As Predicted: Tucker Bounds tries to say that McCain is responsible for breaking the bailout stalemate
By SilentPatriot Wednesday Sep 24, 2008 4:45pm
We knew this was coming.....
Exaggeration and truth-stretching is standard fare in politicking, but McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds took it to a new level today when he told Andrea Mitchell that John McCain's selfless act of leadership in coming back to Washington single-handedly helped push through negotiations on the bailout bill. Nevermind the fact that McCain still hasn't contacted the ranking Republican on the Banking Committee, Richard Shelby, and that his campaign is very much still in effect... John McCain put country first and personally saved the economy from disaster. Give me a break.
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"Before John McCain suspended his campaign yesterday, the situation that we're looking at today looked very different then. After he showed leadership and called for bipartisanship, and called for us to put partisanship aside and tackle this solution, here we are."
Barney Frank said earlier today that 'White House photo-op designed to help McCain.'
“All of a sudden, now that we’re on the verge of making a deal, John McCain drops himself in to make a deal," Frank said. "I really worry about this politicization of it....We're trying to rescue the economy, not the McCain campaign.
McCain was only interfering with the negotiations.
Rep. Barney Frank told a group of reporters outside the House chamber: "It's the longest Hail Mary pass in the history of either football or Marys."
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Bingo. Called it in the last McCain thread. Not that it wasn't obvious to everyone already...
MSM is reporting that things got bungled in the Whitehouse and there is no deal. Someone ought to tell Tucker Bounds.
he should be ashamed
Yesterday most parties already heavily involved in the negotiations were delivering credible reports that a deal was close. Twenty-four hours later, after McCain inserted himself, it's fallen apart. Good job, John.
Hurray for St. McCain! He can do anything! After he saves the world, maybe he can fix my lawnmower.
Tucker Bounds needs to be bitch-slapped. What a lying, jackass. I'm sure his mother is proud of him; assuming he was born and not hatched...
If McCain comes out against the bailout, he'll win. Period.
If the market goes up, he'll paint it as a giveaway to Wall Street.
If the market goes down, he paint it as a failed giveaway.
WAKE UP!
The so-called bailout is a gift to Repubs. Look at the House Repubs. They're corrupt, but they're not stupid.
Why does Opie always have a flag behind him?
The traitor should have a shot of San Quentin behind him.
More on topic, good thing McCain's campaign put politics aside. They must be breaking some kind of record for lying aren't they?
There is no deal. Back to the drawing board. Now that's it's been a week and the world hasn't ended maybe everyone should take a deep breath and actually think about this first.
Tucker Bounds. That poor, pathetic lame little feeb. Keep trying, Tucker--one day you'll play in the Pop Warner league with the 11 year olds.
Whatever they had originally agreed on was already done by the time McCain even got to Washington. He showed up for the photo. Now there are 'problems'.
Its a safe bet to say some republican someone wants to hang things up so gramps can jump in and save the day and take credit for it. I don't think the American people are buying it.
Someone tell this little squirrel that his hail mary hasn't worked, McSame didn't get to DC until they thought there was a plan. The WH is trying to help the McSame campaign. It is all for show. The GOP do not have the country in their interest. They have nothing to offer by smoke an mirrors. If McSame has something to say, why doesn't he go to the debate and discuss it in front of the American voters instead of lying, cheating, republicans who have spent any credibility they ever had. They are crooks, liars, and cowards...even the POW.
The Republicans brought in a new deal into the Whitehouse and Democrats were upset because they thought they had an agreement on the first deal. And we trust these people to run our country and make decisions on our behalf. Clusterf**k.
Yeah, there is no deal Tucker. So put the white horse away and start shoveling the horses**t.
Jesus...
Welp...TIME FOR THE DEBATES!
No more obstacles!
This is perfect. The wife of the idiot who was one of the chief architecht of this mess (i.e. Alan Greenspan) interview another repub stooge!
I put this comment on the previous thread but it really belongs here
I have been watching Sen. Dodd being interviewed on cnn. He said today they were working out a core issue about the bailout and he thought everyone was going to agree to it. But out of nowhere comes some sort of press release from the repubs in the House that changed the core issue and this came as a result of something McCain had added. According to Dodd things got contentious for a while. Now Dodd feels they are almost back to step one. He said he’s tired and you could tell he was angry. He feels like McCain pulled some political ploy and now the repubs are supporting him. He feels like the rug of all their previous work has been pulled out from under him. I don’t blame him for being pissed.
One has to wonder if McCain did this on purpose to delay a final vote on the bill so he could stay in DC tomorrow and tomorrow night without looking like a total debate coward. At this point I would put nothing past him. He’s like the thing that just keeps bugging you and won’t go away.
Tucker "My Lies Know No" Bounds. Meh.
BTW, you'll know McCain's influence on this legislation by all of the references to "bombs", "Iran", "War", "Russia", and "POW".
Helena Montana @ 10:
CNN is reporting the chronology accurately. McCain shows up at the time Republicans and Democrats come to some concensus. Republicans make an announcement about this time. Too funny. FU Tucker.
They also report that McCain didn't have much to say during the meetings.
Tucker Bounds, meet George W. Scruples.
I want to compare Tucker's looks to an animal, but I don't want to insult the animal.
kasinca @ 12:
83% of those polled believe this was nothing but a cheap political stunt. Since Bush has a 19% approval rating, this 83% must include some Bushies.
Chris Dodd just told David Gregory that today's meeting at the White House was a waste of time, designed simply to provide McCain a photo-op -- more political theater. Serious people have been working long hours to come to a consensus, and then McCain inserts himself and brings things to a screeching halt.
Teeeeeelegraphed....
ohsuzanna @ 14:
In fact, there was a deal, but John Boehner backed out when McCain came in and politicized this. Nice going Maverick.
tucker's diapers smell
Hes gonna be President Palin's press secretary if Obama somehow loses.
twocanpete @ 16:
Thank you for saying this. Too many people are letting Greenspan off the hook. I suppose it just goes with the public amnesia and lack of interest in American history. Greenspan started this crap over 20 years ago.
Chris Dodd is like an All-American safety on a losing football team.
He does, or tries to do, his job well.
His teammates let him down by their ineptness.
The other team? They're simply driving toward the goal. If the umps and field judges don't catch or care about the fouls, so what?
Rico @ 23:
Even Bob Corker seemed as though he was itching to call McCain a douche.
The American people aren't stupid enough to believe......
Oh wait, never mind......
LOL Since I heard about McCain's campaign suspension and "rush" trip to DC, I could a political turd brewing. John the Savior// what a crock! I can't believe anyone isn't asking why now!? I feel this was deliberately timed to impact the election. It ain't working the way they hoped, but how despicable.
All hail the Mighty McCain!!!
And for his next trick, he'll figure out how to send an email.
abc news is reporting that the deal is not made, and says mccain is torpedoing it. He'll apparently do anything to avoid debating obama.
Why does MSNBC give that clown any air time... tell the McCain campaign to provide one of the actual candidates if they want their comments aired.
Sometimes, mebbe you've noticed, Tucker seems to have a difficult time enunciating certain things.
This is because he has to keep Steve Schmidt's dick in his mouth at all times...
It's something they don't teach you in Binness Skuul...
pissed off patricia @ 17:
The people in Mississippi are saying that McCain is losing votes and will definitely lose a lot more if he doesn't show up. The Debate Commission says it is still on.
What a bunch of fucking slime bags. You really need to bury those Republican shitfucks in November.
I've never been more disgusted than right now with McCain's political posturing the obstructionsit Republican politicans in D.C. I've wasted a life time of votes electing a "three ring circus" of juvenile, self centered, immature JERKS. I HAVE HAD IT WITH THE GOP.
I do not like the bail out but at least it gives us a chance of salvaging a slumping economy! To do nothing issures we FAIL! These jerks would let our ONLY CHANCE of salvaging our economy fail rather than coopereate. I am outraged!
These people are nuts! How could I have been so blind!
Obama 08!
Suggestion: Don't trash McCain. It will change no votes.
Say why Obama will be a good prez -- not just better than McCain -- but good in an absolute sense.
Okay John Boy has it under control then let all the Democrats pack up in the morning and head home for the scheduled fall break.
McSame has everything in control! He engineered the mess and he can dig out the manure that has fallen.
I know a lot of people are concerned that McCain will vote against the bailout bill so he can re-claim his bullshit "Maverick" image. However, how can he vote against a "breakthrough" bill he's trying to take credit for?? Won't that be hard to spin?
It this deal McCain's 6th plane crash?
Looks like Tucker Bounds has taken the former job of Ken Mehlman: Steaming-sh*t-pile-shoveler-in-chief.
I'm really hoping the MSM picks up on the story as it unfolds, and not the one that the McCain campaign is spewing all over the airwaves (oh yeah, about that, what happened to suspending that campaign of yours, Johnnie?). It's looking very much like this is how events unfolded:
WEDNESDAY AM: Congress has a tough day of committee meeting on the Hill Wednesday.
WEDNESDAY PM: John McCain appears out of his crypt to announce that he is suspending his campaign and rushing to Washington (after stopping for a game of softball with Katie Couric, of course) to single-handedly solve the economic crisis.
THURSDAY AM: Senate Democrats and Republicans, after a fruitful day of hearings, strike a bargain on the legislation that will now include relief for mortgage-holders, caps on executive pay, more congressional oversight, and a staggered apportioning of funds to the Treasury. (Sounds pretty reasonable to me given the circumstances)
THURSDAY PM: John McCain, cranky after being woken up from his nap, strolls into town and flips out, demanding that the crisis be solved on his terms OR ELSE. House Republicans throw a hissy fit and say they won't play fair.
VietVet8666 @ 29:
Well, except that this isn't some inane sporting event, sarge...
We both know that.
It's the real thing. Life and death. We been there...
Mostly these folks haven't...Mostly I don't like metaphors for politics. Von Clausewitz called it "war by other means." That's good enough for me.
Tucker could tell me 2+2 is 4 and I'd want to slap the hell out of him. Does anyone think he's the least bit effective?
McCain will end up participating in the debate, but not without a lot of GOP stagecraft. The hard line Republican legislators who are most opposed to Bush's plan have coordinated with McCain's campaign staff to cut a deal at the last minute. They have also agreed in advance to credit McCain with brokering the critical breakthrough. It will be timed so that McCain can't fly to Alabama.
Instead McCain will agree to participate live via satellite from the Senate floor. The media will portray McCain as a patriotic hero, working tirelessly to broker a last minute deal and then still appear while exhausted to serve his nation in the debate. Watch the GOP stagecraft puppetmasters work their magic.
"83% of those polled believe this was nothing but a cheap political stunt. Since Bush has a 19% approval rating, this 83% must include some Bushies."
Yeah, but 46% of people today tell Gallup they're going to vote for McCain, equal to Obama. That number's more important. And the electoral college numbers will reflect that in a few days.
It's working.
Tucker knows no bounds.
ok ok (shrugs shoulders)
you know, Reid & Pelosi opened the door on all of this... Reid telling McCain that he needs to weigh in was complete BS... whyyy do we keep putting up with their incompetence???
He's lying. What the hell?!?
Critical Thinking 101:
If I boil some water and it rains tonight...
if A + B = C, and C > D, then you need to thank John McCain.
Woody at 45
I share your anger. I've simply tried to add some edge to the discussion.
Actually, I suspect that McCain will oppose any deal along woth the majority of republicans. This bailout is HUGELY unpopular with the voters, so since someone has to do SOMETHING, the dems will be forced to join with an unpopular president on an unpopular bailout, and McCain will campaign as the populist opposer of this "socialist disaster".
Tucker Bounds versus Sarah Palin in a titanic battle of COMPLETE MORONS.
"Tucker, Tucker, we love you..."
Is that actually professional journalism?
She treats him like he's some goofy adolescent. Well, OK, that is appropriate, but...
He's an amazing human being, he slept with Herbert Hoover, he invented the Blackberry, though he's unaware of the email feature, he singlehandedly solved the financial crisis he and his party created over the last 20+ years in a couple of minutes and he didn't even have to appear personally and didn't have to speak with his party's committee lead. Where Bill Frist is an ESP diagnostician, McCain is actually telekinetic!! Ms. Palin better watch her skirt!
McCain forcing a fumble on his own Hail Mary pass...
What??? People are really going to believe this........... This tucker dude is a complete dumb@ss
lol
hahaahaha
I just can't quit. lol
Sir Winston Churchill: "Truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, and ignorance may deridel it, but, in the end, there will be truth."
Truth to me: I can no longer trust or believe anyone in the "Chrisitan Right Evangelical Republican Party"
Obama, of course, is composed, but basically says that these kinds of things happen when you inject presidential campaign politics into a delicate decision-making process.
this dude is NOT cool and never has been cool. he spreads deception he serves NO positive purpose.
Are these the same people who assured us right after 9\11, "IRAQ!! IRAQ!! IRAQ!! IRAQ!! IRAQ!! IRAQ!! IRAQ THIS!! IRAQ THAT!!.....I-R-A-Q NOW,...OR WE DIE!!" ?
Joe H. @ 52:
Well, if both SQRT A and SQRT B are irrational, but C is rational, then we've got a mess. (Not really.)
Here's a neat little wacko conspiracy theory:
McCain is going to come out against the bail-out, and the Republicans are going to follow him in doing so. They're going to paint the bail-out as a huge money grab by Wall Street. Then they're going to paint the Democrats (who have worked for days to try to add oversight and such to the plan) as being complicit in giving huge amounts of tax-payer money to Wall Street, and ignore the role that they played in building the deal. Thus, they throw Bush under the bus and separate themselves from him in the minds of voters, thus shaking up Obama's "McCain is just like Bush" talking point and making themselves look like the white knights saving up from Wall Street's evils and bolstering McCain's numbers.
Meanwhile, the economy goes straight to hell, which they will blame on Democrats obstructing the bail-out plan even while they denounce the plan themselves. The MSM will eat it up.
Scott @ 54:
Bingo! Obstructionism at its finest!!!
Okay. let the banks fail. don't blink john!
VietVet8666 @ 7:
If McCain wins it will be the fault of Obama and the Demcratic Party. They have all the dirt they need to send him hightailing back to Arizona. They need to hit him hard over the Keating 5 Scandal and frame the man as a crook. They need to say that the only reason McCain is running for President is so that he can rip the American people off. They need to be brutal and aggressive and quit this nicey-nicey I am running a descent campaign garbage. They need to completely humiliate McCain and make him look like a total idiot. Americans like to watch people get humiliated and they like to side with the bully. They had the goods on Bush Jr. 2 elections in a row and decided to play softball. They lost; and, could easily lose this one if they try and run the nicey-nicey campaign.
Okay, this statement from Bound plays right into Barney Frank's comparing McCain to Andy Kaufman's routine on Mighty Mouse. Huff Post has this clip up and it had me almost falling off the chair laughing. Just picture McCain instead of Kaufman.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/25/barney-frank-gop-colleagu_n_129...
I'm encouraged that so much of what McCain't touches turns to crap.
Except they don't have a deal yet on the
bailoutswindle.If the Democrats pass something without the Republicans, which of course they could do, the Republicans being the Reptiles that they are would crucify the Dems as big government Socialists. Never mind who created the mess or whose proposal it is do this supposed repair.
Socialists they all are, they are Corporate Socialists.
If the Republicans sign on they might do the
dealSWINDLE.Either way they will be crucified by l'il ol' me.
Here is Ralph Nader speaking about the bailout. For anyone who wonders what Nader does between Presidential elections, he studies and writes up a storm about these very issues. For anyone that thinks that Nader is irrelevent, you owe it to yourself and the country to watch this video. Nader knows more about these issues than almost anyone alive.
He also knows what to do about it now, how to protect us, John and Mary Q Public, NOW and in the future.
Whether I persuade or get one more vote for Nader, you will learn something.
If you learn something and you stick with the Republicrats, maybe you can have an effect on them, though I wouldn't be optimistic.
Nader is not an angry old man as some ill informed have suggested, or some sort of traitor as some others of the shrill mentality have suggested. He is not a person driven by a great ego, as the standard Democrat response has it but rather a person who cares deeply about his country and knows what to do to help.
WATCH THE VIDEO AND LEARN SOMETHING!
CLOWNS. The sideshow was put on "hold" while McGrampa rushed to Washington to save the world! Excuse me while I puke. Up is down, evil is good, black is white, right cons? You're a bunch of pathetic losers, with the BIGGEST LOSER Bush and his clone, McGrampa.
V @ 64:
that works too
btw, I just could not watch David Gregory with Joe S and Michele bernard. blech. gop pr.
upchuck @ 66:
If McCain wins, he will establish that in American politics, reason does not prevail.
Which is quite possible.
Sorry Tucker! After hearing some of the things that have come out of John McCains mouth over the last six months regarding his economic knowledge or lack thereof, he is the last person i want as an advocate on my behalf regarding this economic bail-out.
VietVet8666 @ 40:
Um, bullsh@t. Negative works here. Sorry if you don't believe that, but lots of people believe things that aren't true and don't believe things that are.
In an ideal world, people would be into politics, positivity, and details--in which case, your suggestions would be great--but the US is far, far away from such an ideal. We can't even see it from the coast of Alaska.
woody, tokin librul @ 45:
Shark jumping there, woody.
The quote is "War is merely a continuation of politics"— or "of policy"—"by other means." Not vice versa. There's a big difference.
And it's not a metaphor. If the quote was, "War is a tool in the political toolbox," you'd have a metaphor.
McCain doesn't have a clue:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcZSh1diQRQ
VietVet8666 @ 72:
That happened a long time ago. "Wake up."
Let me guess:
This babbling little shit filibustered breathlessly for as long as could and let the host talk as little as possible, right? This wasn't a conversation, it was just free air time for turdboy to talk talk talk and get out the talking points, RIGHT?
Ugh. These people make me almost as sick and the voters who actually believe this garbage.
Guess I should watch it now...
So basically McCain panicked over the recent polls, canceled the debate and fled to Washington where he as predicted accomplished nothing. And now his campaign is in full spin-mode to paint McCain as the great hero, the unselfish courageous leader who puts country before politics and saved the economy.
Priceless! Are Americans really that stupid they fall for this? If so then you really deserve four more years
One of the two reasons I've resolved to never trust anyone named Tucker.
I believe John McCain will do something mavericky to solve this problem.
He'll summon Paris Hilton to DC and assign her to head the committee.
Maybe you do things differently down there in the US, but if McCain suspended his campaign this morning, why is this spokesperson of his still getting air time on your public airways?
Rancid,
I'm basically on your side.
No point attacking me, but do it if it feels good.
Tucker: L-I-A-R and a few other choice four letter words.
Tucker and his backdrop made me puke. I want to see this tool thrashed by Campbell Brown again.
A New "Ex-Republican" @ 39:
Well, don't be too hard on yourself as the American dream, the pursuit of happiness, is an adolescent goal versus the democratic dream of the inidividual as a DISINTERESTED participant in the establishment, protection and nurturing of the public good/common weal. Welcome to adulthood and you can thank Tricky Dick for starting the slide (the dismantling of the Bretton Woods agreement post WWII) and Ronnie Rayguns (the dissociated shill for GE and special interests) for preparing the way for the moronic warmongering C student who is an archetypal example of arrested adolescence. He's also a war criminal (see the invasion of Poland circa 1939). Best wishes.
Canuknotusa @ 82:
b/c down here, free speech is sometimes taken to mean you can say whatever you want without having to make any sense... home of the knave, baby...
rcm @ 32:
This is only Act 1 of three Acts: Hold back the worst economic news in history until September and figure a way to allow McCain (and the Republicans in Congress) to ride to the rescue and save the country -- the September surprise. Doesn't look like it will work.
Act 2 will be the October surprises...most likely a long series of elevated alerts (ORANGE) based on several "unspecified, credible threats." They worked well in October 2004. Ask John Kerry.
Act 3 plays out on November 4 with voter surpression and election fraud.
Mccain WASNT EVEN THERE YET and they had ALREADY made a deal! This is insanity
You know, if I had it, I'd give John McCain a check for 7 Trillion dollars, so he could continue with his valiant efforts to save our economy. He is some kind of a hero, I'll tell you. And you know, he also knows how to catch Osama Bin Laden!!! All we have to do is elect him. Now excuse me, while I go puke. This man knows no shame. No Shame McCain. There's a monicker for ya.
is this the professional liar that got a beatdown from
campbell brown?
No - Give me a break SilentPatriot...
The lies are being believe by the majority of the voters -
In fact latest poll shows 56% of voters believing McCain!
==> They don't read, nor watch, nor listen to us. <==
Please if you haven't yet - Please read the following...
“We’re Gonna Frickin’ Lose This Thing”
Zogby poll today - McCain 46% Obama 44%
Plus - Don't forget about... The 32 Words...
“Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are
non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not
be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency.”
If you do not understand the import of those 32 words, then follow the link.
Please someone , a pie in the face , a wet mop , a right cross , a baseball bat ... anything ! What is it with these Newts , Mitts , Biffs and Tuckers ? Chronic straight faced liars .
VietVet8666 @ 7:
No chance in hell. Regardless what he does this looks like he's wimping out on the debates. He knows he'll get crushed on the economy. The man is running scared. Secondly, the majority of people believe this economic mess is because of him and his party. Finally, the extreme right are stupid as hell. They're buying this crap from McCain.
Country first my ass. Regardless of what you think of this bailout, McCain will do what's best for his election and not what's best for the country. Just like when he picked Palin. This woman has no right being VP let alone any office. She pro-life and that is it.
The man who don't know how many homes he owns, figured out an extremely complex problem, on fixing a very complex economy (by design).
HE SAVED US! McLame!! McLame!! All hail McLame!!
Musings:
1. Obama is just plain more honest! He would never approve such crap to come out of his press secretary. He'd rather have maintain a conscience than be President. I truly believe that, and I respect him for that. Granted about 50% of the country's voters do not care for such things.
2. McCain is just looking silly, blustery and plain undignified. Again, about 50% of the country's voters will rally and pretend otherwise.
3. I wonder how much did the Republican party had pay for Sarah's visits with Kissinger, and the others yesterday in NYC, to make her look, well, like she knows something.
4. I bet Tucker got beat up a lot in high school, saw the inside of a lot of trashcans. Just the kind of little lying POS that made himself a target.
Alice X - (Click Here for Nader Debate What If) - status quObama - change you can pretend in - @ 69:
I could vote for Ralph.
WOW. Tucker Bounds is my favorite moron. When this is all over, and there is a smoldering crater where John McSpain used to be politically, I wanna see Tucker get his own sitcom. We can put it on the UPN and call it: POWERFUL STUPID.
mattviator @ 89:
Thats how good the Maverick is. Just his public declaration to "suspend" his campaign and haste to Washington to save the economy was enough to unite Republicans and Democrats behind a deal.
Is McPain a POS or
Full of shite?
or All of the Above
Mike @ 92:
Feel free to ignore all national polls. They're meaningless.
Actually, the Democrats have been making a big point about that. As has Obama. Even McCain mentioned it as a bad idea. So, it's not like it's being ignored. It's terrifying, and it should be blatantly obvious as a Bushevik Administration power grab, but it's not being ignored.
Tucker Bounds = A f'in weasel
pissed off patricia @ 17:
Yes, he did. We all smelled it as a political plot last night. McCain has no interest in helping the economy. He did this because of the falling poll numbers and the fact that his campaign took a beating.
The man is ruthless and plays dirty. And because of this meltdown yesterday, the GOP leaders got all of their folks to go in lock-step in order to plug the holes in the sinking ship. And that means, Bush had to play his part too with this "meeting nonsense".
So Dodd hits it on the money.
But, I hope that the larger picture emerges that McCain is truly a coward who has to hide behind the skirts of party officials. He doesn't have what it takes to lead. And if this is an example of is leadership ability, it is Obama's to lose.
The only problem here is that there are people out there who are sympathetic with McCain's move and are easily swayed by this nonsense. And that is rather sad. :(
#5 FG: Maybe he can speed up my wireless!
We are doomed. McCain decides to show up for the first time in months and wants a fucking cookie for doing so. Although Obama hasn't been much better.
Is this the best this country can do for a Presidential candidate? McCain/Palin? WTF?!?
I never thought I'd witness the collapse of the United States in my lifetime.
galmud @ 98:
Wonder when the little twerp will call "time-in"?
It is extremely frustrating that Andrea Mitchell halfheartedly challenged this nerd on his load of bs and then let him go on. When are the media heads going to start laughing at these people and calling them on their lies in a more definitive way? Aaargh!
I am just wondering how wide the gulf is, between the educated and the uneducated, in the states? Seeing that the polls are still relatively close, I would assume that nearly half of America nods their head in aggreement with Tucker Bounds. Therefore I am left to assume that 47 percent of America is enlightened, 45% is retarded and 9% are overweight.
P.S. I just noticed that Retarded, Republican, and Red State all start with (Re).
Rediculious, religious, ect....
He was in New York. He came back for the 4:00 meeting with the president and the rest of the congressional delegation. He did no work on the package. He had not even read it. Does no one in the media follow this stuff? How about a direct question to McCain like, " what did you contribute to final product?" "Wen did you do it?"
VietVet8666 @ 7:
No. You're a gift to the Republicans.
With that said, please explain why Nader has taken money from the GOP.
From the WaPo:
McCain's "Straight Talk Air" landed at National Airport just after noon, and McCain's motorcade sped toward the Senate. But by then, senior Democrats and Republicans were already announcing that a deal in principle had been reached.
That news appeared to be somewhat premature as House Republican leader John Boehner told his members that "no deal" had yet been reached. McCain arrived at 3:40 p.m. at the White House, where he and his rival, Sen. Barack Obama, were scheduled to meet with President Bush and congressional leaders at 4 p.m.
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But for most of the afternoon, McCain has not visibly been part of the action on the issue. He was not present when House and Senate negotiators emerged from a two-hour meeting to declare success. That announcement was made by Sen. Christopher J. Dodd (D-Conn.), chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, Sen. Robert F. Bennett (Utah) [Republican- AK] and Frank.
McCain, by contrast, spent some time in his office with several Republican colleagues, briefly stopped at Boehner's office, then left for lunch at the Capitol's Mansfield Room before returning to his office in the Russell Senate Office Building.
Reads like a hijacking to me.
Tuuuker... Tuuuuuuuuuuuker....
F... F...
No... no I won't say it... must not type that word...
F...
...ucker...
abarts @ 104:
I didn't either, except I'm of the opinion that the collapse of the US happened under Bush-Cheney. McCain-Palin is (as the Daily Show says) just turd frosting on a shit cake.
I expect McPain burst into the meeting room, waving his cane, false teeth clacking, left eye still drooping due to the frying pan Cindy walloped it with, and screamed "I was a POW for 5 1/2 years!" All gone agreement.
milquetoast @ 97:
milquetoast @ 97:
Ditto. His analysis of corporatist (read "special interest groups"/failed elites) America is right on the mark. The last time I saw him on the boob-tube was just after the 2004 election when he was buttonholed by a reporter for his reaction. He said simply, "There is a revolution coming in the United States." Prescient or what?
milquetoast @ 97:
I voted for Nader in 2000 and 2004. I was planning on voting for Nader again. When Corporate Amerika tried to add Hillary to the ticket as Obama's babysitter; I decided to give Obama a second look. Anybody that Corporate Amerika hates, fears, loathes is O.K. in books.
Hey Tucker:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/25/campaign.wrap/index.html
A New "Ex-Republican" @ 39:
Oh great!!!another wall street republican looking for a bailout!
Here is some advice...cash in the 401-k...(take the penalty) ...and roll it over into defense contractor stocks...Or oil. like Cheney does!
Bailout or not, your portfolio is fucked, and this bailout will just give us a little time....(like till november and thats it)
Loonie @ 38, you say it best. I thank you.
looks like JP morgan buying WaMu deposits....the
government is involved some how some way.
douche bag
–noun
a small syringe having detachable nozzles for fluid injections, used chiefly for vaginal lavage and for enemas.
See: Tucker Bounds
CMINCA @ 113:
The United States collapsed a long time ago. It just takes awhile for reality to sink in.
Our healthcare system collapsed a long time ago.
Our education system (to include our universities) collapsed a long time ago.
Our military cannot fight its way out of a sandbox. Imagine if they had to go up against a real country like China or Russia.
Our standard of living has fell every year since the early 1970s.
I could go on; but, what's the point.
The point is this; when you talk about failed institutions like healthcare or education you are saying the same kinds of things that were said about the old Soviet Union.
Dear Senator Bunglefuck,
I need some money. Wait, I'll just pull a figure out of my ass -- here it is -- $700,000.00. You need to give it to me now or I will wreck the economy.
Yours truly,
Bud "Badass" Zadusky
Neo-classical secular humanist @ 115:
Oh, yeah, one helluva revolution going on. This thread used to be about McCain's surrogates claiming their guy's role as savior of the economy. Then you guys had a revolution, and the thread is about...what?
Why doesn't Nader run for the House or the Senate? Not necessary the federal offices, either, but even for his state legislature? Governor? Mayor? Councilman? Surely those would be great places to introduce some revolutionary legislation, no?
If you are against this bail out as the other 90% of Americans are, keep the pressure on all of your elected representatives by writing, faxing or sending letters even calling. They are listening and it is working. Be polite, but let them know in clear English. You pass this garbage and you can start packing now. We're Americans and we VOTE!
They really think that this is going to fly? Just because they say? John McCain didn't break the bailout stalemate! If anything CAUSED the entire meltdown with all his pushing for de-regulations.
milquetoast @ 117:
Bad advice in so many ways. You can, never, ever cash out your 401k, unless you are a complete dumbass. You may be able to select a fund that concentrates in a certain industry, such as tech, international, defense. I won't go into the fact that defense contractor stocks have fallen all week, you can do your own homeword. Cheney's money is in a blind trust, so is Bush's for that matter. I really hate that most Dems have absolutely no idea what they are talking about when it comes to finances. It is embarrassing and cringeworthy.
"necessarily"
Bounds: "We were really on the brink of a serious, cataclysmic meltdown."
Past tense. Thank you John McCain.
upchuck @ 122:
Yes, and ironically we are stuck in perpetual war in Afghanistan just as they were (plus Iraq and probably Pakistan).
All hail the Republican shill !
And if you don't then you're a terrorist / a traitor / a communist / un-American / part of the Axis of Evil
Welcome to the Divided States of Amerikkka
/sarcasm
Wow! Go, McSame!
Now what he really needs to do to help prop up his campaign is a glad-handing walking tour of Bagdad and Falluhjea, just to let the citizens there know how instrumental he has been in the "surge" bringing "peace and prosperity" to Iraq. A nice photo-op like that is bound to help his campaign here in the United States, too. (Of course, the "hundred years" or "thousand years" of American troops occupation there was nothing more than yet another misquote by that "libral" MSM. Just as soon as the Iraqi government grants exclusive oil field development rights, along with Production Sharing Agreements that supersedes Iraqi sovereignty to USA oil companies, his "mission" IS Accomplished. On his way back here, he could stop off in Georgia to help support their version of preemptive "Operation Freedom".
With any luck, Sarah Palin will be the only half of the GOP ticket to survive on November 04. I think she is destined to be another Spiro Agnew, once the Alaskan investigations start digging deeper. She could select Jeb Bush as her VP replacement, subject to approval by the 110th Congressional Senate, which would tilt to a simple GOP minority once Liberman flips parties. Yet another Bush Crime Family president not elected "by the people", don't you know. Then good old Tricky-Dick Cheney could step in as his non-Executive branch Vice President, just to help stabilize our government in these troubling economic times. The problem that every two-term GOP president has regarding criminal wrongdoing following them could be cancelled (for a third time) by pardons from the incoming GOP president.
If that is not THE Rovian/Machiavellian NeoCon wet-dream, tell me what IS! (Please!)
/sarcasm
If his campaign is suspended why is his mouthpiece on the news?
Don From Canada @ 108:
Great point!
The RE-pugnant, RE-ligious, RE-diculious, RE-tarded, RE-sentful, RE-publican's in the
RE-d states esteem the RE-publican Party, and it's GOP leadership, to Diety status. They believe the party is "Ordained of God" for Christians and their social issues. To question ANY Republican, for any reason, is Blasphameny; it would be like "SINNING" agasinst the Holy Ghost and thus they would burn in hell for eternity without hope.
CMINCA @ 127:
Take comfort in the fact that I was giving bad advice to a republican who has switched sides cuz he wants his portfolio saved. (my little bit of money has been converted to gold and silver.
Defense contractor stocks are morally wrong, but I will maintain that they are probably the best advice for anyone (who has no scruples)
Howard Fineman on MSNBC said that his reporting tells him that most (40 out of 49 GOP senators) and most of the GOP house agreed with the DEMs, then McCain came into town and fired up the GOP house congressman and now there's no deal. If this is true it could be then end of McSame, the final nail in the coffin. Sorry no link but i bet it will be mentioned on Countdown tonight.
CMINCA @ 130:
Doubly ironic the British Empire was fighting wars in both Afghanistan and Iraq when they collapsed. I think Empires go to these places to die.
McCain, the Great Deregulator, is off to save the day! What a guy! Sacrificing his own Presidential campaign just to fix the World!
Wait! Oops, there are Republican hold-outs!
Maybe a bit of choreography so St. McCain can "fix the problem" at the last moment and then make a victorious and dramatic entrance at the first debate? Nah...they'd never do such a thing! Yeah, right!
CMINCA @ 2:
AND THAT NANCY SURROGATE THAT KEEPS TRYING TO SELL THE BS ABOUT REID NEEDING MCCAIN'S VOTE TO SEAL THE DEAL.
McCain is behaving like a drunk driver interfering with EMTs trying to save the passenger in the car he just wrecked.
CMINCA @ 127:
This is how a 401k really works. The sucker sends money each month to a crooked Wall Street accountant. The accountant spends your money to live like a fat cat. Every month they send you a flowery statement that says your a millionaire. You have no way of knowing your money has been stolen until you decided to retire. By the time that you realize you have been had, the crooked Wall Street accountant is either dead of old age or retired in the Bahamas. This is after all what this bail out is all about. The money that is supposed to be in these funds is missing. Wall Street is now trying to make the taxpayers pick up the tab for all this missing money.
www.marketwatch.com/news/story/dodd-says-white-house-meeting/story.aspx?guid={F849F192-D0CD-4456-BC50-751A5259D7F4}&dist=hpmp
Sen. Chris Dodd, the top Democrat on the Senate Banking Committee, said Thursday that bipartisan meeting with President Bush at the White House on the mortgage rescue plan was nothing short of a disaster. In an interview on the CNN cable news network, Dodd described a meeting in which Democrats were blindsided by a new core mortgage proposal from House Republicans, with the tacit backing of Republican presidential candidate John McCain. "I am not going to sign on to something I just saw this afternoon," he said. Dodd said Republicans and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson had to decide what they wanted to support. The whole meeting "looked like a rescue plan for John McCain," Dodd said. He said he was simply going to pretend that the meeting had never happened.
Tucker spouted off his talking-points a bit too early?
I'm making a new yard sign that says:
I HAVE 700 BILLION REASONS FOR NOT VOTING REPUBLICAN!
VietVet8666 @ 7:
Its not that simple... not by a long shot!
Pat Buchanan is a jerk in a lot of respects but he does know his neocons and the factions in his party.
As he pointed out McCain is in a box caught between the Wall Streeter free traders and the working class and libertarian branches.
McPain's Palin gambit was to pull in the base working class and libertarians and he got his bounce and some renewed enthusiasm in the campaign.
Now, however... if the bailout goes through... he loses the base because they hate the deal, but keeps the Wall Street crowd.
If it doesn't go through and the market tanks... he loses the Wall Street crowd and the big donors but keeps keeps his base.
We heard both Democrats and Republican members of the Finance Committees talk about how close they were to a deal... enter Maverick and it all goes to hell in a couple of hours.
My guess is that we are going to hear a New Rebug proposal that splits Solomon's baby and polarizes the whole process in an effort to appease both groups.
A local newscast is actually giving McCain credit for the deal, following Tucker's line. Sickening.
The PANTS ON FIRE tour.
The dude from Pennsylvania (Korjaldfjasdljs (sp./snark?)) was on Squawk Box very early this morning, saying a basic agreement had been reached. He even went so far as to say (quote is from memory), "the cavalry has arrived, and we're home".
This, along with Frank's "no deadlock" framing, was interesting politics.
John McCain, flying to Washington to play the cavalry, was pre-empted.
And now he can avoid the debate and look a pussy, or join the debate and look like an impulsive spaz.
As an added bonus, Bush, who was trying to play the King Solomon breaking the deadlock, also looks irrelevant.
(thought experiment)
Bush: Cut the baby in half.
Nearby Marine: Sir, yes sir! (cuts the baby in half)
Both moms: WTF!!!!
Bush: I was just trying to scare 'em, you stupid asshole!
Carry on, then.
upchuck @ 141:
Well said upchuck, ...more to the point, and funnier than my response. exept its not funny...lots of money lost...
I shouldnt make fun of people anymore who want this bailout to save their investment portfolio's...
...unless they think its gonna save the economy (for more than a couple of months)
Somehow, it seems that America has a macabre addiction to the next big fuck-up.
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