"At least Bush kept us safe," is the war cry from conservatives whenever they try to find something good to say about the Bush Administration and their eight disastrous years of rule. They forget about everything that came before Sept. 11th apparently. That's not supposed to count. It's true that it's difficult to keep a nation completely safe and it's hard to assign blame, but let's not forget that George Tenet seemed to know a little about who the hijackers were after we found out who hit us.

According to the Washington Post’s Bob Woodward, on the morning of 9/11, as aides rushed over to George Tenet’s table at the St. Regis Hotel restaurant to tell him the news of the World Trade Center strike, the CIA director was overheard to say: “I wonder if it has anything to do with this guy taking pilot training.”

That being said, the media is very afraid to ever bring the facts up that Richard Clarke pointed it out in the Washington Post in a column called: The Trauma of 9/11 Is No Excuse

Top officials from the Bush administration have hit upon a revealing new theme as they retrospectively justify their national security policies. Call it the White House 9/11 trauma defense.

"Unless you were there, in a position of responsibility after September 11, you cannot possibly imagine the dilemmas that you faced in trying to protect Americans," Condoleezza Rice said last month as she admonished a Stanford University student who questioned the Bush-era interrogation program. And in his May 21 speech on national security, Dick Cheney called the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, a "defining" experience that "caused everyone to take a serious second look" at the threats to America. Critics of the administration have become more intense as memories of the attacks have faded, he argued. "Part of our responsibility, as we saw it," Cheney said, "was not to forget the terrible harm that had been done to America."

I remember that morning, too. Shortly after the second World Trade Center tower was hit, I burst in on Rice (then the president's national security adviser) and Cheney in the vice president's office and remember glimpsing horror on his face. Once in the bomb shelter, Cheney assembled his team while the crisis managers on the National Security Council staff coordinated the government response by video conference from the Situation Room. Many of us thought that we might not leave the White House alive. I remember the next day, too, when smoke still rose from the Pentagon as I sat in my office in the White House compound, a gas mask on my desk. The streets of Washington were empty, except for the armored vehicles, and the skies were clear, except for the F-15s on patrol. Every scene from those days is seared into my memory. I understand how it was a defining moment for Cheney, as it was for so many Americans.

Yet listening to Cheney and Rice, it seems that they want to be excused for the measures they authorized after the attacks on the grounds that 9/11 was traumatic. "If you were there in a position of authority and watched Americans drop out of eighty-story buildings because these murderous tyrants went after innocent people," Rice said in her recent comments, "then you were determined to do anything that you could that was legal to prevent that from happening again."

I have little sympathy for this argument. Yes, we went for days with little sleep, and we all assumed that more attacks were coming. But the decisions that Bush officials made in the following months and years -- on Iraq, on detentions, on interrogations, on wiretapping -- were not appropriate. Careful analysis could have replaced the impulse to break all the rules, even more so because the Sept. 11 attacks, though horrifying, should not have surprised senior officials. Cheney's admission that 9/11 caused him to reassess the threats to the nation only underscores how, for months, top officials had ignored warnings from the CIA and the NSC staff that urgent action was needed to preempt a major al-Qaeda attack.

Thus, when Bush's inner circle first really came to grips with the threat of terrorism, they did so in a state of shock -- a bad state in which to develop a coherent response. Fearful of new attacks, they authorized the most extreme measures available, without assessing whether they were really a good idea...read on

I've talk to Digby many times about this and she brought up the Cuban Missile Crisis and what would Bush and Cheney have done if it had happened under their watch instead of Kennedy's. Would we all still be standing here today?

Digby writes about Clarke's article:

I have been desperate for someone other than bloggers to say this for years. Here's Richard Clark:...

Despite all of Cheney's attempts at redemption and the ongoing conservative insistence that their policies "kept the country safe" the truth is that they behaved hysterically and irrationally after the attacks and reinforced every bad American stereotype in existence. Because of their blindered conservative worldview, they simply assumed that anything that had been done by someone other than the airbrushed version of Ronald Reagan had to be wrong and that anything other than schoolyard bully tactics were a form of weakness.

It's true that 9/11 did present an opportunity. America could have shown mature and intelligent global leadership. But it didn't. It behaved like a wounded adolescent giant, its leadership carrying on with "bullhorn moments" and talk of wanted posters and playing cards while an irresponsible media entertained the masses with war porn.

It was an embarrassing --- and dangerous --- display. If there was ever a time for the leadership of this country to play it cool it was then. And they failed the test in almost every way. Good for Richard Clark for calling them out on this.



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the reaction if it was a truly big terrorist attack and not just two planes into buildings! I shudder to think of the police state that would have caused. You would have government spying on it's citizen's emails and phone calls, talk of erecting border fences, predator drones patrolling borders, invasions of innocent nations.......oh wait.....

CC! How's it going?
Missed you!

Been ill. For quite some time actually. I think it's the Bank Flu. Serious question for ya. What happened to all the progressive liberals that used to post on here? Where did they all go? Why have they all been replaced with the Dem version of Republican loyalists? What happened to this great site?

Hope you're doing better :)

btw, where is tyree? I haven't seen him around lately.

Tyree received at the hands of the "liberal progressives" on here was disgusting. Wouldn't blame him if he chose to leave. Some have turned into Dempublicans, making excuse after excuse for every broken promise, and every policy shift. Some blogs, Dems have stated that they are glad he isn't "pandering to the leftwing" of the party, because it would hurt his re-election chances. Can you imagine? The subject being discussed? His backtracking on Bushies torture policies and looking forward. Unreal.
Thanks Calgarylady. I actually am not feeling better. Someone on here posted it, and I actually agree. The left blogs are all changing. The fight for progressives and liberal ideals is disappearing and being replaced with Dempublicanism.

I wouldn't blame tyree for leaving either. The way he was treated here by so-called progressives on a liberal site was very disappointing.

Plus, tyree's a war veteran. His opinion matters to me.

Tyree posted last night I recall .. or perhaps the night before ..

Being outside so much these days, I don't have time to read all the threads.

lol ..

Great - Spring has finally found you.

Actually it was slow starting down here too.

Despite many really warm days the temps dropped just below freezing May 18th. Killed a bunch of wild black raspberrie blossoms. Darn!

I'm out most daylight hours myself .. try to catch up in the evening & late night.

That's brutal. It's good to know there are others with their own weather horror stories ... :)

I'm in Pittsfield, Massachusetts and we are expecting a "KILLER FROST" tonight and in New York etc.

I just spent 20 minutes hauling in all my little plant babies so they'll survive.

Spread the word to all your gardener friends in the Northeast!!

May your cosmos, tomatoes and gardens survive the onslaught! The weather is wacky everywhere.

btw, my fave plant is Canna Lily :)

:waves hands: Hey, some of us are still here!

Ironically though, most of us crazy left loons seem to be Canadians of one sort or another. Figures...

Yep, we're the crazy left loonies!

Such a polite crazy, that's all that's left.
And with the dollar going up we'll soon be 1.1 loonies.

I was having a conversation the other day with a co-worker who said that America wants Obama to be a mix of Lincoln & Kennedy. It occurred to me that someone like Trudeau would make more sense.

He helped Canada move from an imperial mindset to a multicultural one & he was a rock star in his own way. The difference was that he was an NDPer in Liberal drag - he pushed & pulled the country to the left & made it seem cool to be a conscience rather than a cop.

Although that whole War Measures Act thing might not be too popular with a lot of lefties.

and I'm still here.

Sorry to hear you've been ill cc. Hope you get better.

What happened to progressive liberals on this site? They flew South right around election time, then made the mistake of nesting in a Kool-aid slick, where all leaders do while in power is rationalized.

the assassination at the church today set off a war on the American taliban.

Give them a taste of what happened to many innocent people and I bet they will change their minds on the war on terror.

Clarke is the one guy that they should have all been listening to, and they not only ignored him, but pushed him away. He was pointing out troublesome intelligence way before 9/11 took place and they laughed at him. Now they want to use the excuse that they were surprised and in a traumatic state. Gee, that's just the kind of leadership that we want, eh? They admit that the Bush admin was not capable of coping. At the same time, they are saying that everything they did was right. They can't have it both ways.
We all know now that they were not equipped to handle such a situation; especially the aftermath. Now the repubs are admitting it.
With every word they erode any credibility that they might have had.

... I have a name for their habit of trying to have it both ways: "The Stan Laurel Defense". Boy, if it isn't eerily accurate, too!

i continue to believe that 911 would have been averted if al gore had won in 2000. i really wish the ballot was challenged properly, but it was not, for "the good of the country", and a team that was motivated by building intel for policy rather than building policy around the intel was assigned to safeguard our country.

if it were not for the fact that the nation has made bigger mistakes in the past (hiring nazi thugs to create our intel network in the post 1945 world), i am not surprised by what is happening.

as far as i am concerned, the world did not change on 911, it changed years ago, dominos set in to play from before i was born; the question is, how is the cascade going to stop when all of the decisions are beyond our control and the entire republic is held hostage by the few?

"At least Bush kept us safe," is the war cry from conservatives whenever they try to find something good to say about the Bush Administration and their eight disastrous years of rule. They forget about everything that came before Sept. 11th apparently. That's not supposed to count

john, you miss a big point, as wikerson pointed out, (powell's cheif of staff), the administration did NOT keep us safe, FAR more americans died from terrorism AFTER 9/11 then from the attack and then any time before bush took office

they just didn't die from terrorism on our soil

they did NOT "keep us safe", they brought more death, destruction, and they destroyed our consitution to boot

The Republicans ruined everything.

It wasn't just that the people who were tasked with preventing the attacks failed.

It was that they rallied the MSM and the Democrats to agree to hold off pointing the finger oif blame so that we could show a united front to the world. Then the world responded with unprecedented empathy and cooperation.

We were close to having the ideal conditions for uniting the world against terrorism and extremists.

But then these morons decided to use the worst attacks on American soil to further their own partisan agenda. Knowingly and cold-bloodedly.

What could have been the seminal moment in world peace became a re-election strategy!

Bush may have been a tool and a pawn. Cheney and Rove were more than that, they were traitors!

The Bush League minions carrying out war crimes did so to make US voters think the Republicans were being 'tough on terror" - not from post 9/11 panic syndrome.

In some hidden location, George Tenet is playing with his nice shiny Presidential Medal of Freedom.

They saw (or created) to perfect situation to implement a police state, start the war they had by drooling over for years (see PNAC) followed by a permanent repuke majority (KKKarl). Torture was used to get the information they wanted to hear (or wanted to plant) to continue to justify their criminal activity. Every thing about what happened after 911 is about two things, (1)money and (2)power. Is there anything else the repukes care about?

I'm not buying a word of it.

Bush, Cheney, Rice ALL knew the attacks were coming.

They CHOSE to do nothing.

".. look of horror on Cheney's face .. " .. probably scared he was going to be found out for his complicity.

Just like Bush frozen in the Florida classroom with an "Oh shit this is it!" look on his face.

They knew, and they went to great lengths to cover up their complicity.

Oswald, all alone, shot JFK twice. 9/11 was the result of gross incompetence, not conspiracy by our government. If they had planned it, they would have screwed that up, too. To claim they planned any of it, is to give them too much credit!

That the Bush administration planned the 9/11 attacks. IMO it's more of a fact that they knew what was coming and just looked the other way in order to allow the events to unfold as they did.

If nothing else, the infamous PDB should have put the government on high alert. Yet all the asses can come up with was "well, the PDB contained historical information and thus we didn't see a threat." No shit. Anything that happened yesterday is now historical information, but you don't throw it all away just because it offers you a convenient CYA moment...or, of course, if it has to do with anything the Bush administration did (or didn't do) for 8 years.

I can see one flight possibly go off its flight plan for any number of reasons. But 4 flights at the same time? All on the East Coast? The PDB could have...should have...led to the steps that would have stopped this.

Agreed that GW & Cheney didn't plan it.

But I'm convinced Bush and Cheney and Rice were TOLD to ignore all warnings and act surprised.

All three were/are owned by Big Oil.

Can anybody explain why all the Bin Laden's in the country were the only people allowed to fly when all the flights were grounded? WTF was up with that?

PNAC: We need a Pearl Harbor incident. PDBs ignored.

several tall, well-engineered buildings falling into their own footprints in just a few hours, from plane crashes at least 2/3 up the building; and one building that imploded (#7) even though nothing hit it.

Jesse Ventura, in one of his recent interviews (on "The View" I recall), said the same thing.

Pointed out he was a frogman demolition expert.

And for a building to fall at the rate of gravity into its own footprint was going to need some explosive assistance.

But even more important, said he, was that we explore exactly what DID happen. One of the women (Hasselbeck?) pretty much tried to shut him up and he replied, "Why can't we ask questions about what really happened?"

GOOD ON HIM

We need more people like Jesse Ventura who are unafraid to speak their minds and ask questions.

There wasn't any hurricane named Katrina. The Weather Channel was bought off by Burger King. The Twin Towers collapsed because some French guy was walking a cable between the tops of the towers. I saw it on a documentary called, "Man On Wire". Making up this stuff is kind of fun. Thinking about going to work at Fox News...

is this: with all the skyscrapers in the larger cities such as NYC, why the hell don't we have helicopters equipped with water cannons that can extinguish fires high up, like those with the WTC?

These could have put out the fires rather quickly and saved them from collapsing.

nothing but an albatross around Silversteins's neck due to the asbestos problem they contained. He had been ordered to clean them up and the cost of doing so was prohibitive.

It was very convenient that these buildings, including WTC 7, were brought down by what appears to be controlled demolition.

I saw a video of the NIST representative being cornered regarding the multiple reports of "molten metal" flowing under the rubble for weeks at WTC 1 and 2 and he did nothing but deny, deny, deny:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs_ogSbQFbM

What a shame that only perhaps 1% of the American population are aware of this B.S.

confirmations by some physicists in Denmark and published in a research paper, I think the guy's last name is Harrit, that traces of nano-thermite have been found in the dust left in the hole. Nano-thermite, as I understand it has very proficient metal-melting properties and would not be expected to be found in the grave of the WTC.

Is there a connection to the high level meeting the Carlyle Group was having in NYC with certain members of the Bin Laden family that day?

Why were those Saudi's allowed to leave on airplanes when nobody else could?

The confusing, slip-of-the-tongue statements by Bush and Rumsfeld afterwards ...

The whole thing reeks.

The invasion of Iraq was all about the price of oil. Saddam had single handedly kept the price of oil under $20 for 10 years by pumping every drop he could. Foriegn and American oil owners were not amused. Chummy, Dummy and Rummy were sent to D.C. to get rid of him and started looking for any excuse to do so from their earliest contact with the Clinton transition team. The U.S. Dept of Justice is still desperately trying to block efforts to tie the Saudi royals to al Queda.
There's been a lot of ink spilled trying to blame the current rec/depression on Wall St. but the huge cost of the oil price run up and the subsequent stifling of the job market were essential ingredients.

Before they were appointed they planned to go into Iraq.
Paul Oneal said at the very first cabinet meetin he attended that bush ended the meeting by saying: Find me some way to get into Iraq.
All the death, all the wounded, all the people turned into refugees, all the people bombed and killed in Iraq mean nothing to bush/chenny and the big oil boys who have profited greatly from the death and destruction of Iraq and America.
I don't get why the stupid republican voters can't see what bush/chenny cabal have done.
Or is it that they just don't care?
Either way it is the worst thing we have done since we started trading slaves and killing the native people of this country.
The shame they have brought on our people is more then honest people should have to endure.
I cannot even imagine how the Iraqi people must feel.
All their family members killed and wounded for no good reason. The shame the shame the shame should be enough to make us all weep.
If their is a god I hope he forgives the American people for not doing more to stop the murderers that occupied the whitehouse for eight long terrible, horrific years.
One of the most shameful periods in our history.
If we prosecute and imprison these scum maybe it will be a start. I won't make it right but maybe it will be a new begining.

You got that right.

When oil became so expensive that (1) Americans cut way back on driving and (2) the cost of transporting raw materials and finished products skyrocketed and (3) the cost of petroleum based fertilizer put food costs through the roof and (4) the cost of every petroleum based part of the global economy skyrocketed .. world wide consumption tanked, world wide production tanked .. and then all the fancy "derivatives" went South, cuz they all assumed that, for instance, housing prices would contiune to grow .. and the whole bubble went *poof* ..

It was precisely $147 a barrel oil that pushed the whole world into recession/depression & financial crisis all at once.

THEY crashed the world economy. Why? To buy up all the broken pieces at firesale prices, AFTER cornering huge piles of cash themselves.

The Oil Companies and their Intelligence Minions have had the world in their grip ever since the invention of the internal combustion engine.

Back in the day, there were a few things that came out and I don't remember being followed up on or refuted.

1. The hijackers from Saudi Arabia had legally entered the States on visas issued from the CIA in residence at the embassy.
2. They stayed at a house rented to them by a CIA agent while in the States.

Was that why George Tenet had knowledge of the perps?

that has since been the site of CIA and Bush family-linked heroin smuggling and much more.
www.madcowprod.com
And no, it's not my website. I just think everyone should read it.

of Iraq: trotting out every possible excuse it thinks might work. Except the truth, because if they admit the truth, they admit the utter criminality of their whole enterprise. Oil. Power. Money. Greed. Empire.
I also doubt that it was horror that Clarke saw on Dick Cheney's face that morning. Glee and/or sexual excitement seem far more likely.

... Dick has another expression besides the sneer?

sneer and snarl, sneer and snarl...
this is also his sex face
(although i can't help but imagine him wearing a bondage mask with tiny zippers for the eyes and mouth)

"When asked about George W. Bush’s greatest achievement, Bush hagiographers are quick to claim that “He kept us safe.” And when we ponder that sentiment, we can only wonder at the human capacity for self-delusion, especially when it was on Bush’s watch that the U.S. suffered the worst attack on its soil since Pearl Harbor."

Frank Rich. Excellent. As usual.

Who Is to Blame for the Next Attack?

Bumper Sticker Idea : "Clinton Kept us safe "

Clark notes: "Nevertheless, the lack of evidence did not deter the administration from eventually invading Iraq -- a move many senior Bush officials had wanted to make before 9/11." As former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neil recounted in "The Price of Loyalty," Cheney & Rumsfeld advocated invading Iraq in Bush's FIRST cabinet meeting in January 2001. If THAT's not evidence of malice aforethought leading to "high crimes & misdemeanors," I don't know what else is. The whole lot of them need to be investigated, indicted, tried, convicted, and incarcerated if we're to recover any semblance of rule of law or moral authority.

"If you were there in a position of authority and watched Americans drop out of eighty-story buildings because these murderous tyrants went after innocent people," Rice said in her recent comments, "then you were determined to do anything that you could that was legal to prevent that from happening again."

Freudian slip much Ms. Rice?

The best excuse to their exercise is "NO EXCUSE"! Enough already....

"Bush kept us safe......" ?
Once again, the anthrax attacks, which have never been definitively solved, are completely ignored, like a crazy man talking out loud on the street. Pathetic.

Bush and his entire administration of criminals saw the evidence of us being hit by planes, but of course Condi didn't take it seriously and they ignored it. Bush didn't have a clue what the hell was going on, as usual.

Amen brother! I have said that since that day. Spot on...Allllll the way down the list. Not to mention, NO ONE ever brings up the offer of all that 'hush money' to the victims, and families of victims that was offered THAT VERY WEEK....

On the Clarke 'authorizing' the bin Laden family's 'get-away'...he is on record stating he would not give the go-ahead unless the FBI gave the go-ahead first. Which they did.

You gotta love Condi's remarks....glad they were so concerned about the 'safety of the country' AFTER 9/11 (snark)...

It is being discussed on tv that democrats are lauding Bush for being such a 'great guy' in not openly dissing the current administration....cracks me up. Letting Cheney and others do his dirty work...as usual.

Sleazy chickenshit....was too scared to face battle himself, so let others go in his place (Vietnam) and now is TOO CHICKENSHIT to actually say something. He knows he should be used as a mop to wipe up the S*** he left strewn around. Can't wait to see what Democrats are lauding that piece of crap.

That regime ran from the truth for the last eight years, why should they do anything different now. The media still refuses to counterpunch them with the truth, when they are on with their bs.

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