Forty years ago today, the seminal rock event began...and the music industry hasn't been the same since.
Pastor's Hateful Sermon on Gays and Lesbians Draws Protests in North Carolina
John Stossel Runs Hour Long Program Attacking the Poor and Our Social Safety Nets
Lawrence O'Donnell Attempts to Get Marsha Blackburn to Explain Her Previous Debt Ceiling Votes
Richard Trumka on the Jobs Summit
Tony Blair Branded 'War Criminal' in Court; Pelted With Eggs While Leaving |
Pastor's Hateful Sermon on Gays and Lesbians Draws Protests in North Carolina |
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Tony Blair Branded 'War Criminal' in Court; Pelted With Eggs While Leaving |
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Alan Simpson Still Pounding His Fist on the Table for a Grand Bargain |
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Adviser Brags Romney Told Joke About Firing Hotel Maid |
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Rick Santorum Says He 'Doesn't Feel Any Obligation' to Refute Every Birther Out There |
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Colin Powell Takes Hannity to Task for His Obsession with Bill Ayers and Rev. Wright |
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Stockman: Romney Can't Say He Learned How to Create Jobs in the Leveraged Buyout Business |
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Bill Maher Takes a Shot at the Birthers With Parody on Romney's 'Wiferism' Scandal |
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Arizona Congressional Candidate 'Pulls a Coffman' |
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Steve Rattner Says Romney Was Not A Job Creator |
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The Muppets Hit Back at Fox News |
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Colbert Makes a Mockery of Santorum Refusing to Refute Elderly Birther at Campaign Stop |
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Colin Powell Takes Hannity to Task for His Obsession with Bill Ayers and Rev. Wright |
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Grover Norquist tries put all blame on Obama for the economic mess. Grade: FAIL. CNN's Morgan: 'It's complete hogwash' |
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S.E. Cupp Attempts and Fails to Defend Paul Ryan's Immoral Budget |
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Goldman says oil to $150 a barrel.
They should know here
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China proclaims they will start cutting CO2 emissions in 2050 here
PS there won't be a 2050
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Mark Thoma after Bruce Bartlett, Keynes was a conservative. His view was that by spending big, the government was preserving capitalism, not replacing it, here
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Mike Whitney here
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A repeat, because it is good to be reminded that the Über Wealthy are even more so now.
Emmanuel Saez here (look for two glowing red Updates)
statusquObama, change you can only pretend in
If you have twitter send this to Rachel Maddow now so she will get many of these before she appears on Meet The Press later this morning.
@maddow Tell Dick Armey that RW killers Terry Nichols & killer of Tiller get free singlepayer healthcare, so why not law abiding citizens?
Read our blog http://blog.democratz.org
Debtor's revolt, Marshall Auerback here
statusquObama, change you can only pretend in
Wealth is neither created nor destroyed -- it is merely transferred to new owners.
A capitalist once said (attributes unknown) that "Recessions and depressions are merely those times in which wealth is returned to it's rightful owners."
The recession of 2007 and the subsequent economic meltdown of September 2008 was contrived fraud perpetrated on the Western World's economies by national and international bankers involved in the largest Ponzi scheme ever. It was based upon the vastly inflated synthetic value of Credit Default Swaps and Collateralized Debt Obligations. The USA's wonderful Corporate Socialist-run government (both political parties involved) decided to prop up these grossly over-valued financial instruments largely at face value, especially for those most-favored Wall Street gamblers, instead of the pennies on the dollar of their true value.
Perpetual war and overseas military adventurism, plus privatized profit but socialized risk -- the definition of fascism (or, if you will, National Socialism). The beginnings were long ago, but can be highlighted by the creation of the USA's Federal Reserve System and backed up by the illegal ratification of the 16th Amendment, which legalized the income taxes necessary to sustain Federal debt to a privately owned for-profit central bank. That, of course, plus the landmark US Supreme Court decision, Santa Clara County vs. Southern Pacific Railroad Company (118 U.S. 394 in 1886), which gave corporations the same legal rights as individuals -- the same legal rights, but without the same legal consequences.
After the National Security Act of 1947, and the presidencies of Eisenhower, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, GHW Bush and son GW Bush, the USA is now effectively a Corporate Oligarchy.
Add in the likes of the C-Street Church, and we are probably two-thirds of the way towards National Socialism. Sinclair Lewis stated that “When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.”
Welcome to the dark side ...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
-- John F. Kennedy
with all that TARP money, why not wreck the economy again, just to prolong the agony.
Some stuff you can't make up!
Haven't you heard? The rate of decline of job loss was surprising last month. Let's get the prices back up on everything because we'll really see some consumer spending now.
the economy shrunk 2% last quarter. if that continues, we may get into a deflationary cycle which will destroy profitability and prolong the recovery or worsen the recession.
Some stuff you can't make up!
"the music industry hasn't been the same since."
The technology for playing and distributing the music industry hasn't been the same since.
piss off self-indulgent, wasteful, self-obsessed, self-absorbed useless, middle-class, reactionary boomer WANKERS
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Those crazy kids back then who staged sit ins and protests against a war, were arrested for refusing to be drafted into that war or merely for protesting it,volunteered by the thousands for the peace corps, got the ball really rolling on feminism,civil rights and environmentalism. Those kids right? Self indulgent and useless you say. Compared to what?:the current crop, who barely spare the time from their video games and twittering to make a snarky post on a political blog. Such commitment. Such an example.
they are too young to have stood in front of police to oppose a social wrong. how many times have they stood up for someone just because they saw something wrong going on?
Some stuff you can't make up!
Generation Y is the most tolerant, left-leaning generation on record. Generation Y is the reason why things like Prop 8 will eventually fail, and one of many reasons why, barring a catastrophe or unfathomable competence from the Democrats, the Republicans will not return to power in all three branches of the government any time soon.
And for the record, playing video games and exercising one's mind is light year's ahead of mindlessly sitting in front of a TV.
And the parents of the Y'ers were the B Boomers influenced by the whole DFH vibe.
against generation x,y or z but they have no right to complain about the boomers either.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
with what happened, is how it was depicted in old movies, which was always right on the money.
this reply, attributed to MsJoanne, was actually written by me, I neglected to log in under my own account while using her computer. My bad.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
it was the 70s that was self obsessed...right after nam ended
not the 60s
whatever it was that was supposed to be so wonderful about woodstock......I just don't get it.........too old I guess.....:)
Great music.
Great people.
A life changing experience.
(I was there)
whatever!!
Responding with "whatever" is not only rude to the extreme, it is self-defeating, in that once you express the sentiment that you don't care what someone says, it follows that discourse with you is only a oneway street and further communication with you is pointless. Basically, what you are saying is that you are not worthy.
for your kind words
The Dirty F*cking Hippies Were Right
Right on unjust war, right on the environment, right on making this world a better place. Most Americans have yet to live up to their standards.
Politics is for the present, but an equation is for eternity. Albert Einstein
Woodstock documentary to see what the fuss was all about. Honestly it was just "ok" to me, maybe I just needed to be alive during that time period to really appreciate it. :)
I did catch Woodstock '99 a few years later to see some of my favorite bands go at it, but of course there was a lot of disgracefulness at that one and probably left a few baby boomers shaking their heads...
(I do know that I enjoyed Megadeth and Metallica's sets however)
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
you were watching a movie about it. It was a truly remarkable event for its time. The later" woodstocks" had little resemblance to the original.
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"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
i think for the first time when i was 15...and i was blown away
of course, i grew up in sf, where our sunday outings were treks to hippie hill in golden gate park
i also got to experience more than a few free concerts in the park by the likes of the dead and the airplane...but nothing on the scale of woodstock
buy the time i was old enough to attend concerts on my own, janice and jimmi were dead...zepplin had stopped touring, and everyone else was playing the overpriced stadium shows like day on the green (which i refused to attend on principle)
so im still thankful that there is both audio and vid of the event
It was, for the most part, amazing: tons of young people gathered, sang, danced, played music, drank, smoked, banged, etc. Nobody hurt or killed. Just the opposite of what the U.S. was doing in 'Nam at the time. Also, note the lack of tech back then: no cells, computers, etc. Kinda cool.
+1.
of the anti-war, resistance moves and people were protesting our government's actions in Vietnam and the draft. People were being tear gassed, arrested en masse for exercising their Constitutional rights.
Why do you think we no longer have a draft? Because people rose up against it.
Do some reading on what the political climate was at the time. We were dealing with the paranoid political crook Richard Nixon. In the midst of all the turmoil, here was three days of several thousand people gathering in one spot with all the musical groups that were there and there were no murders, no road rage, and hatred.
There hadn't been anything like it and there hasn't been anything like it since then.
(peace & love) over the spirit of the early 2000's (fear and hate) any day.
How I long for the old days ...
that the young finally realize how bad they are getting fucked and stand up as we did in the day.
Talking about pure impact on the music industry, the only thing that beats the birth of MTV is the ability to record music.
Think about it.
Before MTV if you wanted to be in the music business, you had to, for the most part, impress someone in the music business with your musical skill, whatever it may be. Once MTV came on the scene, musical skill took a distant back seat to marketability. Who cared how they sounded, if they looked good on camera, the biz would drop a bundle on marketing, get one good album (good as measured by sales) then let them sink or swim on their own merit. The lesson of MTV was: They public will buy music if it looks good. Sounding good became far less important. Up to 1980 the vast majority of musical stars were masters of their craft. Now, musical craftsmanship means far FAR less than does marketability.
Pre-MTV: Jimi Hendrix
Post-MTV: Debbie Gibson
Not saying good music can't be made today, just that the current business dynamic greatly reduces the chance of it happening.
P.S. Dagnabit!
P.P.S. Get off my lawn!
and that was a bad thing or a good thing, depending on how you look at it... On the one hand, it sort of ended many talented careers because the musicians weren't camera-ready, and also gave people who wouldn't otherwise be good enough a career.
And yet, on the other hand, I love me a well-made music video that makes me think and want to disect the symbolism in it! :)
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
the air, so I can't remember a time when there wasn't MTV. I feel like I'm a bit worse off for it.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
I'm not sure I've heard such a simple, yet sadly painful clause in recent years! I'm not trying to denigrate you or the years in which you've lived. It's just that I've never heard of anyone use MTV as a scale with which to measure time!!
As a 46-year-old, I watched MTV for about 2-3 weeks when it debuted; I haven't watched it since. Thanks for letting me know what year that was...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
And I'm surprised you hadn't heard someone measure time that way. Back when I was a senior in high school, there was a chain email going around that I guess was supposed to make older people feel, well, older, and it said things such as "to today's seniors, there has always been MTV," and they had others like "John Paul II has always been pope," and "AIDS has always been part of their world."
Anyway, I do really believe I'm worse off for it. I love a lot of pre-MTV music, as well as lot of newer stuff that doesn't make it onto MTV. You have to think outside the box to add those tastes to your musical palate! :)
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
the fuckers
and now...they dont even play music videos anymore
VH1 Classic every now and again...
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
Clear Channel killed the radio.
'Talk to the hand'
Good post.
MTV killed the radio star, good music, taste, and rock and roll.
Actually, the station doesn't even broadcast videos anymore. They inadvertanely (sp) killed themselves.
The MTV aesthetic of an unmotivated cut every 5 seconds is a horrible legacy too.
MTV Get Off The Air.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xelyOc3butA
Love that song! :)
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
when music created images INSIDE your head.
On a side note, just before the beginning of MTV, very early eighties, I was a cinematographer on a project in Hollywood...when one day the producer came up to me and said she was producing a "music video with Madonna", and would I shoot it. After she explained to me what a "music video" was...I told her HELL NO...and that I wasn't interested in working with Christian bands...hated that crap.
"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face?" - General Jack D. Ripper
http://www.newsweek.com/id/211496?GT1=43002
the dude left woodstock before it was over, wasnt into the vibe at all, and therefore declares the event to be overhyped
come on...whats the big deal about over half a mil people showing up to an event for 3 days and no major incidents occuring...despite all the problems that were on the ground
guess mark forgot all about altamont, or the who concert in cinci...or the attempts to revisit woodstock with corporate concerts
so mark...who cares if you went to see janice or zepp at their first american concert...you were a fucking wimp
and dude, you left before jimmi played...which makes you an idiot
buying their school supplies... I have to do that come Monday, as I'll be going back to college.
I'm very thankful I'm able to put some money in a savings account to hang onto for these things... With Ahnold taking the ax to community colleges, I believe I have more expenses in my future where I would normally have fin aid...
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
a bit much at times, i really had no business being there at age 15 but wow...did i ever learn me some stuff!
watkins glen summerjam in 1973 was a bigger concert tho. 600,000.
Why We Need Health Care Reform
By BARACK OBAMA
Published: August 15, 2009
OUR nation is now engaged in a great debate about the future of health care in America. And over the past few weeks, much of the media attention has been focused on the loudest voices. What we haven’t heard are the voices of the millions upon millions of Americans who quietly struggle every day with a system that often works better for the health-insurance companies than it does for them. ...
Some stuff you can't make up!
Gay couples have kiss-ins in Utah. Being a Bollywood actor won't keep airport authorities from profiling you. Armey the Dick quits his firm after being outed in conjunction with those town-hall protesters. Gates approximates the duration of our stay in Afghanistan to "a few years". States hate helping out college students. Democratic diplomacy saves another one of our hostages. Police stop a stand-off over an anti-Obama nut. Brits don't like Repug anti-socialized health care talking points. Cali's prison system is a mess, mostly because Repugs want us to keep paying for prisoners, even though they don't want to raise taxes to do it. Afghanistan's polls are rigged. GOP shills back away from the death panel card. A Utah paper doesn't care about gay couples. Global warming lights California for another summer. Maria Sell-out doesn't practice what her mom preached, or she'd demand Arnie stop fucking over the less-fortunate in the state. The first Gulf War vet casualty is laid to rest. A photogenic torture war criminal is stopped from giving a speech at a university, for some reason.
A Tale of Two Nations: the Civil War may have been won by the North, but in truth the South never emotionally conceded.
Submitted by mark karlin on Sat, 08/15/2009 - 10:23am.
By Mark Karlin
The Civil War may have been won by the North, but in truth the South never emotionally conceded.
The Town Hall mobs, the birthers, the teabaggers are all part of that long line of “coded” agitators for the notions of white entitlement and “conservative values.”
Of course, this conservative viewpoint values cheap labor and unabated use of natural resources over technological and economic innovation. It also – and this is its hot molten core – fundamentally believes that white people are born with a divine advantage over people of other skin colors, and are chosen by God to lead the heathen hordes.
That a Town Hall mob is itself a heathen horde would never occur to the economically stressed whites who listen to the lies of the likes of Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and Lou Dobbs. Lies that confirm an emotionally reinforcing worldview – however heinous – become truths for those in psychological need of feeling superior and chosen.
Of course, when you start stirring the pot of race -- in order to preserve the status quo of entrenched power and wealth – you emerge with a stew of hate boiling over and ready to explode into full-fledged violence.
[Edited. You may not reprint lengthy text from your own works or those of others. You may link to them. Please limit excerpts to 3 paragraphs-Sitemonitor]
Some stuff you can't make up!
At the time of the Civil War most Southerners owned no slaves. They were poor dirt farmers.
Most of the slaves were owned by plantations which still had strong economic ties to Great Britain.
It was the plantation owners who decided to secede, not the dirt farmers.
But the dirt farmers bore the brunt of the war, both as soldiers and as civilian casualties, not just of the war itself but the subsequent Reconstruction when The South was occupied by Northern troops and ravaged by the CarpetBaggers. The resentment runs deep. Even today.
Yeah the dirt farmers lost.
And the great irony is that they cleave to the very Republican Party that was mostly responsible for heaping that humiliation upon them.
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
they were more democratic and the northerners were the republicans.
Actually the Democratic Party convention split along North-South lines the year that Lincoln as elected. That's why the South seceded as soon as Lincoln was nominated - the Southern Dems knew he'd be the next president since the Democratic party was divided. The war began before Lincoln took office.
The Northern Dems were called "War Democrats" and largely represented the Northern industrial interests, who allied themselves with the MidWestern industrialists to crush the agricultural South, thus industrializing the nation.
The Republican Party had just come into existence in 1854, embracing the "wedge-issue" of the day - they backed the abolitionists. The industrialists wanted wage-slaves, not bond-slaves, so of course they backed abolition, for purely self interested economic reasons.
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
was based on the southern strategy by Nixon or Reagan but I'm not that educated on which.
Our media hasn't been real upfront with the real history.
oh well...
Some stuff you can't make up!
They're just saying post a link. I'd like to read your stuff if you do.
it's mostly the folks that somehow felt they lost their superiorty over another fine class of people.
The question for their panel was on the popularity of Obama by the time mid-terms roll around. They were actually saying that they could lose 30 or 40 seats in the house. These people think that us citizens are really that stupid and in some cases, they are right but I don't think the majority are.
Remember - these guys are used to a hard core base of idiots that willingly let re-Thugs jerk them around by the rings in their noses. Most of them are already conditioned by their church pulpit to accept any garbage or nonsense without question. They are trying to drive those of us that are unhappy with Obama into Re-Thug arms.
It ain't gonna' happen.
We remember how this country got into this abysmal condition and - especially - who's responsible.
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Two hundred soldiers in Afghanistan.
How do you lose a casualty????
I apologize for my levity - it is VERY sad.
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You knew you were being a smart-a$$ when you posted (you even included an apology) and still you did it.
You can go to this site and sign a petition to urge WalMart to stop advertising on Glenn Beck's show.
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anything that helps put food in Beck's mouth, I'm happy to support.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Mmmmmm... When the liberals wanted to protest Bush they were put into the Free Speech Zones and no one heard from them.
In 1969 I was 22 years old, and I was drafted into the Army on July 23, 1969. I was politically conservative, a small minority of my college-educated generation, but the world I was in was no longer the world of the 1950's that I had found so sterile and numbing. As part of that generation I challenged speaker bans that kept people like Dr. Martin Luther King from speaking at the University of Maryland. In the mid-70's I went to Europe to live for 5 years to find a different way. And, I can't say that my generation has left the world much better than we found it, but at least with our children we remember what it was like to be young.
Someone sub titled Joe Cocker.
He must have been trippin' pretty hard.
It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it.
-George Carlin
and probably easier to understand than anything Joe Cocker ever did in his completely stoned faze of his career.
Woodstock......a big ol' dopefest that started out as a peaceful protest. Of course it was peaceful. Everyone was too damn stoned to cause any kind of ruckus. Pretty sad when a concert regarded as one of the great changes in American history, was nothing more than a bunch of kids getting higher than a kite, and leading to severe drug problems for millions (including overdoses) in the next decade. Ya, good times. Now pass the coke, and the LSD man. Oh wow, I sees pretty colours. Oh ya, stop the war. Where are the potato chips, I gots the munchies.
always seemed a little lemming-like to me but I am a pre-Baby Boomer by a couple of years. I didn't go to the concert out of skepticism and I was happy for that decision. My cousin had to sleep on his motorcycle during the deluge.
Nevertheless, I've always enjoyed the movie and the videos from the concert and already had vinyls by most of the performers including Joe Cocker.
I agree that this "closed caption" version is very funny and would have been to all of us back then.
I was about a year too young, too stuck in rural middle America and too, too working class to take time off from my night shift summer factory job (for which I was considered lucky to make $1.75/hour hammering harrow weeder belts together by hand in a sweltering quanset hut) to say, "Sure, let's just take a week or two and ramble off to New York and get high." So I must admit I feel some of the class resentment about middle and upper class twits and their mega party whenever the nostalgia comes up.
why so many had to kill so many braincells to protest. And this did what?
Politician #1: "Good Lord, we better take these protestors seriously. Look at how stoned they are. They are all liable to make a run on the local convenience stores and drive up the price of chips"
Not sure, but think it's a highly over exaggerated piece of American history. No politician anywhere, even to this day, is afraid of stoned protestors.
"Nobody move, or these potato chips take it hard"
ain't dead by any means.
that is what drugs do. That's why you get "drunk" and "high". Not that there is anything wrong with anyone that does it, but, as I said, this did what? Politics were changed how? If people honestly think Woodstock influenced political decisions in any way, they are being seriously deluded. Millions of sober people the world over marched in protest to the Iraq invasion, and from the US government the response was.....go f*ck yourselves.
"None of the medical tests currently used to detect brain damage in humans have found harm from marijuana, even from long term high-dose use."
By our discovering that the government regularly lies to its citizens. On this issue since the thirties.
"If people honestly think Woodstock influenced political decisions in any way, they are being seriously deluded."
Way too simplistic, as was your rant on the drug use. Maybe the mystique of Woodstock is overblown, but it was a significant event for it's time. Many social observations about the 1960's can be extracted from it. It was a political event, a music festival, a social interaction, even an exercise in adaptability of a group under adverse conditions (see weather and hygeine facilities). There were many different things happening all at one time. It was a communal gathering of a shit load of people.
Folks could get stoned wherever they wanted. So why did they go to Woodstock?
"Someday somebody related to some of these sufferers, these victims, these collaterally damaged souls, may try to kill you. And I have to tell you, I think you’ll have it coming." - Christopher Cooper
On a sunny and not too hot Saturday in Atlanta, the right wingnut noise machine put on a 'protest' against Healthcare reform. The 'protest' put on by Dick Armey, Ralph Reed (abramoff buddy & psycho jesus pimp of Erik Prince proportions), and the other ususal suspect astroturf town hall mob creators fell well short of the 'expected' 15,000. According to AJC, Atlanta police estimated the official count at 3,000. Also according to the AJC several 'protesters' arrived by bus from Alabama which the event spokespeople counted as 'local residents' (LOL!).
So to recap....
A) Perfect weather conditions on a Saturday afternoon in the heart of the neo-confederate capital of the south - check
B) Full astroturf advertising of this 'event' for over a month - check
C) 1/5 of the expected turnout with several bussed in from Alabama - fail
D) Months of 'planning'...err astroturf organizing and probably close to a million spent (Reed doesn't 'speak' for free) to 12,000 less than what they had anticipated - epic fail
On another note there are now 8,902 members of the Boycott Whole Foods facebook group...
My wife & I are proud to be part of... A clear case of a company that doesn't understand who is shopping in their stores....well, they'll feel this in the next quarterly report....
We don't inherit the Earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children - Native American proverb
If being cold means there's no such thing as global warming, does being full mean there's no such thing as world hunger?
From the UK's Guardian.
read more
Politics is for the present, but an equation is for eternity. Albert Einstein
we've gone from hendrix, joplin and the who to spears, the kardashians (sic?), the jonas bros and miley on the pole.
--exhausting sigh---
the corporate takeover will never allow a poignant political note to be aired again. pink on kimmel was a lonely exception.
wall street + inurance/ama + clear channel = the end of america.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYIC0eZYEtI&fe...
is EXCELLENT! And, despite the recent trend toward these shows to be about man beating down nature, they don't actually advocate draining the oceans. Instead, they show what sonar (yeah, I know...) and satellite mapping are capable of doing. Science, but easy enough for even Rethugs to absorb (I'm guessing...) Narrated by James Earl Jones.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
just post a link man, that's all they're saying. I'd like to read your stuff.
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