CBS Poll: Bush hits all time low. Obama widens lead.
By John Amato Wednesday Oct 01, 2008 12:30pmCongress isn't doing very good either, but Broder's boy is at 22%
Overall, the president's approval rating has dropped five points from last week and is now the lowest of his presidency. Only 22 percent of Americans approve of the job he's doing, while 70 percent of Americans disapprove - a new high.
It's still way too early, but this is encouraging.
Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama leads GOP rival John McCain 49 percent to 40 percent among registered voters in a new CBS News poll. The nine-point spread marks an increase of four percentage points in Obama's lead from a CBS News/New York Times survey taken last week. Obama also leads by nine points among likely voters, 50 percent to 41 percent.
Here's all the latest polls. Obama is on an upswing, but still close.
And here's the latest on the battleground states.
The latest Quinnipiac polls show Obama crossing the 50 percent threshold in all three of those states:
Florida: 51 - 43
Ohio: 50 - 42
Pennsylvania: 54 - 39
I'd expect some wild stuff to come out of McCain's camp soon. That's after the Biden-Palin debate of course. I'd say moments after it ends.
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Who are these 22%?
The most religious western country.... finally seeing the light?
BennyP Says: Who are these 22%?
Inbreeders, Klan members, trailer park Republicans and everyone named Tucker.
Oh...and don't forget...the Bush family is a large clan.
Better get ready. The Mc Lame/MSM propaganda/lie machine will go into full tilt deception and dilution mode soon. Not that they aren't about 80% there now:
www.mediamatters.org
Pie eating contest? Nude pageant?
SNL hit the nail on the head with that bit. After the campaign 'suspension' last week, I was seriously asking myself: If McCain is gonna pull these kinds of high-risk stunts when he's down in the polls 5 weeks out, what's he going to do if he's still down with one week to go?
And half-seriously, I'd mused that: "I bet he'd pull down his pants and do an impression of the Saigon airlift with his dick if he thought it'd get him votes.."
It is not how many votes you get on November 4th, but how many the voting machines will count. We have known we have had this problem for over 4 years and still we use hackable machines to guide our future. We should go back to paper ballots and move the elections to take place for two days on a weekend.
What the *@#&^ is wrong with Florida?
43% for McPain?
*&@##'em
22%?
Are household pets and barn animals being included in the poll?
Alexdem @ 6:
I'd rather have a pie eating contest, please.
Liberal AND Proud @ 9:
Yes, they're voting Obama, 53% to 38%. (9% of sheep are undecided.)
Will that district in Ohio with 1500 voters, cast 15,000 votes for MCc@ain?
Northwest Washington @ 7:
I'm still waiting to see how many votes Rove and co will challenge and throw out like they did with the 3 million votes in 2004.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6757612420128645563&ei=ywflSI3AD...
This election could very well be stolen already.
Liberal AND Proud @ 9:
Spousal equivalents gotta vote too!
As much as this is heartening to see, we all know it won't matter.
As someone said earlier today on another thread: Diebold will correct and discrepencies.
ANY* discrepencies.
More coffee is needed.
Yes I know it's almost 2 in the afternoon. Shut up.
I am sure that this wouldn't happen if Obama gets elected but I'm really hoping for some war crime trials followed by long prison sentences.
Of course, THAT won't happen until we have to re-fight the civil war. South Carolina separatists of 1840's = Alaska separatists of the 2000's. "Two Americas" indeed...
Northwest Washington @ 7:
I've been saying the same thing for years now.
liberal traitor @ 16:
DieboldPremier Election Solutions.They tried to poll Cheney's popularity, but respondents kept heaving.
Overall, the president’s approval rating has dropped five points from last week and is now the lowest of his presidency. Only 22 percent of Americans approve of the job he’s doing, while 70 percent of Americans disapprove - a new high.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfsvE4j4ExA
I am one of the few people who has never visited the drudge site. I googled it and faeces sipped out from between the keys on my keyboard.
OK @ 8:
Floridians!!
thats whats wrong with FLA
geez what do you expect the biggest confederate flag being flown on the busiest highway
BennyP @ 1:
Drive to Farmington MO
Friday afternoon go to "Sticks and Steins" a local pool hall and pub. Only place in town that sells Guinness. Sitting around the
bar will be Union Pipe Fitters, Dry Wallers, Auto Zone sales clerks, a retired Army Captain, some farm hands and several parttime
methhead/stock car enthusiasts. These are the 22%. Racist, imperialist, self hating, swaggering fools who think God and the
Flag make the United States great.
On Sunday about 2 miles out of town on Highway H is the Abundant Life Tabernacle.
At about 1:20pm people will exit that building heading for Pizza Hut. Those people are the 22%. They are descendants of
New Deal Democrats and lead Miners and Farmers and Loggers. The mine closed years ago, and the other industry was Brown
Shoe Co. also long closed. But these people cling to an evangelical inspired faux conservatism and pray for the end of the world!
22% and proud!
the right-wing blogs are going NUTS over these latest polls.
They are attacking the very polls they touted as the Gospel just 3 weeks ago when McSame was slightly ahead.
Man, talk about desperation !
Like a cornered squirrel, they are now veeeeery dangerous.
Alexdem @ 6:
Oh boy, Puppetry of the Penis. Love it
i know what 'GOP' stands for and that identity has long history but it has been subtle move by Republicans
so NOT to be identified as Republicans.
my point is that GOP has been group tested vs. using
republican....the (R) party is so bad and because of
the bush disapproval numbers they are using GOP.
let's call them what they are REPUBLICANs
(from that CBS News piece)
... and here's the Preznit in debate from 2004:
So, you see he's just getting more and more successful ...
After the debate?
With the mccain campaign's track record, we'll likely see something negative any minute and it will relate to what palin said at the debate.
Yes I know the debate hasn't happened yet. But mccain won the last debate before the debate, according to his ad.
Liberal AND Proud @ 20:
8% ........ amongst REPUBLICANS!. ...... in WYOMING !!!
ouch.
23 surfdog,
Heh...think about what it must have been like BEFORE air conditioning was invented.
The media has portrayed Bush to be a much worse president than most realize.....do some research.
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It's really time to go on offense and drop the hammer. There's so much to nail McGramps and Moosegirl on. Veterans' benefits would be a good place so start.
Hussein...
Remember...Dick Cheney lost an election to a dead guy!
Liberal AND Proud @ 34:
So did Ashcroft.
It's still close enough to steal
And showing that fate is not without a sense of humor...Sarah Palin is running on a ticket WITH a dead guy. LOL!
earl @ 14:
Earl, do you mean barn animals with with spousal equivalant status or common law spouses? ;)
Obama's numbers are encouraging. But it's way too early to celebrate. Trust me, if Palin comes out tonight and doesn't completely fuck up, all we're going to hear is "Palin rebounds"...."The GOP is re-energized"...."Palin answers her critics."
Americans are idiots, so many will jump back on the Palin Express. This race will remain close...and November 4th will be a nail-biter.
I don't care what Congress has for a rating. Democrats have the house and senate. That is all I care about. I just want Obama in the White House...
with everyone hating him i wonder if dipshit dubya is suicidal these days
Ya know...ya almost want to feel bad for George Bush...uhhh...NAAAAAAAAH!
Frank Grzesik @ 32:
Did you know Moose Lady won the debate?
Oh, sorry...It hasn't started yet...
40 Shitt Romney,
Shitt....how can you spell your own name wrong...it's Shitt Onmey.
Shitt Romney @ 40:
No. He's oblivious. Malignant narcissists usually are.
BennyP @ 1:
recepients of the BUSH tax cuts. people that own companies/shareholders that do most of their business
exporting....BUSH has devalued the dollar so much
it's been great for foreign investors. personally i feel
they may have done this on purpose.
Liberal AND Proud @ 34:
The one in his man-sized office safe ?
The Truth Hurts @ 39:
And we will need truckloads of lawyers in every state of the union before, during and after the election.
Huge indicator of Obama's possible win: My state, North Carolina, is leaning to Obama.
i say use republican instead of GOP.
I want Obama to commit to negotiations with Iran. This past Sunday on Face The Nation Senator Obama said "Iran IS developing nuclear weapons" I was in shock and I still am. http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/ftn/main3460.shtml You can listen to Obama repeat a neo-con inaccurate an inflammatory statement about Iran. Bob Schieffer did not challenge this lie of Obama's and neither has the progressive blogosphere. Obama said "Iran IS developing nuclear weapons". This is a first for Obama, he usually refers to Iran in an accurate way. This is the language of the right wing radicals who lied us into Iraq they seem to be having some kind of an influence on Obama (Dennis Ross is on Obama's team)
Dennis Ross is not an honest and fair broker in the middle east he is an Israeli lobbyist. Obama needs to bring on Flynt Leverett or Norman Finkelstein as honest brokers in the middle east
http://www.washington-report.org/archives/july01/0107059.html
Folks these radical zealots are not giving up on striking Iran based on unsubstantiated claims.
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=13507
Iran: And the Beat Goes On
The beating of war drums, that is
by Justin Raimondo
In a last-ditch, all-out effort to pave the way for war with Iran, Israel's lobby in the U.S. has inaugurated a new front group: United Against Nuclear Iran (UANI). What, "another" neocon front group – why is this important? With Richard Holbrooke, Obama's most prominent foreign policy advisor – and a likely Secretary of State or National Security Advisor in the Obama administration – joining neocon nutcase James R. Woolsey in the top leadership of this new group, the signal is clear: UANI represents a bipartisan call for war.
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Amy Goodman has highly regarded journalist Robert Fisk on today as well as the renowned economist Joseph Stiglitz
http://www.democracynow.org/
Fisk has been named British Press Awards’ International Journalist of the Year seven times and is currently the Middle East correspondent for The Independent of London.
When Fisk is asked will Obama win the election Fisk says "he'll win the election for the Israeli knesset. I don't know if he is going to get the Presidency of the U.S. " This is a frightening statement coming out of Robert Fisk
I WANT OBAMA TO MAKE IT VERY VERY CLEAR THAT HE WILL NEGOTIATE WITH IRAN BASED ON SOLID INFORMATION. NOT SO CALLED INTELLIGENCE FROM THE THE ISRAELI LOBBY OR ISRAEL.
Scott Ritter has written about more false intelligence coming from Israel and has been demanding that the "smoking" laptop be thoroughly investigated
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/07/29/10681
Dale @ 49:
Obama keeps infiltrating the South deeper and deeper.
What next, Georgia ? Alabama ? Missifrigginssippi !!!!??
Dare we say UTAH ?
that's still way too fucking high.
22%??? must be a 21 point error in that. must be barney.....
jimbo92107 @ 43:
Did you know responses are limited to 90 seconds?
90 seconds! ...
Debate?... Soundbite factoryC. Hussein Jr. @ 52:
that speaks VOLUMES as to just how truly awful Bush and McCain are.
BennyP @ 1:
22% are either braindead or sarcastic.
I have a feeling this years October Surprise isn't going to be Pumpkin Pie.
Look for the frantic right wing-nuts to pull off some act of violence against the public in a desperate try for the fear card.
They will also be sniveling about Sarah being Gang-Banged by the "Liberal" media (we call it truth in here). They will also pull Bill Clinton into the fray by saying "He Started it"! like they are always doing. You know, this economy cant be this administrations fault can it?
They will never utter the words "They made a big mistake on going into Iraq" These people have never admitted any mistakes so far and they have made hundreds.
Liberal AND Proud @ 3:
Sorry to say there's still a shit load of them here in Utah.
As the saying goes, all the knowledge in the world is of no use to fools.
I really wonder what made 5% of the country turn against him this last week, if they had been with him up until now, through everything else.
There has to be a percentage of the population that will be happy with the job he's is doing no matter what. I guess that percentage just wasn't 27%, and hopefully it isn't 22% either.
It is far too early to say anything because the polls will continue to swing wildly because of the debates...
But look at Politico's swing state map...
With 270 needed to win...
Obama 353
McPain 185
http://www.politico.com/convention/swingstate.html
What time is the debate errr, uh ... Sound-Byte seconds going to be on or streamed.
The Truth Hurts @ 39:
This is no joke. In fact, I will go so far as to say that unless she does at least 2-3 of her rambling non-answers, they will be doing this.
Or, knowing McCain, several hours before the debate...
This is good news, of course, but at the same time it's ludicrous that it took the threat of a complete economic collapse to get people to realize that voting Republican is akin to playing Russian Roulette with your future with 5 out of 6 chambers loaded.
What the heck is wrong with the Democratic message machine? Why do they keep dancing around engaging in these gentlemanly bouts of verbal savate, when the Republican jugular is exposed and actively bleeding?!
The Obama campaign can no longer let this election be a referendum on his level of experience. He has got to make this a referendum on the entire Republican train wreck of savagely unfair economic philosophies and extremist pandering. And he's got to make McCain lie down in the bed the Republicans have made, and not tolerate any more easily disproved attempts to get out of it.
I mean c'mon, the message should be clear - if you're not a Fortune 500 executive or are actively preparing for the Rapture, the Republican party does not represent your values and isn't interested in doing anything for you.
The Truth Hurts @ 39:
Eh, a "not a total fuck-up" performance might keep some Palin-heads from jumping off the train, but she's going to have to do a lot better than that to get anyone to jump back on.
Earl, LOLOL!...that woman can't give her name, address and phone number in 90 seconds.
Governor Palin...with the passing of the Wall Street rescue the hope is that it will revive our economy. Given your conservative credentials...would you have voted for this plan?
"umm...well....it's important to remain strong as a nation...to hold back the terrorists...because if we don't....because they hate our freedoms...they will try in every way to damage our economy....which would be bad for the American people...and its important that our economy remain strong...to assist those in need of healthcare...which is very important...its one of my biggest concerns....and Sen. McCain's...who also believes in the good of America....and who would know better than him....he is an American hero...who suffered terribly on behalf of our country...so he knows all about suffering...and he and both fell the suffering of the American people...so we need to cut taxes and spending...while remaining strong...Thank you."
Just check Palin for a wire prior to the debate and I'll at least be satisfied that kind of BS isn't happening....
Uh, the last two elections were stolen. Why does everyone keep ignoring this little fact?
It's about to get ugly, people. I mean real ooogly. McCain, Rove, Schmidt & Sons are about to give mud a very bad name. (Snow White whistling as I type) -- Nonetheless, I am sure Obama and his badass team are ready. I'm suddenly impressed with that David Axelrod, ultimate fighting guy; he manages to slip the O man out of every hold.
☺☻Bangkok Bob☻☺ @ 63:
8 PM Central Time.
Joementum @ 66:
I'm with Truth Hurts here. I so well remember the Iran-Contra hearings of the mid '80's when Ollie North was set to go in front of the senate hearings and everybody was expecting him to be crucified: But then the next day I recall shaking my head at the headline on USA Today that said "Ollie Fever!!" And the nation had fallen for him. The right kind of performance by Palin in the debate could do the same thing.
Her base already has "Sarah Fever" and it won't matter what she says or how she does to them...not one bit!
Since the polling industry has control over what is being actually reported; without oversight and audit; I doubt that 22% is actually the correct number.
These people who still "Approve" of the job Bush is doing must be getting something positive from the disaster that he has created.
Could they possibly be the one that profitted from these disasters?
If McCain and the Republicans take this election away from us, then perhaps these poll numbers will help people wake up at last and acknowledge that this country is teetering on being a very scary place to live, if it isn't already (and frankly, when I give enough thought, I get the chills about the direction we are heading). Of course, being aware and being able to do anything about it are two different things, but it would be a start. Let's just pray it doesn't get that far.
BennyP @ 1:
They're evidently using a diebold machine to take the poll.
KEEP hitting mccain/palin over the head about the economy. everyday the
economy again.....stupid.
early voting is going to be key this general election.
lost credibility + lost of trust = Lost of Confidence
Being in denial is a lost of time to fix the fundamental problem.
Without fixing the root causes, the "rescue" is a loss cause.
The "Trillions of dollar" would be better spent to rebuild rather than recuing the problem that CAUSED the unstoppable collapse.
Has the irresponsible, greedy individual NOT learn their lessons YET?
It will be a VALUABLE mistake that WE as PEOPLE must learn.
BennyP @ 1:
****************************************** The folks who like Seah Hannity
What, aren't there any "Palin Wins Debate!" graphics out there by now? The debate is less than eight hours away.
Liberal AND Proud @ 34:
Are you sure you haven't confused Dick Cheney with John Ashcroft? John Ashcroft ran for (R) Senator from Illinois, and one month before the elections, his opponent passed away. The dead candidate STILL won, by a landslide. That's when GW Bush hired him on as his Attorney General.
Anyway, polls really, REALLY do not matter! The number of voters that actually GO TO THE POLLS does not matter! The results of highly accurate EXIT POLLS (~+/-2%) does not matter! The ONLY THING that matters is WHO does the COUNTING of ballots, and HOW they do it.
The Bush Crime Family and the NeoCons in general seem to have the VOTE issue well in hand. Without a virtual army of international election observers to monitor the vote process all across this country, and without a similar army of unbiased or liberal USA lawyers also monitoring the upcoming elections, the odds are good that the results will be just as unsurprising as Zimbabwe's last election results. The chance of Obama actually winning the VOTE at the voting booth is somewhere between SLIM and NONE.
The American patriot must be prepared at all times to protect his country from his government. The English celebrate a failed revolt on 05 November, but the French celebrate a successful revolt on 14 July. Viva la France!
g. @ 78:
+ People how own yellow Hummer2s and are even now gleefully working the numbers to see how many foreclosed properties they can pick up, flip and get rich.
+ People with an irrational fear of muslins[sic]
+ People who think McCain looks like "a nice man"
+
+
+.....etc...
I smell a rat. If Booosh is polling so low as a republiCON, how is the race so narrow? Something is amiss here. Are we to believe that so many sheeple hate The Shrub but are head-over-heels about McFailin, CONservative republiCONS of the first order?
On election day never under estimate how stupid we are as a Nation. I'm not comfortable with the polls unless we are ahead 60% to 40%.
BennyP @ 1:
My husband heard a segment on NPR a year or so ago where a psychiatrist said one in five Americans was a sociapath. I think that's your answer.
*
What I expect to hear about Obama in the days coming up
1-He is a Muslim-We have proof
2-Michele Obama was a member of radical groups in the 1960's
3-His Children aren't his
4-We can prove he's a Muslim
5-Reverand Wright is the head of his Campaign
6-He's having an affair with Hilary Clinton
7-he's definitely a Muslim
and about 20 other sick and twisted Items-here they Come!!!
C. Hussein Jr. @ 25:
They are llike the bull in the ring just before the matador arrives; wounded, full of rage, with not a lot left to lose. You think they're nuts now? Just you wait.
David762,
yes...I screwed that one up big time. It was John Ashcroft.
As penance, I'm going to sentence myself to 3 readings of My Pet Goat and 3 online viewings of Condoleeza Rice testifying about the August PDB.
I haven't been on this site the last couple of weeks very much.
Have the trolls been active, or pretty subdued?
It'll turn out 51:49 for McCain.
The number are close enough for Diebold, caging, etc. to handle.
And the dems don't have enough dead people registered to vote in this election to overcome it.
This guy has so many albatrosses: Keating 5, deregulation in general, Iraq, "Bomb--bomb--bomb---bomb-bomb Iran", pathological lying, and Ms Palin.
I thought the 2k6 elections showed the populace was against the war. McCain wants *new* wars in addition to the two that are grinding our people and economy (sans War Profiteers) into the dust. Maybe he's looking to create a "Well, not enough men and conventional weapons to protect us... hows about a nuclear penis or two?"
2k6 also said that we were fed up with rethuglican corruption.
This guy wants to take these issues to new heights. And he's close in the polls? Even leading at times? WTF?!?!?!?
How can guy even place in the polls? His numbers should be so small that scientific notation is needed to show them, say 1.66054 x 10-24. I would say that's "in the noise."
Perhaps there will be a "surprise" between now and Nov to "justify" his hawkishness.
Or something before Obama's inauguration to allow Bush to exercise some of those extraordinary powers he's been collecting.
(I love posting when my medication wears off!)
E Pleb Neesta
GODISNOWHERE
If birth control --> promiscuity, then I submit that confession causes more people to sin. The ultimate get out of hell (almost) free card.
Liberal AND Proud @ 87:
Good GAWD that's harsh...just drink a few beers, say a few hail satans and be on your merry.
RobertD @ 11:
However, Obama's poll numbers are down among lipstick-wearing pigs, who reportedly resent being compared to Sarah Palin.
"liberalNmoderation Says: I haven’t been on this site the last couple of weeks very much.
Have the trolls been active, or pretty subdued?"
Lots of trollie type action. It's tough...they keep scaring the dinosaurs and the unicorns.
The Detroit Free Press and the Detroit News are both reporting that McLame is pulling his campaign efforts completely out of Michigan. Like giving up totally.
McCain just pulled out of Michigan. I'm so proud of my home state! Obama's ahead by 13... maybe McSame should pull out of PA too?
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/02/mccain_pulls_out_o...
Mock this woman at our peril...I think the polls are being pimped UPWARDS so that tomorrow's headlines and the weekend pundits can run with HUGE PALIN VICTORY IN DEBATE...game changer...the race TIGHTENS AGAIN!!! Watch and weep...and, I'm predicting this unless she falls down on her face and is unconscious...
Frank Grzesik @ 32:
Your herd is getting smaller by the day dude. It's hard to imagine how he could become worse but then he's always managed to come out with an even more foolish idea just when we think he's exhausted all the possibilities. I can only say that it speaks for the tolerance of Americans that he was allowed to fuck up completely for two terms instead of the usual one.
There is no telling what kind of bizarre shit the McCain campaign will be springing on the country in the next few weeks. McCain has already shown a penchant for craziness (suspending convention, choosing Palin, suspending campaign, etc.), but we can't forget that this isn't McCain alone.
Last week, the White House cooperated with McCain in setting up his ridiculous return to Washington to save the world gambit. Over the years Bush has demonstrated repeatedly that no one is more dishonest or manipulative and I've no doubt that he will gladly use whatever resources he has (up to and including things that result in death for American soldiers or foreign civilians) to assist McCain.
The term "October Surprise" may be replaced by "October Surprises" after these crooks get finished.
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