Obama smokes McCain on foreign policy: Reminds Americans that McCain sang Bomb, bomb Iran
By John Amato Wednesday Oct 08, 2008 9:40am
John McCain tried to once again attack Obama over his assertion that if he found OBL he would take him out. Somehow in McCain's mind, Obama is giving out classified secrets to the enemy by announcing that to the world. It was interesting that Obama won the foreign policy of the debate pretty easily last night. Charles Krauthammer was shocked over that development on FOX in the post debate wrap up.
Obama: You're doing a great job, Tom. Look, I -- I want to be very clear about what I said. Nobody called for the invasion of Pakistan. Sen. McCain continues to repeat this.
What I said was the same thing that the audience here today heard me say, which is, if Pakistan is unable or unwilling to hunt down bin Laden and take him out, then we should.
Now, that I think has to be our policy, because they are threatening to kill more Americans.
Now, Sen. McCain suggests that somehow, you know, I'm green behind the ears and, you know, I'm just spouting off, and he's somber and responsible.
McCain: Thank you very much.
Obama: Sen. McCain, this is the guy who sang, "Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran," who called for the annihilation of North Korea. That I don't think is an example of "speaking softly."
This is the person who, after we had -- we hadn't even finished Afghanistan, where he said, "Next up, Baghdad."
So I agree that we have to speak responsibly and we have to act responsibly. And the reason Pakistan -- the popular opinion of America had diminished in Pakistan was because we were supporting a dictator, Musharraf, had given him $10 billion over seven years, and he had suspended civil liberties. We were not promoting democracy.
This is the kind of policies that ultimately end up undermining our ability to fight the war on terrorism, and it will change when I'm president.
McCain: And, Tom, if -- if we're going to go back and forth, I then -- I'd like to have equal time to go -- to respond to...
Brokaw: Yes, you get the...
McCain: ... to -- to -- to...
Brokaw: ... last word here, and then we have to move on.
McCain: Not true. Not true. I have, obviously, supported those efforts that the United States had to go in militarily and I have opposed that I didn't think so.
transcript via CNN
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FRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIST
I Don’t Understand
if Obama is a terrorist....
Why can’t Bush find him?
Didn’t anybody tell Homeland security what his middle name is?
Doesn’t McCain know what one looks like?
How did Obama get past the Secret Service?
Why isn’t Obama on the No Fly List, but most likely you are?
Damn, Sen. Obama was brilliant. Time for McCain to go the way of Old Yeller.
First teach that old dog how to shake hands!
I am a very strong supporter of Barack Obama, but I think it should be pointed out that the handshake controversy may be a mistake. I think the two senators shook hands while they were blocking Brokaw's teleprompter immediately after the last question. In the clip in question, it looked to me like McCain tapped Barack on the shoulder, and when he turned, motioned for him to shake the hand of Cindy McCain. Let's not pile on the poor guy; he did enough damage to himself with his facial expressions and aimless wandering around the stage.
Who the #$ cares if the old geezer did or did not shake hands...
He acted like an out of touch condescending prick. There is enough rope on his actions in plain camera, no need to nitpick on some stupid stuff like the handshake.
BTW, did anyone notice how the McCains literally bolted from the debate once it was over, not even a few minutes to talk shop with the attendees. Maybe they were too many commoners for poor Nancy to deal with their cooties?
See TPM - this claim that they did not shake hands was debunked last night.
I'm voting for THAT ONE!!
THAT ONE for the sake of USA and the rest of the world, the world can't stand four more years of Bush/McCain disastrous policies.
Put yourself in that situation. If you tapped someone on the back to get his attention so he could shake your spouse's hand and he turned around and raised his hand to shake yours, would you back away and point to your spouse as if to say, "No, not me. We already shook hands, but why don't you shake my spouse's hand?"
No, you wouldn't. You would shake the person's hand again and then guided them toward your spouse. Would it have killed McCain to shake hands again? Would it have killed him to sit still and pay attention while his opponent was taking his turn speaking instead of doddering around the stage?
It may be a small thing, but it's very telling.
You make a good point, especially given McCain's use of "that one," which raises the bar for him in the post-debate manners watch. I think he was more than a little befuddled at how poorly he came off, which may explain why he made such an early exit.
Never hit a man when he is down - kick him it's easier!
Shortly after Old Yeller started foaming at the mouth, he was taken out back and ... well, you know.
Please Old Yeller had integrity and a heart. McCain does not compare
Please do not besmirch the loving memory of Old Yeller by comparing him to an Old Fart.
McCain knows how to find Bin Laden, but he's not telling anyone until he gets elected. TREASON/TRAITOR/TERRORIST ENABLER!
I saw this comment somewhere else and it made me laugh:
McCain keeps acting like Obama keeps stealing his lucky charms.
ROFLMAO.
" Hey Obama, find your own terrorist to follow to the gates of hell. Here, take Bill Ayers and use him."
hahaha
HEh, HeHeHe.
this was when obama won the debate. mccain couldnt get out of that one.
mccain walked into that one. obama was waiting to hit him with that. schmidt was asleep at the switch.
Omaba smoked Mccain on all issues hands down...To bad it was just a "Town hall meeting" format..If a town hall meeting is in fact a true debate..
Didn't Obama mention it in the first debate as well - or do I remember wrong?
He did mention the "Bomb Iran" song in the first debate. But what Obama did here was to neutralize McCain's "Obama doesn't understand" line when that retort. He also did it while McCain was snickering during Obama's point and it completely smacked the smirk right off his face.
If you can watch this section of the debate on a bigger screen, you'll see what I'm talking about.
Man. I'm starting to feel sorry for McCain. Do you think he's trying to play the sympathy card?
What!!
No pity for the whore of the extreme right.
Here we go again.
"Whore". "Bitch".
Commentary without brains or heart.
but...the old codger asked for it.
I'm not.
I'm not really feeling sorry for McCain. He deserves to lose and I hope he loses spectacularly.
But, he is cutting a pretty pathetic figure lately.
I hope he feels shame for the first time in his life.
Considering his long-time history of being an unapologetically entitled manchild, I sincerely doubt it.
Before you begin to feel sorry for McCain, please consider that the sympathy card for what happened to him in 2000 is played out. He has repeated failed the American people in the following ways:
1. Putting Country First means selecting a vice-presidential candidate with enough experience and intellect to serve as an effective president should, God forbid, anything happen to you. McCain clearly politicized his selection and thus FAILED.
2. McCain played politics with Hurrican Ike, headed a dirty, smear-ridden convention. FAILED.
3. McCain not only allowed Palin to utter her "thanks, but no thanks" nonsense, he repeated reinforced this lie, as well as others such as Palin having real foreign policy experience. FAILED.
4. McCain "suspended" his campaign (but not his surrogates) in order to inject himself into very serious and sensitive congressional negotiations. He may or may not have ruined the process. However, it is clear that the process did not benefit from this politicization. FAILED.
5. McCain attempted to take credit for the success of a non-existent success of the bailout/rescue plan, while criticizing Obama for phoing it in. McCain also phoned it in. FAILED
6. McCain is responsible for the outright defiance and utter contempt Palin showed for the VP debate process and her unserious, unprofessional and uncouth performance. The American people deserved a serious discussion of the issues. They got a Hooter's style sideshow. FAILED.
7. McCain has dishonored himself by resorting to smear tactics and outright race-baiting as a last ditch effort to defeat Obama. That's not change we can believe in. FAILED.
Obama won by keeping his cool and being kind of boring and by contrast, exposed McCain as the hothead with dangerous ideas. One of the few moments of truth to come out of the extended hyperbole that passed as serious debate.
PWNED, OWNED, SNOOKERED, SNIPED
His expression after the "thank you" is priceless. Obama made him look like a complete fool.
That was the best part, in my opinion. McCain gets his snide little "Thank you very much" in there just in time to be utterly smacked down. Thank you, sir, may I have another?
We need a more coherent, more effective foreign policy than, "Grrrrr! Hulk McCain smash!"
McCain is coming off as the kind of rookie that swings at every pitch, whether it's in the groove or so far out you'd need a telephone pole to hit it. Forget about winning the playoffs, you'll be on the AA team inside of the first week.
We need defense in depth, just like a solid outfield, and we need to be adaptable and smart. This fear-fear-fear and bomb-bomb-bomb garbage is probably why Johnny 'Ace' McCain came in five from the bottom in his graduating class.
John McCain - the Chicago Cubs of the presidential race.
Puleeease....the Cubs had a way better year than McCain.
After that whole thing McCain said that his diddy was just a joke to a friend. But do I remember rightly the video of him singing that diddy he was on a big stage? And that's supposed to be a private joke with a friend?
he was on a stage.
Yes, it was at one of those infamous, rigged town hall meetings of his. And it's 'ditty', not 'diddy', just fyi. Sorry...grammar girl 2, here.
you're a girl?
Hoo boy...I was off base!
thanks darlin . . . that explains all the red lines when i was typing it out. :)
here is mccrazy saying that he was proud of the "joke"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeThckstKNE&fe...
saying that it was said in the company of vets...so its ok
You are quite right- it was at during the course of a campaign stop, on stage, in response to a question. It was definitely not a private joke to a friend. So he is simply trying to downplay his ill-chosen words in public. His irresponsibility and sense of entitlement- a common R-party trait, is absolutely stunning. The VP pick is a perfect case in point.
In terms of leadership, poise, charisma, knowledge, ideas- JM simply does not hold a candle to BO. But then- with the devious R-party and their masses of kool-aid addicts, none of these obviously counts. They will behave like the duped herd, as is their nature. And then the R-party will use their "con-game" strategies, just as vote manipulation, and using their SCOTUS buddies to put absolute retards and dumbbells to wreak havoc upon human beings.
As long as their super wealthy base (remember the chimpanzee's claim, "these are my base- the Haves and the Have-Mores"?) is doing well, nothing else matters to these cave-dwellers.
I also recall JM's mean-spirited acquiescence to a rabid supporter at another campaign stop, who asked (about Hillary Clinton, when the Democratic primaries were going on) something along the lines of, "How can we stop the bi..h?" He shared a laugh with his audience.
You are correct. I think McCain still doesn't get the concept of video.
Here's the clip.
can the Bush Cabal do between now and the end of January 09.
Everyone's so obsessed with McCain and Palin we've forgotten Bush still has his hands on the "tiller".
According to Naomi Wolf, martial law is in the process of being enacted.
I've read a couple of rumors in that direction.
I wouldn't put it past 'em - they've amended Posse Comitatus, there's Blackwater, there's the fricking 'relocation camps' built by Halliburton, and the continuance-of-government directive that says GWB is the sole instrument of government in a national emergency.
'Cause when you can't win on merit ... cheat.
discusses a waking nightmare
http://www.vodpod.com/watch/1058492-naomi-wol...
Naomi Wolf said as of Oct. 1 a coup has happened. Watch the video, listen and learn from history. It may already be too late.
Stage another "Peral Harbor-like" event, call it a national emergency and declare martial law?
On the link above; Naomi Wolf discussing martial law. It's on the long side; make some popcorn and be prepared for a fright. She makes a compelling case.
Seriously, McCain just set his own trap there.
Obama definitely cemented his lead last night, no doubt about it. McCain came across as impatient, incoherent, uncouth, ill-informed, and petulant. Obama came across as patient, open-minded, and...dare I say it because I fucking HATE this word sometimes...Presidential.
McCain seriously screwed the pooch with this one, and Obama was more than happy to take up the cruelty against animals case.
I see that the ugly, divisive, hate-filled rhetoric has not stopped and McCain and Palin are "inciting to violence" once again.
This needs to be stopped and stopped immediately or all faith in our criminal justice system will be gone.
For someone running for President to so obviously use hate and anger to "incite people to violence" is dangerous to any civilization - where the hell is The Patriot Act right now?
If any of us did the same thing, we'd be cuffed and in prison right now for "inciting to riot".
It's time to hold these two repulsive individuals to the same standard; it's time they be told to "cease and desist" with their intention to "incite to violence" right now.
It's time for the citizens to protest the McCain/Palin campaign under the rules of the Patriot Act. They are actively working to incite the kind of violence we've been sadly witnessing at their rallies. They need to be stopped in their tracks.
They're beginning to resemble Adolph Hitler and Eva Braun up there taunting people and poking at the darker side of human nature. This is a disgusting precedent which is being set by these two obviously twisted individuals.
Stop this incitement to violence right now - write to every member of congress and everyone you know.
All by herself, Palin has become a cult figure. Very dangerous woman much like Aimee Semple McPherson.
Sweet! Love the new format!!
McCain Applies Lessons of Iraq to Financial Crisis
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=3813
mcliar couldnt even tell the truth about when and where he made the joke
he said it was to an old navy buddy...but here it is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zoPgv_nYg
this is to a group of people...not an old navy buddy
liar...
I think the guy is so out of touch, that he doesn't realize we can find his very stump speech on the inter-tubes these days.
I guess, he is so used to lie and get away with it... aaaaah the god old days where there was not distributed media.
Interesting debating tactics by McKeating. Lopsided smirks, head shaking, gestures and generally acting like the class clown.
Added to the winking, gosh-darned adorableness of his running mate....
I am more frightened for my country than I have ever been in my 55 years.
"Very wealthy"? A country with less than half the USA's per capita GDP is very wealthy? Is McSame applying new post-Wall-Street-crash standards?
her designer moose shopping bag today.
http://tinyurl.com/3m3g2n
Personally I find it F***ing LAME and objectionable that Obama is saying he will just go out and kill anyone. Last I checked the US ideals were to respect DUE PROCESS. If Obama wants to separate himself from Bush he will pledge to respect the rule of law and call for OBL to be caught, arrested and TRIED FOR HIS CRIMES. Pathetic. And no, this is not an endorsement of McCain, of course.
The sheer and obvious desperation of both McCain and Palin has reached a fever pitch as they ratchet up the rhetoric which plays to the darker, evil side of human nature. This behavior by candidates running for the highest offices in the country is dispicable and dangerous.
It's time for the people to begin to protest this type of behavior at these "hate rallies" right now. It's time for us to press law enforcement and the Feds to step in and stop the actions of thest two individuals before it goes any further. Isn't that what the Patriot Act is all about?
Isn't that why we have a Patriot Act in the first place? Under these rules, the man who shouted a death threat in the public arena would be sitting in jail right now? Instead, we have officers arresting peaceful demonstrators carrying signs? Where is the fairness in all of this? Where is the justice?
Demand justice today and demand that these hate mongers stop their low-brow, gutter rhetoric because it's resulting in criminal behavior at their rallies.
Demand justice with Bush in charge?
Noble thought
Palin has become a CULT
Wed, 10/08/2008 - 11:01 — Jo
All by herself, Palin has become a cult figure. Very dangerous woman much like Aimee Semple McPherson.
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I would say palin's worse than McPherson. The latter was generally considered too show business by most of the religious establishment of her day, her appearances were more about her than any doctrine, and she was trying to establish one of the biggest churches in Los Angeles. But she never sought political power herself, nor did she even hint that she would rework the American Legal system to be more in line with her beliefs.
)O(
Palin is way more dangerous.
September 15 (Monday)
Financial tsunami,
economists were starting every sentence
with the words,
“Meltdown, Crisis, Recession, Depression, Suicide,”
as the candidate could be heard saying over his morning
oatmeal and then later in front of thousands of real live Americans,
and every TV network with cameras rolling,
babbling on about how, “The fundamentals
of our economy are strong.”
The groans of Herbert Hoover’s ghost could be
heard throughout America.
Every American now knew that it was
grab your ass
and pray time.
September 16 (Tuesday)
If that wasn’t bad enough one of your surrogates
tried to claim that you had invented a piece of
technology so complex that the aging
candidate wouldn’t be able to operate it,
even if he practiced every day for the rest of his life,
until 20 years after his own death.
Then another campaign aide said neither you
or your hastily selected number 2
were qualified to even run a small business.
This CEO’s own record of “success” was one of layoffs,
shipping American jobs thousands of miles away,
and keeping secrets from its stock holders.
What was her reward for such a colossal failure of
management and leadership?
Prison? Censure?
She was given a $21 million dollar
Golden Parachute,
by a company she ran
right into the ground
and leaving thousands of Americans
and their families to starve
like dogs.
Then you insult 25 million Americans of
Hispanic descent when you mistakenly
call one of America’s financial
institutions S-P-I-C!
September 17 (Wednesday)
The hits just keep on coming.
In front of all those microphones and cameras,
the candidate tells a disgusting story
about how all those fishes
in the entire ocean just ‘loves’ to play
and frolic around all our oil rigs.
Giggling to himself while trying to get others
to giggle along with him,
“You should see them just swimming around
all those rigs. It’s just the darndest thing
you ever saw.”
Never mind that they (the fishes) have started
growing a third eye and fingers complete
with fingernails.
September 18 (Thursday)
The economic future of America seems to
be swirling down a giant toilet,
and the best idea he comes up with
is to call on some kind of commission
to look into the “problem.”
People are starving and this guy
can’t make up his mind which
of his thirteen cars
his chauffeur
will use to drive him and his
heiress wife to the
restaurant that serves the best steak
in town.
The steak tastes even sweeter when
the candidate is wearing his $600
designer calf-skin shoes.
Then your number 2, thinks who she’s number 1,
and (in front of those pesky cameras again)
puts her name first and your name dead last
during a speech, with you standing
three feet away from her.
September 19 (Friday)
More cameras, more foolish mistakes.
You call for the firing of several top bureaucrats,
none of which belong to the organization
that you have a problem with.
And what’s worse is that all we have left to
talk about all weekend is how badly
you have screwed things up this week.
So smile, McCain campaign.
Things could be so much worse for you.
Just think, it could be raining.
Did you see mcBUSh walk across the floor while Obama was speaking? I didn't track the time. But mcBUSH was right behind Obama, and he was giving someone in the audience a very strange look, and waving his left hand back and forth as if to say "This guy's a whack job, ignore him". But it really looked as if he was taken by a sudden case of Alzheimers and wandered off into his own world and was trying to communicate with make believe people. It was very strange. I'm looking forward to people getting a copy of the video and examining it for more information about what was going on. All three of us watching the debate couldn't figure out what mcBUSH was doing.
Probably signaling he had to go to the bathroom.
That would explain his strange walk
OMG. McCain said I will act responsibly as I have acted throughout my military career? OMG!
The guy who liked to crash planes and cut class. Are you kidding me????
just as I had popcorn in my mouth. Good thing it wasn't a pretzel.
Real responsible there, John Boy. And leaving a family for an heiress is real responsible, too.
Like the guy who made 32 propaganda tapes for the enemy in exchange for favors not available to his comrades?
has forced the U.S. to take on so much more debt that we have broken the clock in midtown New York that tracks the national debt.
L.A....what happened...not enuf digits? I think the clock went up to $9,999,9999,9999,999.99
The CBS TV News Guy said (in lifeless monotone) "a whole new clock with two extra spaces will go up next year."
like an MP3 player, or video games?
TeH HeaDLINE!!
..is speled rong ....
This does NOT include any debate bounce that either candidate my receive:
Gallup Results:
Obama 51% (an increase of 1%)
McCain 41% (a decrease of 1%)
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/US/09/07/debt.cl...
Don't worry a "a whole new clock with two extra spaces will go up next year." according to . . . (sorry I can't remember the idiots name.)
Don't worry the Gubberment will save us!
BTW... Mrs. Chuck Hagel came out today in support of Senator Barrack Obama
Former Senator Lincoln Chaffee out stumping for Obama today in Columbus Ohio.
Obama does Ohio the next few days
http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/ohhome
Both Clintons are campaigning in Scranton, PA with Joe Biden today.
Vidwhoring, maybe, but entirely on topic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6LOZwh3Tko
Yeah and if McCain, Lieberman,Palin (new member of the warmongering club) have their way the U.S. or Israel will "smoke" Iran based on unsubstantiated claims.
Just going through some of the so called progressive blogs following the debate last night. Amazing at Firedoglake there was no write up or response to Senator McCain lying again repeating the debunked claim that the Iranian President "allegedly" said "Israel should be wiped off the map" When Professor Juan Cole and others who agreed that what the Iranian President said was Zionism "will vanish from the pages of time". Why is this false statement that is incredibly inflammatory allowed to be repeated without anyone challenging
Now we know there is not one MSM journalist who challenges, McCain, Lieberman, Cheney ,Palin or any other warmonger who repeats this lie. But when Progressive blogs do not mention when they repeat this lie..it is disturbing.
Firedoglake had a live blog from Blog 1- Blog 6 not mention of this repeated lie
http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/07/debate-live...
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This is the fifth time I have heard McCain repeat the false and debunked claim that the Iranian President said “wipe Israel off the map”. The second time during the debates. McCain has been allowed to repeat this lie on the Chris Matthews show, This Week, and Face The Nation. (those are the times that I have heard him, sure there have been other times). Palin repeated this false and inflammatory misquote during the Biden/Palin debate.
Now we know Lieberman, Ledeen and many other warmongers repeat this false statement…but why does the press allow them to repeat this lie?
Of course the only question about Israel was “would the U.S. attack Iran if Iran attacked Israel” We know what the answer is. Yes.
We know the more likely scenario and the question should have been. If Israel pre-emptively attacks Iran based on unsubstantiated claims will the U.S. follow?
The Israeli Palestian conflict and the strong possibility that Israel is far more likely to attack Iran than it is that Iran will attack Israel is barely mentioned in the so called progressive blogosphere. Not even a mention when the Presidential debate provides a perfect opportunity.
Well, well.....the first bit of comeuppence regarding Sheriff Scott's illegal use of his uniform due to the money Lee County receives from the Federal Government....
Then, it's time for the "morals" charges against this man!
Justice will be served and I hope he is stripped of his position immediately.http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27075121/
Here's the link
Looks like this capricious, violence inciting sheriff is going to cost the taxpayers of Lee County, Florida - mega bucks now!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27075121
Very Interesting, especially the part where they could wrap the case up before the November election date. He is an obvious bigot and former KKK. What pig!
but he'll be managing soup lines and tent cities at the rate things are going when he steps into office next Jan.
Thanks to Bush and his totally twisted ideology, this may be true - but at least we will have an honest man in the White House to bring us all back together, piece by piece.
Without that, we're totally fu**ed!
I find it hard to believe Americans have stood by passively and allowed this shit to go on for 8 FREAKING YEARS.
There's been a steady and concerted effort to dumb America down. Science bad, Bible good. The fake equivalency of thugs with bankrolls dominating the airwaves. Forget critical thinking, them smart folks are elitists. I have eight homes and thirteen cars, but I'm One of You.
Gotta love politicians. They're all coming out of the woodwork to endorse or appear with Obama...hoping to catch some of his glow.
I'm sure he'll be appearing on stage with Hillary real soon...then a trip to NYC where Mayor Bloomberg will endorse him and the rescue plan, a stop in Philly...have a quick cheesesteak with the mayor...
Enron traders moved to Wall Street 7 years ago.
How about some southern justice.
Take that bald headed drug store cowboy's gun and batch and throw his lard ass in the pokey.
this is too funny ...
down with tyranny has some great links to descriptions (with photographs) of attempts to prove whether and how one can successfully nail jello to the wall.
"John McCain Is Distracting People By Yammering About Nailing Jello To The Wall While His Campaign Tries Stealing The Election"
http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/
i was laughing too hard and forgot where i was ...
down with tyranny does in fact have a post up with the title i described above but i had googled the phrase "nailing jello to the wall" and it was a post at metafilter that had the hilarious links.
http://www.metafilter.com/75477/Like-nailing-...
And why pray is McLame being allowed to repeatedly get away with stating that he "knows how to get bin Laden"? Isn't it the responsibility of any living American who happens to know how to get bin Laden to inform the proper authorities of such a plan? Why isn't McSame outlining this brilliant course of action to Homeland Security, or will he only do so if we elect him.
He also claims to know how to win wars. Why isn't he sharing this knowledge with the Pentagon. We just had our 7th anniversary in Afghanistan. We certainly aren't winning there nor in Iraq.
Palin and McCain are speaking somewhere. Palin said that when the campaign began, McCain asked Obama to do ten town hall meetings with him and after the debate last night now we know why Obama refused. She was suggesting that McCain beat Obama in the debate.
Okay, now really. Get up off the floor and stop laughing, so you can help me up.
I think Obama was too busy creating campaign themes and actual policy for McCain to steal than to meet him at the church basement.
If McShame is so wise on how to capture OB, why didn't he share this
information with the current administration?
Gov. Bottom Bitch is on CNN introducing Grandpa, breaking out all of the guilt cards(He was a POW, Grandpa's experience, Obama chillin with terrorists, etc.) to their angry, all white, flame, rope and pitch fork holding audience. It's scary. Thanks GOP, for these two MESSAGE-LESS stacks of shit.
Did you see the sign in the audience that said Unborn babies for McCain.
Pop, her 15 minutes of fame are almost up.
I hope so. Send her back to Alaska and leave her there. This morning on Morning Joe they were talking about if McCain lost, Palin would most likely run for president in four years. Give me a break!
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/102094/sar...
Sarah Palin: The Living Embodiment Of Everything That Has Gone Wrong With America in the Past 35 Years.
[Excerpt] After her “liberating” performance in last Thursday’s VP debate, you are witnessing the resurrection of Sarah. She walks and talks the election trail like her shit doesn’t stink. The problem is this reinvigorated Sarah is sounding more and more like she is campaigning in Germany 1933 for the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei rather than Grand Old Party in America 2008.
[Excerpt] I have had enough of this Brownshirt in high heels and phony glasses (yes Palin thinks she is Sally Jesse Raphael and wears non-prescription glasses for the ‘look’) . The last few days of the enlightened Sarah Palin seems lifted straight from the last few days of the collapsing Weimar Republic. Palin scares the hell out of me - she is reckless, she is dangerous, she is ruthless and now she is (in her own warped mind) omnipotent.
[Excerpt] In Sarah Palin we truly have become the American Idol nation --- shallow, empty, a joke, void of all compassion - and lacking in any talent. If she keeps this pace up for the next month, Palin may ultimately become Miss anti-Congeniality - the most loathsome person in America.
POP, The wingnut era in the GOP is coming to a close.
Let's put aside the Democratic sweep in November for a moment.
The GOP has alot of reconstruction to do. The GOP is ripped to pieces. McCain's candidacy and how it was handled is a clear indication of that. Palin represents the extreme wing. She is out on the stump saying whatever she wants about Obama, cause she feels that she's insulated herself from the press, and there's no short term impact on her political career. You are going to see a fight in the right wing of GOP as long time vets like Huckabee and Romney find that they now have to deal with Palin. She may WANT to run for President...but they are going to have alot to say about it.
On the other side of the party are big business...who is thoroughly pissed off because McCain has not sided with them during the financial crisis...although the bill did get passed...he has called them crooks. They are none too happy with the exremee wing of the GOP, as big business is not interested in "social and family values" issues.
You also have the neocon wing...and the fiscal conservative wing. All with candidates of their own, all with their own darlings and agendas. Yes, the GOP has a REAL problem. It is easy to keep everyone under control when you have power....out of power...the blame game and the finger pointing start.
Yee HAH!
Obama sez he gonna go into Pakistan and "take out" Bin Laden - wiv o' wivout them rags' permission.
Get 'em cowboy.
Lez go in an' kill the sucker.
That'll straighten evything out.
Yee HAH!
A no win situation and you know it. If he had acted passive and suggested diplomacy in Pakistan, clowns like you would have crawled out of the cracks and labeled him "soft".
Why Obamabots have to be so testy is bizarre.
No one is asking for passivity.
A little intelligence and respect for others would be welcome.
Obama is endorsing Bush's current policy.
Bush bombs "suspected" terrorists.
He kills everyone around them as well. Including children.
Pakistan was our greatest ally in the region.
Now they hate us.
And they DO have nuclear weapons.
Obama, needlessly, is endorsing this stupidity.
He could have said he urgently wanted to work with the new government of Pakistan.
WTF is "soft" about that?
But no. He is instead defending his own bellicose right-wing stupidity on this issue.
He, superman, is going to kill Bin Laden for us. Bring us his head. That'll cure our problems.
Phooey. Obama has been wobbling between saying something reasonably intelligent and kissing
the asses of the American fascists.
He was wrong to suggest going into Pakistan without the consent of the Pakistani government. Period.
The ISI has been running the Taliban and giving cover to Al Qaeda for decades now. Who do you think was behind the bombing of the Indian Embassy in Kabul?
I was speaking of Pakistan's help after 9/11.
So can we take your comment as tacit admission that NOT chasing bin Laden was the wrong thing to do?
When John McCain chastises Obama for announcing that he is about to attack our enemies, is he advocating sneak attacks on other countries? Does pearl Harbor come to mind?
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This incident got much play. To hear John McCain telling Barack Obama thank you just before Obama zapped him was worth it weight in gold. Actually much of last night's debate confirmed just how outclassed McCain really is.
You can call me racist or say I am injecting race into this debate, but I can't help but feel, if McCain could of called Obama a "boy" or N_gger he would of did just that. Hearing Sarah Palin on the campaign trial making reference to Obama not being "one of us" set in motion all kinds of race flags. When you add John McCain's reference to not taking any advice from some Chicago politicians, the race flag becomes twice as racist in an unspoken coded way.
This is getting nasty, and it does not have to be. The MSM is making McCain's case "he has to go negative to save his campaign." It angers me to see the media get away with making everything either or in nature. Sometimes problems have more then two answers to them. With all the brains McCain and the media claim they have, do you think they can come up with a third less offensive alternative to McCain's dilemma? Not that I really want him to find the solution. I don't. I really don't think I can go through 4 years of Palin's voice.
Joseph
McCain thought he was being cute or clever. He doesn't seem to know that he is neither.
That was a great moment. About time somebody brought that up. Obama should be using that clip of McCain singing in his ads.
Obama can't use the clip of McCain singing "bomb Iran" because Obama keeps calling Iran a great threat and wants bombing it to be "on the table". If they get into any serious discussion it will reveal that they hold identical views.
They're all nuts.
Let us all remember that the irony that Fred Fassert, author of the song "Barbara Ann", is Iranian. He wrote the song about his sister.
McCain is still fixated on the long debunked 'wipe Israel off the map' misquote, yet the MSM never corrects this lie.
These articles blow out of the water any notion that Iran intends to destroy Israel...if only the media would get a clue
http://www.mohammadmossadegh.com/news/rumor-o...
http://www.mohammadmossadegh.com/news/caught-...
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