Victims: Bishop Who Told Kennedy He Couldn't Take Communion Should Stop Protecting Pedophiles
By Logan Murphy Wednesday Nov 25, 2009 2:00pm
Rocked by sex and pedophilia scandals, the Catholic church has been losing members by the millions. In light of all that, the church continues to push its way backward in time and pushing it's pro-life members further away -- case in point, Congressman Patrick Kennedy's denial of communion by Bishop Thomas Tobin.
Of course, what Tobin and others within the church don't want to bring to light is the fact that they are still protecting accused pedophiles and sex offenders. After the Kennedy story came to light, some brave church victims have stepped up to make their voices heard. From the AP:
PROVIDENCE, R.I. – Clergy sex abuse victims and their supporters said Tuesday that Rhode Island's Roman Catholic bishop is not doing enough to protect children from pedophile priests even as he's taken on Democratic Rep. Patrick Kennedy for his stance on abortion rights.
A small group of protesters gathered outside Bishop Thomas Tobin's office in Providence two days after news broke that the bishop had asked Kennedy in 2007 not to take Holy Communion because he supports abortion rights.
"He claims that it's important that we protect the unborn. But it's equally as important to protect those who have been born and those young children who have been raped and sodomized by clerics and priests. But yet he seems to protect those clerics," said Ruth Moore, of Hull, Mass.
The group called on Tobin to publish the names of priests from the diocese who have been convicted of or admitted molesting children, or if a thorough investigation has turned up credible evidence of child molestation, even if no conviction resulted. Read on...
As Randi Rhodes always says -- Love the fetus, hate the child.








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to do with them trying to keep intact the stash/pool of future rape victims, that whatever silly "sanctity of life" argument this church, one of the bloodiest organizations in the history of human kind btw, has the balls to come up with.
...with this comment, Tyler. Good one.
I believe in spirituality.
I do not believe in religion.
If Kennedy wants to be a Catholic he needs to resolve this himself.
The (so-called) church needs to pay its fair share of taxes since it is clearly a political organization.
No pun intended but this organization has been in politics and runing lives for decades. IT's time they paid for their sins.
...try centuries, millenia. Religions try to squeeze God into a nice neat box. When the people's spirituality exceeds the dimensions of the religion's box, the religion reacts with excessive prejudice.
MZ
It can be defined by religious belief or whatever beliefs a person is willing to hold. Anything that doesn't fit into one's Reality Box is denied at best, ridiculed and killed off if possible, at worst.
A few years ago, a priest at the catholic church in my neighborhood was accused of fondling several grammar school girls. When the police called to investigate they were told that the priest was no longer at that church and couldn't be found. About a year later the father of one of the girls (a cop) tracked the guy down. The diocese had reassigned him to India.
The catholic church has no moral authority.
at the big fall meeting,the bishops got a report on the abuse by priest--it's down since the 1960-1980's. But guess why it happened--"the breakdown of society"--divorce, single mothers, drugs, sex--you know the rest of us, I guess.
Bunch of authoritarian, partiarchial disgusting perverts. When the sheep realize that the "culture of life" for catholics,evangelicals, dominionists, revisionists, christian nationalists, and biblical capitalists--or what ever they want to call themselves, is about Muslims and their population growth and the fear that they have of them--the better off we will all be.
Isn't he really just some earth bound misfit like the rest of us wearing funny looking clothes?
The "Veil" of power is really flimsy. It's amazing these charades can go on for so long.
...the Catholic Church is really not in a position to justify playing favorites within the flock by only denying communion to those people whose views conflict in very specific ways with church doctrine. If you sincerely believe in the importance of strict adherence to church doctrine, you should be prepared to enforce it across the board and penalize anyone and everyone who insists on maintaining views which conflict with those of the faith -- not merely those whose supposed sins you find it particularly convenient to chastise. Certainly, pedophiles shouldn't be left off the hook.
I gather that the Catholic church believes in degrees of sin -- but even though I was raised Protestant and taught that all sins are equally wrong in the eyes of God, both churches nonetheless teach that absolutely nobody is capable of escaping sin. The church is not a place which permits half-measures...either everyone is guilty to at least some degree, or nobody is.
Otherwise the RCC in Brazil would not excommunicate a 9 year-old rape victim for having a life saving abortion, but allow her rapist to remain in the church, because child rape is a lesser sin than abortion.
Where's the equal justice in this country? Obstruction of justice is a crime. The Bishop needs to be brought to justice if he is protecting pedophiles... and all his brethren doing the same. The selective prosecution by the U.S. government shows how much they follow the Constitution and choose NOT to apply the Rule of Law equally. Haul his ass in and he'll squeal like a pig... and buy a truckload of wine for Kennedy's next communion.
As I have said, this guy that posted this video keeps pulling down any comments against his pov.
He's really pissing me off. I get the email rsponses, but can't rebut. In the latest email he brought up Freedom of Speech, but takes down my responses. Yeah, right, freedom of speech. (my comments are fact-based, not rude, but...)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mU6Fb2uCPM
If you are so inclined, post a comment.
I have the right to remove/block any commenter I don't like on my YouTube videos-- as does this guy. Some people use that to censor everybody they don't like.
That's what he/she's doing. My original posts were cogent statements in disagreement with his/her/the Church's views, and they all got pulled. No foul language, no hatred of religion, just a dissenting view.
I opened another account. Now I'm BishopToebin. :)
The person that posted the video knows they are hypocritical, by now. They have to read my posts to pull them.
[edit: BishopToebin is decidedly less freindly than my original posts, with my usual handle!!!]
have spelled "Kennedy" correctly or is that like "democrat Party" ..?
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This Ex-Catholic Says...
... The Catholic Church is a FRAUD!
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Nov 20 (Reuters) - The Roman Catholic Diocese of Wilmington, Delaware, has sought bankruptcy court approval to continue providing pensions and medical coverage to certain priests accused of sexually abusing children, court papers showed.
It's all about MONEY
Agree with us, repent, obey, PAY UP, or you're going to Hell.
Nice gig!
The priests have to deny some people communion so they have enough wine left over to get the alter boys drunk. Duh! What is everybody thinking?
I borrowed your comment to post at YouTube. Hope you don't mind, and thanks!!! :)
....an obvious political statement against Kennedy like:
"'He attacked the church, he attacked the position of the church on health care, on abortion, on funding," Tobin said. "And that required that I respond. I don't go out looking for these guys. I don't go out picking these fights."
Has NO bearing on whether or not he recieves communion ...NONE.
JESUS CHRIST! ... what a bunch of freaks these cretins are ...
Tax and sue the f$%^&ers into the dirt!
Happy2Be
No longer RC!
/end rant
Brilliant. Why didn't I think of that?
Yessss!!!! It's about time. We've got a cardinal here in L.A. who hid numerous priest, from the time he was a bishop in Northern California, 'til the fact that he's hiding records from his pass coverups.
They should just shut-up until they clean-up their own mess. The church has no right to judge others, not after the mess they overseen.
Once you're born, kid, you're on your own...
Every Sperm is Sacred.
... a smart Palin!
bashing gay marriage while protecting priest who molest alter boys.
Organized eligion needs to go the way of the dinosaurs. Can't happen soon enough for me.
Are convicted murderers in Rhode Island banned by the Catholic church from receiving communion? How about rapists? How about other violent felons?
Or is it only elected members of prominent Catholic families who don't toe the political line of the church who are told not to take the sacrament?
I visited this church on a field trip as a child. It's the church where John F. Kennedy married Jacqueline Lee Bouvier on September 12, 1953
I recall one of the tour guides pointing out a particular light in the church and making the claim, that the light-bulb in the lamp had never burnt out since the marriage or founding of the church or some other extremely uncommon amount of time, considering the average life of a light-bulb, as if to imply it was protected by a higher power; needless to say I was in awe, the main word being was.
We were visiting the church for it's historic value to RI, as we also visited the original Newport Creamery; The Newport Creamery has a rich history. The company's roots date back to 1928 when Samuel Rector, who was already in the milk business, took over a dairy on Van Zandt Avenue in Newport, Rhode Island and became a wholesale milk distributor. Four years later, in 1932, Mason Rector (Samuel's son) joined the business. In this year, the Company also entered the retail business when it began to deliver milk house-to-house on Acquidneck Island. The business grew and prospered as the Company focused on providing quality service to its customers.
In closing, "To the Honor and Glory of God: this church was commenced on August 7, 1848, in the two hundred and ninth year of the settlement of Newport, when the members of the Catholic Church numbered five hundred and eighty-six souls, out of a whole population of about nine thousand. I'm not surprised this is an issue in RI,** and the sentiment is quite similar to the NY-23 race. A whole other story is Clinton and "THE FAMILY"... Keep in mind...
...Lynch was the second of the only two superdelegates in Rhode Island to publicly endorsed Barack Obama in the 2008 Democratic presidential primary on February 9, 2008. The first being Congressman Patrick J. Kennedy on January 28, 2008. Ultimately, Barack Obama lost the Rhode Island Democratic primary on March 4, 2008 to Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Why did Patrick talk... They don't people to know what we're doing. Why do they shuffle those sinful guys around?
.... which Catholic doctrine to go by. Would Tobin refuse communion to a Republican that voted against healthcare reform? People in the US DIE due to inadequate healthcare coverage. Would he refuse communion to a Republican that votes, consistently, against helping the poor, against changing the social, political, and economic policies that harm the poor and votes for the rich accumulating even more wealth? Bishop Tobin should read the Catholic Church's official social doctrine:
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_i...
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_i...
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_i...
It seems Jesus wanted people, even bishops, to help those in need.
This Bishop is nothing more than a politician.
"The group called on Tobin to publish the names of priests from the diocese who have been convicted of or admitted molesting children, or if a thorough investigation has turned up credible evidence of child molestation, even if no conviction resulted."
And shouldn't he deny himself communion until he does?
It must be nice to plead stupidity and ignorance while at the same time hold up a hypocritical self serving policy.
Child Molesters YES, Murders Yes, Liars YES, Fabricators of the Truth YES, Hypocrites YES.
Point Free thought, Free Will NO, NO, NO. Only the Ignorant, Inept and Incompetent can be allowed to have that. Remember surrender your Free Will, Free Thought and any attempt of a Individual and be a foot stool for the the DERANGED ego maniacal Clowns of the church.
One quick thought for the MORON on the right with their phony god and Idiotic beliefs, they protect the right to life interesting a woman cycles once a month are these MORONS now going to charge her with a crime she is discharging eggs DUH! Come on you wacked out Hate Mongers lets see you brain Dead Idiots go for it.
Sure hope those calling them selves Catholics will readjust their thinking and dump these Hate Mongers.
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