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President Obama gave a great speech yesterdat that was well received by the Notre Dame campus. The movement against a woman's right to live her life was the focal point for the pro-birthers, but Obama handled it with his charm and wit. I do not like the way the pro-choice movement has been portrayed, nor do I like the way the Democratic Party treats the pro-life movement, but Obama handled the speech at the Notre Dame commencement well. I suppoose it's the best we could hope for.

I do not agree with a lot of what's been coming out of the Beltway on this issue and many others, but the whining over this speech was ridiculous. The leader of the nation suddenly is not supposed to give a speech at Notre Dame because ... ?

Maybe we won’t agree on abortion, but we can still agree that this is a heart-wrenching decision for any woman to make, with both moral and spiritual dimensions. So let’s work together to reduce the number of women seeking abortions by reducing unintended pregnancies, and making adoption more available, and providing care and support for women who do carry their child to term. Let’s honor the conscience of those who disagree with abortion, and draft a sensible conscience clause, and make sure that all of our health care policies are grounded in clear ethics and sound science, as well as respect for the equality of women.” Understand – I do not suggest that the debate surrounding abortion can or should go away. No matter how much we may want to fudge it – indeed, while we know that the views of most Americans on the subject are complex and even contradictory – the fact is that at some level, the views of the two camps are irreconcilable. Each side will continue to make its case to the public with passion and conviction. But surely we can do so without reducing those with differing views to caricature. Open hearts. Open minds. Fair-minded words.

It’s a way of life that has always been the Notre Dame tradition. Father Hesburgh has long spoken of this institution as both a lighthouse and a crossroads. The lighthouse that stands apart, shining with the wisdom of the Catholic tradition, while the crossroads is where “…differences of culture and religion and conviction can co-exist with friendship, civility, hospitality, and especially love.” And I want to join him and Father

Jenkins in saying how inspired I am by the maturity and responsibility with which this class has approached the debate surrounding today’s ceremony. This tradition of cooperation and understanding is one that I learned in my own life many years ago – also with the help of the Catholic Church. I was not raised in a particularly religious household, but my mother instilled in me a sense of service and empathy that eventually led me to become a community organizer after I graduated college. A group of Catholic churches in Chicago helped fund an organization known as the Developing Communities Project, and we worked to lift up South Side neighborhoods that had been devastated when the local steel plant closed.

It was quite an eclectic crew. Catholic and Protestant churches. Jewish and African-American organizers. Working-class black and white and Hispanic residents. All of us with different experiences. All of us with different beliefs. But all of us learned to work side by side because all of us saw in these neighborhoods other human beings who needed our help – to find jobs and improve schools. We were bound together in the service of others. And something else happened during the time I spent in those neighborhoods. Perhaps because the church folks I worked with were so welcoming and understanding; perhaps because they invited me to their services and sang with me from their hymnals; perhaps because I witnessed all of the good works their faith inspired them to perform, I found myself drawn – not just to work with the church, but to be in the church. It was through this service that I was brought to Christ.

At the time, Cardinal Joseph Bernardin was the Archbishop of Chicago. For those of you too young to have known him, he was a kind and good and wise man. A saintly man. I can still remember him speaking at one of the first organizing meetings I attended on the South Side. He stood as both a lighthouse and a crossroads – unafraid to speak his mind on moral issues ranging from poverty, AIDS, and abortion to the death penalty and nuclear war. And yet, he was congenial and gentle in his persuasion, always trying to bring people together; always trying to find common ground. Just before he died, a reporter asked Cardinal Bernardin about this approach to his ministry. And he said, “You can’t really get on with preaching the Gospel until you’ve touched minds and hearts.” My heart and mind were touched by the words and deeds of the men and women I worked alongside with in Chicago. And I’d like to think that we touched the hearts and minds of the neighborhood families whose lives we helped change. For this, I believe, is our highest calling.

You are about to enter the next phase of your life at a time of great uncertainty. You will be called upon to help restore a free market that is also fair to all who are willing to work; to seek new sources of energy that can save our planet; to give future generations the same chance that you had to receive an extraordinary education. And whether as a person drawn to public service, or someone who simply insists on being an active citizen, you will be exposed to more opinions and ideas broadcast through more means of communications than have ever existed before. You will hear talking heads scream on cable, read blogs that claim definitive knowledge, and watch politicians pretend to know what they’re talking about.

Occasionally, you may also have the great fortune of seeing important issues debated by well-intentioned, brilliant minds. In fact, I suspect that many of you will be among those bright stars.
In this world of competing claims about what is right and what is true, have confidence in the values with which you’ve been raised and educated. Be unafraid to speak your mind when those values are at stake. Hold firm to your faith and allow it to guide you on your journey. Stand as a lighthouse. But remember too that the ultimate irony of faith is that it necessarily admits doubt. It is the belief in things not seen. It is beyond our capacity as human beings to know with certainty what God has planned for us or what He asks of us, and those of us who believe must trust that His wisdom is greater than our own.

This doubt should not push us away from our faith. But it should humble us. It should temper our passions, and cause us to be wary of self-righteousness. It should compel us to remain open, and curious, and eager to continue the moral and spiritual debate that began for so many of you within the walls of Notre Dame. And within our vast democracy, this doubt should remind us to persuade through reason, through an appeal whenever we can to universal rather than parochial principles, and most of all through an abiding example of good works, charity, kindness, and service that moves hearts and minds.

For if there is one law that we can be most certain of, it is the law that binds people of all faiths and no faith together. It is no coincidence that it exists in Christianity and Judaism; in Islam and Hinduism; in Buddhism and humanism. It is, of course, the Golden Rule – the call to treat one another as we wish to be treated. The call to love. To serve. To do what we can to make a difference in the lives of those with whom we share the same brief moment on this Earth. So many of you at Notre Dame – by the last count, upwards of 80% -- have lived this law of love through the service you’ve performed at schools and hospitals; international relief agencies and local charities. That is incredibly impressive, and a powerful testament to this institution. Now you must carry the tradition forward. Make it a way of life. Because when you serve, it doesn’t just improve your community, it makes you a part of your community. It breaks down walls. It fosters cooperation. And when that happens – when people set aside their differences to work in common effort toward a common good; when they struggle together, and sacrifice together, and learn from one another – all things are possible.

After all, I stand here today, as President and as an African-American, on the 55th anniversary of the day that the Supreme Court handed down the decision in Brown v. the Board of Education. Brown was of course the first major step in dismantling the “separate but equal” doctrine, but it would take a number of years and a nationwide movement to fully realize the dream of civil rights for all of God’s children. There were freedom rides and lunch counters and Billy clubs, and there was also a Civil Rights Commission appointed by President Eisenhower. It was the twelve resolutions recommended by this commission that would ultimately become law in the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

There were six members of the commission. It included five whites and one African-American; Democrats and Republicans; two Southern governors, the dean of a Southern law school, a Midwestern university president, and your own Father Ted Hesburgh, President of Notre Dame. They worked for two years, and at times, President Eisenhower had to intervene personally since no hotel or restaurant in the South would serve the black and white members of the commission together. Finally, when they reached an impasse in Louisiana, Father Ted flew them all to Notre Dame’s retreat in Land O’Lakes, Wisconsin, where they eventually overcame their differences and hammered out a final deal.

Years later, President Eisenhower asked Father Ted how on Earth he was able to broker an agreement between men of such different backgrounds and beliefs. And Father Ted simply said that during their first dinner in Wisconsin, they discovered that they were all fishermen. And so he quickly readied a boat for a twilight trip out on the lake. They fished, and they talked, and they changed the course of history.

I will not pretend that the challenges we face will be easy, or that the answers will come quickly, or that all our differences and divisions will fade happily away. Life is not that simple. It never has been. But as you leave here today, remember the lessons of Cardinal Bernardin, of Father Hesburgh, of movements for change both large and small. Remember that each of us, endowed with the dignity possessed by all children of God, has the grace to recognize ourselves in one another; to understand that we all seek the same love of family and the same fulfillment of a life well-lived. Remember that in the end, we are all fishermen. If nothing else, that knowledge should give us faith that through our collective labor, and God’s providence, and our willingness to shoulder each other’s burdens, America will continue on its precious journey towards that more perfect union. Congratulations on your graduation, may God Bless you, and may God Bless the United States of America.



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It was a great speech, I'm sure the graduates will always remember it. Obama also handled the hecklers early on with class. Great speech.

-BTW, Jeff Sessions (Racist-AL) is laying the groundwork for justifying a filibuster:
http://yellingatthemoon.com/2009/05/18/republ...

I thought so too. It is especially good not to see W on stage anymore. Gawd I hated to see that guy and it was worse listening to him.

Were the hecklers arrested and violently thrown out as they were when George Putz appeared?

Or their degrees taken away from them, and not granted, as happened when Ohio State students "turned their backs on Bush"?

Somehow, I doubt it.

Obama rocks Notre Dame.

I hear he's giving a pretty good rockin' to Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq too.

You are truly a well trained(brainwashed) righty dude. You just bunny hop from one subject to another until you reach a matter Obama is still trying deal with. There will always be something you can get the President on. It will take a long time...if at all, to correct Bush's multitude of fuck ups. BTW, you're full of shit...as usual.

)O(

Yes he did.
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I am one very proud Notre Dame alum AND President Obama constituent today. I was remembering my own ND Commencement 13 years ago with nostalgia, and I was so, so proud that the graduates this year were able to enjoy their graduation and be part of this historic event with little disruption. I don't begrudge the protesters their right to protest, but the President handled it so well by calling everyone out--on both sides--and asking us all to have open minds and hearts and not demonize the other side. I said much the same in a letter I wrote to Father Jenkins when this "controversy" erupted: I applauded him for standing by his decision to invite Pres. Obama, and I expressed my hope that this can lead to dialogue and mutual respect rather than yelling over each other and effectively stomping out of the room in a huff (as Mary Ann Glendon metaphorically did).

be booked into Liberty and Regents U.

Even though the "protesters" were completely drowned out, it was still sad to see some of the educated young people on the verge of beginning their professional careers as disingenuous hypocrites. Once ND gave the lazy, worthless, Christian mass murderer and execution loving Bush an honorary degree in 2001, all subsequent bets should have been off.

and their football team sucks, too.

its certainly true, they should have been arrested , waterboarded ,nutered at the very least, its past time for freedom of speach, the time is ripe for the new rapes of the constitution ! eh?snarky poo

and utter bullshit...

There is a category of things that are, by their very nature, all-or-nothing.

Pregnancy (and abortion)
War
Death penalty

No "compromise," no "bargain" is possible:

Either a woman has control of her own reproduction or she doesn't.
Either you are at war or you aren't.
Either there are capital crimes or there are none.

There's no middle ground there, no room for compromise.

One mans war is another mans law enforcement action.

How about if both sides do their damnest to educate kids and teach them about birth control of all sort? The goal being many fewer unwanted pregnancies and a much lesser demand for abortions. That would be a beginning wouldn't it?

Because one side--we know from experience--will never go along with that kind of 'education' in schools and never even contemplate it at home...

The pro choice side would love to educate kids about sex and contraceptives, it would decrease the need for abortions. Unfortunately those against freedom of choice are also against education. Even though their children need it the worst.

"Understand – I do not suggest that the debate surrounding abortion can or should go away. No matter how much we may want to fudge it – indeed, while we know that the views of most Americans on the subject are complex and even contradictory – the fact is that at some level, the views of the two camps are irreconcilable."

I didn't see that statement as calling for a middle ground on abortion. Just asking that the debate be conducted with "Open hearts. Open minds. Fair-minded words."

And the President of the United States gave a speech on abortion? What the hell does abortion have to do with young people graduating?

she would have not only given them a new car for graduation,
she would have forgiven their student loans.

is that all you got out of the speech? You are a turd.

...feelings concerning abortion on the Graduates, disrupting the ceremony for his personal aggrandizment. You just want to be dishonest.

The biggest media play on his speech concerns abortion. What the hell does abortion have to do with these people graduating? Why don't you pretend liberal partisan Dems create your own version of RedState. You all sound almost identical to them, except your versions are not about elephants but making jackasses of yourselves. I apologize. Long live his mighty saviour Obama. Feel better, you grovelling donkey asskissing rejects?

Or Dobbs and Trancedo will be chasing you mother fuckers back up north.

You think Corporate Obama is going to do anything with NAFTA? Hahahaha. Ya right, and I suppose so is Bubba Clinton as soon as he's done hosing down a dress. Delusional Dems are as bad as delusional Repubs. Except with Repubs, they call it like they see it. With Dems, they PRETEND to be liberal and progressive.

You've posted some outrageous comments in your time but that's beyond the pale.

still a bit tight assed from that long winter. I thought climate change made you Canadians warm up sooner. Guess not.

Didn't you see all the protesting about the President being pro choice and how many of the Catholics didn't want him to get the degree because of his stance on abortion? He tackled the differences head on and gave his take on the subject. I thought he did a hell of a job of bringing up the differences and trying to open up a civil conversation for the pro choice and the anti abortion people.

If you object to abortions, don't have one.

Otherwise, shut the fuck up...

Okay, two sentences...so sioux me...

PoP

He's a dishonest hack. He managed to make it to the internet and he can pound on a keyboard. He either is choosing to be ignorant or just trying to pick a fight. I'm guessing it's his same old schtick which is coming here and berating Americans, probably while flogging himself. It must be nice to just hang out in a nation that does nothing, invents nothing, doesn't advance the discussion and then sit around and criticize.

but I like this President. He has presence and intelligence.

I don't have to agree with my President all the time, but I do want to be proud that my President represents my country well.

He's offering much the same position as the Clintons did. One problem before this audience is that you "can't" offer women contraception, because, well, that's contra naturem, "against nature." So the advice, in strictly Catholic terms, is chastity. We know how well that works.

Which is always 100% effective.

For them it's just one more way or rounding up support for their corruption. The same goes to gay marriage, racism against anyone who is non-white and war. They couldn't care less if people suffer or if someone dies, but if they stir these feelling into sheeps that follow them so they can make money, so be it. If a sick poor child is dying on a curb, being legal, they would be the first to grab a rock and bash into their skulls to get rid of them. Don't delete this post, I, not crooks and liars am responsible for my words, and it's not a cheap attack, it's the awful truth.

I heard some idiot call into Rush Limpballs today, saying that he was at his daughter's graduation at ND. He was bemoaning the fact that Obama was giving the commencement speech and also bemoaning the fact that ND no longer sticks with its high moral grounds but instead encourages people to "give back," and to participate in serving others. (I mean, WTF?)

He said something to the effect that the young woman who gave the valedictorian speech said that she was proud to have given back by working for some Catholic organization in Haiti.....and this idiot caller said that the last time he heard about this organization, it was associated with communists.

This guy also claimed that nearly 30% of those in attendance at the graduation sat in silent protest to Obama!

Jesus H. Christ. These morons think that you are only a "good" Christian/Catholic if you learn the Catholicism dogma.....and even good works, if they are associated with those dirty, filthy, evil commies, are not good enough. WTF? What the heck is wrong with people like this?

Did he ever mention how proud he was of his daughter graduating? Did he mention how proud he was of what she had accomplished and how much he loved her?

I really don't think he did. I do think he mentioned that his daughter was one of the silent protesters.

All he really seemed concerned about was how ND has lost its Catholic morals and how it apparently is somehow "bad" to give back, especially to what this guy thinks is a commie organization.

Was he really a father with a daughter graduating from ND? Rush's show is faker than pro wrestling.(Apologees to Former Gov. Ventura.)

Why did he pony up the big bucks to send his daughter there then??!!

Amazing - Jesus taught to disavow material wealth; he hung out with hookers, lepers, and the down-trodden; he asked that you love your neighbor as you love yourself; he said "I was hungry and you fed me; he also said "I was sick and you cared for me."

So, in essence, this moron was saying everything Jesus taught is bad because 'giving back is bad'. LOL - These mental giants haven't a CLUE, and are so PROUD of their cluelessness. It's funny as hell, but, at the same time, very sad. How do these people function, relatively unscathed, in everyday life?

On another note, Obama ROCKED ND!!

It's a good chance that the 30% was right. Local surveys before graduation put the graduates at a 70-30 split in favor of Obama. The protesters were supposedly putting crosses on top of their caps.

Not surprising that they wouldn't like giving back, after all most of them could care less what happens to the kid after it's born.

the separation of church and state only matters to Democratic Party members, when the party in power is Republican, huh?

Church of England at the same time.

Did

you ride the short bus, or do you just actively seek to attempt to point out inconsistencies that aren't there? I don't think Obama took communion, did he? I don't think he said anything like, "all you people out there better become Catholic because it's the only religion."

Maybe you missed the part (understandable due to your selective retention abilities) but, http://newsinfo.nd.edu/news/11293-president-o...
will explain to you that Obama is the 9th, count em, 9 in all, US president to receive an honorary degree from Notre Dame.

I can't speak for all here, but my issue with separation of church and state was the last regimes blurring of the line, not the fact that Bush spoke at a religious-based university's commencement.

If you truly believe that an atheist could be elected to the Presidency in the U.S., then I think you aren't seeing America from your porch. In a poll, atheism was the single issue people reacted most strongly negative to, well in front of race or sexual preference.

I am not an evangelical atheist, like Bill Mahar, but I was surprised when Obama referenced "people who follow no religion" in a speech without any negative connotation. That was a relief to me, since it's much easier to just mumble and walk away rather than explain to someone that, even without worshiping an invisible sky-daddy, I can still live a useful and non-Satanic life.

I loved the speech, what can i say i love most his speeches... He seems to go out of his way to include everyone, even if it may make some people uncomfortable, he knows that it’s worth it, because there's an atheist somewhere that just felt like his president was representing his views, how many times did that happen under Bush??? or any president??? obama is a leader of all americans, and I love him for it.

Of American politics. You can't get elected in this country if you don't address religious organizations.

...Charter of Rights and Freedoms which allows the Federal and Provincial governments to opt out of the portions of the Charter that deal with:
*fundamental freedoms of religion, speech, the press, free assembly and association

and

*guarantees of equality?

Do I see a hand being raised, Canada?

Whose head of state has "Defender of the Faith" in their title?

USA? No, I think not. Canada, am I seeing your hand again?

"but we can still agree that this is a heart-wrenching decision for any woman to make, with both moral and spiritual dimensions." No we can't. For me it was an easy medical decision.

second kid,abortion would be as legal as a beer.

certainly is an excellent speaker. But, I think perhaps he should have been a preacher instead of a politician. It seems to me that he cannot resolve the contradictions between his religious/spiritual/moral need to be helpful to humanity with his equally compelling need for power and wealth. If he'd chosen the 'high road' and stayed out of politics, I think he would have emerged as a truly great world leader.....one for the People.

Poor FOX News must be very disappointed that their campaign against Obama by way of Notre Dame failed so miserably.

The camera on Fox zoomed around until they found about four people who had the cross and baby's feet on the top of their cap. It seemed there were more who had the obama logo circle on theirs.

,,, when John King asked that girl to show it was a top view of someone peeing.

time (8 years) of dipshit trying to speek english.
Now we have Presence and Intelligence. some thing bush will never have.

well you got to give these kids credit ,mom and daddy money bought them the best education money can buy , now that graduations over most of them can get back to the few jobs left ,flipping burgers at micky ds!

I am personally against abortion but I am very much pro-choice. I am also an atheist.

End of story...

@ POPatricia.

Nooooo, wrong angle, they WANT ignorant kids that get pregnant at 13. More cannon fodder for the rich's glorious wars. Of course, don't ask the war pigs to PAY for any of these unwanted children until they're draftable, that's the proles job.

Oh, abortion.

Either a woman owns her own body, or we are all slaves.

He knows how to use the bully pulpit. If he would just use it for single-payer healthcare or for bringing the crimials of the former regime to justice, he could be very effective at building/changing public opinion.

I can't help but think that, despite the sincerity of rank and file in the anti-abortion crowd, that they are being exploited and played as just so many useful idiots. They have been incited into demanding the overturn of Roe v. Wade, principally by their clergy. I think that much of the clergy, in it's turn, has been manipulated by dreams and promises of power, even if it only is over their flock. The clergy has eagerly arisen to accept the challenge, but there is a significant aspect to their collective action that comes across as them only grasping at any chance that presents itself to consolidate their control over those who fall under their influence. Who would be orchestrating that manipulation? To my thinking, probably PNAC types and conservative politicians who recognize a gravy train that rolls on biscuit wheels when they see one, and who recognize that self-righteousness, especially when tied to the promise of power, makes the task of accomplishing a manipulation much easier than it would otherwise be.

And the motive? I think that what is behind much of the manipulation of the religious community is that Roe v. Wade was decided based on rights to privacy. That the decision granted women the right to choose and control what happens with their bodies was almost a side benefit, born out of the right of privacy about their bodies and lives. In granting a specific exercise of a particular right to privacy, the right to choose was also conferred. However, the ruling inherently granted privacy rights that extend beyond the immediate issues of abortion and a woman's right to choose. The implications of the ruling are very broad as regards all rights to privacy, implying new rights and reinforcing others. As such, the decision represented a blow to those who would stand against all other rights; in a very real way, the ruling stands as an impediment to the march of totalitarianism. No permanent harm can be done to a liberal democracy so long as the right to privacy is alive and well. Any who would degrade such a system or convert it to something less must first do all they can to nullify the right, however that right might be made manifest. For those who would do such a thing, the overturn of Roe v. Wade would be a must-achieve objective.

Who gains most if Roe v. Wade is overturned? The religious? All they get is something they can feel good about. To them, that may be a tangible accomplishment. But, the neocons and those who have generally demonstrated that they are hostile to the idea of a free populace living within their own liberal democracy, the would-be self-appointed elites? They make a quantum leap forward in realizing their dark dreams, because they undo a very broad protection that benefits all members of our society, not just the women.

The issue of freedom of choice versus pro-life does not, to my eyes, appear to be as simple a matter as it appears on the surface. It is more a matter of freedom to choose, born of broad protections regarding multiple rights to privacy, versus the denial of choice, based upon denial and negation of those same rights. For that reason alone, while acknowledging all other related issues, I think that it is an important, even vital, thing to protect the specific right and the implied rights that were granted by Roe v. Wade.

I truly think you are over analyzing it.

At it's core it's the battle of the sexes. Women have been looked upon as property for most of humanity's existence. If you notice the majority of the pro-life dictators are men, not women. I always phrase it as "how dare a woman refuse to carry the seed of a man".

Control: Today on the local newspaper's chat forum one of the wack jobs stated that the dictators have to be prepared to give up their lives to save the babies. I'd lay good odds that if it ever came to that, this wack job would still be alive after all of his followers were dead. Some people get off on seeing people do as they wish.

Money!: On the news it was told that it cost $38,000 to send letters to the alumni. The plane they've been polluting our skies with daily cost another $46,000 and was still flying around today. Who wants to bet that Randall Terry took at least the equivalent amount home with him? Religiously drugged fools and their money are soon separated.

hearing a president speak in an environment where he might be disagreed with. All of Bush's speeches were attended by nutcases who'd sworn allegiance or military who would be punished for heckling.

There is no such thing as a "Pro-life" movement. It implies, that those that are "pro-choice" are "anti-life", "pro-death" or "pro-abortion". It might just be semantics, but it buys into the whole right-wing buzz word meme. Call it what it is: Choice and anti-choice.

PS, sorry, this is not mean as a reply.

That's what I've been saying for years now.. It's not pro-life it's anti-choice :)

I've been calling them dictators. Drives them insane.

One thing I've never understood about Catholics. They claim to be anti-choice when it comes both abortion and contraception. Isn't there some kind of serious disconnect there? That's like saying they are pro-life, and also pro-death penalty. Or claiming to be pro-Christian, and pro-torture (although Christ would have probably forgiven the torturers while condemning their actions, and the torture apologists would like to condemn the torturers while supporting the policy). I think I would make a terrible modern American Christianist, because my head would explode trying to contain all the contradictions.

Was what the speech was all about.

This man has a stronger grasp of the core values of religion than George (killer) Bush ever dreamed of. He makes me so glad that the 8-year Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld nightmare is finally over.

im sorry, but i dont trust anyone who says that they came to god at the age of 41

so georgie got to party his life away, then when he realized he needed to grow up and win elections, he found god....way too fucking convenient

there are very few real christians who reside in the united states

the real christians do not wear their religion on their sleeves

religionists like bush and his cabal live a life of cognitive dissonace...that leads them to start holy wars and shove their bs down everyone elses throat

of the politicization of a women's right to choose; to have or not have an abortion is a medical issue a woman must deal with, plain and simple. It's a private matter that religion and State should keep their noses out of.

"So let’s work together to reduce the number of women seeking abortions by reducing unintended pregnancies, and making adoption more available, and providing care and support for women who do carry their child to term."

WhyTF is he the first politician I have ever heard address the real issue, even if only in passing?

If there were no unwanted pregnancies, there would be no abortions.

because it is a necessary MEDICAL PROCEDURE. Why do you assume that only unintended pregnancies result in abortion? Many women require or choose an abortion rather than hoping and waiting for her body to do what it is supposed to on its own - reject a non-viable, but very much wanted/planned pregnancy. If there was no abortion procedures conducted, products of a failed pregnancy may be retained in the uterus and cause infection, sterilization, and even death.

Clearly you misread my words either carelessness or poor education. Or you were trying to misconstrue them.

Mother's health in danger - unwanted
Rape and incest - unwanted
Poverty - unwanted
Accident by failed contraceptive - unwanted
Pregnancy through careless sex - unwanted

If there's another category, I can't name it. Unless, of course, you're suggesting that women are deliberately getting pregnant so they can have an abortion.

I had an abortion procedure when my health wasn't in danger. The heart stopped beating. I didn't want to miscarry at home like I had before because it was a horrendous experience. Do you know a way to prevent pregnancy demise? Missed miscarriage-wanted. How's that category man (just a guess and a hope- women aren't usually so fucking smug about abortion)?

I'm not trying to misconstrue shit. I'm saying that abortion needs be thought of more medically than politically. It is also painful for women's failed pregnancies to be labeled as unwanted. Also,women who's lives are in danger often times choose to risk their life for the baby. For those who choose to abort, do you think it is because their pregnancy was unwanted? You sir are the ignorant one.

The vast majority can agree with Prez Obama trying to reduce pregnacies, so there are no abortions, but then there are a small amount of protesters who are too ignorant and hate filled to get it. These people shouldn't be allowed in a Catholic college in the first place with their unwillingness to accept and love which God wants us to do to be good Catholics.

because it is a necessary MEDICAL PROCEDURE.

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