As Predicted: Tucker Bounds tries to say that McCain is responsible for breaking the bailout stalemate
By SilentPatriot Wednesday Sep 24, 2008 4:45pm
We knew this was coming.....
Exaggeration and truth-stretching is standard fare in politicking, but McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds took it to a new level today when he told Andrea Mitchell that John McCain's selfless act of leadership in coming back to Washington single-handedly helped push through negotiations on the bailout bill. Nevermind the fact that McCain still hasn't contacted the ranking Republican on the Banking Committee, Richard Shelby, and that his campaign is very much still in effect... John McCain put country first and personally saved the economy from disaster. Give me a break.
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"Before John McCain suspended his campaign yesterday, the situation that we're looking at today looked very different then. After he showed leadership and called for bipartisanship, and called for us to put partisanship aside and tackle this solution, here we are."
Barney Frank said earlier today that 'White House photo-op designed to help McCain.'
“All of a sudden, now that we’re on the verge of making a deal, John McCain drops himself in to make a deal," Frank said. "I really worry about this politicization of it....We're trying to rescue the economy, not the McCain campaign.
McCain was only interfering with the negotiations.
Rep. Barney Frank told a group of reporters outside the House chamber: "It's the longest Hail Mary pass in the history of either football or Marys."
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Bingo. Called it in the last McCain thread. Not that it wasn't obvious to everyone already...
MSM is reporting that things got bungled in the Whitehouse and there is no deal. Someone ought to tell Tucker Bounds.
he should be ashamed
Yesterday most parties already heavily involved in the negotiations were delivering credible reports that a deal was close. Twenty-four hours later, after McCain inserted himself, it's fallen apart. Good job, John.
Hurray for St. McCain! He can do anything! After he saves the world, maybe he can fix my lawnmower.
Tucker Bounds needs to be bitch-slapped. What a lying, jackass. I'm sure his mother is proud of him; assuming he was born and not hatched...
If McCain comes out against the bailout, he'll win. Period.
If the market goes up, he'll paint it as a giveaway to Wall Street.
If the market goes down, he paint it as a failed giveaway.
WAKE UP!
The so-called bailout is a gift to Repubs. Look at the House Repubs. They're corrupt, but they're not stupid.
Why does Opie always have a flag behind him?
The traitor should have a shot of San Quentin behind him.
More on topic, good thing McCain's campaign put politics aside. They must be breaking some kind of record for lying aren't they?
There is no deal. Back to the drawing board. Now that's it's been a week and the world hasn't ended maybe everyone should take a deep breath and actually think about this first.
Tucker Bounds. That poor, pathetic lame little feeb. Keep trying, Tucker--one day you'll play in the Pop Warner league with the 11 year olds.
Whatever they had originally agreed on was already done by the time McCain even got to Washington. He showed up for the photo. Now there are 'problems'.
Its a safe bet to say some republican someone wants to hang things up so gramps can jump in and save the day and take credit for it. I don't think the American people are buying it.
Someone tell this little squirrel that his hail mary hasn't worked, McSame didn't get to DC until they thought there was a plan. The WH is trying to help the McSame campaign. It is all for show. The GOP do not have the country in their interest. They have nothing to offer by smoke an mirrors. If McSame has something to say, why doesn't he go to the debate and discuss it in front of the American voters instead of lying, cheating, republicans who have spent any credibility they ever had. They are crooks, liars, and cowards...even the POW.
The Republicans brought in a new deal into the Whitehouse and Democrats were upset because they thought they had an agreement on the first deal. And we trust these people to run our country and make decisions on our behalf. Clusterf**k.
Yeah, there is no deal Tucker. So put the white horse away and start shoveling the horses**t.
Jesus...
Welp...TIME FOR THE DEBATES!
No more obstacles!
This is perfect. The wife of the idiot who was one of the chief architecht of this mess (i.e. Alan Greenspan) interview another repub stooge!
I put this comment on the previous thread but it really belongs here
I have been watching Sen. Dodd being interviewed on cnn. He said today they were working out a core issue about the bailout and he thought everyone was going to agree to it. But out of nowhere comes some sort of press release from the repubs in the House that changed the core issue and this came as a result of something McCain had added. According to Dodd things got contentious for a while. Now Dodd feels they are almost back to step one. He said he’s tired and you could tell he was angry. He feels like McCain pulled some political ploy and now the repubs are supporting him. He feels like the rug of all their previous work has been pulled out from under him. I don’t blame him for being pissed.
One has to wonder if McCain did this on purpose to delay a final vote on the bill so he could stay in DC tomorrow and tomorrow night without looking like a total debate coward. At this point I would put nothing past him. He’s like the thing that just keeps bugging you and won’t go away.
Tucker "My Lies Know No" Bounds. Meh.
BTW, you'll know McCain's influence on this legislation by all of the references to "bombs", "Iran", "War", "Russia", and "POW".
Helena Montana @ 10:
CNN is reporting the chronology accurately. McCain shows up at the time Republicans and Democrats come to some concensus. Republicans make an announcement about this time. Too funny. FU Tucker.
They also report that McCain didn't have much to say during the meetings.
Tucker Bounds, meet George W. Scruples.
I want to compare Tucker's looks to an animal, but I don't want to insult the animal.
kasinca @ 12:
83% of those polled believe this was nothing but a cheap political stunt. Since Bush has a 19% approval rating, this 83% must include some Bushies.
Chris Dodd just told David Gregory that today's meeting at the White House was a waste of time, designed simply to provide McCain a photo-op -- more political theater. Serious people have been working long hours to come to a consensus, and then McCain inserts himself and brings things to a screeching halt.
Teeeeeelegraphed....
ohsuzanna @ 14:
In fact, there was a deal, but John Boehner backed out when McCain came in and politicized this. Nice going Maverick.
tucker's diapers smell
Hes gonna be President Palin's press secretary if Obama somehow loses.
twocanpete @ 16:
Thank you for saying this. Too many people are letting Greenspan off the hook. I suppose it just goes with the public amnesia and lack of interest in American history. Greenspan started this crap over 20 years ago.
Chris Dodd is like an All-American safety on a losing football team.
He does, or tries to do, his job well.
His teammates let him down by their ineptness.
The other team? They're simply driving toward the goal. If the umps and field judges don't catch or care about the fouls, so what?
Rico @ 23:
Even Bob Corker seemed as though he was itching to call McCain a douche.
The American people aren't stupid enough to believe......
Oh wait, never mind......
LOL Since I heard about McCain's campaign suspension and "rush" trip to DC, I could a political turd brewing. John the Savior// what a crock! I can't believe anyone isn't asking why now!? I feel this was deliberately timed to impact the election. It ain't working the way they hoped, but how despicable.
All hail the Mighty McCain!!!
And for his next trick, he'll figure out how to send an email.
abc news is reporting that the deal is not made, and says mccain is torpedoing it. He'll apparently do anything to avoid debating obama.
Why does MSNBC give that clown any air time... tell the McCain campaign to provide one of the actual candidates if they want their comments aired.
Sometimes, mebbe you've noticed, Tucker seems to have a difficult time enunciating certain things.
This is because he has to keep Steve Schmidt's dick in his mouth at all times...
It's something they don't teach you in Binness Skuul...
pissed off patricia @ 17:
The people in Mississippi are saying that McCain is losing votes and will definitely lose a lot more if he doesn't show up. The Debate Commission says it is still on.
What a bunch of fucking slime bags. You really need to bury those Republican shitfucks in November.
I've never been more disgusted than right now with McCain's political posturing the obstructionsit Republican politicans in D.C. I've wasted a life time of votes electing a "three ring circus" of juvenile, self centered, immature JERKS. I HAVE HAD IT WITH THE GOP.
I do not like the bail out but at least it gives us a chance of salvaging a slumping economy! To do nothing issures we FAIL! These jerks would let our ONLY CHANCE of salvaging our economy fail rather than coopereate. I am outraged!
These people are nuts! How could I have been so blind!
Obama 08!
Suggestion: Don't trash McCain. It will change no votes.
Say why Obama will be a good prez -- not just better than McCain -- but good in an absolute sense.
Okay John Boy has it under control then let all the Democrats pack up in the morning and head home for the scheduled fall break.
McSame has everything in control! He engineered the mess and he can dig out the manure that has fallen.
I know a lot of people are concerned that McCain will vote against the bailout bill so he can re-claim his bullshit "Maverick" image. However, how can he vote against a "breakthrough" bill he's trying to take credit for?? Won't that be hard to spin?
It this deal McCain's 6th plane crash?
Looks like Tucker Bounds has taken the former job of Ken Mehlman: Steaming-sh*t-pile-shoveler-in-chief.
I'm really hoping the MSM picks up on the story as it unfolds, and not the one that the McCain campaign is spewing all over the airwaves (oh yeah, about that, what happened to suspending that campaign of yours, Johnnie?). It's looking very much like this is how events unfolded:
WEDNESDAY AM: Congress has a tough day of committee meeting on the Hill Wednesday.
WEDNESDAY PM: John McCain appears out of his crypt to announce that he is suspending his campaign and rushing to Washington (after stopping for a game of softball with Katie Couric, of course) to single-handedly solve the economic crisis.
THURSDAY AM: Senate Democrats and Republicans, after a fruitful day of hearings, strike a bargain on the legislation that will now include relief for mortgage-holders, caps on executive pay, more congressional oversight, and a staggered apportioning of funds to the Treasury. (Sounds pretty reasonable to me given the circumstances)
THURSDAY PM: John McCain, cranky after being woken up from his nap, strolls into town and flips out, demanding that the crisis be solved on his terms OR ELSE. House Republicans throw a hissy fit and say they won't play fair.
VietVet8666 @ 29:
Well, except that this isn't some inane sporting event, sarge...
We both know that.
It's the real thing. Life and death. We been there...
Mostly these folks haven't...Mostly I don't like metaphors for politics. Von Clausewitz called it "war by other means." That's good enough for me.
Tucker could tell me 2+2 is 4 and I'd want to slap the hell out of him. Does anyone think he's the least bit effective?
McCain will end up participating in the debate, but not without a lot of GOP stagecraft. The hard line Republican legislators who are most opposed to Bush's plan have coordinated with McCain's campaign staff to cut a deal at the last minute. They have also agreed in advance to credit McCain with brokering the critical breakthrough. It will be timed so that McCain can't fly to Alabama.
Instead McCain will agree to participate live via satellite from the Senate floor. The media will portray McCain as a patriotic hero, working tirelessly to broker a last minute deal and then still appear while exhausted to serve his nation in the debate. Watch the GOP stagecraft puppetmasters work their magic.
"83% of those polled believe this was nothing but a cheap political stunt. Since Bush has a 19% approval rating, this 83% must include some Bushies."
Yeah, but 46% of people today tell Gallup they're going to vote for McCain, equal to Obama. That number's more important. And the electoral college numbers will reflect that in a few days.
It's working.
Tucker knows no bounds.
ok ok (shrugs shoulders)
you know, Reid & Pelosi opened the door on all of this... Reid telling McCain that he needs to weigh in was complete BS... whyyy do we keep putting up with their incompetence???
He's lying. What the hell?!?
Critical Thinking 101:
If I boil some water and it rains tonight...
if A + B = C, and C > D, then you need to thank John McCain.
Woody at 45
I share your anger. I've simply tried to add some edge to the discussion.
Actually, I suspect that McCain will oppose any deal along woth the majority of republicans. This bailout is HUGELY unpopular with the voters, so since someone has to do SOMETHING, the dems will be forced to join with an unpopular president on an unpopular bailout, and McCain will campaign as the populist opposer of this "socialist disaster".
Tucker Bounds versus Sarah Palin in a titanic battle of COMPLETE MORONS.
"Tucker, Tucker, we love you..."
Is that actually professional journalism?
She treats him like he's some goofy adolescent. Well, OK, that is appropriate, but...
He's an amazing human being, he slept with Herbert Hoover, he invented the Blackberry, though he's unaware of the email feature, he singlehandedly solved the financial crisis he and his party created over the last 20+ years in a couple of minutes and he didn't even have to appear personally and didn't have to speak with his party's committee lead. Where Bill Frist is an ESP diagnostician, McCain is actually telekinetic!! Ms. Palin better watch her skirt!
McCain forcing a fumble on his own Hail Mary pass...
What??? People are really going to believe this........... This tucker dude is a complete dumb@ss
lol
hahaahaha
I just can't quit. lol
Sir Winston Churchill: "Truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, and ignorance may deridel it, but, in the end, there will be truth."
Truth to me: I can no longer trust or believe anyone in the "Chrisitan Right Evangelical Republican Party"
Obama, of course, is composed, but basically says that these kinds of things happen when you inject presidential campaign politics into a delicate decision-making process.
this dude is NOT cool and never has been cool. he spreads deception he serves NO positive purpose.
Are these the same people who assured us right after 9\11, "IRAQ!! IRAQ!! IRAQ!! IRAQ!! IRAQ!! IRAQ!! IRAQ THIS!! IRAQ THAT!!.....I-R-A-Q NOW,...OR WE DIE!!" ?
Joe H. @ 52:
Well, if both SQRT A and SQRT B are irrational, but C is rational, then we've got a mess. (Not really.)
Here's a neat little wacko conspiracy theory:
McCain is going to come out against the bail-out, and the Republicans are going to follow him in doing so. They're going to paint the bail-out as a huge money grab by Wall Street. Then they're going to paint the Democrats (who have worked for days to try to add oversight and such to the plan) as being complicit in giving huge amounts of tax-payer money to Wall Street, and ignore the role that they played in building the deal. Thus, they throw Bush under the bus and separate themselves from him in the minds of voters, thus shaking up Obama's "McCain is just like Bush" talking point and making themselves look like the white knights saving up from Wall Street's evils and bolstering McCain's numbers.
Meanwhile, the economy goes straight to hell, which they will blame on Democrats obstructing the bail-out plan even while they denounce the plan themselves. The MSM will eat it up.
Scott @ 54:
Bingo! Obstructionism at its finest!!!
Okay. let the banks fail. don't blink john!
VietVet8666 @ 7:
If McCain wins it will be the fault of Obama and the Demcratic Party. They have all the dirt they need to send him hightailing back to Arizona. They need to hit him hard over the Keating 5 Scandal and frame the man as a crook. They need to say that the only reason McCain is running for President is so that he can rip the American people off. They need to be brutal and aggressive and quit this nicey-nicey I am running a descent campaign garbage. They need to completely humiliate McCain and make him look like a total idiot. Americans like to watch people get humiliated and they like to side with the bully. They had the goods on Bush Jr. 2 elections in a row and decided to play softball. They lost; and, could easily lose this one if they try and run the nicey-nicey campaign.
Okay, this statement from Bound plays right into Barney Frank's comparing McCain to Andy Kaufman's routine on Mighty Mouse. Huff Post has this clip up and it had me almost falling off the chair laughing. Just picture McCain instead of Kaufman.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/25/barney-frank-gop-colleagu_n_129...
I'm encouraged that so much of what McCain't touches turns to crap.
Except they don't have a deal yet on the
bailoutswindle.If the Democrats pass something without the Republicans, which of course they could do, the Republicans being the Reptiles that they are would crucify the Dems as big government Socialists. Never mind who created the mess or whose proposal it is do this supposed repair.
Socialists they all are, they are Corporate Socialists.
If the Republicans sign on they might do the
dealSWINDLE.Either way they will be crucified by l'il ol' me.
Here is Ralph Nader speaking about the bailout. For anyone who wonders what Nader does between Presidential elections, he studies and writes up a storm about these very issues. For anyone that thinks that Nader is irrelevent, you owe it to yourself and the country to watch this video. Nader knows more about these issues than almost anyone alive.
He also knows what to do about it now, how to protect us, John and Mary Q Public, NOW and in the future.
Whether I persuade or get one more vote for Nader, you will learn something.
If you learn something and you stick with the Republicrats, maybe you can have an effect on them, though I wouldn't be optimistic.
Nader is not an angry old man as some ill informed have suggested, or some sort of traitor as some others of the shrill mentality have suggested. He is not a person driven by a great ego, as the standard Democrat response has it but rather a person who cares deeply about his country and knows what to do to help.
WATCH THE VIDEO AND LEARN SOMETHING!
CLOWNS. The sideshow was put on "hold" while McGrampa rushed to Washington to save the world! Excuse me while I puke. Up is down, evil is good, black is white, right cons? You're a bunch of pathetic losers, with the BIGGEST LOSER Bush and his clone, McGrampa.
V @ 64:
that works too
btw, I just could not watch David Gregory with Joe S and Michele bernard. blech. gop pr.
upchuck @ 66:
If McCain wins, he will establish that in American politics, reason does not prevail.
Which is quite possible.
Sorry Tucker! After hearing some of the things that have come out of John McCains mouth over the last six months regarding his economic knowledge or lack thereof, he is the last person i want as an advocate on my behalf regarding this economic bail-out.
VietVet8666 @ 40:
Um, bullsh@t. Negative works here. Sorry if you don't believe that, but lots of people believe things that aren't true and don't believe things that are.
In an ideal world, people would be into politics, positivity, and details--in which case, your suggestions would be great--but the US is far, far away from such an ideal. We can't even see it from the coast of Alaska.
woody, tokin librul @ 45:
Shark jumping there, woody.
The quote is "War is merely a continuation of politics"— or "of policy"—"by other means." Not vice versa. There's a big difference.
And it's not a metaphor. If the quote was, "War is a tool in the political toolbox," you'd have a metaphor.
McCain doesn't have a clue:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcZSh1diQRQ
VietVet8666 @ 72:
That happened a long time ago. "Wake up."
Let me guess:
This babbling little shit filibustered breathlessly for as long as could and let the host talk as little as possible, right? This wasn't a conversation, it was just free air time for turdboy to talk talk talk and get out the talking points, RIGHT?
Ugh. These people make me almost as sick and the voters who actually believe this garbage.
Guess I should watch it now...
So basically McCain panicked over the recent polls, canceled the debate and fled to Washington where he as predicted accomplished nothing. And now his campaign is in full spin-mode to paint McCain as the great hero, the unselfish courageous leader who puts country before politics and saved the economy.
Priceless! Are Americans really that stupid they fall for this? If so then you really deserve four more years
One of the two reasons I've resolved to never trust anyone named Tucker.
I believe John McCain will do something mavericky to solve this problem.
He'll summon Paris Hilton to DC and assign her to head the committee.
Maybe you do things differently down there in the US, but if McCain suspended his campaign this morning, why is this spokesperson of his still getting air time on your public airways?
Rancid,
I'm basically on your side.
No point attacking me, but do it if it feels good.
Tucker: L-I-A-R and a few other choice four letter words.
Tucker and his backdrop made me puke. I want to see this tool thrashed by Campbell Brown again.
A New "Ex-Republican" @ 39:
Well, don't be too hard on yourself as the American dream, the pursuit of happiness, is an adolescent goal versus the democratic dream of the inidividual as a DISINTERESTED participant in the establishment, protection and nurturing of the public good/common weal. Welcome to adulthood and you can thank Tricky Dick for starting the slide (the dismantling of the Bretton Woods agreement post WWII) and Ronnie Rayguns (the dissociated shill for GE and special interests) for preparing the way for the moronic warmongering C student who is an archetypal example of arrested adolescence. He's also a war criminal (see the invasion of Poland circa 1939). Best wishes.
Canuknotusa @ 82:
b/c down here, free speech is sometimes taken to mean you can say whatever you want without having to make any sense... home of the knave, baby...