Will McCain hide Palin from the media for the rest of the race?
By SilentPatriot Thursday Oct 02, 2008 5:50pm
Part of Palin's closing argument last night, and the McCain campaign's incessant whining about her supposed unfair treatment, certainly signaled that.
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I like being able to answer these tough questions without the filter, even, of the mainstream media kind of telling viewers what they've just heard. I'd rather be able to just speak to the American people like we just did.
Team McCain was in full paranoia mode yesterday, going around and accusing CBS and Katie Couric of editing the Palin interview to make her look worse than she really was, a great feat if it were actually true. I think this frontal assault signals that McCain will relegate her to the right-wing talk show circuit for the rest of the race, hoping that her adequate performance last night (coupled with her fiery, condescending speech in Minneapolis-St.Paul) will be what voters remember about her.
If there's one thing we've learned about Governor Palin, it's that she can read a teleprompter and recall memorized taking points just fine. But when she's actually challenged to think on her feet (like in the Couric and Gibson interviews), she falters about as badly as a politican could falter.
While it may be a wise strategy for McCain to stash her away for for the next 32 days, it's transparently laughable to claim that somehow the traditional media "filter" is the problem here.
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He's putting 'er back in the Caribou Barbie box she came in.
Even the right-wing circuit is too much for her. When Hannity figured out that his softballs were too much for her he switched to T-ball, and she still swung and missed!
FREE SARAH PALIN!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/3/141928/447/232/619131
Set Sarah free!
by kos
Fri Oct 03, 2008 at 02:48:52 PM EDT
Sadly, No! makes a funny.
But let's run with it. The wingers think Palin was a smashing success because when you pulled the string in her back, she looked down at her cue cards and recited her talking points perfectly. Awesome! Of course, it's easy to avoid any deer-in-headlights moments when you ignore the questions you can't possibly answer, but let's give it to her.
Palin is totally awesome, an asset to the ticket, and really, really competent to be vice president.
So let her free. Take her out of Cheney's undisclosed location and let her campaign. Let her do media interviews. Let her do town hall meetings. Take her out of tightly-scripted environments, shed the McCain chaperon (which is a bit creepy and quite a bit sexist), and "let Palin be Palin".
I'm sure she'll just do great. Because really, all that Palin awesomeness shouldn't be limited to the single vice-presidential debate. It should be unleashed on the country! If not, Republicans will be deprived of a potent weapon in this final weeks of the campaign.
And yes, this is concern trolling. The only question is whether the McCain campaign is stupid enough to take this "advice", given facetiously by me, but in all seriousness by the deluded crazies in the wingnutosphere.
FREE SARAH
FREE SARAH
FREE SARAH
Of COURSE he will. She had 20 "not below average" minutes in the debate. The last 45 minutes she was totally out of her league. She couldn't answer the questions, acted like she didn't understand the questions, etc. She is stupid and yet thinks she is smart. The only question is . . . how many stupid votes will vote on election day. At least for now, it looks like not nearly enough which is a landslide for the Dems.
Neither candidates policies are going to matter now. The bailout law almost gaurentees a depression.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/14027.html
Chris Matthews just asked "who is running this country?" He basically said this place is so fucked up right now and who is steering the ship. He said and I had to laugh, he said this place could be like Zimbabwe. It made me laugh because Zimbabwe has 11,000,000% inflation right now. I kid you not. I heard it a couple days ago. 11,000,000%. LOL Can you even imagine? I can't.
I'd be glad if she disappeared into her hidey hole for good but it's probably best that the mass consumption population not be given a chance to forget the incredible incompetence and corruption this woman represents.
Do you suppose she'll hide after the election too? After all she's still got legal proceedings in progress against her. Where does the governorship of Alaska stand after the election? For that matter what's happening to it right now?
Perhaps they can simply declare her 'MIA' and appoint someone competent to clean up her mess?
It's possible that CBS edited Palin's interview. After all they edited together an interview with McCain a couple of months ago. Of course he doesn't complain when it works in his favor.
Team McCain was accusing CBS of editing the Palin interview to make her bad. CBS should respond to that accusation by putting up ALL the UNEDITED footage online.
CBS is being called dishonest. If I were CBS I would bite back. There is also an added benefit for CBS, they will get more traffic to their website.
Make sure the next debate is a _real debate; and not a scripted press conference. Ifill was afraid to follow up because the rethugs labeled her unfair PRE debate.
Alert C& L bloggers Matthews ripped up the carpet again tonight
Ew (emptywheel at firedoglake)/all you have to watch Chris Matthews Hardball tonight. He cut through the Palin bull. I swear he may have pullled some material off of your site EW. He said this is not a “game show, a quiz game, the Dating game”
In regard to Palin he said “where’s the intelligence, the thinking” Palin “recited answers off the shelf” Palin “more style than substance”.
Matthews also asked his guest “what did Palin say that a B plus college grad could not recite” after several weeks of training.
He really peered into her odd comments about the Vice President’s role. Matthews asked “what’s she talking about”
### The only thing that was way off was when he said that Palin answered “all” of the questions. That is total bull shit.
I for one, do hope they hide for the next 32 days. She is getting increasing annoying with that voice and that flirting MISS CONGENIALiTY act. She has no stand on issues just talking point attacks.
Sarah Palin has still not had a single press conference and probably will not have one at all. After the debate she granted an interview to Carl Cameron of Fox News - staying well within her comfort zone.
See the real Sarah Palin here, as she effectively announces that she's through with the media and will now talk directly to the American people through her filter of speech writers and teleprompters.
If she can't handle Katie Couric, then who does she think should interview her?
Rachel Fucking Ray?
Those nice folks at 'Extra?' Is she up to a hard hitting interview by a former 'Saved by the Bell' cast member? Maybe she'd prefer to be interviewed by the guy from Sugar Ray?
Josh @ 5:
And both idiots think they can play war games some more. The only real difference I see with an Obama administration is that he might actually enforce CAFE standards, everything else will go by the wayside due to no funds due to the current idiocy plus his own idiocy.
Capatain Bitter Elitist Kangaroo @ 6:
Matthews ripped up Palin tonight. Cut through her superficialities and let Americans know the Vice Presidential position is important especially with McCains age
Capatain Bitter Elitist Kangaroo @ 6:
I heard that the smallest bill was 1,000,000 dollors and if you didnt spend it today it may become worthless by tommorrow
It's more than absurd and insulting to go to an event called a "debate" and reject the terms/very idea of a debate. How can anyone take her seriously? If she wants to talk right to the American people, let her take out ads, give speeches, etc. But sorry, you don't get to do that in a debate!
God she is so similar to GWB it is uncanny. The inability to pronounce nuclear (new-clee-er), the arrogance, her over-estimation of her own abilities -- this is GWB in lipstick.
Yeah, I think that Sarah's 15 minutes of fame are just about up.
yes. done's ville. U betcha.
that's her other daughter's names, Ubetcha and Quinella.
joeedugan @ 13:
Ah, say it ain't so, Joe!
Bush got tons of mileage when he said "if I want to eat a burger I'm going to eat a burger there's nothing wrong with eating a burger" back in early 01.
Trumpets!
I think they'll hide her and complain about the liberal media every time one of them asks a question, just like they have with Cheney the last 8 years.
FG @ 17:
I've only been doing this for 5 weeks. smile... wave.... wink... act cute... walk down the runway in a bikini and high heels.
Massive voter purge by Republicans underway in nineteen states.
I'd put her out front.
She knows the camera.
She'll make mistakes, but she'll be a good attack dog.
Kathleen @ 10:
She did answer all the questions. The problem being that the answers had little to do with the questions. But, hey, she's so purdy.
shaggles @ 8:
Come back to the planet we're living on.
OK, let's just say it was edited, did you like the answers she gave? Or are you suggesting they paid Tina Fey to step in and act during the bad stuff?
Palin happily colludes in the media's need for popular culture kitsch spectacle by embracing what is essentially redneck culture, and at the same time gets to play the persecuted female to her constituency
If Palin will not face Chris Matthews how could she ever face Putin?
Good thing Sarah reads "every newspaper" because she said today that that's how she first heard mccain pulled out of Michigan. Must be nice to know you're merely window dressing.
Kathleen @ 31:
With a priddy smile and a winky-wink?
I hope they hide her. Listening to that screechy vapidity and watching the empty-cranium talking head -- wink, wink, perky, perky, perky, wink, wink -- make me sick to my stomach.
If fascism, incompetence, and lawlessness weren't enough to disqualify the Republican Party from any reasonable claim on political power, then surely the three stooges -- Bush, McCain, and Palin -- must be.
sooth Hussein sayer @ 32:
St. McCain only tells her to smile and wave to the camera when she is let outside.
Hey she's not an uppity liberal get it?
She shills for the richest 400 Americans who now have more money stashed away then the combined bottom 150 million Americans.
They need a "populist" able to speak the language of them folks "down there".
Sign here Jeeter, you're gonna flip it in a year and make a hundred K on this house trailer.
She's not funny anymore. Not only is she lacking in the knowledge it takes to lead, she was bad parent. Any honest person who had a daughter who got pregnant at 17 would consider him/herself a failure at parenting. The fact that she could not prevent her daughter making a bad decision is a serious flaw at her parenting skills. For a party and ticket that prides itself as holding a monopoly on character and family values, this should be the last nail in the coffin of this campaign. Instead, we're supposed to accept that she's just a normal 'hockey mom'. It's all crap. I'm tired of her. She should go away.
McCain has no choice, he has bring out and trot Sarah around. But no one is going to get to ask her any questions... there's simply no there there. And everyone with two or more braincells know it now. Yeah, so that excludes the wingnuts... they think she walks on water. So she'll just be red meat for the base. She'll bring in the crowds and the cash,but she not the game changer McCain needs, she just the delaying action while his brain trust thinks up another gimmick or two to try.
Thing is, I really don't think there is any gimmick left that won't backfire on McCain. But he's got nothing to lose, so he will try something, and it will cost him.
And I can now see this election in the O+10/375 EV range by 11/4. And hopefully Obama coattails will be long and wide.
Kathleen @ 31:
If they're not up to talking to our Spanish ALLIES, why would you ever think they'd talk to Putin?
Her problem is the non-filter. The less you filter her the less she seems to know and the less people like her.
Who on earth is she trying to kid? She doesn't have a clue how to answer a tough question with anything but the lamest platitudes. She lucky she hasn't run into Tim The Enchanter." What's your favorite color?" Green, no blue. Bye Bye Sarah.
For the remainder of the campaign she will appear frequently in front of the media but only on Fox. That way the McCain campaign can say she faced the media. But I think the American people in huge numbers will soon realize that this VP pick is a farce, and they will not be willing to put their future in the hands of this smarmy lady.
Palin the talking parrot... "Sqwaak - Palin want a cracker"
From the WiKi:
Talking birds have varying degrees of intelligence and communication capabilities: some, like the crow, a highly intelligent bird, are only able to mimic a few words and phrases, while some budgerigars have been observed to have a vocabulary of almost two thousand words. The Hill Myna is a commonly kept pet, well known for its talking ability – whilst its relative, the European Starling is also adept at imitating speech.
I said it a week after the RNC, when the media first noticed that Palin was being "sequestered". The Republicans are in a corner now. There is no way out. If they hide Palin, McCain is out front, exposed. He's toast. If Palin is out front, well, she can burn toast a lot faster than John McCain. It's over. It's done. We win.
Ultimate talking head. Have teleprompter, will star.
She doesn't like the "filter," but when she flubs a response to a constituent she calls it a "gotcha question." So basically any question she cannot answer is off limits. Which means, effectively, no questions.
Frankly, I thought the entire debate would have made better sense had it been part of Legally Blonde III, Elle Woods runs for VP. Never have I seen such a bizarre mix of Flo from Mel's Diner and a skit from Hee Haw. The only thing Sarah didn't do was crack her bubble gum. All of the rest was a nasty game of Ad-Libs and talking points.
If I were McCain, I would hide her too.
Will someone besides Jon Stewart play the footage of Palin whining on Faux about having to answer these oh-so-though questions from Couric (I mean - what newspapers and magazines do you read? How hard could that be to answer -- unless you don't read, which is something the American public needs to know!!). Then that someone should juxtapose that footage with the March footage of Palin criticizing Hillary for whining. Then Caribou Barbie will be shown again for the bubble-headed hypocrite unfit to hold public office that we all know she is.
I'd love to see her interviewed by Rachel Maddow.
While this was going on... They passed the bailout.
I can not find out if they removed those infamous 32 words,
(Section 8 of the original proposal) - Did they amend them, or
remove them, or just re-word them so they actually remained?
Anyone know? - If so, please give a link to that info?
Did anyone besides me notice she was reading her answers?
She kept looking down at the podium every few words. This is a real airhead she cannot give an honest answer to almost any question.
moniker@51 That's just cruel.
Funny though.
Palin really needs to hold a press conference. The Media should denounce her until she does. Even Quayle had a press conference!
You could damn near see the collagen running out of her fat assed lips. Gross.
shaggles @ 8:
Editing is what I do for a living.
When the candidate appears face-on, it's unedited. Edits are visible when there is a dissolve, a cut to b-roll (eg. Ahmadinejad at UN when talking about Iran), or a reversal (looking over Palin's shoulder at Couric).
There were most likely two cameras for the interview, with five angles shot:
1. Close-up on Sarah Palin.
2. Close-up on Katie Couric.
3. Medium angle over Couric's shoulder looking at Palin. (Can be shot after actual interview.)
4. Medium angle over Palin's shoulder looking at Couric. (Can be shot after actual interview.)
5. Wide angle showing Couric & Palin. (Can be shot after actual interview.)
james Ratliff @ 53:
She's simply not capable of thinking for herself. She and "Maverick McGramps" are both nothing more than meat puppets with someone else's hand jammed up their asses moving their mouths and telling them where to go.
Palin doesn't have that much going on upstairs, if elected to office she will be the most ditsy vice president since Dan Quayle.
I don't expect to see her on "Meet The Press" or "This Week" any time soon.
Yeah, I'm sure all the footage on the CBS cutting room floor shows Palin answering complex questions with complete authority and a dazzling display of policy awareness.
To be honest, I'd like them to play "Maverick" and buck the trend. Let Sarah free. Let her go on any talk show venue if only to solidify to everyone what a silly fool she is.
Katie Couric who exposed her inability for intellectualism on network television. In fact, it pulled the curtain away to see the woman behind it, in essence.
She should thank her witch-hunting pastor and her God that she wasn't on 60 Minutes. What if Mike Wallace got ahold of her?
That would have been must see television right there.
(I know he's retired, but his interviews were some of the most tension-filled I'd ever seen.)
sofla @ 61:
Lol. :)
james Ratliff @ 53:
I guess they forget to give her notes what Achilles heel means.
sofla @ 61:
It's likely the tapes are being kept for archival purposes (or, worse yet, an editor's blooper reel - the line, "I'll find some and get back to ya!" is pure gold).
Roger's has correctly deconstructed this pre-fab, overly structured, softball gabfest (no questions from the citizenry -- all questions from a representative of a special interest group, the media) when he noted that Palin tanks when there is a follow-up question for the simple reason that no one can be coached for those follow-up questions. Result? Contempt for the citizenry by removing herself from the public space. Classic Mussolinian, fascist tactic. She should be thrown to the wolves.
It looks from the state of play in the TrooperGate scandal in Alaska McCain may have to bail her and her spouse out of JAIL first..teehee...THEN they can put her back in her box..for good.
ABC and CBS did a lousy job "filtering" the stupid. They needed to turn it up to 11 to filter just some of it.
Slick Sarah @ 17:
100 percent inflation means you pay 2 dollars today to buy what 1 dollar bought last year (1+100%=1+100/100=1+1=2)
1100 percent inflation means you pay 12 dollars (1 +1100%=1+1100/100=1+11=12)
11 million percent inflation means you pay 110,001 dollars
That means you need $301.37 today to buy what $1 bought yesterday
That means a burger slinger's bi-weekly paycheck of $560 (based on $7/hr, close to the minimum wage) is worth a little under $2 the next day
That means a fat investment banker's bi-weekly paycheck of $5600 (based on a $70/hr wage) is worth a little under $20 the next day.
That's what 11 million percent inflation is. Imagine waking up to that.
StirFry @ 68:
We in the mainstream media have gotten so used to selling stupid to the American public that we thought that's what the GOP wanted ...
Palin cannot hide for 30+ days. Tine Fey (SNL) will do a spot-on Palin and doesn't have to do/say anything different than what actually happened (winking, "doncha knooow", shout-outs, etc.) and Palin will look silly. And if that is all we see of her, is a mimic of her, she will have to go on TV. Also, there will be more information about her life in Wasilla and AK which she will have to respond to.
Just guessing, she probably will not bow out, however, if something traumatic happens to her personal life where even Democrats agree she should want to bow out for, I wouldn't dismiss the possibility.
She will always have a warm cozy seat at Faux News.
Proud American Liberal @ 46:
Don't underestimate (or is that misunderestimate?) the stupidity of the American public. A great many are buying her "I'm just like you—so vote for me" line of bullshit.
Lisa D @ 2:
LOL!
She is an evil idiot, just like all the other sub-human neocons.
Narcissism - Individual expressions of grandiosity or arrogance vary with the person's value system. A person will generally attempt to display superiority as they define it.
* Overreacts to criticism becoming angry or humiliated [ "filtering MSM", blames media]
* Uses others to reach goals [sure there are examples]
* Exaggerates own importance [don't need to touch that]
* Entertains unrealistic fantasies about achievements, power, beauty, intelligence or romance [don't know her]
* Has unreasonable expectations of favorable treatment [entitlement, no need to be interviewed].
* Seeks constant attention and positive reinforcement from others
* Is easily jealous [maybe, but not all needed]
* Has a sense of entitlement [whoo boy!]
* Is exploitative of others [sounds like it]
*
Lacks empathy* Displays arrogant and proud behavior
* Displays haughty behavior
* Uses denial mechanism to downplay own inadequacies or failings [THERE ARE NONE!]
* Uses rationalization mechanism to justify self-centered behavior
Any thoughts?
Didn't mean to line out "* Lacks Empathy"
Just walking the dog @ 75:
Back under the cone of silence for Sarah Winkin
I still say, CBS, Katie Couric, PLEASE, just post the full, unedited video of the interview, start to finish, untouched, on the site streaming.
Then we can ask McCain how he explains Palin looking just as moronic without editing.
james Ratliff @ 53:
I wish I could give due credit, this chart explains Palin's performance and her reading of questions:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3091/2909496470_d751e8a3dc.jpg?v=0
The Truth Hurts @ 73:
It was painfully true that was the GOP strategy last night.
It takes a set of balls for a GOP candidate to fake outrage at the "greed" of Wallstreet as if it was news to her, and then pretend she is the champion of the common man.
In any other country, she would have been greeted with all sorts of vegetables by the people from the public who would have felt insulted by her clear faux populism. But not here, no sireee bob... idiots sat and nodded. We are truly fucked...
sofla @ 1:
that'd make her NIB in ebay-speak
McCain might be old but he's not senile.
He'll take the train wreck that didn't happen and be happy with it.
http://www.wilytrax.com
sarah palin is right. we need clarity and not a media filter channeling which responses will make it to the final cut. john mccain should demand cbs to post the interview in its entirety for the sake of fairness and balance. cbs and all of the other news agencies make me mad. i am going to have to write it off and send mccain and cbs each a letter demanding that cbs take action and correct the confusion this type of reporting always causes and let sarah palin speak for herself without the filters.
Not only will we not see her interviewed other than by certified wingnuts, she will also never be in a public space (like ordering a philly cheesesteak) where a random citizen might have the chance to ask her a question. Won't happen. Only in what are effectively infomercials on FOX or wingnut radio or maybe Glenn Beck.
Failin' Palin campaign's ailin'. Thankfully she and senior citizen McCain will go back in the woodwork soon. One thing, I can't wait for the Troopergate court case that is continuing.
If they hide her, will they hide WcCain also, would be a strange campaign.
Newsflash!
Sarah Palin has learned the names of a few magazines and newspapers.
You never know what a snake will do when cornered....
SMART GLASSES.... an affect ruined when she opens her mouth....
BY GOING BACK TO ALASKA, SARAH CAN increase the IQ of both Washington and Alaska
I may disagree with everything Sarah Palin stands for, but I insist on her right to express her opinions in public. What better way to assess her qualifications for the VP role?
As Americans, we like to brag about how we enjoy the blessings of liberty in America, and one of the most important of those liberties is free speech. For Republicans to hide Palin is not only cowardly, it is insulting to Palin's status as a female politician and deeply irresponsible to the American people.
Josh @ 5:
not to mention your state taxes are going to go up , your city taxes will go up, your property taxes taxes on your cars trucks , sewer water ,gas and electric bills say! sounds like your fuckled!
McCain doesn't have to hide her. He just has to keep her from debating Joe Biden again. Oh, wait--that was the only time they were going to, wasn't it.....?
No.
I'm paraphrasing Biden's best debate answer EVER, but seriously: Palin's gonna be out there a lot more, b/c truth be told, more people want to vote for her than they do McCain.
Palin needs ti hide McCain from the media for the rest of the race.
It's obvious from listening to or reading many of the pundits in this country that they think the debates were designed to be entertainment -- not even infotainment, since no one could possibly have gotten any usable information from Palin.
Listening to men fawn over Palin's looks and perkiness makes me wonder if they were all too busy fantasizing about what they want to do to her, to understand what she will do to us if she's ever elected to national office.
If the American people show the tiny shred of sense they need to reject Johnny Drama and the Queen of Dogpatch Kitsch, I expect things to ultimately go sour for Sarah in Alaska. Should the American people elect McCain/Palin, I expect theirs to be an even more disastrous tenure than the Bush years.
I don't think McCain will hide Palin, because that stupid, corrupt son of a bitch has nothing else going for him. But I don't think they'll ever let anyone ask her a straight question again (Note: nothing from Fox can be considered straight).
Every time I think the this can't get any dummer, someone comes along and lowers the bar, to refer to anyone as corrupt when you support the Chi-town flash. But in Obama's defense he did spend the week watching polls from under a rock
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger,
more complex, and more violent.
It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage
-- to move in the opposite direction."
~Einstein ~
The Opposite Direction is Liberal -
After all - all you Neocon Republicans - if it was not for Liberals - you would not have weekends off - you would not have sick days at work, you would not have vacations, you would be working in labor camps like people did at the beginning of the Industrial Revolution - These are the FACTS - Cause you can bet your ARSE that the heads of Corporate America voted against all the Freedoms and liberties you have today!
Republicans are such Lemmings - blind - brainwashed - Lemmings - OOOO, look - is that a Cliff? Lets go swimming eh. It's only a small jump.
Fools
I tried in 1999 to warn people about voting for a killer: Bush of Texas.
Look at how many people have died because of him since he was put in office.
Sarah Palin is also a KILLER. She is awash in blood and has no respect for the planet or for life of any kind.
If her ticket is (s)elected she will most probably gain the seat in question for at least 3 of the 4 years of the term. Just how many more people have to die this time before America wakes up and says "Hell No! We don't want any more killers in office!"
Please for the sake of the nation. Never EVER vote for killers.
Go home and take care of your baby!!!
Sarah Palin,
I like it when you speak directly to we, the unwashed masses, too. It gives us a chance to see, without filters, just exactly how shallow, manipulative, artificial, maladjusted, pathologically dishonest and mind-numbingly dimwitted you are. I've got news for you, Sarah, those filters you seem to dislike make you look better than you are, not worse. I especially wanted to compliment you on your cutesy, air-headed, "Yoohoo, Sailorboy..."-winking, back-alley prostitute imitation that you do so well. In a way those filtered interviews just never can, you showed us all us what you are best qualified and suited to do in life. You presented yourself at your most fetching, Sarah-just-being-Sarah best! You were just adorable, especially with that nasal little girl's voice you have perfected. I pisses me off to think that those mean-spirited news people have been filtering that out. The nerve of some people! You just stick to our guns, Sarah, and trust that we Americans will be able to know you as, and for what, you really are.
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