Jonah Goldberg on Obama: 'The media have turned into head past the sphincter suck up to the guy'
By John Amato Friday Nov 21, 2008 10:00am
The Obama Derangement Syndrome officialy has begun. We know the right wing smear machine went into over drive during the general election, but I wanted to kick it off with one of the finest Conservative yes men there is, Jonah Goldberg. He once famously wondered why liberals didn't like Dick Cheney very much.
Anyway, here he is on Hannity and Colmes getting very frothy over Obama's pick of Eric Holder as AG and even the mention of President Lincoln...
Goldberg: I agree I think we should give Obama a chance to spread his wings. We should also give him a chance before we start comparing him to Lincoln. The guy's not even president yet.
Colmes: He's not comparing himself to Lincoln, he's reading the Doris Kearns Goodwin book...
Goldberg: Actually he is. Actually he is. He compares himself to Lincoln quite often in his speeches... (No, he's really not.) Alan, you keep saying that he doesn't, but he does.
Colmes: Newt Gingrich says he's impressed with how Obama is using Lincoln, do you disagree with Newt Gingrich?
Goldberg: I'm impressed with how he's gotten away with it. Yeah, I'm impressed how so many people in the media have completely turned into head past the sphincter suck up to the guy. That's impressive.
Colmes: Newt's impressed with how Obama is utilizing Abraham Lincoln as a role model.
Goldberg: Yeah. I'm impressed with how he's getting away with doing it. I disagree with Newt, uh, that he's actually using him very much as a role model. He's NOT EVEN President yet. And I find this so fascinating, the way the press wants this guy to be Lincoln. Everyone hopes he'll be like Lincoln. You know, Lincoln had to be Lincoln because we were on the verge of a civil war that racked up 600,000 American dead. Seems to me that I don't want to have a Lincoln. I don't need to need to have a Lincoln.
Wow, where to go in this rant. So is he saying that Newt is part of his sphincter club? I think we do need an exceptional president right about now, don't you? Or maybe an FDR. I'll be happy with a good effort by Obama, though. Everyone -- everyone except rabid ideologues like Jonah Goldberg -- wants Obama to succeed because we are in two wars where hundreds of thousands of people have been killed and maimed, our complete economic system is in a perilous state with people losing their jobs like crazy since Bush. And Goldberg is foaming at the mouth because Obama reads about Lincoln.
This is what Conservatives will be doing to Obama all through his presidency. And I say, go for it. They are just looking like children crying that Billy took their Tonka truck away in the sandbox. Americans want real answers, not Insane Clown Posse behavior directed at the man they just elected.
See the Tucker/Goldberg video here from Jun 26, 2007:
Tucker: ....you're apt to see hyperventilation. People hate Cheney on this visceral level. What is so hate-able about Dick Cheney?
Goldberg: I have no, I really ... I truly have no idea. I like Dick Cheney. Love to have a beer with the guy -- I think one of the things that bothers them is that he doesn't care! The opposite of love isn't hate -- it's indifference.
The Doughboy should know that America hates Cheney. That's not me saying it, that's every poll known to man.
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gasp !gag! omg so have us!
so enlightening to count the number of anal/gay references used by the right- wingnuts. These people, including fatboy here, are the worst self-loathing, closet cases.
I haven't post anything in awhile since the election. But I remember a line from the movie with Micheal Douglas in "The American President".
"A. J. MacInerney: The President doesn't answer to you Louis!
Lewis Rothschild: Oh, yes he does A.J. I'm a citizen, this is my President. And in this country it is not only permissible to question our leaders it's our responsibility!"
So I was dishearten when one of the C&L sitemmonitor lose sight of this, when it become no longer permissible to question Obama every move he makes. I voted for him, but that doesn't mean I will turn a blind eye and slip into slumber because my man won the election, and I hope my favorite site doesn't falls into that same blind eye to Obama and his administration. To be an American citizen means to be vigil about every policy that will effect every Americans. We have criticize the GOP of being blind in the name of the party interest. Jonah is blind to his party, and I hope John Amato sees this and remind everyone that we don't become like that as well and gloat in our winning elected president.
I can only encourage our new president to keep his integrity and win our trust the old fashion way when he takes office. If he slip and tumble on principle, then I will be there to speak my mind. But so far I have been in cloud nine that he have won and I could be easy to slip into slumber once again, but I think that is how we ended up with Bush as president. We don't need anymore Jonah Goldberg derangement syndrome.
I would punch him in his fat face, given the opportunity.
Nice..threaten him with violence. Very erudite. Vey progressive.
I emailed him a few years ago and called him a chickenhawk. I asked him to join the Marines. He said he couldn't because of health reasons.
The so called conservatives have nothing. They don't even have an ideology anymore. Balance budgets, isolationism, balanced trade, personal freedoms...all gone.
Try fat arse. To much arse kicking in the Marines. I'll bet he hates getting sweaty.
but for reasons associated with his own sphincter. Gawd I hate smarmy people like him.
A cream puff pie in the face would be about right.
Jonah Golberg is a clown, is he not and that is what clowns do.
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But CHRIST, people like him infuriate me.
How about if I challenge him to a UFC match?
Is that Kosher?
That's better than Rush Limpballs excuse for dodging which was he had a pimple on his ass.
Spare me the lecture, Leadership.
Sometimes, people like this asshole need a good ol' fashioned ass whuppin.
I'm not callin for him to be killed or maimed or anything extreme like that.
But if he got the living shit beat out of him, I wouldn't lose sleep.
And besides. If all the people who are willing to resort to violence are all on the other side...kinda makes things a bit lop-sided, dontcha think?
Maybe if the progressive movement had more people willing to knock the shit outta some lying sack of shit like Goldberg, maybe they would think twice about being such lying, cheating, nazi bitches.
Expressing your wishes hardly constitutes a direct threat.
And Leadership, I apologize if I sounded a little harsh replying to ya...I'm just fed up with these rightwing shit-stirrers.
Thanks LnM no problem. I want to hurt bad people too. I just hate when we, and I mean me as well, act like them.
I have often think of a million Americans in cars and trucks and buses, armed with the Constitution and the Nuremberg laws and the Geneva convention, hauling Bush and Cheney and their whole team out of the White House.
I just think sometimes words aren't enough.
Just the way I was raised I guess...my folks taught me, if someone keeps talkin shit about ya, and after all attempts at handling it without fighting fails. then beat the stuffin out of 'em. Usually shuts them up.
And I've had similar thoughts. A multi-million person march, all races, all backgrounds...all Americans, marching the WH and taking it back from these fascist thugs.
Then handing them over to the Hague.
I would totally back arresting them and putting them on a plane. Totally!
Wouldn't that just be friggin awesome?
Never happen most likely...but still...nice to think about.
First, I am a martial arts instructor and would gladly train liberalNmoderation for a match with the Doughboy. That being said, the difference between an angry lefty and someone like Jonah Goldberg is that we want JUSTICE, not retribution, or in most cases overkill, like the Reich wingnuts do. The worst we would want happening to a douchnozzle like Doughboy is a good ass-kicking. He would want us tortured to death.
What Jonah Goldberg is saying is ... Exactly What His Mother Told Him To Say.
Oh Yeah. That's right.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucianne_Goldberg
"Lucianne Goldberg (born Lucianne Steinberger on April 29, 1935 in Boston)...was a central figure behind the scenes in the Lewinsky scandal.
"During the 1972 presidential campaign she joined the press corps covering candidate George McGovern, claiming to be a reporter for the Women's News Service, an affiliate of NANA. In fact, she was paid $1000 a week by Richard Nixon operative Murray Chotiner for regular reports about happenings on the campaign trail. She said "They were looking for really dirty stuff...Who was sleeping with who, what the Secret Service men were doing with the stewardesses, who was smoking pot on the plane--that sort of thing."
This ButtNut Didn't Fall Far From That tree.
The little creep got famous by going on cable during the impeachment and whining about how people were treating his MOMMY unfairly. Pretty soon he had a job writing for Buckley.
Of course no one WAS treating his MOMMY unfairly: she was a loathsome piece of shit and was, ironically, treated with far more respect than she ever deserved.
That explains a lot.
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Actually we do need a Lincoln because George Bush has racked up 4500 American service member dead, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi dead, and trillions in debt. Doughy Pantload is just another clueless out of touch and thankfully irrelevant neocon con artist.
Has this been his nickname for awhile now? There seems to be a consensus that it is!
Hilarious!
This is the same site where I learned the word "shitwhistle". Language is fun.
make no mistake about it.
Yes. he's been called 'Doughy Pantload for a few years now.
YouTube: Doughy Pantload In His Own Words
Shitwhistle?!
First time hearing that one!
So Doughy Pantload, I suppose you and Mom would prefer he emulate the CheneyBushCo regime's example.
Why do Lucianne and her spawn, the Doughy Pantload hate America and the world, and just humankind in general?
This country has real problems. People are losing their taste for the stupid, divisive, mean, dead ends that people like Tubby spew. Maybe his mommy can find him a new job.
This pudgy,wet, steamy, pant load knows nothing about media or journalism. It is a shame that we did not have a draft for this war so this worhtless chickensh*t, chickenhawk could have done his duty for the war he supported so much.
Jonah was the reason I cancelled my subscription to the LAT...well he and Max Boot. Nothing he says or does deserves media coverage because he is a non-entity.
Send Doughy to Iraq to support the troops and watch him really dump a pantload.
Just look up "asshat" in any Dictionary, & check the illustration.
Yep....it's Jonah.
I remember he was on The Daily Show a while back promoting his book, & John ground him into the ground, & Jonah was whiiiiining the whole time. pooh babeee.
Goldberg, you are a total dumbass. Seriously.
We're in two wars, our government is totally paralyzed with partisan bullshit, the economy has imploded and most of the world pretty much hates us.
And you don't need a Lincoln?
I didn't even listen to this. Just read it. I just ate lunch.
Goldberg is the poster boy for special education.
The Heritage foundation should have addressed his special needs before graduating him into the media.
It is just shameful that Goldberg got left behind and still graduated.
Add Doughy's name to this list http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html of neocons and conservative cowards who need to be shipped off to the front lines in Iraq. Drop their asses in Faluja with a rifle in their hands and watch em crap themselves. Better than allowing them to spew their shit here. The voters showed them the door 2 weeks ago so let's open another door for these right wing chickenhawks and blow hards to the front lines.
The cons are all afeared they are facing a hi*ler. But they had nothing to say when the hi*ler on the horizon was their personal asspuppet.
Basically they're scared shitless that Obama will govern like a President and not like a dry-drunk frat-boy moron who can be manipulated with a smile and a pat on the back.
No more free ride.
Their whining is annoying but their fear is delicious.
is what you're referring to, I think.
Fuck this idiot.
Sphincter of the highest order! A number one a-hole! He should crawl up his and never speak in public again!
Where do these people come from?
Goldberg is another bathroom gay so he knows all about sphincters.
... is the Doughy Pantload. Just perfect.
Shit spews from his mouth and collects in his drawers.
He is Angry about Obama b/c he cant hate is own fat ass. He has put all of his intel currency into the neocon theroies that have been proved to be false and then elected into oblivion and he cant stand it. He has been proved to be a small brained person and all he can do is lash out at the man who is a symbol for what America wants for its future. He is like the teenage boy who gets turned down by good looking girl and goes and takes out on the guy she is dating instead of trying to wonder what it is about himself that she dosen't like about him.
One other thing about Goldberg, or should I say schlemprock, he is hired by the Trib corp and it almost immeditly starts to go down the tubes, same with NRO, seems as though he is a bad luck charm for the right. So if you ever see Goldberg getting hired by another company, one word, SELL.
I saw someone wearing his face mask at a Halloween party. Scared the hell out of me.
I agree-- I don't think the constant manufactured outrage is going to work this time. I expect it'll actually end up doing more harm to Republicans.
This isn't 1995 and people have real concerns about the world; from the economy to the environment to our two occupations, etc. Obama's very popular and people are already disgusted with the Republican Party. This is exactly the *wrong* environment for these clowns to play their old schtick.
As long as the press hasn't turned their heads to allow Obama to launch an illegal war, they've got far to go before they approach their previous ass-kissing levels they achieved with Bush.
I'm actually happy that people like this continue to be broadcast Fox. It only gets turned on them eventually when their banter gets shoved back up their asses on the Daily Show. Keep up the good work boys!!!
Evan
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til his teeth spill like chiclets into the street.
Either rhetorically or physically. I don't care.
The shitwhistle gives altogether, wholly new meaning to "intellectual dishonesty."
I don't favor burning books, but i doubt i could pass a copy of his feculent piece of shit without wiping a gross booger into the pages, right there in the middle...
Just lemme have ONE punch!
Will that be passing anytime soon?
Even though I agree with the principles of the Fairness Doctrine, I don't think we should hold our breath. I can't imagine any politician would tackle such a feat. As easy as it sounds to reinstate what Reagan flushed away, I'm certain it be much more difficult. Even if you jumped through all the hoops and reinstated all the regulations, it would have to pass a court challenge. All the while the right-wing noise machine would be screaming censorship, and the Dems would take a beating because of it. Unfortunately, I think the genie is out of that bottle.
But you know what? Let them keep this silliness going! They can only sing one tune, these nutters. And I think they're digging themselves deeper and deeper every time they open their collective mouths spewing the same nonsense of which ever more people are catching on.
I say let Mr. Pantload and William the Bloody and Adam's Apple Annie and Billo the Clown keep talking! There's no better sales tactic for the Dems.
Oh mah Gawd.....dissing Lincoln is down right unpatriotic....pure un Amirracan.....Let's start a rumor.
Jonah Goldberg had one of his ribs surgically removed in order to better facilitate auto fellatio.
That's just what I heard.
Does anyone believe Goldberg drinks Beer?Look carefully at this guy and try to picture him tipping back a few pints at the Local.
Bzzzap.Sorry.I bet this douchebag never goes near anything other than vintage Wine.He is probably,almost certainly one of these jackass's that sniffs the cork,swirls the wine around in the glass and gargles with it to "detect" its "fruity aroma" and "full body".
Please....he's not even manly enough to be a wine drinker...
He's a smirnoff ice man...
No way dude-Doughy would never go near that "Commie" Tractor fuel.
Although he is a complete hypocrite..and Limbaugh does smoke Cubans..hmmmm.You may have me on this one.
Besides...even smirnoff ice ain't vokka...it's a "malt beverage"...
Limbaugh smokes dominicans...HA!
seriously...he may think they're Cubans...but they're dominican...
I did not know smirnoff ice was a malt beverage.(don't get around much anymore..)
Limbaugh BTW probably smokes more "pole" than anything else.
*rimshot*
And I give him hell about it too...
But yeah...right on about Limbaugh...that pole smokin fat fuck.
Not what I hear...
I hear it's teen-age Dominican boys he smokes...
LOL!!
...he definitely Sniffs Something???!
eom
he is right most of the media are enablers of the worst kind
sycophantic bums who wouldn't have a problen toeing the party line
please...the guy is an anus....so of course he knows exactly what a sphincter looks like...he just looks in the mirror everyday
Just another Bush enabling right wing nutcase barreling down the highway toward obscruity.
He can scream all he wants...the echoes of his stupidity will have died away long before the Obama Presidency is over.
Obama's hands are tied until the Inauguration.
The secession of The South and the blockade of Fort Sumter took place after Lincoln's election but before his Inauguration. When he took office Lincoln had to choose between letting The South's secession stand or fight it - he was powerless to deal with it as it unfolded.
So, the question is "How much worse will it get between now and January 20?" Or: "How much MORE damage can the Bush CRIME FAMILY do before Inauguration?"
On the other hand, Obama is using the "Bully Pulpit" of the president-elect more than I recall any previous president-elect. He's got the internet media working for him - in response to Bush's Saturday radio address Obama put up a video on YouTube. Lincoln couldn't do that!
Jesus Christ...this is nepotism gone wild. Jonah "I haven't had the time research to this properly, but if memory serves blah, blah, blah...therefore I am correct. Mommy said so." Goldberg has to be the biggest tool the past century has produced. He'd be pretty funny if he didn't have an organ like the LA Times publishing his twattery. Well, not funny...sad, still.
Make it stop...it hurts!
I laughed so hard at this it made my eyes all....wait for it............watery.
Sorry.
I'm here ta tell ya folks...
There's been some funny shit said here lately.
Maybe he's related to this guy...
http://media.nextautos.com/wp-content/uploads...
Give him a break L&P!
1) Conservatives are liars -- they have to be, because if they told the truth, no one would vote for them.
2) Conservatives are stupid -- the deep fear that engenders conservative philosophy encourages stupidity, and the ideological loyalty inherent to conservatism masks over whatever native intelligence remains.
George Will is an intelligent man transformed into a fool by ideology.
William Kristol is a man of ordinary intelligence transformed into a raving idiot by ideology.
Jonah Goldberg... well, I suspect he managed to become stupid all by himself.
Sums it up quite well.
I think his name should be officially changed to Goldboob.
"GoldBoob"
Goldsphincter
a little lotion should clear that right up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xhSEy1xKUo
We have attained perfect comedic harmonic convergence.
Let Carlin be Praised.
Praise be to Carlin!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSXjjbjLRSU
I would love to Carlin do a riff on goldsphincter
dont forget his evil sidekick Handjob
The Silver Taint!
That was supposed to be milk shooting out of my nose.good one!
It just came to me....it's a gift, it's a curse...
Taint a Silver Taint butta mask:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qKwibZNUKk
I'll have to check out the whole thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjOysSBaCYs&fe...
if the Doughy Pantload nym ever fades, I nominate "Goldsphincter" as a suitable replacement
Its the new Bond Villain
Fri, 11/21/2008 - 11:51 — pinkobait
"GoldBoob"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRqOelUrgbk
ysbaddaden you're a youtube Master
Quick like lightnin'!
http://www.foodsubs.com/Photos/cornwhiskey.jpg
Only Tucker could ask what is so hate-able about Cheney as Tuicker is such a hate-able little prick himself.
But someone who is so obviously a closet case like Goldboig...should refrain from using the words, "head", "sphincter", and "suck" in the same sentence...
Just sayin...
Who taught this home schooled moron, goldbooger, the art of debate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs4Gj7JsET4
He may be stupid but I don't think it is his stupidity which motivates him. He is a hatemonger. His fatuous arguments in "Liberal Fascism" have developed into full-blown racism.
His "Liberal Fascism" tracts are deliciously dumb.Border line retarded.
It is here where we truly observe an utter moron at the top of his game.
Any time this asshat or others like him are challenged in any way, their immediate reaction is to raise their voice...as if increased volume makes their nonsensical talk more credible.
It's like dealing with children.
How about we start here:
Weren't these the same douche bags that were comparing Bush to Lincoln when they were defending Gitmo and the suspension of Habeas?
They were attempting to pain him as someone approaching Lincolns awesomeness...and failed miserably.
Yes, I'd say boosh is a pain. But that's why we can always use:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xhSEy1xKUo
but I wonder if this is the kind of beer Goldboig would like to have with Cheney...
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-uGpFxnwrLz4/...
doughy pantsload preferred beer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJjSBKIuMWs
is makin me powerful thirsty!
It's funny how its okay to blame all our problems on Obama before he takes office but its not okay to lavish any kind of praise on him because of course he's not in office yet.
Jonah
the american people don't like you!the american people don't like you!the american people don't like you!the american people don't like you!the american people don't like you!the american people don't like you!the american people don't like you!the american people don't like you!the american people don't like you!the american people don't like you!the american people don't like you!the american people don't like you!
Or your stupid party. You blew it. you lost. Go away !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and trim your beard, douche!
Goldberg talks a lot but says nothing, other than whining like a petulant adolescent. Don't give this guy any more (electronic) ink.
I tried looking up his biography and they said he went to Grouchard (Sp), as the first group of men in allowed, but I've never heard of that school. And none that I found said anything about him earning anykind of degree. But somehow he's considered a journalist.
The school was founded in 1885 as a women's college, by Methodist ministers Dr. John Goucher and John B. Van Meter, with the assistance of Goucher's wife Mary Cecilia Fisher Goucher. Originally called The Woman's College of Baltimore, the school was renamed in 1910 in honor of its founding members and benefactors
The original campus was in the southern part of what is now the Charles Village neighborhood in Baltimore City. Goucher moved to its present suburban location in 1953. The college has been co-educational since 1986.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goucher_College
This suck-ass should spend more time dissecting how his "Rightwing Buffoons" have spent the last eight years flushing all aspects of what makes America good right down the toilet. Goldberg, good get a real job ya douche-bag!
Yo, douche. We're on the brink of a civil war again, you just haven't figured that out yet. There is an ever thinning strand by your divisive polarization and assumptive moral highground edict. It's just a breath away from happening in a recession/depression, it's a broken powder keg waiting for the perfect spark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax8JYmoRhy4
Rush Limpball? I love it!
Do you think he'd have a coronary if someone reminded him that Cheney is a traitor who outed an American spy?? Why does Obama freak these people out so much? I don't get it...
Just shove it doughy, just f*cking shove it. You hack son-of-a-bitch. Go cry to mommy about it. Your an irrational little baby nitwit. [Deleted-Sitemonitor]
When a plane full of Republicans has landed?...
The whine doesn't stop after the engines do...
How do I get this fuckwad out of my local paper? This twit is featured prominently in the Op-Ed page about 2-3 times a week. We have alot of stupid people where I live and they get much worse reading whatever this clown is writing.
Why does Doughy Pantload and his ilk want America to fail. If you don't support the president in a time of war your not a patriot, right Doughy?
Cheeto dust must cause some sort of dementia.
that he looked to him as a role even BEFORE Lincoln was President. Perhaps their poor upbringings, their careers as an attorneys, and their rise in politics was what Obama was implying? Notwithstanding their ties to Illinois? Or perhaps Lincoln's role as one of our greatest Prezzies?
Perhaps Goldberg is just pissed that a Republican elected President issued the Emancipation Proclamation that paved the way for Obama to become our 44th.
It almost sounds like racist overtones resounding from Goldberg's mouth, but I won't go there.... Or maybe even bitterness that we haven't elected a Jewish President yet, but I won't go there either. I'm assuming of course.
Goldberg, take a few valium and get thee to bed for a few months. You'll feel better and we'll really appreciate it.
the media have completely turned into head past the sphincter suck up to the guy.
Can someone decipher this for me? The comment makes no sense?
the most extreme of brown nosers? That's what I got at least. Not a line I really want to remember!
utterly destroys this fool on the daily show a few months back.
QSE32
"Tucker: ....you're apt to see hyperventilation. People hate Cheney on this visceral level. What is so hate-able about Dick Cheney?"
Yeah, what's so like-able about Tucker Carlson?
This moron should thank god for the "socialist" wingnut welfare system that enables clueless imbeciles like himself to make $$$$$$ while producing NOTHING but prognostications that are wrong 100% of the time, and totally devoid of reality or logic.
This guy would be running out of unemployment checks about now if his name wasn't Goldberg.
This guy is so freakin' stupid, he used the word "fascist" in the title of some piece of crap he wrote, without even knowing the definition of the word. He got it completely backwards. What an asshole!
WFB must be so proud of you, Jonah.
Similarities between the two are BS other than they were both elected from Illinois.
Lincoln was president of the Illinois Colonization Society before being elected to the nation's presidency. As president he wanted to remove all blacks from the United States or, in the least, segregate them from all whites.
Lincoln "freed the slaves" is BS; He freed slaves in all States that joined the Confederacy where he had no legal standing. It wasn't for humanitarian reasons but a failed Military tactic in hopes slaves would rise up against their owners and shorten the War of Northern Aggression. Slaves in the North and where Lincoln's military forces had control in the south were not freed until the 13th Amendment was ratified in 1865.
Obama is no comparison to Lincoln.
The 2004 GOP Platform says directly that Lincoln was our greatest leader
That's official republican policy, placed in print.
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