This is one of those moments when the unexpected comes out of nowhere. Of all places FOX & Friends announced to Sen. McCain that Sen, Obama had led the way on asking to increase the FDIC program up to 250K and what was HE going to do....And it gets better....

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Q: Barack Obama already has a proposal to  revive negotiations. He wants to increase the amount of money guaranteed by the FDIC of 100 to 250K . What would Sen, John McCain do? Well let's ask him. Sen. McCain, your serve. Barack Obama has made a bold move.

(Silence and blinking from McCain) McCain: Uh, I, I uhhh talked with the President this morning....

He looked like he was not prepared for that. And then he was forced to admit that he did not save the day when he suspended his campaign last Thursday and went to DC to whip the Republicans to vote for the bail out. He was supposed to be the savior.

Q: So Senator are you saying that you went back to get more Republicans on board so then you are in favor of voting yes yesterday. And in essence then going back...

McCain: Oh, Absolutely.

Q: OK, well then going back last week---did not change enough Republicans minds.

McCain: No, it didn't change enough Republican minds. We're going to have to change enough Republican and Democrats minds...

So McCain is not in control of his party. I guess Newt Gingrich really is running things over there.

NBC’s Andrea Mitchell reported this morning that conservatives may have been taking their marching orders from former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, who “was whipping against this up until the last minute” — despite issuing a statement supporting the bill as the vote was taking place...read on

That's very scary for a number of reasons...



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fucking useless P-O-S

Newt said fu*k you McCain, I'm getting ready for 2012.

Both candidates will screw you tomorrow:

"Senate to vote on financial rescue plan Wednesday ".

wow. So what's everyone going to be drinking on election night? I'm leaning towards Yuengling Lager...

John McCain is much better at running his party than Barack Obama. In fact I'm pretty sure Barack Obama has never run anything in his entire life. The only way this county will survive the next four years is if we stick to our conservative values that this country was established on. I am a young college student and even i agree with this. I was raised to see what is right and wrong and I can tell you right now that obama is wrong for this country. More and more college students around the United States are joining the McCain party and if Obama cant reach out to the young people of America how does he expect to win because we all know the elderly and wealthy people of this nation are going to vote McCain.

"so people can keep-stay in their homes," you know, put food on their family, gvsjonomy energy molecules and stuff.

McCain, Bush and Palin
The baby talk party 08!

He was hoping that broad would change his Depends.

I'm sorry, there is not a politician saying anything right now to convince me I need to be saddled with 700 billion dollars of Wall Street debt. With that said, FOX seems to take a tougher tack with McCain in this interview than is customary (even the boneheads on FOX & Friends) and this could be due to the hilarity of McCain/Palin being seriously considered Presidential is even too much for Rupert to swallow

wjacobw11 @ 7:

J I am a young college student and even i agree with this. I was raised to see what is right and wrong and I can tell you right now that obama is wrong for this country.

You have much to learn grasshopper. I'm almost afraid to ask what college you attend.

Oral Roberts Univ.?

Uh, did I mishear it after his stuttering? If not, why didn't you note (or why didn't the Fox and Fiends), that McCain claimed it was HE that recommended (to the President) the FDIC raise from 100K to 250K? It makes it sound like it was his idea. Again.

seriously @ 6:

wow. So what's everyone going to be drinking on election night? I'm leaning towards Yuengling Lager...

Great beer. Not for sale in Illinois. Serious bummer there

should we be surprised that there's so much confusion on both sides of the aisle?

where's the bull moose party when you need it?!

Did McCain say he called the president to raise FDIC from $100,000 to $200,000 too?

odanny @ 11:

wjacobw11 @ 7:

J I am a young college student and even i agree with this. I was raised to see what is right and wrong and I can tell you right now that obama is wrong for this country.

Dear Sir: I may have much to learn but I do know this for a fact. My Grandfather was raised dirt poor in the hills of southeastern oklahoma, he had no sort of "welfare" or anything else to get him out of the position he was born into except hard work and determination. He started a small sheetmetal company in Georgia and by the late 1980's he was pulling in millions of dollars of profit thanks to his hard work and determination. Now under clinton he was taxed in the top 10% of people in the united states which basically means he was punished for making money so that some poor man who was to lazy to get a job could survive. That to me is wrong. Liberals kill the desire to prosper and this in turn leads to the downfall of a nation. I may be young but I know that the only right way to get ahead is to work hard not to live off the taxes of someone who is well off.

Dear wjacobw11,

Be sure to take some Math while you're in college. It will help you learn how to think.

If you watch McCain's eyes, you can see that he is feverishly blinking out the following Morse Code:

dot, dot, dot - dash, dash, dash - dot, dot, dot

(= SOS)

I think we have to keep our eye on the real political action here. This is a major Republican repudiation of George Bush's bailout request. Presidential candidates have no real leverage in this. The Democrats in congress, in the interests of the country-and as Nancy Pelosi perfectly expressed-despite their distaste for the failed ideology that got us here, were willing to get this done.

This is just a cosmic insult to the President and his Treasury Secretary from their own rabid dog conservative Representatives. This is the narrative that the main stream media seems to be missing.

Well, I guess it's not a bad thing that McCain looks so bad and is getting the trouncing that he deserves.

wjacobw11 @ 7:

John McCain is much better at running his party than Barack Obama. In fact I'm pretty sure Barack Obama has never run anything in his entire life. The only way this county will survive the next four years is if we stick to our conservative values that this country was established on. I am a young college student and even i agree with this. I was raised to see what is right and wrong and I can tell you right now that obama is wrong for this country. More and more college students around the United States are joining the McCain party and if Obama cant reach out to the young people of America how does he expect to win because we all know the elderly and wealthy people of this nation are going to vote McCain.

Oooh! Teacher, teacher, can I play "Spot the Troll!"

Like the quote in Animal House says, "Drunk and stupid is no way to go thru life".

You can delude yourself into believing 'young people of American' are following the CryptKeeper or you can look at the facts at a place like 538 that actually post internal data and methodology. Something you'd learn about if you actually went to college and took a course in statistics. BTW, virtually nothing on FAUX or Sludge is a fact. Sure, you can read it but you can't actually back it up with hard data or emperical evidence. See the debacle of the "split in PA" video posted earlier.

Oh, and getting something nice with your McCain points. I hear the tin-foil hats are all the rage this year.

"The dead have risen and they're voting Republican!"

i'm not kidding. if t.r. had won, woody wilson never would've gotten his dumb @$$ blackmailed, and we never would have had this damn 100-year curse.

an assassin tried to shoot t.r. -but the transcript of the speech he was about to deliver saved him. and he still delivered the speech.

america screwed up pretty bad in 1908.

that's also when the cubs curse started...

*1912 on t.r., 1908 on cubs

but they are related

from like :27 to :32, priceless. watching him percolate, just hilarious.

wjacobw11 @ 7:

John McCain is much better at running his party than Barack Obama. In fact I'm pretty sure Barack Obama has never run anything in his entire life. The only way this county will survive the next four years is if we stick to our conservative values that this country was established on. I am a young college student and even i agree with this. I was raised to see what is right and wrong and I can tell you right now that obama is wrong for this country. More and more college students around the United States are joining the McCain party and if Obama cant reach out to the young people of America how does he expect to win because we all know the elderly and wealthy people of this nation are going to vote McCain.

Obvious Troll is obvious.

odanny @ 10:

I'm sorry, there is not a politician saying anything right now to convince me I need to be saddled with 700 billion dollars of Wall Street debt.

agreed. and unfortunately, obama's listening to some slimy advisors.

1st we were told we needed this resolved by friday, then sunday, then monday.

the sky still ain't falling.

i say keep stalling, to prove count paulson's scam for what it is. and give federal investigators more time to nail the crooks & liars.

remember, if something smells like a big, steaming pile of horse$#!+, that's invariably what it is.

wjacobw11 @ 17:

odanny @ 11:

wjacobw11 @ 7:

J I am a young college student and even i agree with this. I was raised to see what is right and wrong and I can tell you right now that obama is wrong for this country.

Dear Sir: I may have much to learn but I do know this for a fact. My Grandfather was raised dirt poor in the hills of southeastern oklahoma, he had no sort of "welfare" or anything else to get him out of the position he was born into except hard work and determination. He started a small sheetmetal company in Georgia and by the late 1980's he was pulling in millions of dollars of profit thanks to his hard work and determination. Now under clinton he was taxed in the top 10% of people in the united states which basically means he was punished for making money so that some poor man who was to lazy to get a job could survive. That to me is wrong. Liberals kill the desire to prosper and this in turn leads to the downfall of a nation. I may be young but I know that the only right way to get ahead is to work hard not to live off the taxes of someone who is well off.

"He started a small sheetmetal company in Georgia and by the late 1980's he was pulling in millions of dollars of profit thanks to his hard work and determination."

I can see his hard work and determination getting the company started, but I bet it was his employees who were responsible for generating the profit.

how many times are you going to fall for the same black magic trick?

you know, the one where mesmero swings the stopwatch, then punches you square in the face?

*magick

Outwestern @ 27:

wjacobw11 @ 17:

odanny @ 11:

wjacobw11 @ 7:

Dear Sir: I may have much to learn but I do know this for a fact. My Grandfather was raised dirt poor in the hills of southeastern oklahoma, he had no sort of "welfare" or anything else to get him out of the position he was born into except hard work and determination. He started a small sheetmetal company in Georgia and by the late 1980's he was pulling in millions of dollars of profit thanks to his hard work and determination. Now under clinton he was taxed in the top 10% of people in the united states which basically means he was punished for making money so that some poor man who was to lazy to get a job could survive. That to me is wrong. Liberals kill the desire to prosper and this in turn leads to the downfall of a nation. I may be young but I know that the only right way to get ahead is to work hard not to live off the taxes of someone who is well off.

"He started a small sheetmetal company in Georgia and by the late 1980's he was pulling in millions of dollars of profit thanks to his hard work and determination."

I can see his hard work and determination getting the company started, but I bet it was his employees who were responsible for generating the profit.

Yes I am sure it was his employees helping draw in the profit but without his company none of these employees would have been employed so he not only drew in profit for himself he helped his employees put food on the table for their familys. This is how I know that conservative values work. Hard work will propel anyone to a brighter future. Looking for welfare handouts will not.

wjacobw11 @ 7:

John McCain is much better at running his party than Barack Obama.

Why would Obama run McCain's party?

In fact I'm pretty sure Barack Obama has never run anything in his entire life.

Ooh, is that a little bit of doubt there? Why not complete certainty? If I didn't know better I might suspect nescience on your part.

The only way this county will survive the next four years is if we stick to our conservative values that this country was established on.

And what conservative values would those be, mister historian?

I am a young college student and even i agree with this.

er... "even i agree with this"? Are you implying that young college students have poor judgment or something?

I was raised to see what is right and wrong

I'm sure you were; conveniently bypassing all that thinking stuff, it would seem.

...and I can tell you right now that obama is wrong for this country.

You can? Wow, what a multi-talented individual you are. You can say stuff! I guess your super right/wrong-discerning powers helped you formulate this statement, seeing as no reasons have been provided as to why this would be the case.

More and more college students around the United States are joining the McCain party and if Obama cant reach out to the young people of America how does he expect to win because we all know the elderly and wealthy people of this nation are going to vote McCain.

Oops, you forgot to provide anything to back that assertion up. Best see to that right away.

Your dorm's a/c must have a serious freon leak.

and, one final comment for this thread:

don't be so naive as to believe there isn't plenty of blame to go around both sides of the aisle.

this is exactly like marvel comics "civil war", where there are good guys and bad guys on both sides, and you have to figure out who is who.

my votes for scum on our side:

BARNEY FRANK
CHRIS DODD
HARRY REID
NANCY PELOSI
DIANNE FEINSTEIN
STENY HOYER

more names forthcoming...

wjacobw11 @ 7:

John McCain is much better at running his party than Barack Obama. In fact I'm pretty sure Barack Obama has never run anything in his entire life. The only way this county will survive the next four years is if we stick to our conservative values that this country was established on. I am a young college student and even i agree with this. I was raised to see what is right and wrong and I can tell you right now that obama is wrong for this country. More and more college students around the United States are joining the McCain party and if Obama cant reach out to the young people of America how does he expect to win because we all know the elderly and wealthy people of this nation are going to vote McCain.

Callahan's Principle — You can't argue with stupid.

wjacobw11 @ 17:

odanny @ 11:

wjacobw11 @ 7:

J I am a young college student and even i agree with this. I was raised to see what is right and wrong and I can tell you right now that obama is wrong for this country.

Dear Sir: I may have much to learn but I do know this for a fact. My Grandfather was raised dirt poor in the hills of southeastern oklahoma, he had no sort of "welfare" or anything else to get him out of the position he was born into except hard work and determination. He started a small sheetmetal company in Georgia and by the late 1980's he was pulling in millions of dollars of profit thanks to his hard work and determination. Now under clinton he was taxed in the top 10% of people in the united states which basically means he was punished for making money so that some poor man who was to lazy to get a job could survive. That to me is wrong. Liberals kill the desire to prosper and this in turn leads to the downfall of a nation. I may be young but I know that the only right way to get ahead is to work hard not to live off the taxes of someone who is well off.

I understand your point. But the flip side of this argument is a more just and prosperous society benefits us all, especially those who are making windfall profits in the private sector.

Whether or not they feel a need to share financial responsibility to maintain this climate and standard of living for all people is a matter of perception, for society to remain a profitable enough a marketplace they should have to pay their fair share.

I am taxed on 100% of my income to provide for Social Security for those who may need it someday, and I am proud and quite happy to do this. However, for many of the rich, only a very small percentage of their income is taxed for this.

That is not fair taxation and only one example of how the rich do NOT pay their fair share. This needs to change

Loonie @ 31:

wjacobw11 @ 7:

John McCain is much better at running his party than Barack Obama.

Why would Obama run McCain's party?

In fact I'm pretty sure Barack Obama has never run anything in his entire life.

Ooh, is that a little bit of doubt there? Why not complete certainty? If I didn't know better I might suspect nescience on your part.

The only way this county will survive the next four years is if we stick to our conservative values that this country was established on.

And what conservative values would those be, mister historian?

I am a young college student and even i agree with this.

er... "even i agree with this"? Are you implying that young college students have poor judgment or something?

I was raised to see what is right and wrong

I'm sure you were; conveniently bypassing all that thinking stuff, it would seem.

...and I can tell you right now that obama is wrong for this country.

You can? Wow, what a multi-talented individual you are. You can say stuff! I guess your super right/wrong-discerning powers helped you formulate this statement, seeing as no reasons have been provided as to why this would be the case.

More and more college students around the United States are joining the McCain party and if Obama cant reach out to the young people of America how does he expect to win because we all know the elderly and wealthy people of this nation are going to vote McCain.

Oops, you forgot to provide anything to back that assertion up. Best see to that right away.

Your dorm's a/c must have a serious freon leak.

Loonie: I dont have to have exact numbers to tell you that obama has no expierence its obvious listen to the man talk. On top of that the difference between right and wrong is what matters in the end anyway, you can think about whatever you want but in the end its the right and wrong that makes the difference. The conservative values our country was founded on are those of hard work getting the job done not getting things handed out to us as so many liberals are trying to do, and our christain values are so against things like abortion and gay rights both of which arewrong no matter how you look at it. On top of that it is our duty as a nation to help promote democracy in other countries even if that means using military force to do so aka "speak softly carry a big stick." liberals would see the united states get pushed around and lose its status as a world power. We freed this country by fighting for it and Obama will not be a strong enough leader to keep us free.

The Bush Economy, part II (Mary Jane Piss in Your Face Cheese Time)

…march 2008

Consumer Confidence at its lowest level since 2002.

And in the last month or two…

The 4,000th soldier died in Iraq.

Iraq is costing US taxpayers 12 Billion a Month.
$4,000 per second.

Consumers increased their borrowing by 7 Billion in January.

Bush’s recession, more job cuts, banks running out of cash.

Gas prices at an all time high, oil at $110 a barrel.

U.S. Home Foreclosures up 70%.

300,000 homes were in default, and the number
is rising.

Bank seizures were up 123% last month.

The steepest drop in housing value in 40 years.

There will be more than 1 million bank repossessions
by the end of 2008.

Gas prices in 2002, $1.39 a gallon.
Gas prices in 2008, $3.31 a gallon.

I was at the pump two weeks ago,
on a cold Indiana February morning.
A beautiful black woman pulled up
to the opposite pump.

She started filling her car up
and said to me, “I don’t know how people
are going to make it.”

I said, “I know. It’s awful.”

120,000 families filed bankruptcy last month.

100,000 non-farm jobs lost in the last two months.

40,000 construction jobs lost last month.

60,000 manufacturing jobs lost.

30,000 temporary jobs lost.

One half of one million have become so desperate
that they have stopped looking for work.

The only reason people aren’t living
in shanty towns is because they cannot afford
the shanty.

wjacobw11 @ 30:

Outwestern @ 27:

wjacobw11 @ 17:

odanny @ 11:

"He started a small sheetmetal company in Georgia and by the late 1980's he was pulling in millions of dollars of profit thanks to his hard work and determination."

I can see his hard work and determination getting the company started, but I bet it was his employees who were responsible for generating the profit.

Yes I am sure it was his employees helping draw in the profit but without his company none of these employees would have been employed so he not only drew in profit for himself he helped his employees put food on the table for their familys. This is how I know that conservative values work. Hard work will propel anyone to a brighter future. Looking for welfare handouts will not.

spare me the conservative values. this republican party
is far from conservative. please check the deficit and
the ongoing spending. many of us understand hard
work. we also understand that pain raised taxes on
oil company profits....i will remind you the republicans
were the majority in congress during clinton administration. your president has got us involved in
nation building,wars,devalued dollar and economic
crisis........spare your simpleton lecture from Oral Roberts.

The Treasury Department has a TRILLION $ at its disposal they can spend without Congressional approval? How does that work? And if it's true, why did the administration ask Congress for 700 Billion if they already have a trillion they can spend on this?

Somebody please explain this to me - or could it be that McCain is even more full of shit than I thought?

wjacobw11@35

On top of that it is our duty as a nation to help promote democracy in other countries even if that means using military force to do so aka “speak softly carry a big stick.” liberals would see the united states get pushed around and lose its status as a world power. We freed this country by fighting for it and Obama will not be a strong enough leader to keep us free.

Hey kid, the problem with someone like you is you are all for promoting war under the banner of "democracy" which means how many families will be killed, strafed, maimed or terrorized so capitalism can secure another market to either sell its wares, or plunder its resources? You dont understand because you are not very bright or you lack compassion for other human beings, or perhaps both. But it is one or the other. I hope you come to your senses someday

So, McHoover's Big Move turned to shit?

Even the Repubicans won't follow the Maverick.

Bucky @ 38:

The Treasury Department has a TRILLION $ at its disposal they can spend without Congressional approval? How does that work? And if it's true, why did the administration ask Congress for 700 Billion if they already have a trillion they can spend on this?

Somebody please explain this to me - or could it be that McCain is even more full of shit than I thought?

He wants to steal it from the SSA Trust.

wjacobw11 @ 30:

Outwestern @ 27:

wjacobw11 @ 17:

odanny @ 11:

"He started a small sheetmetal company in Georgia and by the late 1980's he was pulling in millions of dollars of profit thanks to his hard work and determination."

I can see his hard work and determination getting the company started, but I bet it was his employees who were responsible for generating the profit.

Yes I am sure it was his employees helping draw in the profit but without his company none of these employees would have been employed so he not only drew in profit for himself he helped his employees put food on the table for their familys. This is how I know that conservative values work. Hard work will propel anyone to a brighter future. Looking for welfare handouts will not.

There is no disputing that. But I wonder if "revenue", "sales", or "cash flow" would have been more appropriate terms to use. Profit is what's left after the bills are paid, so if it is in the millions, I really hope his employees aren't relying of Kraft Dinner.

'real conservatives' are NOT interested in:

nation building
war(s) intanglements
devalued dollar
deficit spending
wall street bailout
the 'republican' party is NOT conservative. look at Palin
she raised taxes on oil company profits...thats NOT
conservative.

entanglements

odanny @ 39:

wjacobw11@35

On top of that it is our duty as a nation to help promote democracy in other countries even if that means using military force to do so aka “speak softly carry a big stick.” liberals would see the united states get pushed around and lose its status as a world power. We freed this country by fighting for it and Obama will not be a strong enough leader to keep us free.

Hey kid, the problem with someone like you is you are all for promoting war under the banner of "democracy" which means how many families will be killed, strafed, maimed or terrorized so capitalism can secure another market to either sell its wares, or plunder its resources? You dont understand because you are not very bright or you lack compassion for other human beings, or perhaps both. But it is one or the other. I hope you come to your senses someday

odanny @ 39:

wjacobw11@35

On top of that it is our duty as a nation to help promote democracy in other countries even if that means using military force to do so aka “speak softly carry a big stick.” liberals would see the united states get pushed around and lose its status as a world power. We freed this country by fighting for it and Obama will not be a strong enough leader to keep us free.

Hey kid, the problem with someone like you is you are all for promoting war under the banner of "democracy" which means how many families will be killed, strafed, maimed or terrorized so capitalism can secure another market to either sell its wares, or plunder its resources? You dont understand because you are not very bright or you lack compassion for other human beings, or perhaps both. But it is one or the other. I hope you come to your senses someday

Yes sir I do think that human life is precious, but we in America run a volunteer army. People who join the army join knowing the sacrifice they may have to make. My best friend from high school, my uncle, and my counsin all are serving in the United States army. Freedom isnt free it never has been. I have a English class with a girl from Iraq. She spoke to the class the other day staing how thankful she was to the American people. She said until the war in Iraq she had never been allowed to see a doctor because women arent allowed to be doctors in their country, yet women are not allowed to be seen by male physicians either sounds like a problem to me. People any people desire to be free but this freedom doesnt come without a cost this has been proven throughout history.

wjacobw11 @ 35:
Loonie: I dont have to have exact numbers to tell you that obama has no expierence its obvious listen to the man talk. On top of that the difference between right and wrong is what matters in the end anyway, you can think about whatever you want but in the end its the right and wrong that makes the difference. The conservative values our country was founded on are those of hard work getting the job done not getting things handed out to us as so many liberals are trying to do, and our christain values are so against things like abortion and gay rights both of which arewrong no matter how you look at it. On top of that it is our duty as a nation to help promote democracy in other countries even if that means using military force to do so aka "speak softly carry a big stick." liberals would see the united states get pushed around and lose its status as a world power. We freed this country by fighting for it and Obama will not be a strong enough leader to keep us free.

This is the kind of drivel they teach you to write in college? I call bullshit: I graduated from college, young man, and the establishments I received my degrees and credentials from expected a higher burden of proof and coherency than you've just demonstrated. They also expected basic grammar. You are no college student.

Someone have a bridge we can stuff this troll under? It's not even worth our time to refute this liar's lunatic rantings.

wjacobw11 @ 45:

odanny @ 39:

wjacobw11@35

On top of that it is our duty as a nation to help promote democracy in other countries even if that means using military force to do so aka “speak softly carry a big stick.” liberals would see the united states get pushed around and lose its status as a world power. We freed this country by fighting for it and Obama will not be a strong enough leader to keep us free.

Hey kid, the problem with someone like you is you are all for promoting war under the banner of "democracy" which means how many families will be killed, strafed, maimed or terrorized so capitalism can secure another market to either sell its wares, or plunder its resources? You dont understand because you are not very bright or you lack compassion for other human beings, or perhaps both. But it is one or the other. I hope you come to your senses someday

odanny @ 39:

wjacobw11@35

On top of that it is our duty as a nation to help promote democracy in other countries even if that means using military force to do so aka “speak softly carry a big stick.” liberals would see the united states get pushed around and lose its status as a world power. We freed this country by fighting for it and Obama will not be a strong enough leader to keep us free.

Hey kid, the problem with someone like you is you are all for promoting war under the banner of "democracy" which means how many families will be killed, strafed, maimed or terrorized so capitalism can secure another market to either sell its wares, or plunder its resources? You dont understand because you are not very bright or you lack compassion for other human beings, or perhaps both. But it is one or the other. I hope you come to your senses someday

Yes sir I do think that human life is precious, but we in America run a volunteer army. People who join the army join knowing the sacrifice they may have to make. My best friend from high school, my uncle, and my counsin all are serving in the United States army. Freedom isnt free it never has been. I have a English class with a girl from Iraq. She spoke to the class the other day staing how thankful she was to the American people. She said until the war in Iraq she had never been allowed to see a doctor because women arent allowed to be doctors in their country, yet women are not allowed to be seen by male physicians either sounds like a problem to me. People any people desire to be free but this freedom doesnt come without a cost this has been proven throughout history.

thanks for the positive story NOW tell us about the
innocent women and children that have killed. remind
us of the thousands of people that have left iraq for
surrounding countries putting a burden on their services. Alan Greenspan said the iraq invasion/occupation was for oil. there are many other sources that tell the real story. your still addressing the
fact that NATION building is NOT CONSERVATIVE. these
wars are for resources please get a grip. the democracy theme is a shield. bring american democracy to saudia arabia,n.korea ,china.

"I have a English class"

Looks like you need it.

"liberals would see the united states get pushed around and lose its status as a world power"

What do you think has happend to our status in the world as a result of the Bush doctrine?

bananaphone @ 46:

wjacobw11 @ 35:
Loonie: I dont have to have exact numbers to tell you that obama has no expierence its obvious listen to the man talk. On top of that the difference between right and wrong is what matters in the end anyway, you can think about whatever you want but in the end its the right and wrong that makes the difference. The conservative values our country was founded on are those of hard work getting the job done not getting things handed out to us as so many liberals are trying to do, and our christain values are so against things like abortion and gay rights both of which arewrong no matter how you look at it. On top of that it is our duty as a nation to help promote democracy in other countries even if that means using military force to do so aka "speak softly carry a big stick." liberals would see the united states get pushed around and lose its status as a world power. We freed this country by fighting for it and Obama will not be a strong enough leader to keep us free.

This is the kind of drivel they teach you to write in college? I call bullshit: I graduated from college, young man, and the establishments I received my degrees and credentials from expected a higher burden of proof and coherency than you've just demonstrated. They also expected basic grammar. You are no college student.

Someone have a bridge we can stuff this troll under? It's not even worth our time to refute this liar's lunatic rantings.

Sir I am in college at a state accredited university in Oklahoma. As I write this I am also attempting to write a sociology paper which is due in the a.m. You may have graduated from college I dont doubt this. Though i am not seeing perfect grammer from you either. I was not aware they were inspecting this blog for perfect grammer? The bottom line is we will see another Republican President after the november election. If the democrats had picked a candidate that was more in the middle of the road instead of so far left I may have considered voting democrat, though they did not. I do not wish to offend you but I cannot bring myself to vote for a candidate I feel would bring the downfall of a nation.

The 'downfall of our nation' has already happend thanks to Bush & Cheney & company.

BTW - grammar, not grammer.

I can't stand this guy either but wait a minute. That point was glossed over so professionaly by McCain. He got away from talking about not convincing enough republicans (like 145 of them) to highlighting the 93 Democrats who didn't vote for the Bill and the importance of cutting taxes so people can keep their jobs. He is amazing for getting of a track he doesn't want to be on.

wjacobw11 @ 49:

bananaphone @ 46:

wjacobw11 @ 35:
Loonie: I dont have to have exact numbers to tell you that obama has no expierence its obvious listen to the man talk. On top of that the difference between right and wrong is what matters in the end anyway, you can think about whatever you want but in the end its the right and wrong that makes the difference. The conservative values our country was founded on are those of hard work getting the job done not getting things handed out to us as so many liberals are trying to do, and our christain values are so against things like abortion and gay rights both of which arewrong no matter how you look at it. On top of that it is our duty as a nation to help promote democracy in other countries even if that means using military force to do so aka "speak softly carry a big stick." liberals would see the united states get pushed around and lose its status as a world power. We freed this country by fighting for it and Obama will not be a strong enough leader to keep us free.

This is the kind of drivel they teach you to write in college? I call bullshit: I graduated from college, young man, and the establishments I received my degrees and credentials from expected a higher burden of proof and coherency than you've just demonstrated. They also expected basic grammar. You are no college student.

Someone have a bridge we can stuff this troll under? It's not even worth our time to refute this liar's lunatic rantings.

Sir I am in college at a state accredited university in Oklahoma. As I write this I am also attempting to write a sociology paper which is due in the a.m. You may have graduated from college I dont doubt this. Though i am not seeing perfect grammer from you either. I was not aware they were inspecting this blog for perfect grammer? The bottom line is we will see another Republican President after the november election. If the democrats had picked a candidate that was more in the middle of the road instead of so far left I may have considered voting democrat, though they did not. I do not wish to offend you but I cannot bring myself to vote for a candidate I feel would bring the downfall of a nation.

Oral Roberts........anybody can get in with money and
the good book. NO comments about Palin raising taxes
on oil company profits....BUSH nation building,bailout
and deficit spending.......your honestly feel good about
mccain and palin these two barely graduated from college. hard work mccain has been in government
his entire life....so what.

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constituent @ 52:

wjacobw11 @ 49:

bananaphone @ 46:

wjacobw11 @ 35:
Loonie: I dont have to have exact numbers to tell you that obama has no experience its obvious listen to the man talk. On top of that the difference between right and wrong is what matters in the end anyway, you can think about whatever you want but in the end its the right and wrong that makes the difference. The conservative values our country was founded on are those of hard work getting the job done not getting things handed out to us as so many liberals are trying to do, and our Christan values are so against things like abortion and gay rights both of which are wrong no matter how you look at it. On top of that it is our duty as a nation to help promote democracy in other countries even if that means using military force to do so aka "speak softly carry a big stick." liberals would see the united states get pushed around and lose its status as a world power. We freed this country by fighting for it and Obama will not be a strong enough leader to keep us free.

This is the kind of drivel they teach you to write in college? I call bullshit: I graduated from college, young man, and the establishments I received my degrees and credentials from expected a higher burden of proof and coherency than you've just demonstrated. They also expected basic grammar. You are no college student.

Someone have a bridge we can stuff this troll under? It's not even worth our time to refute this liar's lunatic rantings.

Sir I am in college at a state accredited university in Oklahoma. As I write this I am also attempting to write a sociology paper which is due in the a.m. You may have graduated from college I dont doubt this. Though i am not seeing perfect grammer from you either. I was not aware they were inspecting this blog for perfect grammer? The bottom line is we will see another Republican President after the november election. If the democrats had picked a candidate that was more in the middle of the road instead of so far left I may have considered voting democrat, though they did not. I do not wish to offend you but I cannot bring myself to vote for a candidate I feel would bring the downfall of a nation.

Oral Roberts........anybody can get in with money and
the good book. NO comments about Palin raising taxes
on oil company profits....BUSH nation building,bailout
and deficit spending.......your honestly feel good about
mccain and palin these two barely graduated from college. hard work mccain has been in government
his entire life....so what.

John McCain may have barely graduated college but I'm not sure that graduating college was that big of a deal while he was getting tortured by the vietcong yet refusing to leave his men. He leads by example not what he learned at a University. I am not supportive of "on the job training" that will be neccesary for obama so that is what pushes me to vote conservative. Speaking of raising taxes has anyone watch Obama's interview with O'Riley talk about raising taxes anyone with any money wont have it for long if this man runs the country. Could Obama handle a 9/11 I think not!

wjacobw11 @ 54:

constituent @ 52:

wjacobw11 @ 49:

bananaphone @ 46:

This is the kind of drivel they teach you to write in college? I call bullshit: I graduated from college, young man, and the establishments I received my degrees and credentials from expected a higher burden of proof and coherency than you've just demonstrated. They also expected basic grammar. You are no college student.

Someone have a bridge we can stuff this troll under? It's not even worth our time to refute this liar's lunatic rantings.

Sir I am in college at a state accredited university in Oklahoma. As I write this I am also attempting to write a sociology paper which is due in the a.m. You may have graduated from college I dont doubt this. Though i am not seeing perfect grammer from you either. I was not aware they were inspecting this blog for perfect grammer? The bottom line is we will see another Republican President after the november election. If the democrats had picked a candidate that was more in the middle of the road instead of so far left I may have considered voting democrat, though they did not. I do not wish to offend you but I cannot bring myself to vote for a candidate I feel would bring the downfall of a nation.

Oral Roberts........anybody can get in with money and
the good book. NO comments about Palin raising taxes
on oil company profits....BUSH nation building,bailout
and deficit spending.......your honestly feel good about
mccain and palin these two barely graduated from college. hard work mccain has been in government
his entire life....so what.

John McCain may have barely graduated college but I'm not sure that graduating college was that big of a deal while he was getting tortured by the vietcong yet refusing to leave his men. He leads by example not what he learned at a University. I am not supportive of "on the job training" that will be neccesary for obama so that is what pushes me to vote conservative. Speaking of raising taxes has anyone watch Obama's interview with O'Riley talk about raising taxes anyone with any money wont have it for long if this man runs the country. Could Obama handle a 9/11 I think not!

typical you don't respond to palin raising taxes. instead
answer a question witha question. when you have time
look into BUSH approval numbers. you obviously don't
know what you are talking about. enjoy the Oral Roberts kool-aid and whistling onward christian soldiers.

So McCain is not in control of his party.

Not only is mcfeeble toast, his whole party is too.

wjawco11 wrote:

Though i am not seeing perfect grammer from you either.
--------------------------------
This poser can't even spell grammar, much less know what is perfect.

if mccain has all the answers why didn't he get elected
in 2000? instead republicans voted for BUSH. who
was a weak governor of texas.
NOW mccain all of a sudden has all the answers. when
you have time watch/read material put out by BUSH
about mccain.

Don't feed the trolls.

Dave
Viet Vet

wjacobw11 @ 35:

Loonie: I dont have to have exact numbers to tell you that obama has no expierence its obvious listen to the man talk.

Unless you have a cerebral cortex. Did he confuse you by not talking to you like a six-year-old?

On top of that the difference between right and wrong is what matters in the end anyway, you can think about whatever you want but in the end its the right and wrong that makes the difference.

And if you delude yourself enough, you can use "right" to justify "wrong". Keep going, you're almost there.

The conservative values our country was founded on are those of hard work getting the job done not getting things handed out to us as so many liberals are trying to do, and our christain values are so against things like abortion and gay rights both of which arewrong no matter how you look at it. On top of that it is our duty as a nation to help promote democracy in other countries even if that means using military force to do so aka "speak softly carry a big stick."

Really? Let's see now...

"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

okayy... hmmm.... *searches* ...sorry, nothing in there about "pulling oneself up by boot straps", or "abortion" or "gay people" or "democracy at the point of a gun". Nothing even about christian values. The only references of a religious nature are "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States" and "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof".

In fact, it seems to actually be almost antithetical to the values you espouse.

liberals would see the united states get pushed around and lose its status as a world power. We freed this country by fighting for it and Obama will not be a strong enough leader to keep us free.

Liberals are the reason a plebeian like you is even able to have a say in how your country is governed. Why not ask your friendly neighborhood Cherokee how well you freed your country? I'm sure he'll be really impressed with your sanctimonious posturing.

[This has strayed off topic, and the quotes are just bandwidth burners. You've made your points-Sitemonitor]

Dave @ 59:

Don't feed the trolls.

Dave
Viet Vet

I know, I know. It's just they're sort of like pets. Only less smart.

Loonie @ 61:

Dave @ 59:

Don't feed the trolls.

Dave
Viet Vet

I know, I know. It's just they're sort of like pets. Only less smart.

Yea, but then they shit all over the floor until their trained.

Dave
Viet Vet

Huh? "People need credit to make home loan payments"? That's a new one. I need credit to pay the credit already extended to me? Now there's a black hole if ever I saw one. This guy knows jack.

majicman @ 51:

I can't stand this guy either but wait a minute. That point was glossed over so professionaly by McCain. He got away from talking about not convincing enough republicans (like 145 of them) to highlighting the 93 Democrats who didn't vote for the Bill and the importance of cutting taxes so people can keep their jobs. He is amazing for getting of a track he doesn't want to be on.

I think McCain is trying to fillibuster his way through the campaign.

I'm seeing shit all over the floor here...

Dave
Viet Vet

Loonie @ 61:

Dave @ 59:

Don't feed the trolls.

Dave
Viet Vet

I know, I know. It's just they're sort of like pets. Only less smart.

I often wonder if the trolls are some sort of perverse attempt at a Turing test? They almost act like they're intelligent. They have a limited grasp of the right-wing talking points, almost repeating them mechanically. You know, with a bit of perl and some script you could probably replicate 99% of the typical troll speak. Not an original thought required. But then again, thinking isn't required in the Rethuglican party. In fact I'm pretty sure it can get you banned.

McPain/Quaylin hasn't just jumped the shark, they've strafed it as well.

ontheleftcoast @ 67:

Loonie @ 61:

Dave @ 59:

Don't feed the trolls.

Dave
Viet Vet

I know, I know. It's just they're sort of like pets. Only less smart.

I often wonder if the trolls are some sort of perverse attempt at a Turing test? They almost act like they're intelligent. They have a limited grasp of the right-wing talking points, almost repeating them mechanically. You know, with a bit of perl and some script you could probably replicate 99% of the typical troll speak. Not an original thought required. But then again, thinking isn't required in the Rethuglican party. In fact I'm pretty sure it can get you banned.

McPain/Quaylin hasn't just jumped the shark, they've strafed it as well.

With a bit of perl. Now that's what I like. A person who knows their programing languages of old.
But your spot on. And one reason why I try shut them out. It's just so weird how they think. I'm an old guy and I still have critical thinking. Sad.

Dave Viet Vet @ 67:

ontheleftcoast @ 67:

Loonie @ 61:

Dave @ 59:

I know, I know. It's just they're sort of like pets. Only less smart.

I often wonder if the trolls are some sort of perverse attempt at a Turing test? They almost act like they're intelligent. They have a limited grasp of the right-wing talking points, almost repeating them mechanically. You know, with a bit of perl and some script you could probably replicate 99% of the typical troll speak. Not an original thought required. But then again, thinking isn't required in the Rethuglican party. In fact I'm pretty sure it can get you banned.

McPain/Quaylin hasn't just jumped the shark, they've strafed it as well.

With a bit of perl. Now that's what I like. A person who knows their programing languages of old.
But your spot on. And one reason why I try shut them out. It's just so weird how they think. I'm an old guy and I still have critical thinking. Sad.

For me perl is one of those new fangled languages of the 80's. I was programming in Fortran, BASIC, and Cobol when the Vietnam War was still happening. All though to be honest I was still in my teens at the time. Been doing this a loooong time and still love it. But I get your point. When you or I see a mind closed to new ideas, the possibilities that are out there, it makes us cringe.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy. Hamlet Act 1, scene 5

You got to love The Bard of Avon...

LOL, hopefully I'm not the only one who noticed that the troll lost track of his multiple aliases, and responded to himself, but forgot to change the name to one of his aliases.

gouko787 @ 1:

Wow, you geeked it. I think you were looking for "first".

constituent @ 43:

'real conservatives' are NOT interested in:

nation building
war(s) intanglements
devalued dollar
deficit spending
wall street bailout
the 'republican' party is NOT conservative. look at Palin
she raised taxes on oil company profits...thats NOT
conservative.

real progressives aren't interested in seeing their country's economy forever beholden to the whims of a private bank.

just ask theodore roosevelt and the bull moose party.

Is it just me, or do I find McCain (hereafter known as McCopy) taking Senator Obama's lines, like ""Main Street" references and now saying HE proposed to the President that the insurance cap be raised to 250,000 .... I mean WTF?!

wjacobw11 @ 34:

On top of that it is our duty as a nation to help promote democracy in other countries even if that means using military force to do so aka "speak softly carry a big stick." liberals would see the united states get pushed around and lose its status as a world power. We freed this country by fighting for it and Obama will not be a strong enough leader to keep us free.

trust me.. the rest of us can do without you sticking your unwelcome snout in our affairs.. especially those of us who already have democracies (although apparently some democracies are not as equal as others - or to your preference more like)

and that goes double for you and your christian values.. i can do without some close minded fuck telling me what i can and can't do.. where's the "freedom" in that?

fucking troll

ps - your bff bush is likely responsible for the destruction of your status as a super power buddy.. look around you.. china and india surging in economic strength.. russia rebuilding its military.. chavez thumbing his nose at you down south.. iran and north korea defying your non-nuclear orders.. your economy completely and utterly tanking.. how are you going to afford to wield this "big stick" of yours against these countless hot spots doodah? and whose watch did all this happen on..

"Mc Cain did not change the republicans mind " YES. In all fairness, neither did OBAMA.

The $700 billion, bailout (now renamed rescue) WILL not reverse Recession. Period.

Therefore $700 billion rescue is better saved as a leverage. That money can support those (including the losers from WALL STREET and the employers and investors connected to the failing CREDIT industries in the unemployment benefit line and for those still employed a relief from foreclosures. This $700B rescue will help the economy from the bottom up UNTIL the PROFESSIONALS and ANALYST, auditors and accountants and actuaries and economist plug all the loopholes that caused the CREDIT CRISIS. When that is fixed, and regulations are in place, employment will begin to gradually improve with time, CONFIDENCE will strengthen and the MARKET and ECONOMY will EVENTUALLY improve.

RECESSION will afford us all the time to reflect what went wrong and to learn from it. Only then will WE as a NATION will find the VALUES that WE have LOST; the meaning of being responsible; AND to make SURE THAT THIS will not happen AGAIN.

GREED has blinded many to the POINT that it (HONESTY, INTEGRITY, STRENGHT, TRUST, and CREDIBILITY) didn't matter so long as the selfish (I) is not hurt by the selfish and crooked and lying PRESIDENT.

OUR nation has become a "ME first" culture over our family, friends and our Country.

WE HAVE FORGOTTEN the BASIC principles that made AMERICA the envy of the WORLD.

BUSH/CHENEY culture is a metaphor of WHAT our NATION has become.

AMERICA has forgotten and must remember WHAT BUSH did to TEXAS was profit big-time from destruction and looting done to his home state and he has learn that very well and TRIED to do the same to the next level and accomplished the looting to our national treasury. But that was not enough. That is plain and simple. GREED. HE and his culprits WAS HOPING TO DO THE FINAL LOOTING to the WHOLE WORLD.

BUT the WORLD KNOWS better. THE WORLD WATCHED and knew it was coming. HE and his COHORTS will be held ACCOUNTABLE; if not in the court of LAW; by the VERY PEOPLE THAT HE HURT.

The punishment will be far greater than that, from the court of law. They would wish they were in prison. The WORLD is only ONE and the HELL as we define it will be with them for the rest of their living days. Their own conscience will never escape them. For WE will remind them every where they go.

AMERICA is STRONG and WE WILL GET OVER THIS. I promise ONCE WE free ourselves with these EVIL culture.

I have not changed my alias or anything else I just got bored listening to people like hermonius prove that liberals really dont know what they are talking about. I am not telling you what you can or can not do but in the end christian values are what will save this country.

wjacobw11 @ 48:

bananaphone @ 46:

wjacobw11 @ 35:
Loonie: I dont have to have exact numbers to tell you that obama has no expierence its obvious listen to the man talk. On top of that the difference between right and wrong is what matters in the end anyway, you can think about whatever you want but in the end its the right and wrong that makes the difference. The conservative values our country was founded on are those of hard work getting the job done not getting things handed out to us as so many liberals are trying to do, and our christain values are so against things like abortion and gay rights both of which arewrong no matter how you look at it. On top of that it is our duty as a nation to help promote democracy in other countries even if that means using military force to do so aka "speak softly carry a big stick." liberals would see the united states get pushed around and lose its status as a world power. We freed this country by fighting for it and Obama will not be a strong enough leader to keep us free.

This is the kind of drivel they teach you to write in college? I call bullshit: I graduated from college, young man, and the establishments I received my degrees and credentials from expected a higher burden of proof and coherency than you've just demonstrated. They also expected basic grammar. You are no college student.

Someone have a bridge we can stuff this troll under? It's not even worth our time to refute this liar's lunatic rantings.

Sir I am in college at a state accredited university in Oklahoma. As I write this I am also attempting to write a sociology paper which is due in the a.m. You may have graduated from college I dont doubt this. Though i am not seeing perfect grammer from you either. I was not aware they were inspecting this blog for perfect grammer? The bottom line is we will see another Republican President after the november election. If the democrats had picked a candidate that was more in the middle of the road instead of so far left I may have considered voting democrat, though they did not. I do not wish to offend you but I cannot bring myself to vote for a candidate I feel would bring the downfall of a nation.

I say let this poor fellow alone. He's earnest -- and terribly myopic, provincial and misguided. To paraphrase Jesus H. Christ: Forgive him, for he knows not what he says or does.

Peace and aloha,

BID

When referencing Andrea Mitchel's reports...sure do wish we could adopt the practice of calling her ...Mrs. Alan Greenspan...Too Sexist? This whole bailout...aka...National Socialism...seems to be bout restoring "confidence" among the Wall Street(Walkers) the question arises..Who gets the Bill for this "confidence game"?

So John, you lied to Americans about your influence on the bill and your bipartisan leadership?

Or are you lying now?

Because now your telling Americans a former disgraced republican congressman is
"running things over there"?

The GOP isn't a party. It is a group of lunatics.

Who's in charge? Not McCain. He can't even run his own campaign (See the C&L story about Steve Schmidt taking McCain's cellphone from him). Bush? Hardly. Cheney? Even the neocons are sick of him.
The party has fractured and now it's every base for themselves.

i'm not a liberal wjacobw11.. in case you didn't actually read my words i am not even an american (which given you can't even spell my screen-name kind of puts that in perspective).. in my country we don't have the same slur or connotation on the word liberal (given its roots in the word liberty.. the very freedom you doth pretend to value)..

indeed in my country the very party that most resembles your Republicans has adopted that moniker for itself.. go figure.

Then why heronimous are you on an american blog. I dont know what country you are from though I would like to guess maybe france from your stance on American Politics. Liberals in the United States are left wingist who stand by things like pro abortion, gay rights, and have a very pacifist outlook. You may have already known that but I am not sure. If your country is democratic then you very likely have the Conservative United States to thank for that in one way or another.

Man, talking about being caught unprepared. He had stump points ready, but did not have a transition for the way the question which was asked. Sure made him look like a 80 year-old senile fart (oops 70).

wjacobw11 might have a bright (sic) future in McCain's DOJ. Meanwhile, why is Newt Gingrich interfering with the work of elected officials?

1. WTF is Newt Gingrich doing injecting himself here? He's not an elected official anymore.
2. Why did McCain go into a talking point stump while addressing this issue? That's just retarded an out of place given the severity of the issue. It's a joke that he suspended his campaign when it couldn't be further from the truth.

Where exactly does it say it's an American blog restricted to Americans only?

Hint: It's a rhetorical question. I insist you don't answer it.

I can understand the pregnant pause at the start of the interview, because the guy who's not Steve Doocy didn't actually ask McCain a question. McCain could be credited for picking-up at all.

However, I was surprised by Gretchen Carlson actually challenging McCain on his ineffectiveness last week. Surprising. Makes me wonder if Fox News and many Republicans aren't starting to count McCain as a lost cause and so are starting to reposition and rebrand themselves.

wjacobw11 @ 80:

... I dont know what country you are from though I would like to guess maybe france from your stance on American Politics. ... If your country is democratic then you very likely have the Conservative United States to thank for that in one way or another.

Yeah, like those great Conservatives, Franklin Roosevelt & Harry Truman, who led the Allied Forces to victory in World War 2, and the Marshall Plan, a sterling example of small government Conservative policies, that spurred the redevelopment of post-WW2 Europe.

Liberalism restored democracy to Europe; and Conservatism is doing its damnedest to midwife Facism into the 21st century.

"Republican Minds"?
Now there's an oxymoron.

Increasing the FDIC insured deposit up to $250K from $100K would only increase the FEDERAL liability and give the wall street gamblers a safe haven to stash their profits from other peoples miseries. For now their safe haven seems to be bonds t-bills and OIL.

OIL will be the next bubble to BUST; IF OIL prices does NOT reverse it's upward trend. OIL inventories are rising as PEOPLE becomes unemployed and recessions becomes more serious. OIL industries must share it's burden in the economic rescue OR face the same demise of the Real Estate Bust and Credit crisis. Our economic system can not sustain under this condition. OIL industry will lose a significant demand IF it does not adjust to the market conditions. This INDUSTRY has ALL the symptoms of a pandemic culture of GREED.

No bail-out until this sector of our economy is ALSO CONTROLLED.

For the sake of the WORLD ECONOMY; BUSH should be ban from speaking. He is contributing to the market skepticism and helping accelerate the falling MARKET CONFIDENCE.

THE LAME DUCK PRESIDENT has NO MORE CREDIBILITY.....................

WE THE PEOPLE DON'T BUY into what he says or think. WE HAVE known the danger for a long time and NOTHING he says is anything NEW. And PELOSI, REID, and BOEHNER the media that LIED and SOLD this CHAOS to the WORLD also have lost their CREDIBILITY and lost the trust of the AMERICAN people.

Did Newt Gingrich get elected to Congress and I missed it? What the hell was he doing inserting himself into this situation? Talk about presumptuous.

This is obviously one of those "gothcha" moments that the mean old media thrust upon the lovely Palin and her grandfather!

Shame on them!

Typical of CNN and MNSBC - left wing commie liberal loonies!

Oh wait - it was on Fox?

Obviously taken out of context and the Fox reporter who was involved will have a desk job in the basement from tomorrow.

How many times do they have to be told!!!

Only Sean Hannity, Anne Coulter, Michelle Malkin and Bill O'Reilly are allowed to interview Palin and MCain - and NOONE ELSE!

And for god's sake people - DO NOT ALLOW the likes of that leftwing communist lesbian Katie Couric to do any more interviews!!!

She is obviously an Obama supporter and is constantly asking really tough -gotcha- type questions!!!

Just stick to the Fox reporters - they ARE fair and balanced of course!!!

George Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years. The first six the economy was fine.
A little over one and a half year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%.
4) the DOW JONES hit a record high--14,000 +
5) American's were buying new cars, taking cruises, vacations overseas, living large!...
But American's wanted 'CHANGE'! So, in 2006 they voted in a Democratic Congress and yes--we got 'CHANGE' all right.
In the PAST YEAR AND A HALF:
1) Consumer confidence has plummeted ;
2) Gasoline is now over $4 a gallon & climbing!;
3) Unemployment is up to 5.5% (a 10% increase);
4) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 TRILLION
DOLLARS and prices still dropping;
5) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
6) as I write, THE DOW is probing another low~~
$2.5 TRILLION DOLLARS HAS EVAPORATED FROM THEIR
STOCKS, BONDS & MUTUAL FUNDS INVESTMENT
PORTFOLIOS!
YES, IN 2006 AMERICA VOTED FOR CHANGE...AND WE SURE GOT IT! ....
REMEMBER THE PRESIDENT HAS NO CONTROL OVER ANY OF THESE ISSUES, ONLY CONGRESS.
AND WHAT HAS CONGRESS DONE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
NOW THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT CLAIMS HE IS GOING TO REALLY
GIVE US CHANGE ALONG WITH A DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS!!!!
JUST HOW MUCH MORE 'CHANGE' DO YOU THINK YOU CAN STAND?

I feel for the home owner with the high mortgage with the value of the dollar dropping, but the LENDER should be held accountable - not my tax dollars. Since the home owner was "talked into" living above his means, someone should pay - NOT ME. And those fat cats on Wall Street - let them pay for their mistakes.

George Bush theory? Print more moolah. What a jerk!!!!

NOW IT'S A "RESCUE" PLAN. WHAT HAPPENED TO "BAILOUT"?

McCain has made stealing Obama's idea a new campaign strategery. such a maverick. and a joke.

This post is addressed to all the so-called Conservatives who keep boasting about how being a conservative helps this country. If you look at History, conservative leaning politicians and the Republican Party has taken this country down a dangerous path. They have shown IMO how to be war-like, devious, stealth, self-serving,.dishonest, unpatriotic, two faced, childish, misinformed, ignorant, close minded, uncaring and the list goes on. Bush and company has sold this country a bill of traitorous goods. If being a Conservatives means controlling MSM and using it to tell the country unadulterated lies then you are a Conservative. If being a Conservative means turning the Constitution into an insignificant document then you are a Conservative. If perpetrating a fraud on this country by telling us that Osama Bin Laden was responsible for what happened on 9-11 then you are a Conservative. If you are part of the grand conspiracy that would use human lives in order to change the status quo then you are a Conservative. Dennis Kucinich says it very well and that is America needs to wake up and smell the BS that is being dumped on us and has been for more than a decade. Since 1995, Republicans have been in control and it has been disasterous. They have allowed our tax dollars to be doled out to the Military War Complex. If you look at their balance sheet, they are the only industry that has consistently shown a profit. We need to decrease Defense spending because if we don't it will bankrupt us. We cannot remain silent about this so-called sacred cow and it needs to be addressed to get rid of the waste or overcharges that has occurred in our name. I blame the Republicans for placing us in this precarious posture of being the BIG BAD BULLy in the world. A poll was given sometime ago and the poll showed that most Americans do not have a clue of what is really happening to them as a country and the Republicans have been part of the deception. For them to continue to strive for a victory on the Iraq issue is obscene. We must remember that Bush lied about why we invaded and killed so many people in the name of that lie. Bush and Cheney orchestrated the so-called attack on the citizens of New York with the fake claim that it was Al Queda that was responsible when the evidence shows that it was an inside job. Osama Bin Laden was just the fall guy. Attempts to capture him has been laughable when they knew his location. We need to change this climate of Conservatism and change our culture to more Progressive values. Conservatism did not work for Hitler and its not working for the Imperial Presidency. There should be a National Holiday declaring that Conservatism is DEAD.

wjacobw11 @ 80:

Then why heronimous are you on an american blog. I dont know what country you are from though I would like to guess maybe france from your stance on American Politics. Liberals in the United States are left wingist who stand by things like pro abortion, gay rights, and have a very pacifist outlook. You may have already known that but I am not sure. If your country is democratic then you very likely have the Conservative United States to thank for that in one way or another.

If I wanted to, I could ask why are you on a traditionally liberal blog? Typical of neo-con republican, stay away from what I think is mine, well its not. Most of us welcome comments from those around the world. wjacob11, its how we learn about others, which you are no doubt, incapable of. So, shut the hell up, keep your comments about yourself and what you believe and don't tell other what they can and cannot do with their lives. This is a comment that has your head shaking in lack of understanding.

Of course McCain was unprepared. Why would he expect FOX of all new orgs to challenge him?

Dontcha just love the fake sincerity? Know why his sincerity doesn't play? There's no oomph behind it. He's run out of gas, poor warrior.

I get so sick and tired of watching politicians shamelessly stealing ideas of their opponents. Did you notice the confusion in McCains mind as he had to sort out how he could deal with Obama suggesting a great idea? Then shifting into idea theft mode.

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