Wallace said: Brother Kristol here in his trouble making this week...
Why is Bill Kristol a trouble maker? Do you mean that he wouldn't blindly follow the company spin so he's a bad guy? If he was a liberal it would be framed as an opposition point of view. Partisan much Mr. Wallace? Also, Kristol slammed Hume's suck up to the White House routine as well
I have been really enjoying this stuff, I can't lie. Watching conservative wingnut talk-show hosts attack other Republicans has been a joy. It's not only Limbaugh fighting with the GOP and then watching them come a crawling back to beg forgiveness either. They usually focus on the evil liberals and dirty f*&king hippies who hate America (people like you and me), so after I listened to this segment back in March, I knew we had won more than an election.
The infrastructure of talk radio (and FOX News) that was built to try and make America a one-party (conservative) system is now cannibalizing itself and Rush Limbaugh is the Zombie King. Mark Levin was offended by Frum's criticisms of Limbaugh in this article:
On the one side, the president of the United States: soft-spoken and conciliatory, never angry, always invoking the recession and its victims. This president invokes the language of “responsibility,” and in his own life seems to epitomize that ideal: He is physically honed and disciplined, his worst vice an occasional cigarette. He is at the same time an apparently devoted husband and father. Unsurprisingly, women voters trust and admire him.
And for the leader of the Republicans? A man who is aggressive and bombastic, cutting and sarcastic, who dismisses the concerned citizens in network news focus groups as “losers.” With his private plane and his cigars, his history of drug dependency and his personal bulk, not to mention his tangled marital history, Rush is a walking stereotype of self-indulgence – exactly the image that Barack Obama most wants to affix to our philosophy and our party. And we’re cooperating! Those images of crowds of CPACers cheering Rush’s every rancorous word – we’ll be seeing them rebroadcast for a long time.
Levin took offense at what he considered personal attacks against the Zombie King; he wouldn't even link up Frum's columns, but did read some of it to his audience while Frum tried to debate the merits of his case. Frum's central point was that Limbaugh is taking the GOP in the wrong direction -- something that's become obvious to everyone except the Zombies like Levin.
Every slimy thing Karl Rove did before and after Bush is unraveling, no matter how much Villagers like Gloria Borger elevate Rove to godlike status:
Ann calls the bad new from Iraq "background noise." In Ann's world we shouldn't be carping about every casualty, every bombing, every death. Hey "War is Hell." Her reference to D-Day is a particularly "low-brow" analogy. Coulter wants to know how we know Iraq isn't going very well. After all she's no military expert. However, she doesn't believe FOX's own experts like "biblical justice" Hunt who is saying we're in trouble over there. Annie disputes that it's worse now than it was last year.
Bill and Ann then had a little spat about Vietnam:
COULTER: Yes, we kind of did. I think we did lose that one.
O’REILLY: I don’t. I disagree with you. But that’s a debate for another day.
COULTER: They’re living under communism, Bill.
Newshounds has more on the segment: She blamed broadcasters like Cronkite and Democrats in congress for our defeat in Vietnam because they said we were losing.
Ballon-Juice : Longtime readers know my feelings about Bill O’Reilly, and when O’Reilly and Coulter debate, it is sort of akin to a Cowboys/Browns Superbowl for me.
Keith was on fire last night. Pat Buchanan threw James Dobson under the bus yesterday while discussing his outrage over the Harriet Miers nomination on Countdown:
BUCHANAN: Listen, I would be surprised if the Judiciary Committee does not subpoena Dr. Dobson and ask him, what were you told by Karl Rove and were you given indications that Ms. Harriet Miers would overturn Roe v. Wade?
I mean, if he's indicated he's got specific inside knowledge that has caused him to come out for her, when everybody else is against her, or everybody else is doubtful, I think my guess is, he will get a subpoena.
I don't like either of these gents very much, but Pat nails it. What did Karl Rove promise Dobson privately about Harriet Miers that nobody else is allowed to know? How many of us are all broken up by this statement Pat made about conservatives?: "They're depressed and a lot of them are virtually heartbroken." You got the President you wanted. Now you're "Reaping what you Rove." I like that bad slogan. lol
Fox Sunday: Hume and Kristol bicker over Gitmo fate
While Bill Kristol and the other panelists at Fox News Sunday seemed to agree that Gitmo might be closed, Brit Hume refused to accept the possibility.
moondawg: Brit Hume is defending Gitmo and Bill Kristol goes after him, briskly asking Hume to say why we need to be involved in heavy handed techniques of interogations and outside of legal jurisdictions, and why can't we accomplish our goals using standard, legal military rules. Hume is left mumbling, only able to call him "Bill" in a sarcastic tone. Kristol makes a strong and simple point. Must see TV.
Brit must have gotten programmed by the GOP denial cult this weekend. He's a good robot.
Watching the right-wingers frustrated with each other is a nice change.
It started with Hume's snickering at Juan Williams and then carried over to Bill. Kristol was pretty contemptuous of Hume's defense of Rove's remarks, saying unequivocally that they were not justified.
I used to write posts called 'When Conservatives Collide' when Brit Hume and Bill Kristol used to duke it out on FOX News Sundays back in 2005 and it was always a fun time. Now that Beck has entered into his full-frontal John Bircher mode over Egypt, Bill Kristol has pulled out his Ginsu knives. Monday, Beck responded to Kristol's earlier remarks. Politics Daily:
On his radio show Monday, Glenn Beck hit back hard at Bill Kristol over comments Kristol made in a recent column.
"People like Bill Kristol. I don't think they stand for anything anymore," said Beck. "All they stand for is power. They'll do anything to keep their little fiefdom together, and they'll do anything to keep the Republican power entrenched."
Beck was responding to a Weekly Standard column Kristol recently authored, which said:
When Glenn Beck rants about the caliphate taking over the Middle East from Morocco to the Philippines, and lists (invents?) the connections between caliphate-promoters and the American left, he brings to mind no one so much as Robert Welch and the John Birch Society. He's marginalizing himself, just as his predecessors did back in the early 1960s.
Beck continued slagging Kristol on his Fox News show Monday afternoon, declaring that the Egyptians' conception of freedom is so radically different from ours that the only possible outcome for "freedom" in Egypt is a totalitarian Islamic caliphate. Only one side can be right, he declared: Bill Kristol's side, or the view from Planet Beck.
Good times, good times. I don't like much of anything that comes out of either of these two, so it's nice to see them go MMA on each other. This is the same battle the Buckleys and Welches have had for decades and it will never stop. Pass me the popcorn please.
Beck also claimed that Kristol does not understand that "we are fighting the forces of evil on this planet."
Geez. If you were asked to name which conservative made that statement, you could safely say, "they all do." They're all heroes in their own minds.
Last week, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor said out loud what he really thinks: He believes Social Security "cannot exist." At all. For anyone.
This week NPR played Cantor’s remarks to the conservative Hoover Institution: He declared: "So we've got to protect today's seniors. But for the rest of us? For - you know, listen. We're going to have to come to grips with the fact that these programs cannot exist if we want America to be what we want America to be."
These guys say things like this at right-wing think tanks, expecting that the folks back home won’t hear them. We want to make sure every person in Rep. Cantor's congressional district hears those words straight from his mouth.
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What does Cantor mean when he says, " if we want America to be what we want America to be."
Why does Eric Cantor and Conservatives in think tank's like the Hoover hate working class Americans and seniors so much so that they would destroy Social Security? They are smart enough to know that cutting it now would destroy their election chances in 2012, so they make these sweeping unfactual statements about the future of Social Security. Here's the link to the NPR news report.
Rep. CANTOR: I mean, just from the very notion that it said that 50 percent of beneficiaries under the Social Security program use those moneys as their sole source of income. So we've got to protect today's seniors. But for the rest of us? For - you know, listen. We're going to have to come to grips with the fact that these programs cannot exist if we want America to be what we want America to be.
CORNISH: Cantor says Republicans will unveil their plans for the 2012 budget soon, which will include entitlement program reforms. They're keeping the details quiet for now. But it's clear the GOP will have to make the first move, since the president didn't include changes to entitlements in his budget proposals, and Democrats are on the defense. That's no easy task, considering the unveiling will likely collide with the ongoing debates over the debt ceiling, the current budget, and the threat of a government shutdown
When Conservatives Collide: Harriet Miers
When Christians Collide
