McCain plays dumb while Meredith Viera nails him on "golden parachute" hypocrisy
By SilentPatriot Sunday Sep 21, 2008 6:40pm
Last week, after the Wall Street crisis took center stage in the presidential campaign, John McCain began assailing the greed of corporate fat cats, blasting CEOs who "seem to escape the consequences." Reminded today by Meredith Viera that Carly Fiorina, as CEO of HP, walked away with over $40 million even after her tenure at the company was marked by tens of thousands of job losses and a 40% decline of shareholders stock value, John McCain insists that Fiorina did a heckuva job and played dumb on the details of her huge payout.
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Viera: You have said, bottom line, it's those fat cats. It's the greed of Wall Street. You promised to crack down on CEOs who walked away with huge severance packages. And yet the person who up until recently was your public face on your economic policy was Carly Fiorina. She's the former CEO of Hewlett Packard, she was fired in 2005, but she left with a $45 million dollar golden parachute while 20,000 of her employees were laid off. She is an example of exactly the kind of person you say is at the root of the problem. How can you say that?
McCain: I don’t think so. … Because I think she did a good job as CEO in many respects. I don’t know the details of her compensation package. But she’s one of many advisers that I have.
Viera: But she did get a $45 million dollar golden parachute after being fired while 20,000 of her employees were laid off.
McCain: I have many of the people, but I do not know the details of what happened.
Are we really supposed to believe that McCain had no idea Fiorina was an epic failure at HP and still took home a huge $40 million dollar payout? Of course not. He just knows he can't say with a straight face that he chose her, knowing she symbolizes the very corporate greed and corruption he now rails against.
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"John McCain couldn't run a major corporation. I should know. I couldn't either."
- Carly Fiorina, were she to ever be honest
He only knows what his 'captors' tell him!
He's starting to look more and more like Karl Rove each time I see him speak....
Cheney for Halliburton
Paulson for Goldman Sachs
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aUj_9.k13q7s&refer=home
Didn't know the details, my derriere. McCain is a liar who got caught on national television. And he can't talk his way out of it by saying that Fiorina was "one of many advisors to the campaign". You'd think that he, out of all people, would know who is advising him.
Are American viewers that stupid to not see that McPOW just told a bald-faced lie on television?
Thanks Meredith for calling McSame on something that Obama hasn't. Why is it so obvious from up here in Canada that the Dems are really asleep at the wheel here on calling the GOP on their bullshit? This isn't the media's dogfight, and the former host of the View shouldn't be the one pointing out the freakin' obvious.
It's almost like the Dems are throwing it on purpose, and it's downright scary.
McCain has a brain met. Gotta be.
...and this guy has 44% of the country behind him?
Okay what part of this am i not understanding. I'm not trying to make this more complex than it is. George Bush has tried in every way possible to do with the country and with the presidency the same that he has done for virtually everything else that he has touched. Leave it in ruins. He is so desperate for a legacy, albeit a negative one, he is willing to run the country completely into the ground. We owe our economic lives to china. check the DOW today another 400 point loss. He's doing it and he has until january to complete his task. What the hell can we do at this point but fiddle while rome burns.
Do you think? Could it be? Was McCain lying when he said he didn't know any of the details of Carly's epic FAIL?
MalachiConstant @ 6:
That's why I hope that they aren't despite the details of the situation. Even they know we can't afford a Palin/McPOW presidency.
(*name order intentional*)
. . . and it is not a stretch for this man to play dumb. He is a dullard by any definition.
McCain: I have many of the people, but I do not know the details of what happened.
What the hell does that mean?
He's a lying, stupid ass, ignorant mother fucker. If that's what you want to know. And we're all going to be POW's if we allow this bird brain to take the reigns of our country. I'm sorry but we need a statesmen and sharp minded intelligent person to get us out of this jam. McCain ain't even close and probably can't even remember to take his medication. Enjoy your homes buddy, we need a new man at the helm.
John McCain showing symptoms of dementia or retardation...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWX5u69hmzY
He doesn't know the details about anything! If he doesn't at least know the details about the people his campaign sends out to speak for it, just imagine what kind of people he would appoint and pick for his cabinet.
McCain is simply too irresponsible.
Poor confused old man can't even hold his own against a game show host.
again, mccain showed his judgment is suspect. how can he conclude that carly deserved her golden parachute if he does not know the details of what happened. mccain is crazier than bush.
When he starts being dumb like that, more people need to say, "WHY DON'T YOU KNOW THAT?"
I can't decide if he's pretending to be clueless, or if he has been Senator for so long that he actually thinks in sound bites.
Political gaffe or not, I concur with Fiorina's statement that John McCain could never have been CEO of of a big company. Me thinks that saturated politics raises one's risk for cerebrosclerosis.
The Very Bitter Ceci Hussein @ 5:
Judging from the latest poles, I'd say an all too significant portion of the populations THRIVES off of being lied to. How else can you explain the support for more of the same??
moonsha @ 15:
Tellin' ya, he has a brain met. I'm gettin' ever more convinced.
So, you run for president and take advice on a core subject (about which you are personally uninformed) from someone who is responsible for a well-publicized train wreck. Maverick is like my five year old.... "but I didn't know about that." Same story in a way with his VP choice..."I didn't bother to find out." Head exploding, must leave now.
Snowball @ 13:
i think it's a mixture of ... dear in the headlights, and needing an after dinner nap at 4:30 in the afternoon.... with a dash of wonder about what kind of pudding they will feed him for desert today....
wow... this is getting sent to all my contacts... amazing. mcFAILin indeed... how can he be trusted to run the country if he can't recall basic fact's about his closest advisors (well before she was thrown under the bus for her truthful comment)
Notice mcShame's rapid fire blinking; the sure sign of a liar.
So he KNOWS enough to say "I think she did a good job as CEO in many respects" but he DOESN'T KNOW enough to why she was fired and about her publicly known $45 million dollar golden parachute? Right.
Babushka Blue @ 10:
What the man of the straight talk express? Surely not. It would be just shocking for that man to tell a lie. snark!
Do McCain supporters even listen to this guy? Do they just look at him and think , "he's old, he's white, and he was a POW, that's all i need to know." ???
...yeah, i know the answer.
John McCain is a big fucking liar.
mccain never reads any of the tech or biz trades? cuz they documented exactly what happened to carly and hp
or maybe he could call me, cuz i know
even she admits that she got a comp package, but refuses to say that it was 42-45 million and says that it was the shareholders that voted to give it to her (partially correct, they wanted her to go away quietly)
"I do not know the details of what happened."
That'll be his epitaph. And it applies to every topic he stumbles across.
The Very Bitter Ceci Hussein @ 5:
It may be way too early to say this, but I think people may be waking up. In several of the more prominent polls, Obama leads McCain now...in at least a couple he's over the 50% threshhold (see TPM Election Central).
I'm not a big believer in polls--unless they show a definite trend. The numbers are trending Obama. I have to think that's because he's the only one who's introduced a plan. Hell, he's the only one with legitimate economic advisers--ones with "experience."
spudx @ 21:
oh im sure that your 5 year old is better than mcoldfart
i would like to nominate your child to be the next gop prez
Incredible pushback.
Employees should be treated as the most important stakeholder in any corporation.
Carly pissed on her own employees because of her failures, injured her local community, and still got a big fat payoff.
John only cares about himself and his fatcat buddies. That is his community!
helenahandbasket @ 23:
Just like on "60 Minutes" last night. He looked like a deer in the headlights.
He couldn't answer even easy questions, and he couldn't give specifics when he did try to make factual statements about what he'd do when elected.
It was kind of sad, really.
More fodder for the OUT OF TOUCH meme.
He didn't know the most salient facts about his own economic adviser? Who is choosing his advisers for him?
(Could it be . . . SATAN? /pfft)
Zero Regulation
NEW YORK – Oil prices briefly spiked more than $25 a barrel Monday, shattering the record for the biggest one-day gain.
And the Dems stand around with a stupid look on their faces.
Of course Paulsen probably has a piece jammed into her back.
http://tinyurl.com/5xgeom
RobertD @ 30:
read the raw data....if the youth vote doesnt come out....we are fucking screwed
mccain leads in almost every demo except 4
latin and african americans, those from 18-29 and those with a post graduate degree
if those groups come out to vote in record numbers, obama wins
if not....its mccain/palin and we are fucking doomed
In other words, "I can promise wholeheartedly not to do anything about it when I get into office."
Seriously, why can't he show a little outrage at that?
Is personal greed that taboo of a subject to talk about?
You can't even have an opinion about it?
The only reason I can think of is, he's okay with it.
How many Albatrosses can WcCain carry around with him ?
roo roo @ 8:
Bush also has 25 % behind him still! That shows the IQ of those people.
Can we at least agree that the "Good Ole Boys Network" does in fact include women, Carly Fiorina being case in point? It's a sad pseudo achievement for women in general. But that is why McCain included her as an advisor. Because she's part of the club that makes sure that you get a $45M pay-out, even when you nearly ruined a sixty-nine year-old company.
BobbyG @ 20:
HOW DOES ANYONE GET A $40 MILLION RETIREMENT..... i can fuck things up with the best of them..... and will settle for a $1 MILLION parachute....
corporations of the world..... GET YOUR DISCOUNT CEO RIGHT HERE ! ! !
also.... I can see the MOON every night.... if i can't be a CEO can i be a metaphorical astronaut in SARAH's NASA ???
McCain will say anything to get elected. Years ago, I thought there might be a shred of honesty with the man, but this year's campaign has shown he will lie his ass to win the election.
By the way, what have we come to when you can utterly fail a company and walk away with $40 million dollars?
I couldn't spend $40 million over the rest of my life if I tried. (You'd make $4 million a year if you threw it in a money market account.)
To them, it's fair compensation for being retrenched.
And don't forget she was making a multi-million dollar salary as well.
Something is terribly terribly wrong.
That mendacious piece of shit should thank his lucky stars it wasn't me conducting that interview. I'd have laughed in his face and named him as a liar and a whore to his face, and then asked him why he has so much contempt for the american People that he lies to them every chance he gets.
What a scumbag.
At some point, some member of the press is going to ask him the question, "At long last, have you no decency?" I think that's all it would take to deconstruct his dishonest public personna.
The Very Bitter Ceci Hussein @ 11:
You gotta wonder if the dems really want the white house. Today Biden knocks the obama ad criticizing mccain's tech ignorance; and clinton talks up palin and says quit criticizing her? Is this for real?
McCain is becoming a huge joke, as opposed to as regular joke. It seems like when you give him an actual detail, he says he doesn't know any details . . . even after he just heard one. The Sargeant Schultz syndrome?
Uncle Joe Mccarthy @ 28:
She also took the liberty to record conversations and spy on the company's board members. The must add a boost of confidence to the business sector.
Congressman Peter DeFazio on the bailout:
"..."We shouldn't be rushed into this. If it takes a week, two weeks, three weeks, a month, the world will wait," DeFazio said. "They'll wait for a thoughtful plan that cures the disease in addition to getting us beyond this initial problem. That's the job of this Congress. We should not be rolled by our Wall Street exec who is masquerading as secretary of the Treasury......"
http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_092208_politics_defazio_treasu...
I think we should all let him know that we support him.
DC Office Phone: (202) 225-6416
Email
http://www.house.gov/formdefazio/contact.html (Congressional online contact form)
helenahandbasket @ 23:
Clearly.
I'm also growing more and more concerned that he is showing signs of memory loss and dementia. I've seen it happen to several relatives, and now my dad, and McCain displays the same sort of behavior. I'm being totally serious here. Even if he were the man to vote for, I wouldn't vote for him. Especially with a second-in-line who is dumber than a door knob, but that's beside the point.
I'm even more convinced now he's just a puppet along with Palin. I'm wondering who is pulling the strings though? Bush? Cheney? Rove? The lobbyists? McCain's long-time ambition has been to become the POTUS so he was an easy pick who came with a POW bonus for crying points. Palin is nothing but a trophy candidate. She's so full of herself that she actually believes they chose her for her non-existent qualifications. That just makes her even more stupid.
Q: How many houses do you own?
A: I don’t know. Ask my staff.
Q: Who is your VP choice?
A: I don’t know. Ask my staff.
Q: How can you say the fundamentals of the Economy are strong?
A: I don’t know. Ask my staff.
Q: What do you know about Carly Fiorina's golden parachute?
A: I don’t know. Ask my staff.
Um, if John McCain doesn't have the details of her time as CEO of HP, how can he say Fiorina did a good job as CEO?
I think a fair and legitimate question for him now is - is he senile?
McCain doesn't research the people who campaign with him: exhibit #43.
Musk @ 47:
We were called cruel for saying WcCain was a bit past it and maybe somewhat PTSDed, or on the verge of going full blown Alzheimers.
Time and time again, he has shown that something is very wrong in the brain of WcCain.
Gov. Palin can do limited damage as gov of a rinky dink state, similarly WcCain as a solitary senator on the Hill,
its between them and their idiot voters, on the DC and world stage they are a complete joke.
Corruption in Washington? This asshole is one of the corrupted in Washington. Does he think we are dumb. Maybe his followers believe him but not me. This guy is something else. he may lie to the hillbillies but not to us in the midwest. We know him better.
even if you're a total scumbag, you shouldn't support mccain for the simple fact he has no poker face.
*blink*
*blink*
McPale's Navy @ 50:
There was an article on MSN.com about the 8 or 10 Chimpy handlers, aka Republican strategists that got him elected in 2000,
they all work for or direct Palin now.
Well, as with any "gaffe" like this, there are a couple of possible explanations. First (for clarity's sake), McCain is lying. He knows exactly what's going on but doesn't want to acknowledge it. Or, second, McCain is telling the truth and either a)knowingly hired a disastrous businesswoman to be a top advisor and spokesperson for his campaign, or b)does not care enough to look into the credentials of the people he hires to advise him, or is not lucid enough to retain any of that information.
So... which of these is the least damning here? Over the past couple decades, Republicans are quite partial to portraying themselves as forgetful incompetents rather than admit any wrongdoing.
Her face was a picture when he got flustered - she looked like the fox that had caught the tastiest chicken!
GET OUT OF HERE MCCAIN!
GET OUT!
Translation : McDepends was just being himself...............
McCain's problem with memory can be explained by a Mark Twain quote:
"If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything."
Speaking of parachutes and exit plans...
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/9/22/headlines#10
Beginning in October, the Army plans to station an active unit inside
the United States for the first time to serve as an on-call federal
response in times of emergency. The 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st
Brigade Combat Team has spent thirty-five of the last sixty months in
Iraq, but now the unit is training for domestic operations. The unit
will soon be under the day-to-day control of US Army North, the Army
service component of Northern Command. The Army Times reports this new
mission marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated
assignment to Northern Command. The paper says the Army unit may be
called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control. The soldiers
are learning to use so-called nonlethal weapons designed to subdue
unruly or dangerous individuals and crowds.
ferrofluid (Obama + Biden = 2008) @ 57:
I should have copied the article, I bet if you 'namebased' them, they all work for, are lobbyists, or have connections to the MIC companies
evenplayingfield @ 43:
McCaint is probably not lying when he said he was unaware of the details of her "compensation package"
John McCaint probly says or does very little (except lose his temper) ...of his own mind anymore.
This woman was assigned to work for McCaints campaign...he probly met her once...
This old douchebag is completely retarded ..........
How in the hell can anyone claim someone did a "good job" at something if they don't know all the details ?
Hey, fair's fair. Carly Fiorina's not a 'fat cat.'
She's a skinny chick.
C'mon, give the man a break. he was a POW, you know...
Sarah Braun @ 63:
Theres also that illegal (contrary to the US Constitution and US law) agreement between the USA and Canada to share troops for domestic emergencies.
It was reported on the Northern Command website six months or more ago.
MCMetal @ 66:
Sarah Braun @ 63:
Can you say "Martial Law?"
Knew ya could...
MCMetal @ 66:
IOKIYAR dontcha know !
Spies Warn That Al Qaeda Aims for October Surprise
Intercepted Messages Asking Local Cells To Be Prepared for Imminent Instructions
By ELI LAKE, Staff Reporter of the Sun | September 22, 2008
WASHINGTON — In the aftermath of two major terrorist attacks on Western targets, America's counterterrorism community is warning that Al Qaeda may launch more overseas operations to influence the presidential elections in November. MORE...
ferrofluid (Obama + Biden = 2008) @ 64:
I'll see if I can find it. Thanks for the heads up.
McCain plays dumb while Meredith Viera nails him on “golden parachute” hypocrisy
Who said he was playing?
WE ALL LOVE A LITTLE BUSH @ 42:
i buy gas twice a week...i can be the mccain's administration energy czar
Dontcha wish at some point one of these reporters would grow a spine and say something like "I just TOLD you the details. Would you like to see my notes? Now answer the fucking question!"
I know, I know... but I can dream, can't I?
John, it was in the papers including the WSJ. It was also on TV NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, FOX (maybe I am wrong about FOX).
It is always refreshing to see a journalist asking Senator McSenile some real questions.
Extra bonus: watching him trying to spin his way out of the hellhole in which he finds himself. That, and the fact that female reporters in particular are giving him a hard time, is especially delicious.
Canadian troops to be used against US citizens in a peace keeping role...
can you say unconstitutional
U.S. Northern Command, Canada Command establish new bilateral Civil Assistance Plan northcom.mil
Its straight from the horses mouth ie the armys own website, not a rumor, not a red scare, not CT, pure unadulterated illegality
If you thought the RNC protests in St. Paul and crackdown by the police and NG was bad, wait until the anonymous untouchable and unaccountable foreign troops are on US streets killing and battering civilian protesters, blood will flow in the streets.
I cant remember any of the US media news people mentioning this important change to US law enforcement policy.
calgarylady @ 78:
Our handlers occasionally gives us catnip and a toy mouse...
America will soon be neutered.
Yeah, that's it. "Don't blame me for that. I don't know ANYTHING about the people I hire to run my campaign." That'll definitely get you off the hook. It certainly worked for Palin. "Hey, I didn't know anything about the bridge to nowhere, the abuse of power investigations, or the record breaking barrels of pork she brought to Alaska. Don't blame ME for that, I only MET the woman ONCE, okay!?"
Sweet Jesus slingin' hash! McCain looked like he was fixing to blow up on that clip.
McPale's Navy @ 73:
Might have been HuffPo or ThinkProgress, google will find it.
You're headline is ALMOST correct. Mcbush doesn't play dumb. He's the real deal.
I'm an HP employee and I was glad to see Carly ousted by the Board - the same Board that was careless enough in its due diligence to hire her in the first place and then had to pay her handsomely to simply "disappear". However, everyone needs to understand that Carly was not fired because she laid off workers but because she failed to deliver on the promises she made in driving the company into the merger with Compaq. After failing to make the merger work, to increase market share, revenue and share price, she had to go.
In fact, as we discovered upon the arrival of her replacement, Carly didn't go far enough in paring down the headcount that had swelled due to the Compaq deal. One of Hurd's first actions as CEO was to reduce HP headcount by another 10% worldwide, and just last week HP announced the layoff of another 25,000 workers as a result of completing the acquisition of EDS. And through all this, thousands of jobs have been offshored to Latin America, India and Eastern Europe, as part of overall cost-cutting efforts.
The net result of all this is that HP stock price is trading near it's 52 week high in the midst of the financial services meltdown, and the revamped PC business is making serious money while the printing and imaging business re-tools for growth. So while Carly deserves all the abuse she gets - and more - let's not make the mistake of thinking that replacing her with a more competent manager has meant a return of the golden era of how HP used to treat employees. HP is now just another global multinational but run more efficiently according to the standards of global capitalism.
Gossiprocks article
Poltico article on the GWB team working for Palin
McPale's Navy @ 73:
Indirect post: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/mccain-hires-go.html
Gee, this took a few mins to track down. Interesting though that the McCain camp has employed the same people who brought him down in 2000. Looks like they're going to bring him down again. ;o)
castanea @ 82:
WcCain prefers the Sith method of teeth gnashing, rather than the serene Jedi meditation way.
McPale's Navy @ 87:
Gotta laugh, as Chimy said 'fool me once, fool me twice, fool me thrice..."
mccheater probably didn't inquire about fiorina's bona fides for the same reason he didn't vet sarah palin . . . he meets someone in a skirt and his mcsexist brain, i.e. his "hanging chad", kicks in
Rain on the Parade @ 85:
Can we ask why printer ink costs $8000 a gallon to the consumer.
ferrofluid (Obama + Biden = 2008) @ 89:
Oh no you didn't! Just clicked on your name link. I think she would have gone up in flames for holding that Bible long before D.C. did!
innocent bystander @ 90:
http://minnesotaindependent.com/3718/the-mccainviagra-connection-it-take...
Snowball @ 13:
At first I thought he meant that he had many former HP employees working for his campaign. Now I think he mispoke and meant that he has so many advisers he supposedly can't keep track of commonly known information about them. Fiorina was on 60 Minutes pleading her case after she got booted from HP, it's not like she came out of nowhere.
He sounds like the worst candidate on a job interview.
McCain was simply cornered and was left with no answer to give other than to claim ignorance about one of his closest aids in his campaign.
Just like when he said he will ask his staff when he was asked by a reporter about the number of homes he owns...
Give me a break !!
Where's Sarah Palin when you need her?
Palin: "In what respect, Uncle Charlie?"
"I don't know the details of what happened."
What "details" do you need to know??
You *are* aware, aren't you, that carly
1) was the CEO of HP?
2) she was fired?
3) 20,000 employees were laid off?
4) she got a $40MM payout?
I would submit that's all mcthuselah needs to know to be able to respond to the interviewer.
what a frickin liar....as pointed out by other posts that he weasel words it by saying "he doesn't know details"
straight talk.....what a load!
ferrofluid, 79, so true. What has happened to both of our countries is truly scary. The silence on this side of the border (and yours) regarding possible troop deployment between our nations is deafening.
We have one last fleeting chance to make it right in the next few weeks. North America, not to mention the world, is in crisis mode now.
The worst part about that response is that it's so easy for Vieira to say "I just told ya".
MV: How do you feel about Fiorina's $40 million severance package?
JM: I don't know the details
What other details could you possibly want?
MalachiConstant @ 6:
OR, as others continually point out, the Dems are in there just as dirty as the Rethuglicans. Imagine if we were to have an election and our only choices were Harper, Dion or Layton. Good grief.
Is it possible for Obama to win?
What, on God's green earth, is keeping this ignorant, confused, incoherant author of the economic/Iraq/health care mess we're in now competitive in the polls? What does it take to get fired around here? If this week, no, this YEAR hasn't been enough to show voters the utter failure of his philosophy, and his own utter lack of principles to say anything to get elected, what will??
Why do nearly 50% of voters think this man is an acceptable choice to be president?? Someone PLEASE explain this!
Even in the face of all this obvious lying bullshit the Moron Factor of Americaa will probably back McPaleosaur by 40% or more. That and the Chromosome factor could mean another 4 years of disaster.
John, your Palin/McCain run is failing badly. Please, go to bed and leave this to people who are awake.
Scott @ 102:
Yes, to your first question. Over at Real Clear Politics, Obama leads 219 to 189 in electoral votes. The swing state votes will determine it in the end, but if you push them where they stand today, Obama wins. What I'm banking on are all the progressive voters who haven't been polled due to unlisted cell phone numbers. And, stumping in NH by our beloved Vermonters (love you!). Iowa became solid Obama over the weekend. Watch PA and MI do the same soon. Even Florida and Virigina are teetering on going Blue. It's all in our hands now. We have to get the message out. Join up at barackobama.com or moveon.org to find venues where you can make a difference. Help dispel the lies and get the truth out.
McCain simply can't answer any unscripted question!
He even needs reading material (Republicant Talking points) to get through his campaign rallies.
He looks so phony...... The maverick, The straight talker reading from cue cards..........WTF?
He is going to get carved up in the debates if he has to answer anything on his own!
BTW Palin is no better..... she just regurgitates Republican talking points in answer to every question she is asked............. and keeps doing it over and over no matter how hard the interviewer tries to get her to answer a question. She comes across as phony too but at least she doesn't have to read cue cards. She's got the talking points memorized.
That'll play well against Biden!
McCain never knows the details....he didn't know the 'details' either of the 35 felony count indictment of Arizona US Congressman Rick Renzi -McCain's Arizona campaign manager- even though the federal indictment had been available on the internet for weeks, oh, but I forgot McCain can't use a computer.
Scott @ 102:
Bigotry and racism, plain and simple. I say this repeatedly in my own posts, but this is an election of conscience, bravery and fortitude. And I think to save this country, people will have to put their own fears on hold in order to fix this country.
If they give into their fears, we will all be worse off.
I don't know, I can't say, I don't recall, etc. The GOP answer to every tough question. If that was my answer to questions on a job interview, would I get the job, hell no. Do the Rethuglican candidates feel we should give them a job based these answers, why sure they do! Stop the insanity and throw the bums out of office.
Post note on my previous comment:
My answer is to why McCain continues to stay on par with Obama in the polls.
But do I think Obama can win? Yes, if people stop giving into their fears. They need to take some liquid fortitude and stand up to save this country.
McCains nose is getting longer and longer every day
I think we now know why Carly wasn't picked for his VP spot. And he say he didn't know the details. Much better off picking someone from far far away Alaska. John was probably figuring the time zone difference would keep us from finding out about Sarah's shortfalls.
Money is sacred. You don't ask about other people's money. Idolatry and hypocrisy, a twofer.
And yet McCain is leading in the polls in half the country. Go figure.
Get ready, here is comes.... they can't afford to let those FEMA camps go to waste. You think the Rethugs are just going to go quietly? Not on your life.
I wonder what's planned for October?
Sarah Braun @ 63:
I heard this tripe on the TV in my motel room this morning and I contemplated putting my foot through it. Then I remember they had my ID...
ferrofluid (Obama + Biden = 2008) @ 79:
I think I can say without fear of contradiction that we, up here in Canuckistan, have a lot more to worry about regarding this deal than you do.
Wow. Viera's an actual journalist? I had forgotten.
It's totally possible that McCain wouldn't know the details of Carly's $40,000,000 bonanza, after all he's got Cindy's $100,000,000. She probably passed right under his radar.
Grampa only moves up the economic ladder, not down.
ferrofluid (Obama + Biden = 2008) @ 79:
Thanks for the links. Can't say I heard shit on my TV.
Probably to be used to round up US citizens who will flood across the border once McPalin is installed as leader.
The more I watch McCain, the more he comes across as a lying sack of shit. He chooses his words so carefully, and it almost seems that he's making a concerted effort to remain calm?
Almost as if he's thinking, 'I really don't know what's keeping me from coming across the room and kicking the shit out of you for even asking such a question'.
Then I hear tonight on Rachel Maddow's show that Palin values loyalty above all else (where have we seen that before?), and any policy disagreements with her quickly become personal.
Honestly, do we really need four more years of this shit?
JHR @ 121:
Exactly. He says all the right words (for his base), but clearly he's uncomfortable saying them.
I'd really like to see the "daily briefings" with his Rovian thugs that prep him each day, including the shots of Kool-aid given as a direct injection.
Sad part, McCane's "fans" can't/won't hear or see ANY of it.
McCain!
About a couple of weeks ago I wrote about his preference for women whom he runs around with.
His first wife was a model of some kind whom he dumped when she was not beautiful anymore.
He picked up Cindy, took out a marriage license while still married to wife #1, she too was some kind of beauty queen and he recommended her for a bikers' beauty contest - Miss Buffalo Chip comes to mind.
Then he picked the lipsticked pitheifer for VP
Now it is revealed tonight that there was another model, in Brazil around 1957, when he was a midshipman.
He's either incompetent or a liar. Either way, it isn't pretty. He must be hating life about now.
Forgive the following off-topic comment, but I canvassed for Obama this weekend in Virginia. Over 80% of the undecided people we contacted expressed support for Obama. It wasn't lukewarm either--it was passionate and heartfelt. We even had people driving by give us the thumbs up. I've lived in this area for 21 years and I've always felt like a pariah when I've campaigned for Democrats. Things are changing. Virginia is turning blue!
BobbyG @ 1:
That comment got her the hook AKA disappeared.
McCain is no fool... he's just a reprehensible human being.
From leaving his wife who waited for him while he was a POW, to not supporting veteran's benefits, to selling his soul and mortgaging his character to gain a shot at the Presidency... he's just a giant turd that we need to flush into the sewer in which he belongs.
So he gots advisor's and he does not know their "details".
Basically he just wants to be surrounded by "yes" people.
McSame.
I wonder if McCain supports this?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/fury-at-25bn-bonus-for-l...
WTF???
Remind anyone of Ronnie Bonzo after Iran/Contra? "I don't recall."
Just enough end timers and just enough tossed ballots and this POS will be in charge. I refuse to even debate Palin/McCain supporters. It's useless. They are mindless, fearful bigots, or some combination thereof, plain and simple. But I am signing up to be a pollworker. Like voting for Dennis Kucinich in the primaries, come what may, at least I can sleep with a clear conscience.
"I have many of the people."
If McCain was referring to the people who are to blame for the economic mess our country is in, he certainly got that right.
MalachiConstant @ 6:
The beauty is that more people are more inclined to watch The View than they would a political ad or debate.
Harley @ 127:
No need to be particularly competent when you have an army of cowardly media propagandists shilling for you by distorting and diluting Obama's message:
www.mediamatters.org
These asinine hacks make Pravda look like a bunch of amateurs. What an utter disgrace to what's left of their "profession".
Well done Meredith!
why is it lightweights like vierra are doing a better job than you know real journalists out there??
While he was in that POW prison, McCain must have run into Sergeant Schultz, because he sure has got that "I know nutzing-nutzing" line down pat.
His presidency would be one of being a figurehead while the neo-cons finish running this country into the gutter, so I guess that's McCain's "golden parachute", to just sit there, collect the money and look important.
As a Vietnam veteran, this man is an embarrassment to me. Worthless, and totally FUBAR.
That's not a lucid thought. No snark intended.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 72:
Snowball @ 13:
Exactly? Nothing. It's a non-answer answer. It's a way of lying without appearing to lie. It's a way of being dishonest while saving face. It's the way John McCain is.
McCrook chose Fiorina not in spite of her being a fired, over-paid, incompetent CEO. He chose her BECAUSE she was. Her contempt of wage earners matches his own.
Compaq made great ProLiant servers HP made good printers. HP's Intel based servers sucked compared to Compaq's, hence the marriage to compete with Dell.
Well...she does n't have seven houses. Especially not in Latin America Spain. HAHAHAHA!!! You can find him at any local horse stable ON THE GOUND....(HORSE SHIT!)
He ain't playin'.
but shouldn't you know the details of the golden parachutes of one of your own prime economic advisors (I mean before she said you couldn't run a company if you tried).... you assfuck...
He has surrounded himself with the biggest band of CROOKS, and they liea about everything (often by playing dumb.) LIARS.
(see what I did there?)
Anyhow, I was watching Joy Behan, on Larry King, talking about John McCain, on the VIEW. CNN cut away (immediately) to a school shooting in Finland, but they had no news, just some caretaker 500 miles away (with no info, so they asked what the school teaches, etc.) That was the "breaking news"-- (no news at all.) Diversion?!? The economy is melting down and McCain is falling behind in the polls. Sorry to any Finns, but a school shooting is not world "breaking news" (not right now.)
McDummer-Than-Dirt thinks Fiorina did a good job at H.P.....Hum...therefore, she diserves her 45 million dollar contract buy out. Well, the Damn Board Of Directors FIRED HER for destroyed the company. The pay out (UNJUSTIFIED) of 45 million was to get he rout of the company. I am SO DAMN SICK of the way McDummer-Then-Dirt, Pa-Lying and the GOP twsit truth to facilitate their STAYING IN POWER. GOD LOOK WHAT THEY GAVE IS...and I am Republican! We need to fire them all in Nov
chris in seattle @ 140:
So much so, she acted like she was the NSA, and spied on her employess (and probably launched Vendettas aginst those that did not adore her.) Scumbag.
DeBartolo @ 146:
Remind all of your friends and family. would you? The GOP is a farce these days.
Kudos to Viera for nailing Grampy on this one.
Even they know we can't afford a Palin/McPOW presidency.
(*name order intentional*)
I'm using that form in my posts too, but hoping that Cindy takes good enough care of John to keep him alive for 4 years. Having Palin be able to nominate and have confirmed 2 - 3 Supreme Court Judges is a terrifying thought.
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