Shawna Forde's killer Minutemen finally attracting some national attention
The New York Times yesterday carried a report on the case of Shawna Forde's gang of killer Minutemen -- probably the first such report from any of the major mainstream media.
Mind you, it added little to what has already been reported on the matter, but it does give us a look at their impact on the community:
Sheriff Dupnik has said there is ample drug activity between here and the border. The suggestion has angered the residents of Arivaca, a town of retirees, artists and working people about 50 miles south of Tucson. “This is a good town,” said Fern Loveall, 76. “It’s a good place to live, and it’s a good place to raise kids. What they’re saying about it isn’t true.”
Members of Mr. Flores’s family also denied that he had had any connection to the drug trade.
“He was a good guy,” said Gilbert Mungaray, his 80-year-old grandfather. “I know what happened, but I can’t imagine why.”
The family’s house was silent this week. An American flag hung on the porch, and three pink roses adorned the front door. Down a dirt road, at the local community center, a picture of Brisenia, the slain daughter of Mr. Flores and Ms. Gonzalez, had been placed in a frame with a small black ribbon affixed to it.
For the regulars at La Gitana Cantina, a friendly establishment with a mixed clientele of Anglos and Mexican-Americans, emotions have ranged from abject sorrow to rage.
“I’ve had people come into the bar and just put their heads in their hands, and all the sudden they’ve got tears pouring down their face,” said Karen Lippert, a bartender. She added that while Mr. Gaxiola was a local, the two other suspects were not.
“This is not us guys,” she said. “It’s the not the way us guys operate.”
Meanwhile, Scott North at the Everett Herald reports that authorities had been given a heads up about Forde and her gang, but it went ignored.
The Green Valley News, meanwhile, reports that there may have been at least two more people involved in the home invasion, and more arrests may be forthcoming.
Of course, Fox News continues to completely and utterly ignore the story. It's not hard to imagine why, since Fox's pundits were among the most prominent cheerleaders for the Minutemen back in the day.
Back in that same day, and even before, there were some of us who were pointing out that this kind of bloodshed and violence was going to be inevitable whenever you start forming border-militia cells to do vigilante patrols. For some reason, though, we didn't get any airtime.
Did she kill Michael Jackson?
they gave Farrah Fawcett anal cancer, and caused Ed McMahon to age and die prematurely, and knocked off Sky Saxon for 'Pushin Too Hard'
me-oww!
...and made David Caradine's murder look like a creepy accidental suicide.
* There are two types of Republicans: millionaires and suckers.
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The Minutemen are also killing Cronkite as we speak because he's an unrepentant Liberal.
I read the opening to the NYT piece:
"Sheriff Dipstick..."
Can you blame me?
* There are two types of Republicans: millionaires and suckers.
"Mugsy's Rap Sheet": Recording history for those who seek to rewrite it.
You'll soon find out how truly tough you are.
The country will not be safe until every Republican is sedated and under the care of a mental health professional.
thats some bizarro fox shit
i hate it when the other side talks like that
all that shit does is cheapen and widen the gap
and fuck that redneck bitch
sorry to my good, self proclaimed redneck friends
The killing is over, the blood sponged out, the carpet thrown away and the bad guys are behind bars.
Ain't that America?
"we'll return after these messages"
Fox News has had little coverage on Hal Turner - only 8 stories since 2005 and they are all Associated Press stories, no original reporting, no mention of Hanity etc.
Back in the newspaper days, newspapers used news wire stories often to fill space on their pages. Editorial decisions or layout constraints might cause a 10 column inch wire story to be edited down down to 4 inches. Of the 10 inches the last 3 might be a bunch of disconnected or not particularly important information, and editors knew to start pruning from the bottom.
My question is - now that news web site reproduce news wire stories do they present them in full or can they be also edited? I can see how a newspaper might want its online version of an AP story to match the edited printed version, but can a site like FoxNews (which doesn't print) host AP stories that they have edited stuff out of that they don't like?
Google has made it much harder to find AP stories, so I haven't been to actually do any comparisons between different sites. Another thing that would make this task difficult is that news wire stories are constantly being updated during the day - e.g. the 3pm version vs the 5pm version.
newspapers do. He sends daily talking points and controls everything his News Corp. says and does. Isn't that called micromanaging? Isn't it also called one big sleazy blowhard having too much to say in too many ways? Not just in this country, either. Think about it.
Who owns AP? UPI is owned by the Moonies. Never mind.
The only real US newspaper Murdoch owns is the New York Post. (the WSJ is a financial paper).
Checking out the NYPost they have 0 stories about Shawna Forde and Hal Turner.
I sometimes follow the news in Colorado Springs because my elderly parents live there. It is a rather right wing place and I've noticed that the local Gazette often just doesn't cover right wing killers. One recent example I noticed was that Poplawski who killed Pittsburgh cops never appeared in the paper. Further checking shows it also has 0 stories about Shawna Ford and Hal Turner. The Gazette has a rather active commenting crowd often heavily right represented but it is hard to know what the locals think about right wing violence if the paper doesn't mention it. The Dr. Tiller assasination is disproprotinately covered (35 stories) and those stories have the most and most contentious comments.
The Gazette has some AP stories at their site but I haven't checked to see if they have been edited to suit local tastes.
UPDATE: I have just looked at FoxNews's coverage of Poplawski. All of the 13 stories come from the AP and just say he was a crazy person that hated cops and don't mention that he was a far-right racist. Likewise the NYPost has only 1 AP story that dismisses Poplawski as an anti-cop 'sicko'.
These are the people that breed hate and violence. They claim to be patriotic Americans protecting the country but these latest events prove they are racist and opportunistic. I call bullshit on these people. It's the southern states showing their hatred towards people of color and using them for both money and political reasons. Conservatives are sick fucking people. John has posted a couple of articles tonight on their approval of murder as a weapon. Evangelical my ass.
We had this discussion before but we must fight them before the kill us.
is intended to be a factual statement
I just simply don't understand all the hate. It's heart breaking.
Yeah, I'm a dirty fucking hippie.
...deep within. These people hate themselves, and it's so deeply rooted, they don't even know it. The O'Reillys and Becks stoke that hatred, because they make TONS of money doing so. It's pathetic. I think it would be GREAT if a large number of people were to organize a protest in which everyone would be holding up a sign with a picture of that poor little girl, who these barbarians murdered in cold blood, and stand right outside the FAUX News Studios. How about REALLY organizing it in a way that everyone holds up a card, and as they are all held up, it creates one GIANT sized picture of that little girl?...Just a thought.
I don't understand all the hate either and like you, I'm also a 60s hippie flowerchild.
if you dont hate , what a paradox huh ? , it is truly amazing that thru time we have been taught to not trust and hate those who are not of our tribe . WTF sometimes I hope a dozen space ships show up and tell us , join us in peace " last chance " .
And oh ( us ) hippies ya no took bathes , oh dear lets play drop the soap , dirty hippies lol , care for a steamer .
every time you throw a little mud , you lose a little ground .
republicanism is a mental illness!
Thanks for keep up on this story. I lived for 30 years in North Seattle and Everett, did lots of volunteer work at the Tulalip Boys and Girls Club evern before thay had a building, and was into the stories of the area.
This is by far the most horrible actions by a NW group of losers. It needs to be followed and please keep up with what happens next.
"Let's talk dirty to the animals"
...why does America produce so many racist crackers? We seem to have more than our share. This segment of society should be waning, but it's waxing instead.
Since 1980 when Reagan was installed as Acting President, the American news has been slowly taken over by far-right assholism. Today, nearly 30 years later, we have pundits on National TV openly calling for the murders of politicians and judges, that has become normal:
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/elimi...
Here is the yard-stick, when I was a kid Southern culture was a huge joke:
NASCAR
'Pro' wrestling
Country 'music'
Crazed far-right extremists (like the John Birchers or Pat Buchanan)
Southern Pride (enthusiastic racism)
Born-Again 'christians' (and their hatred for everything Jesus said and did)
Now they are the pinnacle of American society. I live in Vermont, yet Southern culture is in total control here. I still can not believe that half the FM radio stations are 'Country' music! This is the Yankee North, that Southern crap has no business being here.
So, in conclusion, what we have allowed to happen is for the South to have finally won the civil war. Asshole rednecks have taken over America.
Anybody who watches Faux Noise, a Reslug channel, should hang their heads in shame and disgust.
I've been reading Orcinus for what, 4 years now. Unfortunately, you hit this one right on the head, didn't you? Good work m8, and keep on these shits.
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