Franklin Graham Still Not Sure If President Obama is a Christian
When last we saw Franklin Graham on the teevee, he was dabbling in birtherism and sowing doubt that the President of the United States is a Christian.
Well, he was at it again on Tuesday's Morning Joe -- playing the same little McCarthyist game with Obama's Christianity as Republicans did with birtherism. "Well, he says he's a Christian, so I accept that, but..."
Graham also refused to say "categorically" that Obama wasn't a Muslim, because, according to Graham, "Sharia Law" says Obama's a Muslim and, also, the President's "seems more concerned about" Muslims than Christians---somehow.
The panel, who let Graham spew way too much garbage over the course of the segment, finally let him have it at the end. The best moment is when Willie Geist asked Graham if he thought Rick Santorum is a Christian. No surprises: Graham didn't equivocate at all -- and exposed himself as the pathetic partisan hack he is.
Another bonus at the end: Graham wouldn't say that Mitt Romney's is Christian because, Graham said, he's a Mormon and "most Christians don't consider Mormons Christians."
Lovely man.
Get religion OUT of politics!
C'mon liberals, stop playing the games republicans lay out for us!
A 30 SECOND COMMERICIAL before I can see the clip?
they only way I will know if this guy is wearing a toupee is if I ask him myself. I think he might be a SECRET BALDER!
... and Obama is gonna make us teach evolution in Sunday school.
If Joe had been sitting there he would have made sure this clown had minimum pushback.
Wall Street is just a parasite on the actual labor and investments of average Americans.
Banks play with futures, debt paper, complex financial instruments, and other peoples incomes.
Sell 'em short & help 'em crash - Tear 'em apart & sell the pieces
That is something you'll have to take up with MSNBC. It's their embed, and other than making it magically appear here through the miracle of coding, we have no control over it.
more clear about the source and packaging.
I went to the msnbc site to watch the clip and they had the same commercial. irritating, but I know it's not your fault.
ya gotta be careful when you hold up a protest sign....lol
you can draw heat for an unintended or unclear meaning... or get some allies that you didn't know existed. remember the 'FREE HAT' rally on south park.
peace...
Wall Street is just a parasite on the actual labor and investments of average Americans.
Banks play with futures, debt paper, complex financial instruments, and other peoples incomes.
Sell 'em short & help 'em crash - Tear 'em apart & sell the pieces
Try ABP. Works for me. No ad for me.
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Not sure if it's firefox only. Can't be arsed to look it up. :p
Edit: looks like there's a chrome version as well.
Bite my shiny metal ass.
http://www.startalkradio.net/
and IE 8 and love it.
"that's the secret password that we use down at the club"
with those 30 sec ads now. Youtube's running 'em too. I'm hoping some industrious programmer is working out a way to jump 'em or mute the first 30sec of the clip.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
I just mute them myself and go do something else for 30 seconds. On the web, that's not hard.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
I have no idea what products are being hustled. I just hope the advertisers don't care that I don't care.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
I just pretend it's buffering. For 30 seconds, like in the old days.
me-oww!
I'm certain Graham isn't.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
...is not REALLY a North Carolinian.
"Most Christians don't believe Mormons are Christians"
Where I come from, Christians are not qualified to determine who is a Christian - that's up to God the Father.
So, piss off, Franklin - go and ask for your earthly father's forgiveness.
That's the only true comment Jr said. Most Christians do not believe Mormonism is Christianity. Yet another class of people for Christians to hate.
is intended to be a factual statement
I don't know why Franklin Graham goes on T.V. thinking he is doing anything. People like my mother for instance, don't spend the time of day worrying about what he says. It only makes him look bad in the eyes of people who think that that issue (President Obama's religion) should be done and over with.
Frothy the Taliban and serial cheating three time loser Newt are Christian, but certainly not Obama.
I wish these fucks would just stop the bullshit and call the President a N#*%*r.
I am sure the pampered ass of Franklin has nary a wrinkle.
I am also certain it is so tight a cross would not fit without a frothy mix of some sort.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
Well, he was able to get his head up there with no problem so a cross just might fit.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
The blow dried look is only for television.
Besides, crucifixes have stationary arms. Franklin, like his Daddy, know how to wiggle his ears.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
I stand corrected. I also sit corrected.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Graham is a scat muncher. I wish he would be called out more and highlighted less in this society.
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
an old bigoted White man with money and a flock of sheep.
me-oww!
end the wars, not start another one, extend unemployment so people can feed their families - what Christian would do that?
I bet all this religion talk lately IS making Romney nervous.
Let the Republicans go at this AGAIN. It worked so well in 2008.
I've seen some stuff, man. And some thangs...
Well, Romney loves cars and lakes and he thinks trees in Michigan are the right height plus he likes to recite the lyrics to patriotic songs, so that might get him a little slack with the Christians.
/snark, kind of/
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
only to increase the jolt when it is removed from the rope.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
I was not aware of that.
It's kind of funny, Mitt has nothing to say so he just recites songs or sings them to fill time. Santorum talks all the time and allows whatever word his brain hands him to become a part of this speech. Newt waits until everyone else stops talking and then yanks some sort of freaky wisdom right out of his ass and proceeds with mindless oration.
What a crew! Then we get to hear what another mindless religious famatic thinks about Obama's religion. Who died and made Franklin the religious judge?
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
and Newt resigned because of his ethics violations and IRS investigation.
"What a crew!" is right.
then you look at the starting field... bwahaha
I still haven't figured out the real reasons why several more viable GOoPers decided not to run?
and when I say 'viable' I mean less baggage.
Wall Street is just a parasite on the actual labor and investments of average Americans.
Banks play with futures, debt paper, complex financial instruments, and other peoples incomes.
Sell 'em short & help 'em crash - Tear 'em apart & sell the pieces
That's easy. Jesus.
I saw this segment this morning and I thought the group there did pretty good in asking the right questions. They caused Graham to show his true colors and they weren't pretty colors.
Why didn't he just indorse Santorum and get it over with. He kept saying that he, Graham, had confessed his sins and god had forgiven him. So he put himself above everyone else they were talking about. How the hell does he know that his god has forgiven him. I want to see his proof and I do mean the long form.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
is the belief that God will forgive you for anything you do, and never forgive anyone else for the things you accuse them of doing.
Might not be exactly what's written down, but it's way more satisfying to believe everyone else is gonna fry in hell, am I right?
How convenient. Confess your sins, assume that god forgives you and you are good to go until you sin again. When you get your forgiveness card punched ten times do you get a free sin?
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Equally convenient for Graham to claim without commentary Gingrich's and Santorum's assertions that they're in the fold...
The scary guy in Washington with the funny name must be special... he gets the addition... "Yes, but..."
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
There is one unforgivable sin in christainity and that is blasphemy or denying the existence of god. Pretty stupid, if you consider that everything else is forgivable, like murder, etc.
Oh, and by the way, I deny the existence of god.
Ha ha!
Religion will be the downfall of Humanity.
Why would he endorse Santorum. Remember, Santorum isn't a Christian. He is Roman Catholic. So is Newt for that matter. Christian value voters must be looking round and wondering if maybe perhaps they oughta be voting for that nice negro fellow this time.
with a head of fake hair.
It's time for Frankie to start paying taxes. Who does he think he is; a Bishop?
I can't say Mr. Graham isn't a pedophile. He would probably say he's not a pedophile, but...
Nobody has proved it...yet.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
And, don't you think it's curious he hasn't shown up here to answer for himself?
Not accusing... just asking questions...
Just sayin'...
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
Very curious indeed! And of course even if he does and tells us he's not... well we don't really know how he defines pedophile do we?
I wonder why he hasn't? After all, if he's got nothing to hide...
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
We don't HAVE Sharia law in the USA, do we? So whatever it may say about a person's "belongingness" is pointless. Kinda like Mormons baptizing Jews--no effect at all on reality.
Oh, we will... at least what the wingers think Sharia law is... it'll just have a different name...
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
If he's some religion by no doing of his own, does that really count? If so, the Mormon's evil plan becomes fiendishly clear. Also, we should check to make sure Franklin's father isn't Mormon-in-absentia! He could be a Secret Mormon®, we'll need to be seeing his papers.
It is much more important that someone is a good person and competent for their job than what religion they are..... who cares.... these right wing nutcases are really lost in another world...... trying to send the US back to the middle ages...
WHEN, Lord? WHEN are these FUCKING MORONS going to SHUT THE FUCK UP already???
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
That's a good question. I think it will start when media outlets like MSNBC stop giving them a megaphone and a soap box.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
I think by having him on msnbc this morning they exposed him for what he really is.
The right wingers aren't watching that channel in the morning, they are watching Fox and Friends and hearing about a word being misspelled on one of the vice president's releases. They go for the totally who cares news over there.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
that he was missing some pages from his bible (paraphrasing). I thought they did a better job than normal exposing this fraud. Also I remember the term double standard was used to (one of his) face(s). All in all, it turned out well. They also called him in not saying "President" O.
"I've never pictured Hell as a place of fire, sulfur and demons with pitchforks, I've always imagined it as a place of excess and broken dreams and hopes."
"I think by having him on msnbc this morning they exposed him for what he really is."
Either that, or they'll be offering him a job. They just got rid of one ridiculous bigot, after all. They'll have to find someone to fill the gap.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
the fucking media keep putting mics.
Some stuff you can't make up!
Which showed when a person is presented with facts that go against their belief system they will reject those facts.
Alex Wagner presented plenty of facts when it comes to the President and what he has done about the Sudan situation.
Mr. hair piece immediately rejects those facts. Because they don't jive with the belief he already has in his bubble ass head.
This is what we are dealing with when it comes to the Republican party.
Insanity.
Frankie Grahamcracker is a piss-soaked, shit-stained, vomit-breath, diaper-chomping, knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing, snot-nose, shit-eating, drooling, half-zygote, wooden cross-sucking, Jesusmongering, BuyBull-thumping, worthless, sub-human, godless, bucket of pig snot.
I hope I'm being clear about this....
Reader, suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.
Okay, tell us how you really feel and don't hold back this time.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Now there's a mature exposition of opinion.
Now what are your thoughts on yaoi?
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
I have no problems with yaoi.
BTW, my comment is a lot more mature and intelligent than a fake ass Christian pos claiming to know who the true Christians are. Franklin can lick my ass through a bar straw.
Reader, suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.
CATSH MY BREATH, DAMMIT
Some stuff you can't make up!
IT'S BEFCAIUSE i CAN'TY SROPP LAUGHINCFG
Some stuff you can't make up!
Well, I have news for Franklin Graham.
God vomits when He thinks on that ChristoCreep.
Ignorance is parent to religion.
Religion is parent to Hate.
Remembering Matthew Shepard:
http://vimeo.com/fuksnickityClam/matthew
...
Frank Graham is free to keep religion out of politics.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Franklin claims to be a Christian too. I, however don't accept that, because I'm not trying to bullshit anyone.
me-oww!
Religious elitism at its finest
Who said that?God,sounds *so* familiar..can't quite put my finger on it..who said it?Oh yeah,it's that Jewish peacnik carpenter Franklin claims to follow.
For in the manner ye judge, ye shall be judged...
Takes the Holy Carpenter's statement and slaps ol' Frankie in the face...
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
Unfortunately, that quote never works on them because they then counter with, "Fine! God will judge that I'm RIGHT!"
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
It's my belief there will be plenty of surprises in store...
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
For some reason, the first image which came to mind when I read that was of Paul The Sax Guy slapping Franklin on the side of the head with a huge fish in the manner of John Cleese and Michael Palin in the immortal "Fish-Slapping Dance". (Actually, now that I think about it, that might not be such a bad idea...)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhJQp-q1Y1s
I think that means I've consumed enough recreational liquids for one night...!
Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.
The mere fact that I saw exactly what you referenced indicates... well, my wife's a public school teacher so I won't say the particular recreational substance...
*chuckle*
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
His self righteous holiness also completely ignores that fact that Allah is just another name for the same god that he worships also too.
Speak with an Iraqi or Syrian Eastern Orthodox Christian sometime, and see what the name for God is in their editions of scripture...
Yep...
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
Want to freak out a Bible-thumpin, Southern Evangelical Christian nut-job? Take them to Israel where they can meet Coptic Christians.
I don't believe in God. Teach a man to be a good citizen and you have solved the problem of life.
-Andrew Carnegie
Both were philanthropic,both came from humble beginnings..both even had alot of neat things to say..I respect them.Some of their fan clubs scare the shit out of me.
would you like to share some other gems from the mouth of Elvis.
Biblical proof Jesus liked peanut butter and banana sandwiches or died on a crapper instead of a cross may be substituted should you have such.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
Ricky, just a comment... I was hoping this wasn't going to degenerate into a contest over whose god has the bigger dick or tits...
Please don't turn in into one... you're better than that.
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
Or whose is the most or least plausible ontological framework...
Just sayin'...
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
You can't expect much in the way of restraint or civility when it comes to religion here.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
Theists jump on non-theists, non-theists jump back... each side considering their position so correct that the other side is deluded at best...
Must be nice for folks on either side to have such certainty....
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
you found a way to feel morally superior to both though.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
Was that what I said? Don't find those words in anything I said... little odd that you would read it that way...
No better, nor no worse than anyone else... just not one to make presumptious claims for or against anything without evidence...
Never fails, though, threads like this tend to piss off people that are usually otherwise allies.
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
Think, though, that you would say this to me kinda proves Excelsior's point.
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
your projection going out of its way to prove my point ;-)
Hint: you seem a bit too "certain" on what it is that I said, when I didn't.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
A good joke?
Bite my shiny metal ass.
http://www.startalkradio.net/
Could use one... projection... hoo boy... back to Flashpoint for me....
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
let me help you.
Or you can continue proving the point, whichever. Hey, it's a free country...
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
That link opened up an xml error page... are you saying that is me? or is there another link... just asking, and really don't feel like arguing the point with you...
I've merely stated here that theists and atheists tend to diss each other, no matter whatever else they may agree on... and this observation has morphed into something I really don't think I said... and that you would apparently zing me for the observation said to me this was a time when an atheist is zinging a theist...
So is this projection? Or some sort of moral superiority? Enlighten me.
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
here
I was simply pointing out that when you make that false equivalence between theists and atheists, you're ironically guilty of that which you're projecting onto others.
It was a simple joke, and you took slightly personally. Which further proved the point about "certainty."
what I am trying to say is that we all suck in some way or another. But the level of suckage between atheists and theists is not the same. Because, among other things, this thread was not originated because some atheist said something ridiculous about President Obama, was it?
Better now?
In any case debates between religious people and atheists are usually bound to lead to animosity among both sides. And that is OK. Diversity is the spice of life.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
seems to want a religious test for the presidency.
I'd go further and say he flat-out wants a fascist Christian theocracy.
They prepare for the next war by studying how they fought the last?
Anybody bother to tell Rev. Frankie about the 2008 results?
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
torture, kill and "disappear" as many muslims as you like, just don't mess with the christians, and for heavens sake, make sure that you are a friend of israel
He says that like it's a bad thing.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
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Ignorance is parent to religion.
Religion is parent to Hate.
Remembering Matthew Shepard:
http://vimeo.com/fuksnickityClam/matthew
WHEN is someone in the mainstream media finally going to remind (or more likely inform) one of these ignoramuses that the question of whether Obama is or is not a Christian is a moot point...because Article VI of the Constitution specifically states that religion cannot be used as a factor in determining someone's qualifications for public office?
(*Sigh*...never, that's when.)
Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.
someone called obama a muslim, he had reminded people that his faith was irrelevant to his fitness for office, rather than just trotting out his christian credentials
Wonderful film. In it, Joan Allen's character goes through all kinds of embarrassing hell because she refuses to answer a question about her past. When the President finally gets her to talk to him about why, she says, "Because answering would have implied that it was alright to ask the question."
A President who really cared about the Constitution would have said that, and nothing more.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
Yes, but he would be screwed anyway. They would've hit him with the Joe McCarthy-style "what do you have to hide" BS.
I don't believe in God. Teach a man to be a good citizen and you have solved the problem of life.
-Andrew Carnegie
interest in getting elected ahead of what is right for the country? he should, in the face of bigotry, throw muslims under the bus, by essentially saying "muslim, me? ew, no way! i'm christian, so i'm a-okay to be the president!"
or candidate obama might have said instead: "american values are not christian or muslim or jewish or buddhist or hindu, and while i myself follow the christian faith, i seek to represent all americans, regardless of their faith, and i reject the notion that any candidate would be less qualified to be president if he or she practiced a faith other than the christian faith"
What is wrong with these people that they can't show ANY respect toward ANYONE who they perceive as NOT worshiping their god hard enough? Seriously? Do they not even realize what a bunch of petty ASSHOLES they are? Do they just not care? Do we REALLY have to share a country with these people anymore? They obviously have NO idea how a free society works, and it seems they won't be satisfied until every single person in America is forced by law to obey biblical law, whether you want to or not. They are fascists, and they need to be put in their place, forcibly...NOW...before they do some REAL damage.
claims to be knowledgeable re christianity, he doesn't seem to be up on the parts of the bible that admonish "judge not, and you shall not be judged: condemn not, and you shall not be condemned: forgive, and you shall be forgiven"
They are simply following the tenets of their particular version of Christianity. To wit: anyone who is not a member of my little sect is a worthless waste of matter and does not DESERVE any respect.
I'm not sure where they got that notion - certainly not from their supposed savior - but that's it in a nutshell.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
The man looks like he has a flounder on his head.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
And a famous name for a dad... and proof that he isn't fit to tie his dad's shoelaces...
(though I think he's wearing scuffs and a bathrobe these days)
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
why the hell is it that conservatives talk and talk and talk about Jesus but it's the liberals who actually act like Jesus?
Because the Devil is the king of con artists.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
I am seriously getting VERY sick of these people. VERY sick of them.
It like watching the Nazis parade through your neighborhood everyday.
I don't believe in God. Teach a man to be a good citizen and you have solved the problem of life.
-Andrew Carnegie
..
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
has replaced the Hitler mustache- and jaunty jack boots, as today's Christ-o-fascist fashion statement.
The sweater vest is also a unisex garment- whereas the Hitler mustache was worn primarily by males with the exception of a few women with exceptionally large testosterone excretions...Liz Trotta comes to mind.
First they ignore us..then they ridicule us..now they are feeding us chicken crap- sign my petition:
http://www.change.org/petitions/fda-stop-feed...
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He's nothing but a hood ornament. They don't really revere him at all. They just like the power his NAME gives them.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
It is question of perspective and definition really. In Graham's mind to be a Christian is to be a smug, grinning self righteous judgmental asshole. Graham hasn't figured out that vanity is a sin. Also. that he is NOT a Christian.
You covered it all. What a self-righteous, judgmental, money sucking asshold.
The good life is a day at the beach.
Pres. Obama does appear to be very concerned about Muslims.
What with all the drone attacks and Seal Team 6 raids he's sent their way.
The last time I looked at the Constitution:
The No Religious Test Clause of the United States Constitution is found in Article VI, paragraph 3, and states that:
The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.
Why is anyone even talking about this????
Just QUESTIONING Obama's religion or Romney's religion or anyone else in office or running for office VIOLATES THE CONSTITUTION!!!!
AlwaysADem
Why aren't the poor excuses for journalism we call the MSM mentioning the clause? If they did, it would end a lot of arguments.
I don't believe in God. Teach a man to be a good citizen and you have solved the problem of life.
-Andrew Carnegie
...if the American people want to know who's partly to blame for this, then they need to start looking in the mirror. The reason why nobody is bringing up Article VI of the Constitution is at least partly due to the abysmal lack of civic literacy in this country. It's positively staggering how many adult Americans evidently don't know (among other things) that the Bill of Rights prohibits the government from establishing a national religion -- according to the Intercollegiate Studies Institute, only 27% of the 2,508 American adults who took their 2008 civic literacy test were able to answer that question correctly (and elected officials, ironically, did marginally worse overall than ordinary Americans did). The truth is that if the Founding Fathers could see us today, they'd probably be heartily disgusted with us.
If you're interested in learning more about the results of the 2008 civic literacy test (and possibly taking it yourself), here's the link:
http://www.americancivicliteracy.org/2008/sum...
I wouldn't advise you to visit this page if you've just eaten, however, since the results might very well make you violently ill. (I might put in parenthetically that I scored an 83% -- a solid B -- when I took this test the first time.)
Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.
When is Franklin going to get off the TV and answer my registered letter I sent to him, John Hagee, Joel Olsteen, Benny Hinn and Jesse Duplantis? I challenged each one of these idiot charlatans to a debate on the bible. Any time and any place is fine by me.
I was once the lead piano player in a whorehouse.
We all know it is absolutely impossible to get elected as the local "dog catcher", let alone POTUS, if a person is openly an atheist.
Ridiculous.
Religion will be the downfall of Humanity.
won't be standing on the yard, waiting for me and others to put them in their places. Hopefully Satan isn't a prison guard with a can of pepper spray and a Tazer...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
And a nightstick to be applied judiciously?
It's been my understanding that ol' Scratch's got a lot of anger to work off...
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
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Dumber than his father! These fuckin' self proclaimed Men of God
have a different standard for judging each individual. Their famous response:
"Biased, not me!' To hell with this ass hole!
....where's your christian card? Aren't you carrying one? NO well then, you must not be a christian either. c'mon prove to me you're a christian.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
i'm not certain Obama is a christian, either. I hope in his heart he isn't.
Franklin's Tower
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
I'm not sure Franklin Graham is a human. Is he even a primate?
And who exactly cares.
People are not going to divide and conquer themselves, you know?
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
Graham: "Well, you see... it's like this. I'm a God-damned Christian celebrity, which means I have no other source of income but pretending I have been authorized to say who and who is not Christian, and to speak for Jaysuhs. And then you cover my idiotic accusation as if it was important news, and you guarantee me the media exposure I need to reach the Rubes and take their money. Thanks for playing Crooks and Liars!"
Given Mr. Graham's history of spreading hatred against Muslims, pretending that war criminals were nice guys (the LRA) and enriching himself by fleecing his followers, I'm not sure HE'S a Christian...
I'm not sure about this,but I thing Franklin Graham just might be a twat!!
I hope he keeps speaking like this. I believe it will lead more people to vote Democratic in November.
That's ok. I am pretty sure he isn't either. I am talking about Graham.
LIKE FATHER, LIKE SON.
Some stuff you can't make up!
I'm more concerned about chocolate than I am Christians.
Does that make me a candy bar?
He looks like a cheesy game show host.
I'm pretty sure Franklin is not a christian; but I am positively sure that he is a money grubbing, lying-ass fascist, and a fly-by-night televangelist.
This guy needs to start paying big-time taxes. That oughta shut him up.
If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.
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