Former Commerce Secy. Nominee Gregg Votes Against Stimulus
By Nicole Belle Saturday Feb 14, 2009 9:00am
(h/t The Political Base)
Gregg last week:
"We need a robust one," he added. "I think the one that's pending is in the range we need. I do believe it's a good idea to do it at two levels, which this bill basically does, which is immediate stimulus and long-term initiatives which actually improve our competitiveness and our productivity."
Gregg today:
Republican Sen. Judd Gregg is putting a final exclamation point on his withdrawal as Barack Obama's designee for Commerce Secretary with a promise to vote against the president's economic stimulus package.
Gregg's office confirmed the decision Friday.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say maybe Gregg's departure was not much of a loss to the Obama administration.
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The only problem with him not accepting is that NH has to keep him in office. Can't they still have his replacement take over his duties in the Senate?
The fact that he is also not gonna run for re-election in 2010 makes me think that he has something bigger than unpaid taxes that he wants kept quiet. Can we still have confirmation hearings so we can dig into his past? :)
Jack Abramoff?
Really? I don't remember Judd's name coming up with Abramoff!
So it seems Judd should have stayed with Obama, I mean Ney is now on left wing talk radio, Judd could get a gig "with us" after his years in Obama's cabinet!
Cool! I googled Judd and jack and got a lot of good news! When is this story gonna hit the Librul Media? Seems like a story like this would go viral in a Librul run Media.
Oh wait that was just used by GWB to discredit any "untoward" news about him, and it is being kept by Bechannitimbaugh for old times sake.
Thanks Jo. I hope this story gets wings over the weekend. Hmm, maybe Morning Joe will bring it up.... After he gets off his diatribe about Murtha of course.
I'd love to get Judd on the stand and see how many other Republicans won't be running for re-election in 2010!
Not much to say about Gregg other than this:
He's a swinish Republican.
That pretty much covers it.
Or was Gregg the mayor of the French town Commercy?:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commercy
That's what I get for having a glass of wine last night while writing posts.
Thanks for the headsup, I fixed it.
Only A glass of wine?
will President Obama reach across the aisle, only to bring back a bloody stump where a hand used to be, before he learns?
Twice?
get a clue first bro. These people hate you. Stay nice, but we gotta take a big turn. I don't want the CEO's in jail. I want them on the street trying to survive.
Jack Grubman is. Only on the street when stepping out of the limo.
Gregg didn't parlay this whole thing into more perks for himself from the Republican party and that was perhaps his whole intent? Kinda a reverse Joe Lieberman, if you will.
He made it sound like he wasn't going to run again in 2010. Then again, he lobbied for the Commerce position too.
Gregg wasn't going to run in 2010. I just think that with Coleman losing in Minnesota, the Repubs couldn't take the chance that the Democratic Governor of New Hampshire would actually appoint a Republican to his seat in the Senate. Can't prove it, but the Republicans think this way. It will be interesting to see where Gregg lands after he leaves office...stay tuned.
And he made it sound like he'd be a good choice for Commerce. See how that turned out?
well what did you expect him to do? he like the rest of the repigs are sure the stimules bill is only a pipe dream, and after these dumbocrats wich is only the whipping boy part of the repiglet party will get the blame for destroying the social security and other benifits they couldnt steal with thier wall street investments of that program, they the repigs painted us into a corner with thier boondoggles , this is not a natural disaster its been in thier plans all along, its like being in a battle where your going to have to pull back to a better defencive position but the hard facts are the only place left to retreat to is the ocean, good luck fighting in water thats over your heads!
I think they fear more that the stimulus bill will actually work, and that they'll lose even more power in 2010. So deep down, they want the bill to pass, but fail, so they can say "I told you so." And they're doing their best to water down the bill to make that happen.
I really can't follow a damn thing you type. Punctuation, spelling and grammar, ftw. oh, and paragraph breaks.
excuse me sonny my daddy couldnt pay for an education, like yours did for you!professor! but it was very elitest of you to point it out! my only hope is that we dont wind up with a bunch of over educated nerds running america!by the way i noticed your evaluation on me was more then your useual one line you post on here!how can i be impressed if you dont show me how smart you are ? oh wait!
They're trying to turn Obama's misdirected attempts at bipartisanship to make it look like he's the one who's not.
It's like I was saying during the primary, Obama might get alot of things done but he won't stop the political gamemanship.
Meanwhile America's is in the throes of a boosh economic crises.
While the repugs are playing chaney gunmanship.
Nicole Belle said:
Way to throw caution to the wind there, Nicole. lol
...can Obama learn from this. It's absurd that he didn't already know what modern Republicans are like, but now has he fully understood the folly of thinking that his sheer magnificence will convince people who always put the good of the party (and power) before everything else?
I shouldn't say that:
More like Elmer Fudd gunmanship.
Dear President Obama
PLEASE do not bother any longer trying to "reach across the aisle". The REthugs are, pure & simple , trying to crush anything you try to do. Besides why in hell do YOU have to reach across any aisle, they are the ones who should be reaching for help, since their massive defeat in November. Gregg had his puppet strings pulled by his GOP owners, & had his "come to Jesus" reset. You are better off without him.
when he spoke in favor of the plan. He told the truth, and for a Republican that causes sleepless nights and heightened anxiety.
Gee, what a surprise. The GOP mob got to him. The GOP is just like the Borg in Star Trek. They consume all, assimilate, and operate out of one collective conscious. And heaven help anyone who dissents.
Ain't that the truth!
I mean, come on. Their philosophy is more of the same disaster that has brought us to where we are today. Do you honestly think ANY of these bastards have anything good to offer this country? They all talk the same talk, walk the same walk, and would rather line their pockets on the way to hell than do anything to help this country out of the shit hole they placed us in.
I'm skeptical as hell, trying to get any repug to paddle the same direction as Obama and his administration need to go. Forget them. We don't HAVE TO lie down in bed with this diseased thinkers to make this country move forward again.
He tried. Enough is enough. Learn from it..and move on.
This whole affair certainly was an embarrassment for him. I do think he honestly believes in bringing the two side together and that is admirable but it just ain't gonna happen. No how. No way.
The Republicans have no interest or desire in working with the Democrats. I mean, why would they want to work with baby-killing, socialist terrorists? :-)
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say maybe Gregg's departure was not much of a loss to the Obama administration.
and say maybe Obama's whole bi-partisan schtick was worthless, useless, a distraction, and probably will cost him, in the long run...and probably in the short run, too...
and he didn't EVER have that much wiggle room, with near 60 MILLION people who explicitly voted AGAINST him--nobody was so stupid as to actually vote FOR McCumstain/Failin, were they?
will call these guys out on their obstructionism tomorrow? Any bets? I say zero.
Good riddance to bad rubbish I say, dear old chap.
Potentially the Bright Side of Obama's Failed "BiPartisanship" is that these Republican CongressPersons and Senators will hang themselves in the next election.
In state after state where the Republican Rep or Senator has voted against the stimulus, the State officials have been begging for the money.
That SHOULD come home to roost next election.
in the closet?
Mebbe he "forgot" to claim that Three-Quarter Million Dollar lottery prize he collected a few years ago?
Or mebbe he's got a "nanny" problem...
Sat, 02/14/2009 - 09:40 — MountainMan23
Potentially the Bright Side of Obabma's Failed "BiPartisanship" is that these Republican CongressPersons and Senators will hang themselves in the next election.
They are PLAYING to those constituents now. These guys represent the 60 MILLION retards who voted GOP this year. Their seats are safe. Obstructing Obama is what their constituents WANT them to do. They, like Rush, actually WANT Prez.O to fail...(Secret revelation: I wanted Bush to fail at everything he ever attempted, and I wanted him to die in the attempt.)
When Todd Boulanger pleaded guilty to his role in the Jack Abramoff scandal he cited "Staffer F." in his plea. That staffer is Kevin Koonce, former legislative director for Sen. Gregg.
Another staffer, Trevor Blackann, pleaded guilty last fall for failing to to disclose gifts.
from dictionary.com:
2. a member of a clandestine subversive organization who tries to help a potential invader [syn: fifth columnist]
or... Republican.
Now that they saw the GOP vote against the watered-down version they helped to craft, could the Democrats now just decide to work on a bill to add back all of the good stuff they took out of the stimulus bill in hopes of gaining GOP support?
This guy is a Senator in a state that has a Democractic Governor. If he accepts the job then the Democrats gain a filibuster proof majority.
The Republicans are really afraid of this happening; therefore, it is in their interest to "dig up the dirt" on Gregg.
The guy is probably being blackmailed.
Oops... can't get confirmed as Commerce Secretary and can't vote for the stimulus plan.
This may be his problem:
http://www.wpxi.com/politics/18640535/detail....
His seat was going to be filled by his former chief of staff. Then in 2010 there would be an election. The chief of staff person was said to probably not run. This may have had something to do with the reason he bailed out. He was probably pressured by Mitch (what happened to my face ) McConnell and he also probably figured that he could not work with a Democrat because he has been obstructing them for so many years. Also I just heard/read that he may not run in 2010 either. The main thing is that he was going to be replaced by a Republican though.
I think you're giving Judd too much credit. I think mayhaps the "powers that be" called Judd after the news broke about is aide and they want to keep Judd off the witness stand and away from any situations where Judd would be "under oath"!
If the aide story breaks next week, in time for any confirmation hearing Judd would've had to pull a Rove or a Gozalez and not recall if he remembered..!
You're so right about the link. It nicely explains why he isn't running for re-election either.
Jack Abramoff, the gift that keeps on giving.
how the Repucks have the spin machine whacking off saying it was President Obama's fault for the "democratic" bill that Gregg could not vote for causing Gregg to withdraw.
It was Gregg who wanted the job.
Obama asked him before announcing the selection if he would have a problem with the package. "No problem", said Gregg.
I agree with the other posters saying that the closet at Gregg's house holdes a lot more than coats, shoes and "dirty laundry".
President Obama was and has been trying to be neutral and select the best person for the job. This entire process shows how petty, ugly and brimming with shit the gop dicks are.
I would not be surprised if Obama had more reasons than being neutral. Lets be real here.
well, yeah. It's politics. lol.
Luckiest thing about these "R" people is when they out themselves. Count your blessings, Barack!
is indeed no loss to us or Obama's administration.
But I would really like to know WTF Obama was thinking when he nominated this cretin.
You really need to have that explained? Have you been paying attention at all?
Personally, I think part of the reason he's withdrawn is that he insisted that he would only take the position if his state's governor appointed a Republican replacement for him, and that smells a lot like Blago's situation. The Obama team could make something out of it if they wanted to, and one more Dem Senate vote would render the Republicans completely meaningless.
He's a Republican. The Republicans will likely fight the Obama Administration tooth and nail on everything to come. The thought crossed my mind that it will be more about on-going revenge than simple partisan politics. The Republicans literally had their collective asses handed to them on silver platter in the last election and in passing this Stim Bill when you think about it. The funny thing about it is they act as though they don't deserve it and don't have the slightest clue why. It is because of them our country is in the mess it's in. Even funnier, they keep this shit up they will lose even more power come the midterms. It's like they are in self-destruct mode and don't know how to turn it off. They prefer act like unruly children rebelling against the adults. Look at that little performance Boehner made when he sent the Bill thundering to floor while complaining no one had time to read it. It seems to me when the WarPigs Bill concerning the Wall Street bail-out went from maybe 30 pages to some 600 pages, the Republicans had no problem. Quite honestly, I am not happy the Bill either, since it's been carved up and added to, but SOMETHING has to be done. Lord only knows what's been buried in it.
That's O.K., let the Republicans cry and scream and stamp their little feet all they want. It only serves put them closer to being and even smaller minority. The country might be better off because of it...for awhile until the Dems screw up and become the bad guys. I don't really trust them as a whole either. You know, the lesser of two evils.
Whatever those are?
Can't wait to read Naomi Klein's new tome when it comes out-
'The Shock Doctrine, Part Deux'
Tables Turned, Or How Democrats Shamelessly Exploited the Economic Crisis to Push Through the Largest Pork Bill Known to Man
Mission Accomplished.
Dreams Achieved.
Your children's children? Tell them to gird their loins.
Hooray, hooray.
"Your children's children? Tell them to gird their loins."
Yeah that'll keep them younguns from having babies.
What would've been more shameful is if the conservatards shamelessly exploited the economic crisis to push through more tax cuts for the top 5%.
He stated he has his own "if you'd like to say" theological beliefs that would interfere with his absolute support and participation in the cabinets vision.
He shy's away from exposing those theological beliefs, so one must make their own assumption. One just needs to look into his visible history to shape a proper opinion. Regarding his decision to withdraw, I admire his conclusion and question his initial intention.
"Gregg belongs to the Congregationalist Church. He is married to Kathleen MacLellan Gregg; the couple have two daughters, Molly and Sarah, and a son, Joshua.
"Gregg won more than $850,000 in 2005 after buying $20 worth of Powerball tickets at a Washington, D.C. convenience store. He is a member of the Sons of the American Revolution."
[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judd_Gregg ]
What a lowlife. I'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest that Gregg's actions were deliberate all along, to hang up the process of confirming Obama's nominations, especially those that would be involved in the finance question. Sleazy all around. Good riddance.
but that is why neither party matters, both were going to print insane amounts of money. Neither have this right. When you are in debt and can barely make your credit card payments you tighten the belt, pay down the cards and start to save.
Both are proposing the opposite, they are both wrong. We are not going to stop the pain of a correction but we will prolong that pain by doing the wrong things. By doing nothing we could have had a short sharp V shaped recession but not now, by stimulating and bailing out the economy we are now going to get an L shaped downturn but instead of a deflationary downturn we run a greater risk of a hyperinflationary depression where the price of goods will eventually turn insanely high.
People either don’t know or have turned their brains off on this issue and have forgotten credit = debt. So many people here have posted with there hearts and compassion for those who lost their jobs thinking that we must do something. If they understood economics a little better they would know job losses were going to happen anyways regardless if we did something or not.
The Republicans drove us to a cliff and both parties in a panic to turn us away from the cliff (to look like they were doing something) instead hit the gas and never turned the wheel.
Wow.These people are just incapable of shame.
Its interesting that you can't think,"I bet this guy turns around now and does such and such" with anything approaching sarcasm,or the expectation that even the Pugs wouldn't stoop THAT low,because they now routinely do so without a speck of self consciousness or fair play.
You know, of all the available creeps out there, you gotta wonder. What was it about this particular creep that the Obama administration found worthy?
I have little doubt that Boner , Bitch and the big shots in the party put the screws to this gutless wonder and to many others . Nothing has changed , for eight years they took the same orders from the same bosses enabling Bush to sabotage our country and they are still at it . Men ( and women ) of principle and honor aren't they ? What a pathetic bunch they are .
Must have been reassimilated by the Republiborg collective. What a snivelling coward.
Gregg must really want his successor to lose '010.
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