Meet The Press: Brokaw's "Fairness" Facts Pulled Out Of Thin Air To Make McCain Look Better
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We've shown before that since his naming as Tim Russert's interim replacement how completely one-sided Tom Brokaw has been in terms of Republican framing. But this truly takes the cake. After letting McCain spokesman (and Official WATB) Steve Schmidt let loose with a bunch of lies (more on that later) against Obama that campaign manager David Axelrod easily shows for the crap it is, Tom Brokaw in the interest of fairness cites an NBC/WSJ poll that says that more Americans think McCain is "best equipped" to be Commander in Chief.
AXELROD: What has happened is, as Sen. Obama predicted from the beginning, that we got distracted in Iraq and now Osama bin Laden, who is the person who attacked the United States, killed 3,000 American citizens is now resurgent. He is stronger and that is the result of the misbegotten decisions of John McCain and he stubbornly wants to continue, even as the Iraqis won't take responsibility, sitting on $79 billion of their own surplus, while we spend $10 billion a month. It doesn't make sense. We can't take more of the same, Steve.
BROKAW: In fairness to everybody here, I'm just going to end on one note and that is that we continue to poll on who is best equipped to be Commander in Chief, John McCain continues to lead in that category, despite the criticism from Barack Obama by a factor of 53 to 42 percent in our latest NBC/WSJ poll.
See, here's the problem, Tom. I have the latest NBC/WSJ poll (.pdf) taken September 19-22. Guess what? THOSE NUMBERS AREN'T IN THERE. Pulled out of thin air, or an orifice of your choice. In fact, in the MSNBC.com political coverage of this poll, the headline read: Obama Up 2 in NBC/WSJ Poll. So where exactly are these numbers, Tom? If you go to Gallup, the lead is even stronger (50 to 42%), which is pretty close to the numbers you attributed to McCain.
So Tom Brokaw -- in the interest of fairness to whom exactly, I'm unclear, since he is deliberately MISinforming the public -- tries to mitigate Axelrod's deft defense of Obama's judgment by lying and saying that most people believe McCain is still better equipped to be Commander in Chief. You can leave a comment at the Meet The Press Comment Form on Brokaw's campaigning on behalf of McCain.
And by the way, Schmidt's assertion that McCain called for Rumsfeld's resignation? Big fat, stinking lie. From the Obama campaign:
2008: McCain spokesman admits he never called for the resignation of Rumsfeld. "A McCain spokesman acknowledged this week that that was not correct. 'He did not call for his resignation,' said the campaign's Brian Rogers." [Washington Post, 2/16/08]
2006: McCain Refused to Join Calls For Rumsfeld's Resignation, Said He Would Work With Rumsfeld. "But the president has the right and earned the right as the president of the United States to appoint his team--and he has confidence in Secretary Rumsfeld. I will continue to work with Secretary Rumsfeld as much as I can as long as he is secretary of Defense. We have to, because we need to win this war." [East Valley Tribune, 4/15/2006]
2004: McCain Refused To Call For Secretary Rumsfeld's Resignation. McCain would not call for Donald Rumsfeld's resignation, saying that the President "can have the team that he wants around him." McCain said that he respected Bush's decision to keep Rumsfeld around. McCain said, "I respect the president. The president of the United States was re-elected by a majority of the American people, and I respect his right. And I will work with the president obviously and with the secretary of defense." [MSNBC.com, 12/15/04; CNN.com, 12/5/04]
2001: McCain Echoed Rumsfeld on Case for War. During a November 2001 episode of ABC's Nightline Bush's Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, former CIA Director James Woolsey and Senator John McCain all made the case for invading Iraq, using the same misleading rhetoric. Rumsfeld said, "there is no question but that there has been a good deal of interaction between the terrorists in the Philippines and the al-Qaeda and people in Iraq." Woolsey agreed, saying "there's good evidence that [Iraq] has been involved in terrorist acts against the United States since--and quite possibly--September 11th and even possibly the anthrax." Given a chance to oppose Rumsfeld's strategy at the start, McCain echoed the Administration line: "There has been significant involvement on the part of the Iraqis and Saddam Hussein in the acts of terror that have been committed in the past." [Nightline, 11/28/01]
Lying liars and the media people who enable them.
Full transcript:
BROKAW: I'm going to end on two notes here, if I can, very quickly. We have a crowded agenda this morning. Let's go back to this business of winning in Iraq if we can. In fact, a number of people in the Republican side have said we're winning, but in an interview with the BBC, Gen. David Petraeus said he did not know that he would ever use the word "victory" about Iraq.
This is not the sort of struggle where you take a hill, plant the flag and go home to a victory parade, it's not war with a simple slogan.
So isn't it misleading in many ways for Sen. McCain to say we are winning, we'll come home when we have declared victory?
SCHMIDT: Well, absolutely not. Here's what victory means in Iraq: it means an Iraqi government that is able to protect its borders and it means an Iraqi government that is able to protect its people that moves forward on its path towards democracy. This country was losing this war. Sen. McCain stood up to the Bush administration, called for the firing of Don Rumsfeld with his political career to advocate a strategy almost by himself that has led us to the edge of victory there. Sen. Obama opposed that strategy. In that debate, you heard not one time from Sen. Obama the words (sic) victory. We must win this war. This country doesn't have a choice. Sen. Obama's judgment on issues of security to this country, whether it is in Iraq or calling Iran a tiny threat or saying that...
AXELROD: Tom...
SCHMIDT: ...he would sit down unconditionally with the Iranian President, without preconditions make the world more dangerous. It is a fundamental consideration for the American people.
AXELROD: It is...it is...it is ludicrous to assert after four years of mistake after mistake after mistake, when he didn't challenge Mr. Rumsfeld, when he didn't challenge the Bush policy, when he cheerleaded for it to then say that he was a critic of ...[crosstalk]...just a, just a, just a second, just a second, Steve...
SCHMIDT: He did challenge Secretary Rumsfeld...
AXELROD: ...I let you speak, let me finish.
SCHMIDT: Not true...
AXELROD: What has happened is, as Sen. Obama predicted from the beginning, that we got distracted in Iraq and now Osama bin Laden, who is the person who attacked the United States, killed 3,000 American citizens is now resurgent. He is stronger and that is the result of the misbegotten decisions of John McCain and he stubbornly wants to continue, even as the Iraqis won't take responsibility, sitting on $79 billion of their own surplus, while we spend $10 billion a month. It doesn't make sense. We can't take more of the same, Steve.
BROKAW: In fairness to everybody here, I'm just going to end on one note and that is that we continue to poll on who is best equipped to be Commander in Chief, John McCain continues to lead in that category, despite the criticism from Barack Obama by a factor of 53 to 42 percent in our latest NBC/WSJ poll.
It's getting very tiresome to see Brokaw every week force some Democrat to admit that the surge worked. He never misses an opportunity. What a hack.
In fairness to everybody here in the US , I'm just going to state something that everyone already probably knows : Tom Brokaw is a douchebag.................
BROKAW IS A LYING ASSED SHILL.
phucque Brokass!
tom brokaw is an orifice.
Where is the fucking proof that the surge worked? It worked because it was to accomplish what? Did it accomplish it? When? At what cost did it work?
this douche bag panned gore and tolds us boosh looked more presidential than gore and that boosh won the debate - when anyone with ears knew boosh was a lying smirking piece of shit.
bitch-assed brokaw basically said boos was the candidate that you'd "want to have a beer with".
After the show Brokaw polished Steve Schmidt's bald head.
chicano2nd @ 5:
HERE'S THE PROOF!
Proof once and for all just how right McKeatingFiveLyingAssedPustule has always been.
Obama needs to use the words "Senator McCain does not understand" or "Once again Senator McCain does not understand." In the economy debate Obama will be able to show how much McMelanoma does not understand the economy and "Middle America" independents have to be told that McSenile does not understand.
Brokaw said "we continue to poll on who is best equipped to be Commander in Chief"
He wasn't talking about general polls asking who people would vote for. He was talking about a specific category that McCain lead Obama on.
C&L,you knownthe real truth.You just wont allow it.That makes you the ultimate in DOUCHBAGS.
[Hahah-Sitemonitor]
Oh by the way, I am horribly disappointed in Tom Brokow as the replacement for Russert. He has really let me down because i always thought of him a better than this. I trusted him. NOT ANYMORE!! Not since he started doing Meet The Press and his right wing slant is so obvious.
billb @ 11:
Care to elaborate on that, genius?
Brokaw is a member of the CFR like Rather like Charlie Rose, like McSame, like Cheney, like Rice, Rumsfeld, Bush, Daddy Bush, and probably Obama however this hasnt been verified. However, noticing how quickly Obamarama and McSame jumped on the opportunity to steal 700 more billion from the US taxpayer for the banks/fed I would have to say this election is much like the last with Kerry (CFR) running agains the idiot prince(CFR). Anyone who looks for change to come from this pit of vipers hasnt read their history. Nothing short of a work strike and tax strike will stop this syndicate of gangsters... WAKE UP!
I'm not a big fan of GE/MIC owned businesses but it's time for Brokaw to retire and NBC to install some younger, fairer blood on "Meet the press".
bmw 528 @ 13:
Probably be better if the chucklehead didn't .....................
Remember he will be 'moderating' a debate so a little pressure wouldn't hurt
MCMetal @ 16:
Good point---Never Mind!
John @ 10:
As opposed to all the other specific categories in which Obama leads McCain, I'm guessin'.
I no longer watch Meet the Press. Brokaw's bias has forever destroyed any credibility he may once have had. Better to watch Face the Nation or This Week or BBC America or Sunrise Earth on the Discovery Channel or any one of the bazillion variations of Home Shopping Network which Brokaw's MTP has become.
And I actually used to think that Tom Broken had some integrity. Ugh.
snackmaster @ 15:
Brokaw is too well off financially to care about things like journalistic integrity and honesty. His predecessors like Walter Cronkite, Chet Huntley, and David Brinkley thought differently. Too bad Brokaw is such a weakling. He is symptomatic of the serious decline of his profession.
Tom is just like McGrampa. Old and worthless. Depends, anyone?
Best not to watch Meet the Press, but do watch SpongeBob Square Pants instead.
"Some people say" Brokaw is "fair and balanced."
The surge worked? Oh goody. It must be so nice for all the surge troops to be at home with their families instead of coming home in bags. Those endless rotations were getting a little hard to take for them I hear.
McCain did a poor job of doing something he signed up for. That doesn't make him a hero. I prefer a commander in chief that has never been captured by the enemy.
the best short video explaination of the mcSurge. it's reveals the real sound bites..that explain the politics
and the surge
http://www.veracifier.com/episode/TPM_20080723
Taarak @ 24:
Now we know he is fairly unbalanced.
bmw 528 @ 18:
I coulda used the laugh.
Taarak @ 24:
Yeah , but they don't say anything close to that when they sober up ..........
Tom Brokeoff is a legend in his mind,just like his P.O.S. McCain "hero". Its obvious there's a mancrush going on here, and its not only offensive,its insulting to the viewers-who just happen to be voters,also. And for a little reality check,Tommy Boy,the air waves are supposed to belong to the PUBLIC,Tom-NOT just the RePUBLICans!
Tom Brokaw is just another old white liar.
Doesn't the term "Commander in Chief" mean head of your army? That's what you Americans use the term for, right?
So what's the big deal about Brokaw stating that the poll numbers favour McCain as the better candidate to deal with your national security?
I've seen such polls - I don't agree with them - but what in the world is such a big deal about Brokaw making the statement that he did?? It was true, as far as I can tell.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 29:
It's not nice to laugh at the retarded .....................
winston @ 14:
true.
it's sad to say that even at the risk of winning (and probably by a landslide), neither campaign will stand up to this 700 billion dollar (and counting) giveaway. the funny thing is, they could stand up to it fiercely, it could still pass and they'd still reap the benefit of having stood up to it.
but in my mind this really is only the first of two steps they should be taking. because of course standing up to this rediculous bailout is one thing, but doing something better with 700 billion is another. and here again, neither campaign is talking about using that money (or some similar slab of money) for green industry incentives, universal health care etc.... because they're backing the bill and so a discussion of better uses never even enters the debate.
Attacks In Baghdad Kill At Least 32
the results of the surge speak for themselves.
I was expecting the Corporate Media to be fair.
What happened?
he can't help it.........it's the way they did things for years. i bet he doesn't like blogs either.
he is a CRONY.
BROKAW: In fairness to everybody here, I’m just going to end on one note and that is that we continue to poll on who is best equipped to be Commander in Chief, John McCain continues to lead in that category, despite the criticism from Barack Obama by a factor of 53 to 42 percent in our latest NBC/WSJ poll.
In fairness to everyone? In fairness to everyone, people think McCain is the better Commander in Chief?
Ok, then . . . . . . .
In fairness to Tom Broken, I'm just going to post that C&L and other blogs think Meet the Press sucks with him at the helm.
One thing to remember is, back in 2002-2003, Brokaw was part of the media that marketed getting into the war in the 1st place.
Brokejaw is unfair and unbalanced.
Somebody should turn up the heat on that mug.
This is why I dread Brokaw moderating a debate between Obama and McStupid. Russert's son, Luke, would have been a far better replacement than Brokaw.
All of MSM is in the bag for the Repugs. These people make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. With the Repugs, they don't have to pay their fair share of taxes. It's that simple.
xoites defends Constitution @ 37:
BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How r u, x?
I think this is OT, tho it could be catagorized as how our media fail us. In Dayton OH, someone sprayed a "chemical irritant" into the nursery section of a Mosque.
http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2008/09/27/...
P.D. @ 43:
the owners of the media are few and powerful. THAT's the reason.
Look, Brokaw isn't a journalist, he's a news reader. And news readers are opportunists.
He's obviously jockeying for a slot on Fox News. What better way to do that than show Rupert that you'll make up BS to protect the Republicans?
For every poll that show people think McCain is "better equipped to be Commander in Chief" there are five or six that say people think Obama would "make a better president." THAT'S WHY POLLS SHOULDN'T BE REPORTED BY NEWS ORGANIZATIONS AS IF THEY'RE FACT. THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY DESIGNED AND WRITTEN TO GET THE RESPONSE THE POLLSTERS WANT IN ORDER TO BOLSTER THEIR ARGUMENT.
Somebody really ought to get the guy fired, quickly.
How does one get the sponsor list of Meet the Press. I have few choice words about my buying anything from them. I want Brokaw off that stupid show. He defames what it was.
Dave
Viet Vet
MCMetal @ 34:
:<[)
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 44:
I am fine, thank you. :)
How are you?
i only checked in a few times, during commercial breaks of my sundaymorning routine...
it was maddening. and totally disappointing.
tom brokaw is NO moderator.
Tom Brokaw is a master of the corporate elite. He serves them. Not the American people. So fuck him. Too bad though he is hosting the next debate. He'll probably do to Barack what Stephy and Gibson did to him earlier in the primaries.
xoites defends Constitution @ 37:
Recent brain trauma x?
Peter G @ 54:
Funny thing...
At least i thought so at the time...
:)
Where've you been x? You've been missed.
bmw 528 @ 21:
That depends on your definition of "Fairer". To the corporate media fair means you have to have the opposite view on all subjects no matter that most of the time one side is lying through their teeth and will quote statistics and facts pulled completely through their collective asses. You have someone on that says the world is a ball that orbits around the sun you must have someone on that will say that no the world is a flat square and the universe revolves around the earth. The truth and facts are all a matter of opinion and to be fair you must include all opinions.
Dave @ 49:
It's probably GE or Boeing or something like that. I mean who's going to buy a Boeing. It's for corporate control and war support.
I believe that during the Democratic convention, Brokaw stated that Clinton had to be careful criticizing McCain because the latter had been a POW.
That was a million times worse than what he said this morning.
Canuknotusa @ 33:
The problem here is that he made that "poll" story up. As referenced above, there is no such poll:
www.msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/080924_NBC-WSJ_released.pdf
There is no excuse for not checking your facts to make sure they are right. Brokaw apparently is arrogant enough to believe that he is above such trivialities and has a license to make up things that suit him.
I am SO old that I remember when the ship of state called "America" was steered by a "President", instead of a "Commander In Chief". How about we cut the sophistry and bullshit and just use the name "Fuehrer"...
Keep it close, then toss a few hundred thousand votes.
Brokaw's just doing what he's told, so as to maintain the lifestyle to which he has become accustomed.
Ignoring contrary evidence, Schieffer asserted McCain "suspended his campaign" because of Wall Street crisis
On CBS' Face the Nation, Bob Schieffer asserted that Sen. John McCain "suspended his campaign" to deal with the Wall Street crisis, ignoring evidence that after McCain announced he was going to suspend his campaign, his ads continued to run; his advisers repeatedly attacked Sen. Barack Obama on cable news networks; and he gave interviews with the three broadcast networks the following day. Read more
NBC is owned by GE-what should that tell you about that militaristic mindset? GE is heavily involved in the miltary industrial complex-and subprime loans overseas,too.Don't forget that Tom penned those books about WWII-he's playing to a lot of older Repubes who buy his books and probably believe that they can trust Brokaw and McCain-SAD!
What seems out of sync here to me is you go from a statement of judgment (or lack thereof) shown by the two men and Brokaw throws in (correct or not) something about the perception of the polled public.
It’s apples and oranges. One is about leadership and judgment, the other is about how well the advertising is working.
The advice to Brokaw is less is more.
xoites defends Constitution @ 51:
stressed as hell and relieving it here.
Dave @ 49:
Damned good idea.
Jo
wife of Viet Vet
The Republicans have advocated that letting the "free" market run the media means it will regulate itself just like Wallstreet has regulated itself. That "greed" wouldn't cause any problems. The "greed" of media freaks such as Tom Brokaw show just what he will do for his money masters.
Renell @ 64:
Under the radar: trillion dollar pentagon budget approved.
Renell @ 64:
Correctomundo... AND Chase Manhattan/Bank of America owns GE and much much more.
Phylter @ 61:
If you call the guy (or gal) the President it conveys the idea that you have to be smart to be one, however if you call the President the Commander in Chief instead you declare that he or she needs to be a megalomaniac and not a wimpy intellectual.
Its all a matter of owning the language.
The surge? will shit if you pay the bad guys $100 a day not to fight what did bush think they were going to do. More American money down the drain. hey brokaw, why don't you start telling the American people the "TRUTH". I thought you were a good guy, now all I think of you as just a "DICK". Iraq will not even sign to keep Americans in Iraq, as of the first of the year, the American military will be breaking the LAW. Iraq want the American Military "OUT". Now if "WE" get out, what will bushes buds do. they will not be making there billions of dollars. That is what is keeping this ENDLESS war going.............
Brokaw is such a poser, he talks about Montana in such quaint terms, and how wonderfull a people we all are. They are just too polite down by Bozeman to tell Brokaw to his face that he is a clown. Of course there are the usual celebrity suck ups that are too busy sticking their noses up his crack that they dont even realize that Brokaw is a complete fraud
http://massmediacontrol.blogspot.com/2008/10/...
Jo @ 67:
Jesus, I meant to say wife of another Viet Vet, not this Viet Vet, sorry.
and the scrubbing continues!
Norah O'Donnell aired cropped "John is right" clips, but in nearly all instances, Obama was criticizing McCain
On MSNBC, Norah O'Donnell aired a montage of what she described as "the multiple times that Barack Obama said 'John [McCain] is right' " during the first presidential debate. Following the montage, O'Donnell commented, "I thought this was a debate." In fact, in nearly all instances, Obama was actually criticizing McCain after first noting a point of agreement on the topic Obama was discussing.
NY Times uncritically reported McCain ad and "talking point" that Obama "said [during debate] he agreed with his rival's positions"
John @ 10:
- exactly, John. You obviously didn't look at the poll. Or you would know that this questionn was not asked. See, he completely fabricated that statistic. Get it now?
You know it's interesting, I was reading much the same in the Dallas Morning Nudes this morning in the section called Points. No not under sarah palin's blouse when she's in a room with the thermostat down low. We Texans don't want to deal with polysyllabic words like Letters To the Editor.
Anywho, they were saying more people though mcgramps looked stronger on foreign policy than Obama during the debates, but they cited no polls. I thought they had to be kidding, all I saw was condescention, "What my opponent fails to understand..." At one point Obama was talking about lower level discussions without conditions, and that confirmed what I thought he meant about no conditions talk, but may be more than the average viewer might understand of diplomatic levels of talk, they're not all summits. mcgramps kept saying that was with Obama meeting with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad without pre-conditions, although it had already been successfully refuted. Then mcgramps progressed to mangle Ahmadeinejad's name so bad, that it looked like he tried to salvage himself by making it look like he was making fun of the name. Whether it was an old-age moment or bad taste sarcasm, in either case it was not appropriated for someone seeking to be a world leader.
A whole lot of damage control going on...
What does "Your comment is awaiting moderation." suppose to mean?
This is so amusing. All the press is biased to the left. Let one of them do anything to the right and you all have a hizzy!
kerplunk @ 77:
It could mean you put too many links into a comment, as one for instance.
kerplunk @ 77:
you tripped the mine. please be still and await detonation.
Karyn @ 78:
what's this? a drive by?
All of you should be sending these comments to NBC comment page. They read what people have to say. You will make a difference no matter how little it may be. It is so easy as well. It's not like in the old days where you had to send a letter and hope somebody read it. The NBC comment page is just for this type of reaction!
Karyn @ 78:
How about some examples.
I can't believe this, but I miss Timmy!
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 81:
Actually, I think a walk by, waiting for her John. Whatta way to earn a living.
What disgrace to the memory of Tim Russert who went out his way to be non-partisan. Brokaw is simply a shill for the Rethuglicans and if NBC wants to avoid a lawsuit for not granting equal time for any Brokaw rightwing commercials on behalf of the Neocons, they better send him back to retirement yesterday.
Senator Obama better be prepared because I believe this fool is the moderator for one of the upcoming debates.... What he needs to do is watch a tape of Kerry against Liebermann and Joe Biden against Brokaw.... They did not allow Tom Brokaw to get away with anything....You have to push back with this fool plain and simple.
This only proves that Tom Brokaw can be bought. After all, he got out of the anchor's seat and ended up a media whore.
Sorry for the typos, I'm drunk again...
Egad...I miss weed.
ysbaddaden @ 89:
I missed both!
Karyn @ 78:
Put your crack pipe down for a moment. Your right wing corporate media dupes have been working overtime to distort, deny, and defame Obama and help out your blundering fool of a candidate who can't find his ass with both hands:
www.mediamatters.org
Hope you have a good laugh on Nov 4th when your party crumbles to dust despite the help of your media hacks.
The Very Bitter Ceci Hussein @ 88:
he's been a whore for years.
ysbaddaden @ 89:
Much less deleterious to your health and general well-being (as long as you don't get busted) than booze...
As for Brokaw, as you can infer from his hagiography of the "greatest generation," he's a fucking war-hag. There's fag-hags, and flag-hags, and fame-hags. Brokaw never tested himself in the crucible of his generation, and he almost erotically "LOVES" McCartman's war wounds...
Fuck him...
Jake @ 59:
I think the worst thing he ever said on live news was "bukake"
John the Elder @ 86:
timmeh was no fucking saint. he was quite fucked up himself. more like a brunette chris matthews.
sarah palin's three-day
campaignvacationavoidance of the press in Philadelphia, "the biggest city in the battleground state of Pennsylvania," included a visit to a downtown bar on Friday night before the presidential debate between McCain and Democrat Barack Obama, a cheesesteak shop on Saturday and Di Bruno Bros. gourmet food shop where she reportedly had a skinny white chocolate mocha.OMG! noooooooooooo!
but this is the best part:
http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/09/28/palin-responds-to-federal-bai...
I can barely watch tee-vee. I can't justify all the time spent in front of a box that has a lot of this country hypnotized. This article certainly proved tee-vee is a waste with all the blood-boiling lies and then of course, the 90210-type shows. That stuff blasts your brain into oblivion.
woody, tokin librul @ 93:
I think brokaw felt a little something tickling his prostate.
Jo @ 85:
I was thinking maybe O'Reilly in drag.
karen marie @ 96:
FSM, I love Philadelphia!
BTW, Tom Brokejaw was, is, and will always be a corporate hack and a tool. Dude never had anything going for him. His MTP guest shots only prove it.
TheAdviceWeAllNedd @ 87:
Oh shit, if he's a moderator, Obama or Biden are fucked. Brokaw will probably insist on giving Palin her own teleprompter because that or a bluetooth ear piece will be her own saving grace.
Saying the SURGE WORKED, Mr. Brokaw and Mr. McCain... is like saying FOUR WHEEL DRIVE IS WORKING...
as all four wheels are spinning in MUD and you're stuck up to your axels.
All the SURGE DID was push all the bad guys INDOORS. We're STILL STUCK THERE.
bmw 528 @ 91:
I totally agree with you....The have been trying to destroy Senator Obama for sometime.... Making controversy when there isn't any while looking the other way when John McCain has made slip up after slip... But you know what changed, the Blogs....We got tired of them not doing their job so we have aggressively begun doing their job for them. And because they don't want to be shown up by other media groups they at times have shown some balls.
Bitter Bud Hussein @ 100:
NOTE: PLEASE CORRECT THE TITLE. BROKAW IS NOT ENTITLED TO HIS OWN FACTS! BROKAW pulled no facts out of thin air. BROKAW LIED!
Brokaw let slip during the Dem's Convention in Denver more than once if you were listening to his choice of words what did indeed seem like a tilt on his part for the GOP.
Have not ever made a habit of watching MTP for many years being the format tends to carry water for American Empire standard fare talking points,pov's and as remarked on regarding "the surge" for instance the facts and truth of things get short shrift if they do not frame in positive ways American Imperial blabble and propaganda.
Undoubtedly Tommy Brokaw is well paid by GE/NBC and a long time ago threw his lot in with the big money crowd.
Does any of the above commentary come as a surprise?
Not really.
Tom Brokaw is a well paid American media "face and voice" and he does American Empire talk points and propaganda well and in reliable fashion. Wolf Blitzer performs this role for CNN.
As with so much of American political media the pro-American Empire tilt is built in as a feature. The big media outlets do carry Imperial message and propaganda no less than "official" Chinese or Russian counterparts would or do.
Facts and truths are not allowed to get in the way of "approved" framing and storytell.
Any competent appraisal of "the surge" when put up against the "approved" version the Bush/Cheney regime or John McCain and his pal Joe Lieberman are throwing around will likely enough get this treatment from headliner "talent" like Tommy Brokaw.
Karyn @ 78:
Actually, the press has a bias towards REALITY. It just so happens that most liberals lean strongly in that direction as well.
It's the republicans that are gay hating, closet homosexual, religion spouting, constantly lying, greeding, hateful, bigoted, ignorant, delusional madmen and women.
Since SOME of the press actually remembers that it's the job of the reporters and newsmen(and women) to tell the truth, what they tend to report coincides with Liberal views.
See?
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 95:
Lew Lapham's valediction to the potato-head was a thing of beauty, in Harper's, a couple of months ago. Lapham characterized Russert as having the demeanor toward power of a head-waiter in a snazzy bistro...If you can open it, I cannot recommend it highly enough...
Bitter Bud Hussein @ 100:
Try again. Sorry. To much to drink.
The truth be known, I enjoy watching or listening to FOX News Sunday. It is much more interesting to watch those shitheads not even try to hide their bias. And watching Kerry get off this morning was wonderful. Right in their faces. Who needs MTP? It is always good to know what your enemy is up to as well.
(Maybe I should not have admitted this?)
I was appalled a few weeks ago when Brokaw interviewed Joe Biden on Meet the Press. Brokaw was extremely disrespectful and even got into trash talking Senator Biden's son. I thought families are off limits in this election?
Anyway, it has become very clear that Brokaw is no longer a newsman, but instead, has become a Republican operative.
Jo @ 85:
GOOD ONE! :<[)
StirFry @ 101:
Biden Debate will be fair, Gwen Ifel is the moderator, she was trained under Tim Russert, so we are safe there but Tom Brokaw is someone that Senator Obama needs to push back on....If he watches the tapes of Biden and Kerry being interviewed by Brokaw he will know it can be done. Bush him back on his lies....
woody, tokin librul @ 108:
excellent:
Ok, below is the comment I sent to Meet the Press:
and there's a story up at msnbc about internet searches relating to palin, mccain and obama.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26903680/
TheAdviceWeAllNedd @ 112:
there is no safety.
SHITLIST UPDATE!!!
Mark Halperin
Ron Fournier
Liz Sidoti
Mike Allen
George Stephanopoulos
Charlie Gibson
Cokie Roberts
Joe Scarborough
Chris Matthews
Wold Blitzer
John King
Dana Bash
Rick Sanchez
Bob Shieffer
Jim Lehrer
Roger Simon
Tom Brokaw
This prick shouldn't be moderating Meet the Press, nevermind the 2nd presidential debate.
OBAMA, watch your arse. The weasal bastard is looking to tighten the race. General Electric have spoken... likewise CNN/ExxonMobil.
One must give equal time to both lies and the truth. That's what 'fair' means, isn't it? If the truth makes the Republican candidate look bad, then you're going to need some flattering lies to balance the program out. Who could complain about that? Why it's the very highest standard of journalism as practiced in the USA.
Tom has worked against Democrats for a long time -- at least since the Bill Clinton days. If he was interested in fairness he would have noted that McCain lied about the exchange regarding Henry Kissinger. If anyone was watching Katie Couric she noted that she called Kissinger to ask him if he agreed with Obama's statement and he said "yes." Go Katie!! Forget Tom and a biased NBC.
BAC
Despite Tom Brokaw, future President Obama will resonate with Americans. Through this presidential campaign, Mr. Brokaw has demonstrated his partisan leanings. The questions and Mr. Brokaw's expected pro McCain set ups, are evident in his strained reporting in favor of McCain. His masquerading as impartial does not go unnoticed.
There is nothing to fear from the Hannitisation of his moderating; Americans are not easily fooled (by that I mean real Americans, not the GOP puritan sexy Palin therapy needing supporters, nor the Commandment be damn lie loving McCain backers).
American's were not fooled by the throw America under the Untruth Express campaign tactic last week; they are not fooled by the clueless new age (dinosaur hunting) bible thumping Palin; and they were not fooled by this moderators desperate defense of McCain pitiful debate realities.
Despite Tom Brokaw, Americans have nothing to fear.
The corporate powers that be are trying to put in tax friendly John Sinclair McCain so they can continue their shit. Brokaw is playing his role in that agenda. We the People must do different.
www.voteforchange.com
Remember the good 'ole days when ABC and NBC had the likes of Peter Jennings and Tim Russert anchoring the evening news and moderating the sunday talk shows?
Well, they never existed.
i suspect brokaw is a closet racist. he's been down on obama from the beginning.
edgar r murrow he is not.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 93:
Yep. He's shown he could "out-whore" Katherine Harris in aiding the GOP. And believe me that's a very high bar.
Other than that, I'm still pretty steamed about Bill's appearance on MTP. He is threatening to throw Obama under the bus with his platitudes about McCain. :(
masha @ 124:
No he isn't. Murrow would be rolling in his grave if Tom was the heir apparent.
anybody has an email for brokaw or meet the press? we have to bombard them with complaints lest they think it is ok to keep being in the tank for mccain especially for the debate to be moderated by brokaw.
Nicole: Masha, I included a link to send feedback to Meet The Press in the original post.
Brokaw is just a semi-cognitive water-carrier for the Repubs. He parrots whatever talking point the Repubs feed him, without fully understanding what he is parroting.
I've said it before about Beltway Bobbleheads, and it particularly applies to Brokaw: a trained parrot would make a better Meet The Press host; he would have more intelligence than Brokaw in understanding the talking points he was spewing, he would be cheaper, and he would have a better attitude. Oh, and parrots are not so dumb such as to saturate their lungs with tar when their job is communication.
It's easy to make a buck. It's a lot tougher to make a difference.
Tom Brokaw~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Guess Tom's takin' the easy way out-and the bucks,too!
In the interest of fairness to the public, could we re-retire tom brokaw?
I hope someone makes a comprehensive documentary about the MSM's utterly transparent antics during the '08 Election. Robert Greenwald should get on it, sharpish.
John @ 10:
I went through the ENTIRE pdf, and there was no category on who was better equipped, or more presidential. There were questions on who would be better at handling assorted issues, and Obama did better than McCain on the economy, and McCain only outpolled Obama on handling Iraq. Even there, there wasn't a wide gap in the numbers as was cited by the factually derelict Brokaw. How many RPMs do you think Russert must be doing?
TheAdviceWeAllNedd @ 104:
It is truly appalling how they have tried so hard to dilute and distort Obama's message and when nothing else works, use their 'what if" projection as another propaganda tool. And they are really arrogant and shameless about it too, as if it was some matter of pride. In reality, they have degraded themselves into little more than slimy carny barkers. If we depended on the current MSM to uncover Watergate, Nixon would have never had to resign.
The Gibson/Stephanopoulos tag-team hit-job on Obama during the primaries was a watershed moment.
Tom must still be breast feeding off of McCain. Tom loves him some McCain
Go back to your retirement Tom you are as out of touch and ill prepared as McCain
John @ 10:
But the latest poll doesn't have that as a category, or a question. What gives?
With Brokaw's obvious right wing bias there is no way he should moderate a debate . . . talk about a set up for McCain, we all know he has to be helped and not capable but it should not be so blatantly exposed!Get a replacement NOW.
tom brokaw is a pig and an ass backwards neocon enabler. He is afraid to lose his pathetic posture position as russert's heir, and so he is playing it safe to take the posture as a shill for this heinous administration by compensating for the errors and total miscalculations and misjudgments of the mcAncient administration.
In short.....he is covering his own ass at the expense of the welfare of this nation. He is just another scum sucking bottom feeder. May he rot in hell next to vannity, bor, limpballs, etc, etc.
Pretty obvious Brokaw has McCain mixed up with some of the people he bio'ed in his Greatest Generation books.
Stop it now Tom....you're embarrassing yourself.
masha @ 127:
thanks!
I record MEET THE PRESS every Sunday for years.
Today's was the worst episode ever.
BTW, why do they have both campaign strategist's on at the same time? They're not politicians or debaters. I don't recall Karl Rove and Donna Brazile or Bob Shrum going head-to-head.
"This prick shouldn’t be moderating Meet the Press, nevermind the 2nd presidential debate.
OBAMA, watch your arse. The weasal bastard is looking to tighten the race. General Electric have spoken… likewise CNN/ExxonMobil."
Yes, Obama ....you're going to have to learn to play dirty to survive. They'll do their very best to sink you, so start preparing with all the help of film you can get. I KNOW YOU CAN BEST THEM!
Brokaw has always been a hack. But somehow, as his haired grayed, he became perceived as some kind of political sage. Just for the record, Brokaw is a half-bright douchebag Villager and will continue to be until the day they bury his useless ass.
The poll was conducted by the Wall Street Journal. Now, there's a reliable source. It's a Murdoch rag for crying out loud.
Captain Bitter Angry Kangaroo @ 12:
My thoughts exactly. I always thought of Brokaw as the less egotistical and most mild mannered of the Big Three anchors when Jennings and Rather were still around. Now I know why he was third. Greatest Generation also panders to O'Reilly's demographic as well. Hang it up, Brokaw!
Axlerod gesticulates entirely too much to be a genuine person. (Lookin a little 'adolphy', too...)
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