent to run a corporation, right?
So Carli KNOWS corporate incompetence when she sees it.
Right?
He's right..she is an idiot. For whatever native intelligence she started with, she made herself retarded with her arrogance, intellectual dishonesty and perpetual foolishness. A drooling idiot. Had she any competence, she'd still be at HP.
James @ 98:
and therefore what?
does carly have any credibility? no
that is what begala is saying, and it is a reflection upon the mccain campaign
we all know that running the government is not like running a company....its much harder
Forge @ 112:
She's an authority because she's on TV, duh.
If the media used a shred of judgment and refused her airtime, we would have to listen to a solid week of screaming about sexism and media bias.
liberAL @ 13:
Large is a gross understatemt...........That wench sucked about 321 MILLION IN SEVERENCE PAY......a human most vile, indeed.
McCain has chosen to SELL HIS SOUL FOR A CHANCE to be the figure head of the REPUBLICON CRIME UNIT..........that's why HIS FAMILY DOESN'T EVEN RECOGNIZE HIM any longer.
He's morphed into this freak..........personally, I think he may have been brainwashed. It wouldn't take much to manipulate him into believing that he must gain control of the country at any and all costs.
Surrealistic?? Maybe, maybe not.
I have to turn my head when this woman speaks.............she is A VAPID, VACANT, EMPTY, SOUL........SHE LIVES FOR AND WORSHIPS AT THE ALTER OF $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
Power to the Peaceful~
Liberals,
You know what's funny about this? Most of you probably have yet to see the entire interview with Carly Fiorina. That interview with Mitchell was a Hack Job to fit an agenda. Now that is Liberal Journalism at it's best. What a joke. If Obama wins the election, MSNBC will be out of business. Who will they attack?
Bert @ 134:
You forgot the 'they hate us for our freedom' line.
L.A. Confidential @ 47:
Yup. Scary, scary shit. Housing is still falling, bank balance sheets are getting worse and the US recession is only beginning.
There's only one saving grace to this. According to an article I read a few days ago (not just somebody's blog, either - and sorry, I don't have a link), if the S&P 500 declines in the six months before an election, there is an 80% probability that the incumbent party loses the White House. The opposite also holds true: if the index rises in the same time period, there's an 80% chance the incumbents win.
S&P500 close, May 2, 2008: 1,413.90
Latest quote today: 1,167.32
That's a decline of 17.4%, with only 6 weeks to go before the election.
Bert @ 134:
Does Ernie know you're using the Kaypro?
What is this Crossfire reunion shtick? Sorry, Chris, but you're no Jon Stewart.
chris [not the troll] @ 135:
Chris I like the "not the troll" comment. If you're not agreeing with all of the liberals, you're a troll on these sites. What the hell are they?
It is a requirement to be a babbling idiot if your name happens to be Tucker?
The Fundamentally Strong Rusty Shackleford @ 137:
LOL.
Hey, Bert, better look at that interview again. Andrea Mitchell didn't raise the subject of whether the Repub candidates could run companies. She merely asked about Fiorina's comment about Palin on a prior radio interview. And then Fiorina stepped further into the shit with her unsolicited comment that McCain couldn't run a company either.
She stuffed that foot down her throat all by herself. Good thing for her that she got $21 mill when HP fired her. Who'd hire her, other than the Republican Party?
Bert @ 139:
We call 'em like we see 'em Bert.
So...when every network had similar "hack job" interviews with Democrats, it was cool?
Now that it's happening to the fascist GOP spokespeople...it's wrong?
Kurt @ 140:
Nope...but it damn sure don't hurt!
tucker carlson should tuck his vagina between his legs and sit
down hard.
liberalNmoderation @ 143:
I think it's a chicken-and-egg situation.
Well, mostly what I'm getting out of this tempest in a teapot is the fact that Fiorina evidently didn't hold the RNC annointed ones in high enough 'deference'.... So... It's under the bus for you Carly.... boo fricken hoo.... No friends to stick by ya Ms. big shot.. Well except for little Tucker the boy dolt... He would apparently try to defend her if he could just form a coherent thought...... My final thought on this travesty of 'justice' heheh is a plea to the retardican bus driver... Please do back up once you're done and make sure the job is done... Shouldn't be too hard, you people have shown a real knack for destroying people and things in the past, and I'm pretty sick of seeing this particular skinny assed harpy trying to schmooze her way back onto the national stage..... Finish her off so she goes away from the national scene for good...... thanks in advance; JD
liberalNmoderation @ 142:
So you're admitting that it was a "hack job" that you are jumping all over?
Bert @ 147:
Don't put words in my mouth Bert.
I admitted nothing like that. I was quoting YOU!
Tucker (who I think is a REAL idiot) actually makes a good point about HP. Sure, none of the candidates have the skills to run HP (could McCain make the decision to abandon the relationship with Intel over Itanium for instance? The man can't even pronounce "email" right! But that's not what Carly said. She may have been thinking of her own horrible performance at HP though... No mater. The McCain campaign is imploding. I don't see him polling better than 40% in two weeks. Only the dead-enders are going so support him! The only thing that could save McCain now would be for Bush to be holding Bin Laden in Afghanistan and on Oct23rd, announce to the world that he was captured.
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