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If you’re a United States Senator and your house burns down, you don’t have to sleep out on the street. You have money, a staff, and wealthy friends. In other words, you have options.

So it’s pretty telling that when Senator Brownback’s condo caught fire back in 2000, he moved in with the manic, apocalyptic preacher Lou Engle. We know this thanks to a new video unearthed by Bruce Wilson.

Watch Engle explain – as only he can – how his pairing with Brownback came about:

In case you’re not familiar with Engle, he leads the IHOP – the International House of Prayer – which works to hasten the End Times. He’s also the founder (and voice-over talent) of militant, right-wing prayer rallies like this anti-Prop 8 event:

Miraculously, Brownback didn’t come to hate Engle after living with him for 7 months. In fact, the former roomies appeared together last week at the Family Research Council’s “PrayerCast” against healthcare reform. Who knows…maybe having Engle around makes Brownback feel reasonable?

[Bonus footage: watch Engle talk about the “hot blood” of Latinos and claim that his spittle is holy water]

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Blue Lensman's picture

Engle has some dirt on Brownback

pissed off patricia's picture

Let me put on my Christmas tinfoil hat and share a few thoughts. Is it possible that the religious right years ago made a plan to get into all forms of the government in order to one day change all the laws to their weird and strange liking? Bush got them into the judicial system and they got themselves in the house and the senate. They seem to pop up in every branch of our government and getting rid of them is more difficult than whack-a-mole. I don't know if they are really as crazy as they seem but if they aren't, they are very good actors.


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

it started back in the 80's while everyone was becoming hypnotized by MTV . . Life Styles of the Rich and Famous, the dream of granite counter tops for all, and Americas best days are still ahead of us pitch.

Annoyed Canuck's picture

Meanwhile, the Reaganites and Neocons who took over the Republican party expanded the national debt twice as fast as GDP was growing - they kept this shell game going for 30 years.

Nobody on the right wants to deal with the ugly results that have flowed from a generation of tax cuts, increased government spending, deregulation and growing wealth inequality.

It's more their mess than anyone's (Republicans held the White House for 20 of the past 29 years, and Congress has been mostly Republican since 1994). All they have left to sell is fear-mongering, Jesus, tea parties and conspiracy theories.

Karen's picture

You need not fear donning a tin foil hat. That's exactly what they're doing, and they've been doing it for many decades.

And they're not acting. They are that crazy. They're delusional and even genocidal. (No apologies: If you're part of The Family and supporting the kill-the-gays policy in Uganda or you're just wishing and praying for Armageddon, you qualify as genocidal.)

Part of the problem with the progressive wing in the country is that we don't behave like them. (Politically, that is, not the crazy, genocidal part.) We tend to operate on the assumption that politics and government work the way they're supposed to. We organize around issues for an election, work to get someone we like in office, and congratulate ourselves on winning. Then we want to go home to tend to our lives while our duly elected representatives do what we sent them there to do.

It doesn't work. Because it's not enough.

We need a long-term movement that gets us into all levels of government, and to change the way government works. Blue America and DFA are great starts, but it needs to seep into progressives' hearts and minds the way it has for the delusional, right-wing wackos.


Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?

What is it with the people in Kansas anyway? Is that state populated by lunatics for the most part? I remember how proud this idiot was during the republican debate to declare that he didn't believe in evolution. What a neanderthal.

pissed off patricia's picture

He was playing to the people we now know as tea baggers. That would have to be the only group who would consider that remark a positive.


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

I doubt it's much different then anywhere else these days.

ski's picture

I'm one of the more sane people in Kansas. I'm personally committed to doing everything I can to make sure Brownback does NOT become our next Governor. He's way too dangerous to be allowed to hold executive office.

That said, it's safe to say that the state is populated - well, if not by lunatics, then by the grossly misinformed and misled.

GlenStewart's picture

These christians go crazy at christmas, who knows what they put in their nog. The Rapture Right Youth Ministry made a christmas song and video asking god/santa to grant them the rapture this christmas. These guys are a satire group, but it is so close to what the christians really want to wake up to on christmas morning.

You can view it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGdCeghADss HILARIOUS!

seems to be some weird and inescapable polarity thing going on in this country where everyone hates everyone.

Frankly, I don't even recognize this country anymore. It's become like a alien landscape.

One thing I hope most people agree on is Corporations have way way to much power, which they abuse to their hearts content. I don't even think that's sunk in yet though.

Don't worry, the sun is gonna die in a few billion years and this will all be over with!

ysbaddaden's picture
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Well they freak out about people at Kiss Concerts Wed, 12/23/2009 - 13:24 — Evet
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Oh puhleezzee...

Kiss wasn't good enough to be Alice Cooper's backup band.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Evet's picture

No

pissed off patricia's picture

Calm down and have some more egg nog. See? Doesn't that feel better.


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

ysbaddaden's picture
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Wed, 12/23/2009 - 13:17 — GlenStewart
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And then the baby Jesus was visited by 3 Wise Guys from the East bearing gifts:

Gog, Magog and Egg Nog


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

pissed off patricia's picture

And the guy writing it all down was Blog.


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

ysbaddaden's picture
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The Gospel of Blog.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

ysbaddaden's picture
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If the three Wise Guys came from the East, does that mean they were from Yonkers?


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

pissed off patricia's picture

Last weekend we saw an SUV here and on the back window in professional lettering the owner of the car had this at the top of the window. "I didn't vote for communism" Below that was another sign that said "Obama is the Hugo Chavez of North America.

This was not just some homemade sign, this must have cost the guy something to have it made because it was definately professionally made.

People like that scare me.


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

Evet's picture

Corporate America . . DuPont Automotive: Paint & Coatings . . makers of fine window paints, professional lettering, stencils, decals, and more.

I bet he likes it with syrup.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

pissed off patricia - They scare me, too.

pissed off patricia's picture

When we drove around the guy I wanted to say something to him but the better side of my brain told me not to because the lunatic probably had a loaded gun on the seat beside him. He was a white guy who looked to be in his maybe 50s. The funny thing was he had on an Elmer Fudd cap and down here in Florida, you seldom if ever need ear covers on your cap. I can't even imagine living next door to someone like that.

They just held the vote in the Senate that cuts off debate. When they were reading the nay votes, it was all the goof balls you would expect. Even with the goof balls and all their crazy talk all these months, the dems got the 60 votes they needed. One more vote to go and I think now that will be early tomorrow morning.


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

Blue Lensman's picture

You have the AC cranked to the max. Probably his effort to combat global warming.

Samson-'s picture

i know brownback is, but is lou engle a member of the neofascist wanna-be organization the Family?

if so, it seems that engle broke the most important rule of C-Street.

Evet's picture

Forget the left.

Oh speaking of it has Rahm apologized for slamming the left-progressives?

There's more!
Jane Hamsher, Grover Norquist Call For Rahm Emanuel's Resignation
http://firedoglake.com/2009/12/23/jane-hamshe...

Hmmmm . . The left and right working together and going after the real culprits. Not a bad idea when you think about it.

Evet's picture

to shake up the system. Instead of babbling about things.

calgarylady's picture

True bipartisanship!

It's true, the real threat is a Super Corporate State not some rattle snake preacher in some shack.

First Washington needs to be tamed. You can argue with each other after that. You might even make some friends in the process. More alike than different (in some regards)?? You're all getting shafted in some way.

Bring back unions!!


"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!

Evet's picture

Doesn't matter if it's me, Jane, Joe Sixpack, the Church Lady. . were getting screwed.

pissed off patricia's picture

Anything Grover is involved with cannot be a good thing.


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

Evet's picture

bend over and take the shaft for the rest of our lives?

Rasmussen Reports
Seventy-one percent (71%) of voters nationwide say they’re at least somewhat angry about the current policies of the federal government. That figure includes 46% who are Very Angry.

I mean, this is good news!

Arctic Dude's picture

there are not many Latino people living here. Can someone explain why these redneck theocrats have such a problem with Latinos? I see this great culture and wonderful people. I just don't get where the hate is coming from.

pissed off patricia's picture

These nut jobs basically dislike anyone who doesn't speak and look just like them. They think themselves the chosen ones or something. Because they are nuttier than everyone else they think that makes them special. It does, but not in the way they think.


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

Blue Lensman's picture

They're brown people. For the racists, skin color trumps all.

Evet's picture

it was the White Guys against the Puerto Rican's back then I suppose the times have just changed. Everyone still wants to rule the block, streets, town, city, country, world apparently.

from a Catholic background? At least that could be part of the problem, anyway?

Nice to see Engle buying into the Latinos as barbarians sterotypes. / snark


I've never seen change without a fire

pissed off patricia - And the guy frozen in ice was Grog.

pissed off patricia's picture

Plus it was a long hard slog.


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

Edwin's picture

These guys must have had to wash the sheet a lot, unless they swallowed it all.


"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!

pissed off patricia's picture

Oh, must we go there? Isn't just knowing they were in the same room bad and gross enough?


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

That was the first place my mind... ;)


"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!

Brownback is running unopposed for governor of Kansas. Brownback in charge, a huge Republican majority in the legislature, theocracy is coming to Kansas.

Better start packing.


"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!

ski's picture

Someone steps up to run against this guy. So much for Tom Wiggans.

Could someone please talk Governor Parkinson into running?

Honestly, maybe I'm naive, but I just haven't seen these kind of religious crazies in Canada. They must exist, but they must alos be small groups. (I was a city guy. Maybe in the country?)


"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!

ysbaddaden's picture
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Ain't y'all all Anglicans?

(Except for the Canuckers)

The craziest Anglicans get is stirring their martinis instead of shaking them.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Actually that is Canada: that's our brand of crazy. People are just, "Whatever, eh." Let's go get a two-four.


"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!

pissed off patricia's picture

Hey let's drop the talk about martinis. Some of our fellow martini drinkers might be hurt or offended. Of course when I say fellow martini drinkers, I am talking about myself and I only drink mine shaken. In about an hour or so I can prove that to you. :)


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

ysbaddaden's picture
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I prefered vodka martinis stirred with a slice of lemon.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

pissed off patricia's picture

Do they have mental institutions in Canada? If they do, you can probably find their religious crazies there.


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

Our rehab facilities are pretty nice. I could live in one, no problem.


"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!

I guess there are some out there. And there's a nutter named Henry Makow from Canada as well, and the FLDS (religious nutters of another stripe, I guess) have a compound in Bountiful, Canada.

They're there, but generally speaking I don't see Canada's minority of nutters trying to run your country and the rest of the world into a ditch, the way the ones here are. :S


I've never seen change without a fire

Wichitaliberal - Man, if that happens you are doomed.

Edwin - I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere that the guy who founded the Assembly of God church was from Canada. I could be wrong. There was some sort of a connection to Sarah Palin. Could have been that "Army of Joel" thing. As a first generation American of Canadian descent it really bothered me to read that.

Like I said, I'm sure they exist, but in no way are they mainstream. Ottawa is not a religious place. We're quite a secular nation.

I have Christian friends, but they never talk about it. I've never seen one of these mass rallies. Most people I know are ambivalant about religion, and we just don't talk about it. It's not polite.

edit: Frumm was spawned in Canada and he's a nutjob neocon.


"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!

pinkobait's picture

I can't take all that herniated yelling and rocking about.
I'll keep my "false ideology" too you fucking clot.


"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "

-Jack Handy

project's picture

I wish he would come back and rapture their asses out of here so I wouldn't have to listen to their nonsense any longer.

Yellowbird's picture

What's with this guy?

Ya think he has to go pee?

Edwin - Man, you guys better take Frumm back. I think that we might even make it part of an international aid deal. Seriously, he is a first class asshole. Do you know how many times I have come close to destroying my own television set? Every time I see that pasty faced little prick I want to heave the nearest heavy object at him.

Radically Moderate ad infinitum's picture

Seems to me this looney tunes preacher was in Jesus Camp.
If it was not him it was a dead ringer for him.

Just did a Wiki and he was indeed at Jesus Camp.......dude whats with the head bobbing, is that a tic?


'We, the People'............rimshot................hahahahahaha!

ysbaddaden's picture
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Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Radically Moderate ad infinitum's picture

:-)


'We, the People'............rimshot................hahahahahaha!

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Starve the WAR Beast...
... Feed Americans.

Rascalcat's picture

I have a theory that Fundamentalist Christian thought and far-right. extremist, fear-mongering is leading to the dumbing down of Americans.

The fearfully ignorant are so much easier to manipulate.

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