Mark Halperin claims McCain won the week
By SilentPatriot Thursday Sep 18, 2008 6:40pm
Nevermind the dramatic shift in the polls and the beating McCain endured all week on the single most crucial of the election. Mark Halperin says McCain won, so therefore McCain won.
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His head is full of marbles so it must be true!
Yeah McPain surely won... that's why he is doing so well in the polls!
Well, that does it then. Just shut down the campaigns and declare McCain the winner!
(yawn)
well Halperin <333 McCain, so no surprise here. It's not like he's objective about it.
So who's Mark Halperin? Who cares what he says?
If this is the week McCain won, I'd hate to see the week he lost.
GOP= Black is White, White is Black and McCain won this week
No matter that Obama is back to his lead
These guys are unbelievable.
ROFL
McCain might have won this week, but his campaign is full of Win. :lol:
Andrew @ 5:
You beat me to it.
Good. Let them believe what they like, if it makes them happy.
He's tossing bread to the herd during breaks in the action.
Right. McCain was leading in the polls at this time last week, while Obama has since gained back to the lead he had before the GOP convention.
And in that context.. Halperin deems that McCain is the one who has momentum? I wonder if he didn't write this whole thing earlier?
Also: "Economy", "Momentum", "Image", "Tactics". What the heck kind of 'issues' are those? Obama's only 'win', Economy, is an actual issue..
Jo @ 9:
And you beat me to beating me to it.
Seriously, though. Who is he? Never heard of him.
how did he get into harvard? ever since the conservatives jumped him he seems to have been lost to the dark side. gotta be the israel thing. afraid obama won't staunchly defend them from iran.
Ummm- has anyone else seen the bullshit on Politico link to CNN where 10/13 protesters interrupted Obama's speech for Women/Equality Issues in Florida. Now CNN makes it a point to focus on them - their signs all look written by the same person...they are "blacks against Obama" and they seem to be all male. I dunno - scratching my head - when protesters interrupt mccain - do they mention they are "whites against Mccain"?
We have just been swindled to the tune of TWO TRILLION DOLLARS brought to you by the Republicans.
Remember George Bush? The Swindler in Chief.
How can you forget the bastard, he has swindled us for TRILLIONS upon TRILLIONS.
His sorry ass can't be out of there soon enough, too bad we can't cut off his head to wave it around as a souvenir.
The Republicans should all be in hiding for what they have done.
Rasputin @ 2:
FIFY!
Alexdem @ 12:
Let's hope he isn't one of them counting the votes Nov. 4th and 5th.
Mark, word of advice...
Step away from the crack pipe! Just say NO!
If McStain won the week, it is only at the expense of the American people. His lobbyist BFFs who have made huge chunks of money lobbying for deregulation sure won the last 8 years.
Please keep believing that McStain won the week. Obama will win the election! Then we all win!
But really, step away from the pipe!
PEACE
Jo @ 9:
A person who thinks that since he writes for TIME that we should believe his analysis and not our lying eyes.
Whatever, McPalin got his @$$ handed to him this week. The icing on the cake was Caribou Barbie referring to the Republican ticket as the "Palin-McCain Administration."
Robert D @ 13:
Sounds like an angry old white guy who has lost a bundle this week and wants to take it out on the rest of us. Oh, insert the word stupid in there somewhere, too.
I'm convinced you are being set up for another stolen election. That's why they have to keep the two campaigns "TIED" in the polls, in a very unbelievable fashion. I doubt very much anyone will know who the new president is on November 5th, unless Obama does get a landslide victory, so much so that no amount of "fudging" can negate it.
I just can't believe Americans are that stupid, to vote GOP, even though these last 8 years you've done everything in your power to make me believe you are (as always, not C&L-ers.)
Could someone hook me up with whatever drugs he's on?
WHAT are they going to do when he drops dead?
$10 says he does it on camera. Any takers?
Did Halperin say what McCain won at?
Smearing Obama and Shoveling shit --- McCain won that hands down, without a doubt
But I liked what Chris Dodd said about the republican policy: "Privatized Wealth, Socialized Debt"
McCain did take a beating with all the Obama lies thrown at him, but he will come out on top when the truth prevails on this financial crisis. Obama will look pretty greedy and corrupt for his part in it all.
McCAIN REPEATEDLY WARNED OF THIS CRISIS AND TRIED TO PASS LEGISLATION TO PREVENT IT.
"I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole." -Sen. John McCain
OBAMA TOOK MORE LOBBYI$T MONEY THAN ANY OTHER SENATOR. INCLUDED IN THOSE MILLION$ WAS MONEY FROM HIS FRIEND AND ADVISOR FRANKLIN RAINES AT FANNIE MAE WHO MADE $90 MILLION HIMSELF. OBAMA WAS PAID TO STOP McCAIN'S LEGISLATION SO THE CORRUPTION COULD CONTINUE. HE DID.
Hillary 2012 @ 27:
Is that you Billo?
Hillarious 2012
You smell bad.
Edwin Hussein @ 23:
All they want in life is one house, some kids, a job, season tickets to football or nascar, a neighborhood bar, a new pickup, and "safety".
That's the high ideal. The highest level of cosmic achievement in the Pub Bot realm.
Hillary 2012 @ 27:
Link, verification or just a loud keypuncher?
Wow. Most people have to work to seem that out of touch.
Elliott @ 4:
HE IS A REPUBLICAN ASS KISSER. DON'T YOU SEE THE BROWN SPOT ON HIS NOSE?
WHO YOU GONNA BELIEVE? WHAT WE SEE WITH OUR OWN EYES OR THE EMPEROR WHO DOESN'T WEAR CLOTHS.
Got.... to.... maintain.... horserace..... Scotty, I need more power.....
Captain, She given all she can.....
Captain, the media narrative is collasping.....
Bones do something!
Damn it Jim, I'm a Doctor not Mark Halperin!
Um, who's Mark Halperin?
I just heard both EJ Dionne and David Brooks on NPR agree that Obama won the week.
No, it's McCain wins the "weak".
Yeah, McCain lost 9 points and claimed the economy is just honky dory. But he had an easier time peeing last night, so it's a wash.
jitter @ 35:
Mark Halperin use to be "political director" on ABC and now hacks for Time I think.
Jo @ 22:
Ditto
Mark Halperin Blows Goats...
Hillary 2012 @ 27:
your the same idiot that was just on the CNN site - troll some where else- YOUR AN IDIOT- tell me dumbass what the hell is mccain gonna do for you BEFORE you think Hillary will make into the white house and what if by your vote mccain rolls back everything hillary fought for - where will your vote be then?
Yeah, Mark Halperin... get real!
What I find most disturbing about McCain's pani epsches is that there are people who cheer him on. That is frightening.
Alice X - (Chomsky Nader) - status quObama - change you can pretend in - @ 16:
They should have their wealth which was created by ill gotten means confiscated from them like property is seized and forfeited from average people by cops "fighting" the "drug war". Of course the seizure of property was supposed to punish the "drug overlords", but it is used to oppress the people and empower the jackboots. It is time for the greedy bastards to taste their own medicine. Don't dish it out if you can't take it, I say. These greedy bastards need to be impoverished and put in prison for theft and brought up on charges of treason for bringing our nation to the precipice of collapse. This should apply to all those motherfuckers who are getting tens and hundreds of millions in bonuses for wrecking the ship of state and running us aground.
Hillary 2012 @ 27:
Ewwwwww... I smell troll! Hillary2012... Eff off!
Who the hell is Mark Helperin?
In the full graphic on the Time site, I love that Palin is riding that lipstick like a witch on a broom!!!
Heather Mallick, of the CBC (Canadian Broadcast Corporation) adds her two cents (which have FUX issuing a fatwah.) You go girl!!!
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/09/05/f-vp-mallick.html
'What I find most disturbing about McCain’s pani epsches is that there are people who cheer him on. That is frightening.'
That was not what I wrote. I said "McCain's panic speeches"
Seriously, who is Mark Halperin?
cheesesauce @ 44:
Cheesesauce, I like what you say! And you too, Alice X... Say it some more!
Stuart Fleishman @ 50:
nobody!
mark halperin is larry craig's bottom bitch.
Hillary 2012 @ 27:
Franklin Raines never met Obama, both Obama and Raines have said so. But you wouldn't believe the truth anyway because Rush told you so. Turn the caps/lock off, ditto-head.
One of the biggest rightwing strategies is to insist that they are winning in the face of all facts to the opposite. Think back to Rove's "math" before the 2006 midterm elections.
The rightwing honestly does not understand the fact that it can, or will, lose. The rightwing does not understand the fact that it can be wrong--witness the repeated denials by McCain on factual matters. He continues to claim that Alaska produces 20 percent of America's energy, despite that claim having been disproved.
The strategy is not "brilliant." The rightwing are pathological liars.
I'm preaching to the choir, I suppose, but think back to the Reagan landslides and you won't find more hatred and anger spewed by Republicans than you do now. It is sickening, no?
Time magazine goes to press on Monday or Tuesday.
Mark Halperin is not delusional, he's doing the job he's paid to do by his corporate paymasters. That is to spin everything in favor of the Republican party no matter how contrary to reason, logic or fact. The Republican party is the party of corporate deregulation. The big media corporations that employ Halperin are desperately afraid of a Democrat in the White House coupled with a Democratic Congress. While such a scenario will not completely stop deregulation fever, it will certainly put a brake on the most egregious aspects of it.
right on! @ 52:
No kidding!! What a smeghead!
Hillary 2012 @ 27:
Rush Limbaugh's Operation Chaos is still in full gear I see.
If you can set aside your fanatical hero worship of John McCain and all things Republican for a moment, you might find this an eye opening read:
McCain Attacks Wall Street Greed—While 83 Wall Street Lobbyists Work for His Campaign
You might find it interesting all the McCain Freddie and Fanny Mac lobbyists that are working for McCain.
"The Chairman of the FEC should resign" said McCain
If I count a tail as a leg, how many legs does a donkey have?
I'll give you a hint, the answer is an even number.
Of course, what the fake Hillary supporter above isn't saying is that the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190 that McCain backed was merely more deregulation of the sort that created this crises.
Hillary 2012 @ 27:
Setting up for 2012: If McCain wins, I hope all of the Barack supporters look elsewhere than these sellouts.
ABC News’ Jennifer Parker reports: Former President Bill Clinton has largely kept himself out of the public eye since his wife lost the Democratic primary to Barack Obama.
However in a rare television interview tonight, the former president called Republican presidential candidate John McCain “a great man” and praised GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin as an “instinctively effective candidate.”
On a day when Obama sought to convince voters that he’s best able to handle the economic crisis, the former president said it was his wife, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., who gave today “the most detailed position” on what to do about the financial crisis.
Way to put country first, asshat.
Seldom has any man won the office of pundit for virtue to the degree that Mark Halperin gained it from worthlessness.
If anyone on this blog gets the reference, you get the Order of the Chrononauts.
Flush out your headgear, Halperin. Even I thought Obama won the week by a landslide.
Nate Silver @ 538 was even surprised at the dramatic shift to Obama in the past 7 days
nickpoppagorgiofromyuma@63
You let yourself be baited by a Republican fraud. He's having a good laugh right now at your expense.
i can't take a guy serious who looks like he pees sitting down.
Mark Halperin lost the week.
Snowball @ 66:
That's still a quote from an ABC interview last night. And where is Bill? Why isn't he stumping for Obama? People blamed Gore for not using him, but maybe Gore knew this would be the result. Praising McCain and Hillary? WTF?!?!
Snowball @ 66:
Read this bullshit!
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/bill-clinton-pr.html
nickpoppagorgiofromyuma @ 69:
i agree
He should move to Fox with that gop hack from the view.
This can't be for real.
Nobody, not even Halperin can be this stupid! Every single- let be repeat that- every single tracking poll showed at least a 4 point swing in the last week. And Gallup essentially said the swing in the Thursday night numbers were so huge that the Saturday numbers will almost certainly show even more movement towards Obama.
Polls show Obama, so it must be McCain's week. (Or maybe, that should read "McCain's weak...)
Doug @ 34:
Believe it or not I was on democraticunderground I saw a small article about how some reporters are in a panic because they are worried that Obama was going to take a bigger leed and that meant that some would loose their jobs. It was said that they are going to have to go after some of the negative things. Cherry pick something that Michelle Obama might say. I was kinda shock.
According to Halperin's column, "this week" started last wednesday and ended this wednesday. Maybe that's why it seems so tone deaf.
Who is this guy and does anyone care?
sadja @ 15:
The word in the "hood" is that these fools are being secretly promoted by black operatives within the Repugnicant party.
They are such a small insignificant group that no one need worry about them...just silly agent provocateurs trying to stir up shit!
Robert D @ 13:
Don't beat me! I'll be good!
Hey, you're just nuts aren't you?
Hillary 2012 @ 27:
The truth is Obama won the week as all the polls show. This shameless corporate suit is full of it, as they usually are.
Halperin playing nice to his buddy Rick Davis.
Speaking of Davis.. a former Fannie Mae executive has written a letter to The New York Times :
McCain campaign manager Rick Davis paid several hundred thousand dollars to lobby for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac against federal regulation
Obama needs to lather on the Keating 5 and the McCain's gaggle of lobbyists.
nickpoppagorgiofromyuma @ 70:
Hey, I'm the last one to be a Clinton fan, if I remember, I either voted for Jessie Jackson or Bill Bradley and against Bill Clinton in the primaries. I've never liked or trusted the DLC or anyone associated with it. Still, the supposed Clinton hanger oners who post pro McCain propaganda on Liberal websites are not really Clinton supporters, they're Republican trolls playing a game of divide and conquer. Don't let them get away with it
If you want proof that Franklin Raines from Fannie Mae was Obama's economic advisor, just Google "Obama Raines".
Raines, the same man who made $90 Million with Obama's help. Of course, he paid Obama royally for blocking McCain's legislation and keeping the corruption going.
By the way, I am a lifelong Democrat who supported Hillary and I refuse to vote for Obama because he sent his goons into the caucuses to steal delegates using theft, threats, force, and fraud of every kind imaginable. I also don't like his lack of experience, his anti-American friends, his lies and corruption, and the fact that he is nothing more that a Chicago punk.
I'm voting for McCain because I want Hillary in 2012, McCain will have his hands tied by a Democratic Congress, he won't be doing anything the Dems don't approve of, including appointing judges. I like Gov. Palin even though she doesn't come close to Hillary, but neither does Obama. I disagree with some of her views, but she refers to them as her personal opinions. I don't even know what Obama's views are because of all the flip-flopping. Gov. Palin has limited experience, but Obama has none. I prefer to have the one with no experience as VP, not president.
RONINKOKORO
Hillary is absolutely right. There's not person in congress who took more money from Fannie Mae in the past 20 years than Obama. His biggest economic advisors are the ex CEO of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. 90 Million dollars Franklin Raines took, while he cooked the books to hide profit fluctuations. Educate yourself and then perhaps you can make an argument.
LT
LMAO
Hillary=cleanin Roninkokoro's clock
Heh, once you call out a right wing troll, they go crying for support.
How's the weather in Freeper Land LT and "Hillary"? I hear it's pretty dark out for you far right free market fundamentalists.
Oh, and I refer you to my comment @59 if you want to know who's really in the bag for the Wall St. cleptocracy.
more specifically,
Obama received in 4 years more than any other member in 20. Wow. I wonder why that is???
Tyler Durden @ 20:
Watch out for them lying eyes of yours. Otherwise, you may end up with a democratic government, and a much better standard of living for yourself!
I'm not sure what Freeper Land is, but I guess Liberals resort to name callin when they can't win an argument huh Snowball. Don't know much about this situation do ya?
McCain is a POW. Anyone who spent 5 years in a pow camp always wins the week. In fact, if he feels like shitting on us all then who more entitled that John Mccain, eh?
I'm sad for those of you who supported Hillary and now support McCain. Either you don't believe and respect her now or you never did.
She wants what's best for this country for the next four years. She knows that if McCain and Palin get into the White House -- with the Republican platform and all it implies -- our nation will suffer far worse than the horrors we've experienced under W.
She knows what will be best for this country.
Why are you committed to destroying it?
I seriously wonder if we WILL have a country -- one we recognize -- in four years if we have to endure a McCain/Palin presidency.
sadja @ 41:
Don't fall for it. He or she isn't a real Hillary supporter. Prorbably just some freeper who listens to Billo the clown or Flush Limpballs.
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Hillary 2012 @ 83:
And when McStupid appoints 2 more Alito's to the Supreme Court, the rest of your life will be spent dealing with corporate fascism, and the complete destruction of personal liberties and individual rights. Your vindictiveness is both petty, and self destructive; not to mention just plain dumb!
When Republican trolls show up at Liberal websites pretending to be life long Democrats (albeit, without any principles) who are voting to continue the domestic and foreign policy objectives of the Bush regime, we know for certain that the McCain campaign is getting really desperate.
Thanks LT and "Hillary," I'm now more convinced and motivated than ever that Obama will be our next president due to your presence and persistence here.
Idiotland,
What difference does it make whether she supported Hillary or not? Her position about this subject is valid. She's right, and Ron is wrong. Snowball doesn't know, that's why he's namecalling
LT
Edwin Hussein @ 48:
Oh, SNAP!!
As to Halperin, life in the bubble is just fine.
Snowball,
I've never pretended to be a Democrat. i'm a conservative. Not a Republican, although I'm sure you would like to categorize me as that, since I've completely destroyed any argument about this fiasco being a conservative problem. Lay off the kool-aid, stop name callin, and get informed.
LT
by the way, I ended up at this web site while researching some notion about their being a coverup about the death toll in Galveston. I just thought I would educate you guys before leaving.
I will not speak to the veracity of this, but it's terrifying if it is true.
LT @ 99:
Here. Read this. The death toll hits 51...media blackout.
Holy crap! The trolls are out in full force.
NoGWBpolicyleftinplace @ 94:
You certainly are entitled to your opinion . IF you are who you say you are. But for some reason, I just don't believe you.
attack me if you will, but women are polling toward Obama as of last night at 52-32. I'd post the link but I can't remember right now. Give me a little time, I'll find it. In the mean time, your fooling no one.
OBAMA SUPPORT FOR BUSH/CHENEY ENERGY POLICY
Sen. Obama voted for the 2005 Energy Bill, written in secret by Vice President Cheney and the Energy Lobby.
Thomas Friedman referred to the bill as "the sum of all lobbies."
U.S. PIRG noted that the bill's "heavy tilt toward big oil companies reflects the influence of Exxon Mobil and other oil companies on policy-makers in Washington, DC."
The Washington Post editorialized that the bill was a "piñata of perks for energy industries."
Indeed, the bill contained $6 billion in subsidies to the oil and gas industry and $12 billion to the nuclear power industry.
Although Sen. Obama voted for the legislation, he has spoken as if he opposed it on the campaign trail, criticizing it repeatedly. At a presidential debate he said "You can look at how Dick Cheney did his energy policy…he met with oil and gas companies forty times, and that's how they put together our energy policy." He's attributed the failure of our current energy policy to Congress's "failure to stand up to the lobbyists."
Sen. Obama's rhetoric blasting the policies of Vice President Dick Cheney and energy lobbyists can be stirring. But Obama's actions haven't matched his words.
Read the details:
U.S. PIRG: 'The [2005 Energy Bill] energy law's heavy tilt toward big oil companies reflects the influence of Exxon Mobil and other oil companies on policy-makers in Washington, DC': "The new energy law’s heavy tilt toward big oil companies reflects the influence of ExxonMobil and other oil companies on policy-makers in Washington, DC." [U.S. Public Interest Research Group, "How Exxon Mobil and the Oil Industry Benefit from the 2005 Energy Bill," 8/2005]
Washington Post: 2005 Energy Bill was 'a piñata of perks for energy industries': The Washington Post said, "…The energy bill, touted as a way to reduce dependence on foreign oil or moderate gasoline prices, has been turned into a piñata of perks for energy industries." [Washington Post, 7/30/05]
Energy Bill gave $6 billion in subsidies to oil & gas industry and $12 billion in subsidies to nuclear power industry: [Public Citizen, "The Best Energy Bill Corporations Could Buy," citizen.org]
HILLARY AND McCAIN DID NOT VOTE FOR CHENEY'S GIFT TO BIG OIL.
Hillary 2012 @ 104:
Prove it!
And don't take me wrong, I like Sen Clinton. And everyone here knows it.
So Provide us with proof , like say the voting record.
MsJoanne
Interesting, but I heard stories of people talking about "thousands of bodies" and there being an area off limits to the press. I personally don't believe that the stories are true, as I just got off active duty with the Louisiana National Guard in the New Orleans area. there were over 3,000 soldiers down there. I'm assuming that there are many more than that in Galveston. There's very little possibility that so many soldiers could keep a tight lip, assuming that they would be asked to. I don't see it happening.
LT
Dendroica @ 73:
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Tax cuts for the rich increase revenues.......
Mudshark
I'm sure you can verify that yourself at factcheck.org or whatever the site is. You guys should know this if you support Obama. How could you not? He's your candidate and that is who you are casting your vote for in the most important election in our time. Do your homework man.
LT @ 109:
OK , I'll check all the fact check e-mails I've saved for the last 3-4 months. I save them all. But I have a question for you.
When was Obama sworn into the US Senate?
Obama just said that he's laying off unveiling his economic plan because "you don't do it in a day". Of course, all this financial stuff just happened overnight. There's no way he could have done something constructive, like make an economic plan, instead of all this running around talking about change...
crickets chirping
When Sarah Palin ran for governor as a Republican outsider in 2006, she took on not only a sitting governor from her own party but also Alaska's Republican establishment -- vowing to clean up a political system that had been rocked by an Federal Bureau of Investigation corruption probe.
After handily winning, her popularity in Alaska soared as she went on to sack political appointees with close ties to industry lobbyists and shelved pork projects. Gov. Palin has shown similar fearlessness in going after Big Oil, whose money has long dominated the state. She appears, for example, to have forced Alaska's dominant oil producers, ConocoPhillips and BP PLC, to finally get serious about a natural-gas pipeline -- without making any tax or royalty concessions.
"People see her as the symbol of purity in an atmosphere of corruption," says Anchorage pollster Marc Hellenthal. "She's more like Saint Sarah."
Palin sought more taxes and more development from oil companies.
In her first speech as Sen. John McCain's running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin claimed a credential that might resonate with a nation blanching at the cost of gasoline — a record of taking on Big Oil.
"Along with fellow reformers in the great state of Alaska, as governor, I've stood up to the old politics as usual, to the special interests, to the lobbyists, the big oil companies, and the good-old-boy network," Palin said, speaking to a crowd in Dayton, Ohio, after McCain introduced her to the nation on Aug. 29, 2008. "When oil and gas prices went up so dramatically and the state revenues followed with that increase, I sent a large share of that revenue directly back to the people of Alaska. And we are now — we're now embarking on a $40-billion natural gas pipeline to help lead America to energy independence."
We've already checked her claim that she sent "a large share of that revenue directly back to the people of Alaska." We ruled it True.
So here we'll examine whether she really stood up to the big oil companies, some of the most influential players in Alaska's political scene.
Palin was sworn in as governor on Dec. 4, 2006. Over the course of 2007, she fought to raise taxes on oil companies. Alaska gets about 85 percent of its state revenue from oil taxes, and as fuel prices skyrocketed, Palin complained the state wasn't getting its share of the windfall. She successfully pushed for a law that raised taxes on oil profits to 25 percent from 22.5, winning passage in the State Legislature in November 2007. The increase amounted to an estimated $1.6-billion annually more for the state.
Oil companies had opposed the increase, with executives saying it would discourage them from investing in the state. BP Alaska president Doug Suttles said after the Legislature passed the increase: "I can only hope that once the impact of this legislation is clear, the administration and the Legislature will revisit the issue."
So yes, with respect to taxes, Palin stood up to big oil companies.
Palin has also sparred with big oil companies over who gets to build a pipeline to carry natural gas to market from Alaska's North Slope. The fields there have enormous gas reserves, but so far they have remained largely untapped due to the lack of a pipeline. Palin's predecessor, Frank Murkowski, supported a contract between the state and BP, ConocoPhillips and Exxon Mobil to develop the pipeline. Palin opposed that, promising to consider other companies.
Indeed, after she was elected she solicited other bids, and ended up supporting a proposal by TransCanada Corp. to build a 1,715-mile pipeline down the Alaska Highway and through Canada. Exxon, ConocoPhillips and BP all criticized Palin's move to give the job to the Calgary-based company.
"She has taken an independent position and she has been protective of state sovereignty," said Gerald McBeath, political science professor at the University of Alaska Fairbanks.
So in the pipeline battle as well, Palin took on big oil.
Palin also continued efforts Murkowski had launched to take back leases the state had awarded to Exxon Mobil, BP, Chevron and ConocoPhillips in the giant Point Thomson oil and gas field. Alaska officials were annoyed that the companies had not developed the field, which would boost state revenue. The companies said the fields posed technical challenges.
In that respect as well, Palin stood up to big oil.
LT @ 98:
For your information, I don't drink Kool-Aid, that's a corporate sugar product of which I don't partake. Far from having destroyed any notion that our current economic collapse is due to the free market fundamentalism of the Republican party and a few sell-out Democratic enablers in the DLC (such as the Clintons), your dishonesty at posting here without first declaring your political allegiance I take as an indication of your absolute desperation and a slow realization of the abject failure of your ideology.
Thanks for what for you must be a rare instance of honesty as to your political persuasion. I swear, you could try living your life by it. Then, maybe, I'll change my opinion of you.
MsJoanne @ 101:
This is exactly what the lying "librul" media (ROFLMAO) did in 2000. That's how we ended up with Chimpy the idiot being able to steal the election.
One of the first things our new government needs to do in January, is to indict the corporate media for treason, and bring back the fairness doctrine. And the American people need to see they have been lied to by the corporate elite (at democracy's expense) for at least 25 years!
Take your time LT. I'm looking through my Fact Checks
Michigan is polling in at 60 Obama and 40 McCain. Yeah, their slipping into panic mode now.
mudshark @ 104:
No, I don't want to attack you. But I am puzzled as to why you are attacking me.
This clot is still stuck in that all too familiar mode seemingly favored by most of the press for the duration of Bush's presidency that spins everything as a win for Republicans.The idea that this week was a win for them is too rich for general consumption.
your dishonesty at posting here without first declaring your political allegiance I take as an indication of your absolute desperation and a slow realization of the abject failure of your ideology.
what??? see above for how i got to this site.
And I don't know how much clearer I have to make it for you about Liberal idealogy/regulation/lending practices/this debacle. Look at the links between Obama, Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae, et al. How come Raines made 90 million a year cooking the books? Why did Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac donate more to his campaign in 4 years than any other congressman in 20 years? Follow the money. If you can't make the connection, you're gonna have a tough time in the future. About your opinion of me. I really don't care.
NoGWBpolicyleftinplace @ 117:
Sorry, That was meant for Hillary. My apologies.
Doug @ 34:
Live long and prosper, SouthernYankee
Mark Halperin = in the tank for McCain.
Clearly.
"Only" $50,000 worth of stealable items lying around his HOTEL ROOM?
Who are the fucking elitists here?
Big Oil Donations, from Fact Check.
Obama released a TV spot saying McCain's campaign got $2 million from "Big Oil" while McCain proposed "another $4 billion in tax breaks" for the industry.
The truth is that McCain's campaign has received $1.33 million from individuals employed in the oil and gas industry, not $2 million. Obama himself has received nearly $400,000, according to the most authoritative figures available. We find the $2 million figure is based on a mistaken calculation.
Furthermore, McCain is not proposing new tax breaks specifically targeted to the oil industry. He's proposing a general reduction in the corporate income tax rate, which Democrats figure would benefit the five largest oil and gas companies by $3.8 billion.
I really do like this site alot.
I'm still going through them. Thank You for your Patience.
January 4, 2005?
Hillary:
"I prefer to have the one with no experience as VP, not president. "
You can't be serious.
No my friend, you don't support HRC.
Gotten many McPoints yet?
mudshark @ 116:
Michigan ALWAYS breaks heavily democratic around October. Just a little bit earlier this year. Can you blame us though?
Also, on another bright note, I have a very good feeling the democrats are going to knock out two of the biggest Congressional right wing nut-jobs (Palin clones) this year.
Thanks to the most ridiculous gerrymandering you ever saw, these two jackasses have been holding on to their seats by a few thousand votes, each election getting closer and closer. This year, they are going down!
LT @ 125:
That would be correct LT.
cool. What did I win?
APPARENTLY, I'M NOT THE ONLY HILLARY VOTER WHO IS VOTING FOR McCAIN. OF HILLARY'S 18 MILLION VOTERS, I WOULD SAY ABOUT HALF ARE GOING FOR McCAIN. AND, THEY ARE NOT ALL WOMEN. HUSBANDS, FATHERS, BROTHERS, AND SONS ALSO AGREE OBAMA IS AN UNQUALIFIED, CORRUPT, LYING, HYPOCRITE.
“LYNN FORESTER DE ROTHSCHILD, MEMBER OF DNC PLATFORM COMMITTEE, ENDORSES JOHN MCCAIN”
ARLINGTON, VA — Today the McCain-Palin campaign announced the endorsement of Lynn Forester de Rothschild, a prominent Hillary Clinton supporter and member of the Democratic National Committee’s Platform Committee.
“In an election as important at this, we must choose the candidate who has a proven record of bipartisanship and reforming government, and that’s John McCain,” Rothschild said.
“We can’t afford a president who lacks experience and judgment and has never crossed party lines to work for meaningful reform. Amid tough economic times and foreign policy concerns, we need someone who is ready to lead.
Although I am a Democrat, I recognize that it’s more important to put country ahead of party and that’s why I support John McCain.”
Rothschild, an attorney and businesswoman, supported Sen. Clinton during the Democratic primaries. She will campaign for Sen. McCain through Election Day.
NoGWBpolicyleftinplace @ 127:
:) !
I'm really sorry about the misunderstanding NoGWBpolicyleftinplace.
Hillary 2012 @ 130:
Nice try, but no one here is going to buy it. Dream on .
who the hell is Mark Helperin?
LT @ 129:
A Winnebago, Hell, a whole herd of winnebego's .We're given them away!
Hey mudshark
I know you're not gonna like it, but Hillary is right. I heard the interview with Rothschild and Wolf Blitzer...
LT
a winnebago? cool. I wonder if I can take it with me to afghanistan.
LT
LT @ 119:
Did Franklin Rains cook books? Evidence please. There's plenty of evidence that there are those in the Democratic party that owe their allegiance more to corporations than a democratic political process, that much is given. We know who they are, it's a corporate and right wing foundation financed organization within the Democratic party called the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC). No matter, they are quickly being marginalized. Clinton's defeat in the primaries is evidence of their waning influence. This current economic crises is their deathblow.
The critical matter here is not the corruption of a few politicians in one party or the other. It's a fundamental distinction of which ideology got us into this economic debacle: Liberalism (which advocates for government [democratic] intervention and regulation of the economy) or the free market fundamentalism of Conservatism (which advocates deregulation and self-regulating markets). We've had twenty or more years of the latter, how's that working out for you?
Oh, and if you want to place the onus of blame on the Obama camp for Fannie May and Freddie Mac, please take the time to read the article I posted a link to @59.
Thank you,
Snowball
mudshark @ 131:
Forget about it.
Besides, it sounds like you have hooked a "big one" on your line with LT. He seems sincere, but I truly feel sorry for anyone who can still call themselves a conservative in this day and age.
LT @ 136:
Just make sure you get the one with 4x4 and extra armor plating. :)
You not really going to Afghanistan are you?
I gotta be honest with you LT(are you an Lt?) I'm having a hard time finding the Fact Check you were referring too.
I went through their archives Sept, Aug and July and found nothing about Raines.
to all concerned,
I am a conservative, not a republican. there is a difference GWB. By the way, its not conservative policies that is killing this country - it's liberalism. Just like this mess with fannie mae and freddie mac. Snowball, its common knowledge that Raines cooked the books. He took a plea deal over the charges. Very easy for you to find. Like I said. Educate yourself. I have to put my daughter to bed now. I will return tomorrow for more debate with all. 1 conservative signing off...
LT
LT @ 141:
Good Night LT.
Give your daughter a hug for us liberals.
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Hillary 2012@143
Yawn
*chirp*
There's nothing wrong with being a conservative. They got screwed along with everybody else.
It's the neocons who have damaged the country. I have a hard time excepting it was the liberals fault.
Who has been in charge? Who had the legislative,executive and judicial branch of Gov't for 6 years?
Who ran both houses for 12 years?
When Reagan was Pres, this very thing happened. What more do you need to see to make you understand that the GOP could care less about you?
But it's the liberals fault.
yeah, right.
sure thing.
Hillary 2012 @ 130:
I find it absolutely amazing, that you are more angry at Obama for defeating your candidate in the primaries, than you are at the republicans who have destroyed our entire country, and obliterated our worldwide standing. Not to mention the fact that THEY lied us into a war that has killed or maimed 100,000 Americans, and who really knows the number of Iraqi's who have died?
You really need to get a grip! Have you tried counseling or medication? I am not being a smart-ass. But your rantings are displaced and self destructive.
And as far as "Princess" Rothschild is concerned, she has so much freakin' FAMILY money, she doesn't have to worry about McStupid getting elected. If anything, she will only get richer being part of the economic stratosphere dwellers club like Cindy, G. Dumb and Johnny clueless. She is never going to be in a bread line, or foreclosed upon, or denied health-care due to costs.
She can afford to be a narcissistic vindictive rich b***h. Most of us can't.
Another words, who gives a shit who SHE supports. She belongs with the McInsanes.
Jo @ 9:
I always wonder why Liberals give headlines to insignificant right wing freaks.
LT @ 141:
That's why I feel sorry for you. It IS CONSERVATIVE policies that are destroying this country. Cause and effect baby!
We HAVE been implementing conservative policies for 30 years, while eliminating liberal policies that kept the destructive philosophy of conservatism in check for decades. Conservative policies have ALWAYS destroyed the middle class, led to unbridled greed, and if left in place long enough, ALWAYS lead to a Great Depression. If you can read that data from history and come to any other conclusion, well.... I guess your are a conservative. Enjoy that fantasy-land parallel universe you live in at your own expense.
And there is NOTHING liberal about the policies that got us here! No freakin' way in HELL! Bush and the CONSERVATIVES who gave us this clusterfuck ARE corporate fascist - the exact OPPOSITE of liberals. They are CONSERVATIVES on steroids! Sorry, but don't try to push that CONSERVATIVE Orwellean bullshit tactic around these parts. Folks around here don't cotton to that War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, this clusterfuck is the fault of liberals bullshit! Too smart for that!
And save your conservative-GOP talking points for someone else. I was a republican for many years, and I have lived through and researched the hell out of all of their "talking point" claims, and they are ALL BULLSHIT! EVERY SINGLE ONE! BULLSHIT!
Thats why I feel sorry for you. You are probably a decent human being, and yet, you support a philosophy that attacks people of goodwill, while defending the most dispicable, greedy, loathsome, lying SOB's (CONSERVATIVE'S=REPUBLICAN'S) on the face of the earth.
Hillary 2012 @ 27:
Uh, do you realize that at least one of his many lobbyist advisers were lobbyists for Freddie Mac. Do you know what a lobbyist is? Do you have any idea whatsoever of McCain's role in the S&L debacle? Do you know how to tie your shoes
NoGWBpolicyleftinplace @ 148:
Conservative policies and laissez-faire attitudes did this country in once and it will do it again unless progressive reason slaps them down. Republican greed fuels all that is wrong. Republican mindset of white superiority in a diverse world will mark the end of their idiocy once and for all.
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