John McCain: He admits he 'didn't change Republican minds' on the bail out
By John Amato Monday Sep 29, 2008 7:45pm
This is one of those moments when the unexpected comes out of nowhere. Of all places FOX & Friends announced to Sen. McCain that Sen, Obama had led the way on asking to increase the FDIC program up to 250K and what was HE going to do....And it gets better....
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Q: Barack Obama already has a proposal to revive negotiations. He wants to increase the amount of money guaranteed by the FDIC of 100 to 250K . What would Sen, John McCain do? Well let's ask him. Sen. McCain, your serve. Barack Obama has made a bold move.
(Silence and blinking from McCain) McCain: Uh, I, I uhhh talked with the President this morning....
He looked like he was not prepared for that. And then he was forced to admit that he did not save the day when he suspended his campaign last Thursday and went to DC to whip the Republicans to vote for the bail out. He was supposed to be the savior.
Q: So Senator are you saying that you went back to get more Republicans on board so then you are in favor of voting yes yesterday. And in essence then going back...
McCain: Oh, Absolutely.
Q: OK, well then going back last week---did not change enough Republicans minds.
McCain: No, it didn't change enough Republican minds. We're going to have to change enough Republican and Democrats minds...
So McCain is not in control of his party. I guess Newt Gingrich really is running things over there.
NBC’s Andrea Mitchell reported this morning that conservatives may have been taking their marching orders from former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, who “was whipping against this up until the last minute” — despite issuing a statement supporting the bill as the vote was taking place...read on
That's very scary for a number of reasons...
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fucking useless P-O-S
Newt said fu*k you McCain, I'm getting ready for 2012.
Both candidates will screw you tomorrow:
"Senate to vote on financial rescue plan Wednesday ".
wow. So what's everyone going to be drinking on election night? I'm leaning towards Yuengling Lager...
John McCain is much better at running his party than Barack Obama. In fact I'm pretty sure Barack Obama has never run anything in his entire life. The only way this county will survive the next four years is if we stick to our conservative values that this country was established on. I am a young college student and even i agree with this. I was raised to see what is right and wrong and I can tell you right now that obama is wrong for this country. More and more college students around the United States are joining the McCain party and if Obama cant reach out to the young people of America how does he expect to win because we all know the elderly and wealthy people of this nation are going to vote McCain.
"so people can keep-stay in their homes," you know, put food on their family, gvsjonomy energy molecules and stuff.
McCain, Bush and Palin
The baby talk party 08!
He was hoping that broad would change his Depends.
I'm sorry, there is not a politician saying anything right now to convince me I need to be saddled with 700 billion dollars of Wall Street debt. With that said, FOX seems to take a tougher tack with McCain in this interview than is customary (even the boneheads on FOX & Friends) and this could be due to the hilarity of McCain/Palin being seriously considered Presidential is even too much for Rupert to swallow
wjacobw11 @ 7:
You have much to learn grasshopper. I'm almost afraid to ask what college you attend.
Oral Roberts Univ.?
Uh, did I mishear it after his stuttering? If not, why didn't you note (or why didn't the Fox and Fiends), that McCain claimed it was HE that recommended (to the President) the FDIC raise from 100K to 250K? It makes it sound like it was his idea. Again.
seriously @ 6:
Great beer. Not for sale in Illinois. Serious bummer there
should we be surprised that there's so much confusion on both sides of the aisle?
where's the bull moose party when you need it?!
To Bailout Palin, McCain Proposes VP Debate Without Sound
Did McCain say he called the president to raise FDIC from $100,000 to $200,000 too?
odanny @ 11:
Dear wjacobw11,
Be sure to take some Math while you're in college. It will help you learn how to think.
If you watch McCain's eyes, you can see that he is feverishly blinking out the following Morse Code:
dot, dot, dot - dash, dash, dash - dot, dot, dot
(= SOS)
I think we have to keep our eye on the real political action here. This is a major Republican repudiation of George Bush's bailout request. Presidential candidates have no real leverage in this. The Democrats in congress, in the interests of the country-and as Nancy Pelosi perfectly expressed-despite their distaste for the failed ideology that got us here, were willing to get this done.
This is just a cosmic insult to the President and his Treasury Secretary from their own rabid dog conservative Representatives. This is the narrative that the main stream media seems to be missing.
Well, I guess it's not a bad thing that McCain looks so bad and is getting the trouncing that he deserves.
wjacobw11 @ 7:
Oooh! Teacher, teacher, can I play "Spot the Troll!"
Like the quote in Animal House says, "Drunk and stupid is no way to go thru life".
You can delude yourself into believing 'young people of American' are following the CryptKeeper or you can look at the facts at a place like 538 that actually post internal data and methodology. Something you'd learn about if you actually went to college and took a course in statistics. BTW, virtually nothing on FAUX or Sludge is a fact. Sure, you can read it but you can't actually back it up with hard data or emperical evidence. See the debacle of the "split in PA" video posted earlier.
Oh, and getting something nice with your McCain points. I hear the tin-foil hats are all the rage this year.
"The dead have risen and they're voting Republican!"
i'm not kidding. if t.r. had won, woody wilson never would've gotten his dumb @$$ blackmailed, and we never would have had this damn 100-year curse.
an assassin tried to shoot t.r. -but the transcript of the speech he was about to deliver saved him. and he still delivered the speech.
america screwed up pretty bad in 1908.
that's also when the cubs curse started...
*1912 on t.r., 1908 on cubs
but they are related
from like :27 to :32, priceless. watching him percolate, just hilarious.
wjacobw11 @ 7:
Obvious Troll is obvious.
odanny @ 10:
agreed. and unfortunately, obama's listening to some slimy advisors.
1st we were told we needed this resolved by friday, then sunday, then monday.
the sky still ain't falling.
i say keep stalling, to prove count paulson's scam for what it is. and give federal investigators more time to nail the crooks & liars.
remember, if something smells like a big, steaming pile of horse$#!+, that's invariably what it is.
wjacobw11 @ 17:
how many times are you going to fall for the same black magic trick?
you know, the one where mesmero swings the stopwatch, then punches you square in the face?
*magick
Outwestern @ 27:
wjacobw11 @ 7:
Why would Obama run McCain's party?
Ooh, is that a little bit of doubt there? Why not complete certainty? If I didn't know better I might suspect nescience on your part.
And what conservative values would those be, mister historian?
er... "even i agree with this"? Are you implying that young college students have poor judgment or something?
I'm sure you were; conveniently bypassing all that thinking stuff, it would seem.
You can? Wow, what a multi-talented individual you are. You can say stuff! I guess your super right/wrong-discerning powers helped you formulate this statement, seeing as no reasons have been provided as to why this would be the case.
Oops, you forgot to provide anything to back that assertion up. Best see to that right away.
Your dorm's a/c must have a serious freon leak.
and, one final comment for this thread:
don't be so naive as to believe there isn't plenty of blame to go around both sides of the aisle.
this is exactly like marvel comics "civil war", where there are good guys and bad guys on both sides, and you have to figure out who is who.
my votes for scum on our side:
BARNEY FRANK
CHRIS DODD
HARRY REID
NANCY PELOSI
DIANNE FEINSTEIN
STENY HOYER
more names forthcoming...
wjacobw11 @ 7:
Callahan's Principle — You can't argue with stupid.
wjacobw11 @ 17:
Loonie @ 31:
Loonie: I dont have to have exact numbers to tell you that obama has no expierence its obvious listen to the man talk. On top of that the difference between right and wrong is what matters in the end anyway, you can think about whatever you want but in the end its the right and wrong that makes the difference. The conservative values our country was founded on are those of hard work getting the job done not getting things handed out to us as so many liberals are trying to do, and our christain values are so against things like abortion and gay rights both of which arewrong no matter how you look at it. On top of that it is our duty as a nation to help promote democracy in other countries even if that means using military force to do so aka "speak softly carry a big stick." liberals would see the united states get pushed around and lose its status as a world power. We freed this country by fighting for it and Obama will not be a strong enough leader to keep us free.
The Bush Economy, part II (Mary Jane Piss in Your Face Cheese Time)
…march 2008
Consumer Confidence at its lowest level since 2002.
And in the last month or two…
The 4,000th soldier died in Iraq.
Iraq is costing US taxpayers 12 Billion a Month.
$4,000 per second.
Consumers increased their borrowing by 7 Billion in January.
Bush’s recession, more job cuts, banks running out of cash.
Gas prices at an all time high, oil at $110 a barrel.
U.S. Home Foreclosures up 70%.
300,000 homes were in default, and the number
is rising.
Bank seizures were up 123% last month.
The steepest drop in housing value in 40 years.
There will be more than 1 million bank repossessions
by the end of 2008.
Gas prices in 2002, $1.39 a gallon.
Gas prices in 2008, $3.31 a gallon.
I was at the pump two weeks ago,
on a cold Indiana February morning.
A beautiful black woman pulled up
to the opposite pump.
She started filling her car up
and said to me, “I don’t know how people
are going to make it.”
I said, “I know. It’s awful.”
120,000 families filed bankruptcy last month.
100,000 non-farm jobs lost in the last two months.
40,000 construction jobs lost last month.
60,000 manufacturing jobs lost.
30,000 temporary jobs lost.
One half of one million have become so desperate
that they have stopped looking for work.
The only reason people aren’t living
in shanty towns is because they cannot afford
the shanty.
wjacobw11 @ 30:
The Treasury Department has a TRILLION $ at its disposal they can spend without Congressional approval? How does that work? And if it's true, why did the administration ask Congress for 700 Billion if they already have a trillion they can spend on this?
Somebody please explain this to me - or could it be that McCain is even more full of shit than I thought?
wjacobw11@35
Hey kid, the problem with someone like you is you are all for promoting war under the banner of "democracy" which means how many families will be killed, strafed, maimed or terrorized so capitalism can secure another market to either sell its wares, or plunder its resources? You dont understand because you are not very bright or you lack compassion for other human beings, or perhaps both. But it is one or the other. I hope you come to your senses someday
So, McHoover's Big Move turned to shit?
Even the Repubicans won't follow the Maverick.
Bucky @ 38:
He wants to steal it from the SSA Trust.
wjacobw11 @ 30:
'real conservatives' are NOT interested in:
nation building
war(s) intanglements
devalued dollar
deficit spending
wall street bailout
the 'republican' party is NOT conservative. look at Palin
she raised taxes on oil company profits...thats NOT
conservative.
entanglements
odanny @ 39:
odanny @ 39:
Yes sir I do think that human life is precious, but we in America run a volunteer army. People who join the army join knowing the sacrifice they may have to make. My best friend from high school, my uncle, and my counsin all are serving in the United States army. Freedom isnt free it never has been. I have a English class with a girl from Iraq. She spoke to the class the other day staing how thankful she was to the American people. She said until the war in Iraq she had never been allowed to see a doctor because women arent allowed to be doctors in their country, yet women are not allowed to be seen by male physicians either sounds like a problem to me. People any people desire to be free but this freedom doesnt come without a cost this has been proven throughout history.
wjacobw11 @ 35:
Loonie: I dont have to have exact numbers to tell you that obama has no expierence its obvious listen to the man talk. On top of that the difference between right and wrong is what matters in the end anyway, you can think about whatever you want but in the end its the right and wrong that makes the difference. The conservative values our country was founded on are those of hard work getting the job done not getting things handed out to us as so many liberals are trying to do, and our christain values are so against things like abortion and gay rights both of which arewrong no matter how you look at it. On top of that it is our duty as a nation to help promote democracy in other countries even if that means using military force to do so aka "speak softly carry a big stick." liberals would see the united states get pushed around and lose its status as a world power. We freed this country by fighting for it and Obama will not be a strong enough leader to keep us free.
This is the kind of drivel they teach you to write in college? I call bullshit: I graduated from college, young man, and the establishments I received my degrees and credentials from expected a higher burden of proof and coherency than you've just demonstrated. They also expected basic grammar. You are no college student.
Someone have a bridge we can stuff this troll under? It's not even worth our time to refute this liar's lunatic rantings.
wjacobw11 @ 45:
thanks for the positive story NOW tell us about the
innocent women and children that have killed. remind
us of the thousands of people that have left iraq for
surrounding countries putting a burden on their services. Alan Greenspan said the iraq invasion/occupation was for oil. there are many other sources that tell the real story. your still addressing the
fact that NATION building is NOT CONSERVATIVE. these
wars are for resources please get a grip. the democracy theme is a shield. bring american democracy to saudia arabia,n.korea ,china.
"I have a English class"
Looks like you need it.
"liberals would see the united states get pushed around and lose its status as a world power"
What do you think has happend to our status in the world as a result of the Bush doctrine?
bananaphone @ 46:
This is the kind of drivel they teach you to write in college? I call bullshit: I graduated from college, young man, and the establishments I received my degrees and credentials from expected a higher burden of proof and coherency than you've just demonstrated. They also expected basic grammar. You are no college student.
Someone have a bridge we can stuff this troll under? It's not even worth our time to refute this liar's lunatic rantings.
Sir I am in college at a state accredited university in Oklahoma. As I write this I am also attempting to write a sociology paper which is due in the a.m. You may have graduated from college I dont doubt this. Though i am not seeing perfect grammer from you either. I was not aware they were inspecting this blog for perfect grammer? The bottom line is we will see another Republican President after the november election. If the democrats had picked a candidate that was more in the middle of the road instead of so far left I may have considered voting democrat, though they did not. I do not wish to offend you but I cannot bring myself to vote for a candidate I feel would bring the downfall of a nation.
The 'downfall of our nation' has already happend thanks to Bush & Cheney & company.
BTW - grammar, not grammer.
I can't stand this guy either but wait a minute. That point was glossed over so professionaly by McCain. He got away from talking about not convincing enough republicans (like 145 of them) to highlighting the 93 Democrats who didn't vote for the Bill and the importance of cutting taxes so people can keep their jobs. He is amazing for getting of a track he doesn't want to be on.
wjacobw11 @ 49:
Sir I am in college at a state accredited university in Oklahoma. As I write this I am also attempting to write a sociology paper which is due in the a.m. You may have graduated from college I dont doubt this. Though i am not seeing perfect grammer from you either. I was not aware they were inspecting this blog for perfect grammer? The bottom line is we will see another Republican President after the november election. If the democrats had picked a candidate that was more in the middle of the road instead of so far left I may have considered voting democrat, though they did not. I do not wish to offend you but I cannot bring myself to vote for a candidate I feel would bring the downfall of a nation.
Oral Roberts........anybody can get in with money and
the good book. NO comments about Palin raising taxes
on oil company profits....BUSH nation building,bailout
and deficit spending.......your honestly feel good about
mccain and palin these two barely graduated from college. hard work mccain has been in government
his entire life....so what.
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constituent @ 52:
Oral Roberts........anybody can get in with money and
the good book. NO comments about Palin raising taxes
on oil company profits....BUSH nation building,bailout
and deficit spending.......your honestly feel good about
mccain and palin these two barely graduated from college. hard work mccain has been in government
his entire life....so what.
John McCain may have barely graduated college but I'm not sure that graduating college was that big of a deal while he was getting tortured by the vietcong yet refusing to leave his men. He leads by example not what he learned at a University. I am not supportive of "on the job training" that will be neccesary for obama so that is what pushes me to vote conservative. Speaking of raising taxes has anyone watch Obama's interview with O'Riley talk about raising taxes anyone with any money wont have it for long if this man runs the country. Could Obama handle a 9/11 I think not!
wjacobw11 @ 54:
John McCain may have barely graduated college but I'm not sure that graduating college was that big of a deal while he was getting tortured by the vietcong yet refusing to leave his men. He leads by example not what he learned at a University. I am not supportive of "on the job training" that will be neccesary for obama so that is what pushes me to vote conservative. Speaking of raising taxes has anyone watch Obama's interview with O'Riley talk about raising taxes anyone with any money wont have it for long if this man runs the country. Could Obama handle a 9/11 I think not!
typical you don't respond to palin raising taxes. instead
answer a question witha question. when you have time
look into BUSH approval numbers. you obviously don't
know what you are talking about. enjoy the Oral Roberts kool-aid and whistling onward christian soldiers.
Not only is mcfeeble toast, his whole party is too.
wjawco11 wrote:
Though i am not seeing perfect grammer from you either.
--------------------------------
This poser can't even spell grammar, much less know what is perfect.
if mccain has all the answers why didn't he get elected
in 2000? instead republicans voted for BUSH. who
was a weak governor of texas.
NOW mccain all of a sudden has all the answers. when
you have time watch/read material put out by BUSH
about mccain.
Don't feed the trolls.
Dave
Viet Vet
wjacobw11 @ 35:
Unless you have a cerebral cortex. Did he confuse you by not talking to you like a six-year-old?
And if you delude yourself enough, you can use "right" to justify "wrong". Keep going, you're almost there.
Really? Let's see now...
"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
okayy... hmmm.... *searches* ...sorry, nothing in there about "pulling oneself up by boot straps", or "abortion" or "gay people" or "democracy at the point of a gun". Nothing even about christian values. The only references of a religious nature are "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States" and "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof".
In fact, it seems to actually be almost antithetical to the values you espouse.
Liberals are the reason a plebeian like you is even able to have a say in how your country is governed. Why not ask your friendly neighborhood Cherokee how well you freed your country? I'm sure he'll be really impressed with your sanctimonious posturing.
[This has strayed off topic, and the quotes are just bandwidth burners. You've made your points-Sitemonitor]
Dave @ 59:
I know, I know. It's just they're sort of like pets. Only less smart.
Loonie @ 61:
Yea, but then they shit all over the floor until their trained.
Dave
Viet Vet
Huh? "People need credit to make home loan payments"? That's a new one. I need credit to pay the credit already extended to me? Now there's a black hole if ever I saw one. This guy knows jack.
majicman @ 51:
I think McCain is trying to fillibuster his way through the campaign.
I'm seeing shit all over the floor here...
Dave
Viet Vet
Loonie @ 61:
I often wonder if the trolls are some sort of perverse attempt at a Turing test? They almost act like they're intelligent. They have a limited grasp of the right-wing talking points, almost repeating them mechanically. You know, with a bit of perl and some script you could probably replicate 99% of the typical troll speak. Not an original thought required. But then again, thinking isn't required in the Rethuglican party. In fact I'm pretty sure it can get you banned.
McPain/Quaylin hasn't just jumped the shark, they've strafed it as well.
ontheleftcoast @ 67: