Conservatives Claiming Bin Laden is in Iran
By Nicole Belle Sunday Apr 05, 2009 2:44pm
The lengths (and lies) some will go to get what they want...
Conservative Dr. Rachel Ehrenfeld writes at Huffington Post:
Osama Bin Laden is in Iran, asserts Alan Howell Parrot, the director of The Union for the Conservation of Raptors (UCR), who for many years served as a Falconer for the rulers of the United Arab Emirates (UAE), and members of Saudi Royal family. In that capacity he was a regular guest in the seasonal Falconry-hunting camps and had access to all participants. Parrot has been offering evidence of Bin Laden's sighting in Iran since November 2004 to a great number of U.S. government officials at the Department of Defense, the FBI, Senators and even to the former Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), Gen. Michael V. Hayden. Government officials who asked to remain nameless confirmed Parrot's contact with the government. Still, no one responded.
So let me get this straight: A guy named Parrot, who works with the Saudi royal family's falcons, wants us to believe that Bin Laden is playing around with falcons in Iran and even though Parrot negotiated with Iranian officials to bring Bin Laden to the Saudis (why? the best person for this job was a guy in charge of falcons?), no one in the US cared about his story. Ehrenfeld doesn't bother to explain why a Iranian-Saudi extradition would require US intervention nor why Parrot himself might have a wee bit of a credibility problem. My buddy Cernig did a little basic internet searching and discovered that Parrot has posted on a right wing site that not only has the Saudi royal family unsuccessfully tried to have him killed several times, he also holds some fairly bizarre Islamophobic notions:
Muslims are extraordinarily averse to admitting self-fault, and accepting blame. This is a UNIVERSAL feature among devout Muslims. Why?
For many years I have watched the cultural phenomenon of “Majelis”, where strict protocol governs how a person publicly relates to the sheikh or the prince, and everyone’s actions are more controlled than in Louis IV palace of Versailles. There are many, many subtle things that have to be done just right, to qualify as an honored guest in Majelis. Westerners always offend Majelis protocol, even when the Westerners think they know the system backwards and forwards; their Arab hosts forgive these Westerners, with a smug deductive conclusion that their Western guest is an uncivilized “barbarian”.[..]
Certainly that perception among Muslim leaders (that Westerners are simple and naïve), is behind their ability to manipulate our media and some of our political leaders. When they succeed in manipulating us to achieve their own Islamic agendas, at the same time these Islamic colonialists spit on the ground and revile us even more than before.
Oh, that sounds REALLY credible. Gosh, can't imagine why he wasn't taken more seriously at the CIA. Isn't it convenient that the number one bogeyman is located in the enemy country du jour for the Neocon/Netanyahu group?
Obviously, they subscribe to the notion of the BIG lie being more believable. It's just a shame to see it go unchallenged at Huffington Post.
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You know, try as I might I just can't seem to get rid of these pesky gophers in my backyard. Let's see, what would a neocon do in a situation like this....hmmm....oh, I know...I JUST SAW OSAMA BIN LADEN BURRING IN A HOLE IN MY BACKYARD!
*dives over neighbor's fence and ducks in a ditch as predator drone approaches my backyard*
...was funny!
But sad. Just goes to show you can fool some of the people some of the time but you can fool the 28 percenters all of the time.
Probably in Bosnia or more likely, Kosovo or Albania. Who would ever think to look for him there? In either place he has lots of friends.
I heard his biggest fan base just relocated there...
It's true that the best recruiter for terrorists Bin Laden could have ever hoped for relocated to Dallas. Still, my money is on finding Bin Laden in the Balkans. Just a hunch.
If anything, my post was more sustained by evidence than your "hunch."
Oh, America: where It is always nice to be lectured about a fictional character by people with little connection to reality.
Tyler Durden???
because "scruzman" is such a "common" "real" name. Eh?
I thought your troll branch had been outsourced?
in your dreams TD.
Look in the Balkans. Ask for Violetta Rajkovic.
I heard he's with Cheney placing bets on who is responsible for the most innocents deaths.
I think he meant to say,
"MuslimsRepublican'ts are extraordinarily averse to admitting self-fault, and accepting blame." So they made up a new fairy tale.According ex-primier Butto (RIP) Bin Laden IS AS DEAD AS ELVIS
Benazir Bhutto: Bin Laden was Murdered:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg
But the fact is the FBI does not certify Bin Laden for 9-11 see it for your self:
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinla...
they'll be saying he's living at Al Franken's house. Their dog don't hunt no more. About all he's still capable of doing is licking his own balls.
i am fucking tired of the reichwingnuttia gop
and their constant attempts at fearmongering.
bin laden can be found up all their asses.
they had to make room for him by removing their
collective heads from the daisy chain of gop butts.
Osama Bin Laden who is a fundamentalist Sunni, and who thinks Shias are even worse heretics than the American Great Satan themselves... would most certainly hide in the country with one of the largest percentage of Shias among its population.
Conservative think tanks, redefining the word "genius" since the the dawn of the last century!
I think Osama bin Laden has long abandoned his mortal coil, so to speak. He's a convenient boogie-man for xenophobic rightwingers, though, to move around and manipulate like a paper doll to further their own agenda.
If Parrot really wants to help America, he could at least say bin Laden's living in Wasilla, AK, in the home of a certain secret Muslim witch.
if not in wasilla, then probably somewhere
in sight of this witch. you know she can see
russia, why not over the edge of sanity.
that republicans read 1984 as an instructions manual, not a dystopian novel.
If you substitute INGSOC for GOP, Misitry of Truth for FOX News, 2 Minute Hate for a fundie Church Sunday service, and Emmanuel Goldsten for Osama Bin Laden. It all makes perfect sense.
The biggest problem about it is that it *worked* for so many years.
It's HuffPost Nicole. They have become nothing more than a joke in the last month or more. Gossip, dresses, and unimportant filler stories are more abundant on there than any real news.
I am surprised that OBL hasn't turned up in North Korea yet. Perhaps that'll be his last destination and the entire story is complete. He's apparently been dwelling in every Axis of Evil states.
He can have one foot in Pakistan and the other in Iran. I don't think he could stretch to N Korea though.
OBL actually has 3 legs...
North Korea are reported to have nukes, so he can't be there.
bin Laden can only be in places the U.S. can safely attack. Of course, only right whingers can 'know' where OBL is and whilst they are nutters, they are not suicidal.
reminds me of a guy named 'Curveball.'
I have always said if OBL is alive, he's in Saudi Arabia, where he can receive top notch medical care for his kidney probs. Saudi Arabia is a closed country and it would be hard to get to him there, w/o the govt help. and the bin Ladens are very wealthy and big and influential there...If I were Saudi Arabia, and I wanted people to get off of my back, I'd point them toward Iran, a closed country my 'friends' hate.
I don't think Iran wants the US bombing the fuck out of them.
I JUST came back here to mention Curveball, who was apparently certifiably nuts and living in LaLa land but one of the pillars, along with bank felon Ahmed Chalabi, who wanted to be Iraq's president -- the Bush administration built its case against Iraq on such unfortunate supports.
Saudi Arabia "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."
US "But what if your enemy's enemy is already supposed to be your friend?"
Saudi Arabia "What are you talking about. No one likes the United States!"
Old Saudi Arabian Proverb
"The wolf you know, is not the one to fear.
The wolf you don't know is the one that will kill you."
And just for balance in the Middle East, a Yiddish proverb:
"When I eat every one else can go to hell."
He's done less damage, believe what you will, than shrub, Obama, congress, and the U.S. Supreme Court have done to this country.
Box cutter Terrorism is like like a bunyon, or a hangnail,
...compared to the terminal cancer and subsequent economic amputations induced by the banks
Yes, you are.
Yeah. Right.
It's like claiming that the IRA's top hitman is hiding out in Ian Paisley's cellar.
Well, of course he is.
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MuslimsReligious people are extraordinarily averse to admitting self-fault, and accepting blame. This is a UNIVERSAL feature among devoutMuslimsReligious people. Why?"Hey, when your values are contingent on belief in an omniscient/omnipotent/omnipresent god, and you're devout, its kinda hard to admit you're wrong about something.
I'm talking to you conservative christians and jews too.
Americans believed everyone lie Bush told to illegally invade Iraq. Even with proof there were no WMD's Americans and War Profiteers still bombed Iraq for Oil while 151,000 Iraq people slept in their beds. So as we are the true Axis of Evil it would make sence to lie again it worked so well the last time. Who know the GOP might say Osama is in Russia so we should bomb them too. Why not just bomb every country that doesn't follow our orders. We do torture and we're proud of it. Yes we're broke but we do have 2,000 Nuclear Weapons to use on innocent people and countries that don't have Nuclear Weapons. Why not bring George W. Bush and Dick Cheney back or ask McCain/Palin to take over the White House.
This American didn't believe it for one second!!
Even if this nonsense was true, it implicates the Saudis and the UAE in sheltering Bin Laden, who are supposedly the neocon's favourite arab nations. Shouldn't they be drawing up sanctions against them as we speak?
Do Saudi royals really go on falconry holidays to Iran? I was under the impressions they rather hated eachother?
That was nothing...wait till you find out what that democrats and republicans have been doing together behind our backs...!
Is that why we have a nationwide shortage of KY Jelly?
This is more of the same here. Typical lies too.
Complete fabrication and outright rubbish.
Show us the evidence of these ridiculous claims.
"Muslims/Conservatives/Christians are extraordinarily averse to admitting self-fault, and accepting blame. This is a UNIVERSAL feature among devout Muslims/Conservatives/Christians."
You had Adam Pearlman from Orange County Calif. Now we got this guy
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D97B6...
Guess we can blame Alex Jones for this to?
What the hell is going on at HuffPo? First we have anti-vaccine cranks like David Kirby and Kim Stagliano posting their nonsense. And now this. Does Arianna even know?
... other than aligning her ass with whatever is more convenient for her career. This tool is so self absorbed that she couldn't see coming from a mile away that her husband was gay, I don't really care what this tool and her organization have to say or think about anything.
and apparently reformed. I don't believe it. Listen to her in any interview, and she sounds batshit crazy. And her website? Lotsa Oprah, Madonna, hollyweird gossip, and cult-like following of the new administration. If a rich gold digger like Arianna is all in luvs with the new administration, then you know what you have got.
I used to have a sunscription to her site I cancelled it after she started putting all the propagandist on there
[OK. Save it for the Open Thread. Thanks-Sitemonitor]
Maybe he just wanted a greencard.
the Masonic Order"
Had to love this guys answer.
"Al-Qaeda" is Arabic for "Illuminati"
:-)
WOW, Tyler! That gives me lots to think about. Was the BushCrimeFamily one of the Illuminati???
I always suspected the Bushs were part of the "dimilluminati." At least "dimson" Bush the lesser was.
I dunno if they are a branch of the main Bavarian order, or a competing franchise to tell you the truth.
why isn't Johnny McCain out huntin' him down? He is yet another conservative that knows where he is.
and would get him,But we failed to elect him
So will someone please explain why Benazir Bhutto told the BBC that Bin Laden had been murdered?
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She meant to say Daniel Pearl.
A month before that interview with Frost she said she would cooperate in targeting Bin Laden.
And the people she said she was talking about with Musharraf (as she was explaining to Frost) were leaders of the ISI- the same ISI who Omar Sheikh surrendered to when the police were looking for him for the murder of Pearl- who she believed were out to assassinate her. The same people who were behind the murder of Afghan Northern Alliance leader Ahmad Shah Massoud.
You just said "She meant to say Daniel Pearl". Not even a "probably" put in there? How can you be so sure? Because you found one blogger journalist who we know nothing about who said so?
What reasons do we have to think Bin Laden is still alive? Because Buscho claimed he was? Didn't they lie about everything else?
I would like to know also ... why do people believe this man is still alive? What proof do they have? He wasn't responsible for 911 ... that's a fact ...why are we looking for him? ... so what evidence do you guys have that Bin Laden is still alive? I would really like to know.
Hell, repeat it enough on FOX and the underbelly of America would believe it. A lot less distance to travel for war, easier to conquer, and the oil's just as sweet.
I wonder if he knows Roger the Shrubber?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2qYrW79UZI
He's just repeating something that Cheney taught him to say.
The pro-Israeli AP was no friend to Obama before the election.
Now, however their 'investigative teams' have uncovered a new "terrorist" story.
I number all the red flags in this whopper:
The story is supported by Bush administration CIA and intelligence officials (#1), and is about a secretive(# 2) 76 year old Palestinian (#3) terrorist (#4), hidden by Sadaam Hussein(#5) in Iraq (#6) nicknamed "Dr. Frankenstein" (#7) on his way to Syria (#8)
I mean really Dick - is that all you got left?? Dr. Frankenstein??
You watch. Between Netanyahoo, Dick Cheney, Joe Lieberman and the entire Republican party this new Middle East peace effort is going to look like a game of whack-a mole with all the rabid rats popping up to undermine it.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090405/ap_on_re_...
Wingers have been wrong about everything for the past thirty years but that doesn't stop them from giving advise and acting as if they know everything about everything. It is called delusion to thinking people.
Isn't there something a little Sunni/Shiite about a bed Linen/Iranian connection?
and a ghost can live as long as "they" want him to live and can be anywhere "they" want him to be.
Shhh...be vewy, vewy quiet
I'm hunting tewwowists.
Muslims are extraordinarily averse to admitting self-fault, and accepting blame. This is a UNIVERSAL feature among devout Muslims. Why?
The irony in that statement is almost blinding.
That line sounds exactly like it came out of the mouths of BLOODY ISRAEL. Judging only the actual ACTIONS, and ignoring the propaganda put out, one would have to say the same things about BLOODY ISRAEL. Project much??? Yep, the irony is blinding.
but just to make sure, why don't we ask Zbigniew Brerzinski (sp?)??
He was his big pal back in the 80's when OBL was being paid by US to keep the Ruskkies busy in.....wait for it..Afghanistan. Zbig is one of Obama's advisors, so I'd guess it would be easy to have him confirm one way or the other.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDvVZ2Gn-9g
Israel will feed this lie just like Bush's WMD and Connie Rice's Mushroom Cloud. Notice how even the Saudi's think Americans are gullible as we believed that WMD lie hook line sinker. Now if McCain were President the US would do pre emptive attacks on Iran, Russia and North Korea with no help from the other countries. They say there's a fool born everyday who knew they would be all born in the good old USA.
Osama Bin laden has been staying with Hannity and with Rush in Florida on the week ends.
Osama Bin Laden is in Venezuela, on Isla Margarita, and has been there for a long time.
Osama is most likely dead.
Otherwise you'd think he'd appear in some way, other than on fake audio and cheap phony video clips.
....you fool! And get out of my way because I'm coming through.
I saw B-L about two weeks ago in Katz's Deli on Houston Street in New York.
He was having a heated conversation with Elvis.
They said to keep the war going.
Why would bin Laden be in Iran? The only thing they ever had in common was a hatered for Saddam Hussein.
That this story can even be taken seriously demonstrates how ignorant the MSM still is about Islam. There are two major sects in Islam Sunni and Shia. The Saudis, Taliban, and Al Queda are Sunni, the Iranians and most Iraqis are Shia. Each side hates the other as much or more than they hate the west. To suppose that Bin Laden would be taking refuge with his mortal enemies in iran is just idiocy.
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