Sunday Morning Bobblehead Thread
By Nicole Belle Sunday Oct 19, 2008 4:00am"No More Kings" from Schoolhouse Rock
It's stunning to me that 30 years later, I can still recite the Preamble and describe the process in which a bill becomes a law thanks to Schoolhouse Rock. All those songs are lodged deep in the recesses of my brain. And it occurred to me this week that there are many in positions of power in this country who need some refresher courses in history, government and all the rights we fought hard to have here. But given the anti-intellectualism of the new McCarthyites like Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin and John McCain, perhaps it would be best to ease them into it with some Schoolhouse Rock.
The big story this week is whether Colin Powell, appearing on Meet the Press, will endorse Barack Obama. And if he does, will the McCain campaign dismiss him as being too...partisan?
ABC's "This Week" - Newt Gingrich, former GOP speaker of the House.
CBS' "Face the Nation" - Virginia Democratic Gov. Tim Kaine; Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla.; Missouri Republican Gov. Matt Blunt; former Rep. Rob Portman, R-Ohio.
NBC's "Meet the Press" - Former Secretary of State Colin Powell.
CNN's "Late Edition" - Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo.; Rep. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., House minority whip; former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani; Rep. Artur Davis, D-Ala.; Ed Lazear, chairman, White House Council on Economic Advisers.
"Fox News Sunday" - Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.
"The Chris Matthews Show" - Panel: Mark Whitaker, Katty Kay, Kathleen Parker, Andrew Sullivan. Topics: Can McCain rescue his campaign as the economy sinks? Who benefits as McCain and Obama question each other's character?
So what's catching your eye this morning?
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as a young student, it was Chicano Power and Free Thought!
"Progressive"? Obama endorsers aren't "progressive"...they're hopeful.
Hope was the last thing to come out of Pandora's box. Nothing wrong with hope at the start of your journey of CHANGE.
Forget the Powell Buzz, McCain Receives Endorsement of The National Enquirer
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=4133
I was just thinking about the National Inquirer and how silent they have gone, of late.
I watched it but turned off the volume on Teevee...
As soon as you mentioned the Preamble, I started singing it.
Sadly, too many people need to watch it ... and not for nostalgic reasons, either.
i learned how bills got killed in congress
no one has done an educational series to match it
what was also cool was the cbs newsbreaks for kids
made me feel important
Everybody is sitting in front of their Telly's and waiting to see if Powell Endorses Obama on MTP.
I can't get it here and they don't release the Video's until three hours later on the internet.
Someone come back on here and let me know what goes on.... Please?
Brokaw was on the Today Show this morning and when asked about Powell endorsing Obama today on MTP Brokaw acted like that didn't matter. He is such a tool for the Republican party these days. Brokaw's glory days are past and he is forever tarnished in my opinion. Please retire Tom.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj0jqLNe2uU
to my mind.
Considering Powell testified for the defense of Alaska Sen Ted Stevens last month, I really don't give a flying fig who Powell "endorses".
Personally, that's one endorsement I think we can do without.
Although, I think none of us can argue that at the stage where we are, and with the landscape as it is, if Powell endorses Obama it will be the final stage in cementing his acceptance to the mainstream electorate. Colin Powell is about the most prototypical bi-partisan-y kind of figure for Americans... He's the 'canary in the coal mine.'
And now Powell has indeed endorsed Obama. But even if his endorsement is a bit philosophically repulsive, it still represents a severe blow to the morale of the McCain camp. It's just that much harder to pump up your military POW credentials, when a person of Powell's stature is endorsing the other guy.
gotta hand it to ted...he picked up alot of pals in washington
And, whenever my computer is slow, I think the tubes are clogged (and see his cranky clueless face.). Yup, Ted is always good for a laugh.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/19/7392...
"So what's catching your eye this morning?"
The view out my bathroom window!
http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/worldnews/...
Thanks I needed that.
at least at my church they do. Just got back from 7:30 Mass, and sat through another homily where we're told that we need to vote according to God's will, and vote for the pro-life candidate. In a round-about way, the priests at my church compare democrats to Hitler and compare legal abortions to the holocaust.
and turn your church in to the IRS, since they are not supposed to talk politics in church.
Yes, I would even go to church wearing a wire to catch them engaging in Un-American Activity.
right here.
Someone posted that some church in Cincinnati has something up on their website endorsing Palin (and dissing Obama) and I can't locate the specific page for that is just what I was going to do...turn them in.
If church wants to be involved in government, let them start by paying taxes. *I* have to pay taxes. They can, too.
attending church if all they're going to be preaching at you is political crap and/or mythical nonsense??
No sweat, MTP starts in 2 minutes on the east coast. In the mean time .... With all the news about Obama , 150 million in Sept., 100,000 in St. Louis, I was struck that he crossed the state and drew 75,000 Kansas City.
According to McCain on FnS, Obama has raised "$200 Million" that has been "unaccounted for".
(...)
Wallace: "As far as I can tell, he's done nothing illegal."
McCain invokes "Watergate" in his defense.
Republican form of Penis Envy
Still no Sarah..and Powell can go go pound sand..murderer...
...under Obama's plan", says McCain.
Wallace: "Let me ask you straight out: Is Senator Obama a Socialist?"
(...)
Wallace: "But you suggested the government buy up mortgages. Isn't that Socialism?"
Colin Powel at this moment.
He's ripping into Mccain and the GOP.
:(
Powell is not only endorsing Obama, but he's doing a great job of spelling out exactly why McCain and the Republicans are troubling. It's extremely simple, easy to understand reasoning which should help the idiot masses make up their minds. Should, but probably won't...
Powell endorses Obama
I couldn't help but notice Powel citing Obama's "Intellectually curiosity" as a factor in his decision.
I suspect he's thinking about a disastrous President he knows that isn't.
McCain calls the two (2000 vs today) "radically different".
radically different! The calls about McCain's black baby in 2000 and the calls about the black man "pallin' around" with terrorists in 2008
are both attempts at character assassination by rascist pigs like Rove!!
First of all, it was weird that he even brought up the "some people will say this is just a case of an African American supporting another African American." I doubt he just brought this up in order to let Powell rebut it, but maybe he did... I dunno.
But seriously, WHAT does Powell have to do with the whole Ayers thing? Powell shouldn't have even answered him, as part of his endorsement message was "McCain brings up Ayers saying he's a washed-up terrorist, so why talk about him?" Seriously, Brokaw, why even ask Powell of all people about Ayers? Was he prepared to ask him about Keating had Powell endorsed McCain?
If there was a reward (the "softey") for the newsman who has caved most to the Republican's strong-arm tactics to manipulate and propagandize the press, Brokaw would win it this year.
brokaw did the race thing to feed the republican race war campaigning. powell probably gave his endorsement to chase whites away from Obama. there has never been a reason to believe that powell no longer works for the boosh crime family.
Brokaw is hereby officially a tool, and I believe it's for the simple reason that he thinks McCain will be better for protecting his own personal millions. Not only has he lost all journalistic credibility, he apparently just doesn't mind slanting his bias in a way that serves the few against the many.
Maybe Fox News will have an opening for him.
Indeed FOX woulod be a great fit.
In response to the news Powell is endorsing Obama, McCain says he has "the endorsement of 4 former SoS's: Kissenger, Baker, Eagleberger and Hague".
Some list.
I'm sure that list will change some minds... NOT!
eagleberger alone is worth a climb of .00004 points in West Dakota! that quite a boost for mcStain.
I'll meet your Kissinger, Baker, Eagleberger and Hague, and I'll raise you one Colin Powell, millions of middle income angry taxpaying voters and 270 electorial votes.
but the man's name is Haig - not Hague - that;s the place we hope to see people like Kissinger, Bush and Cheney
"No one is beyond the law or beyond the reach of international justice".
Carla del Ponte, former Chief Prosecutor, The Hague
Current Swiss Ambassador to Argentina
International justice should also apply to people like Dr. Iyad Allawi and his stupid, red-haired Russian wife. Mrs. Allawi deliberately rams her car into a pedestrian in London and then accuses the traffic cop of misconduct. The Allawi family from Iraq, along with their Chalabi cousins, should be thrown out of the European Union and their relatives in the USA should be deported from there as well.
...and 67 newspaper editorial boards versus 18 for McCain.
Don't forget to include Nancy Pfotenhauer in your list of McCarthyites with her Real Virginia comment.
Video: http://tpzoo.wordpress.com/2008/10/18/pfotenh...
they'll try to start a civil war before they accept the truth of defeat.
you home yet?
I am home at the moment...flying out in a couple of hours. Minnie-sota here I come!
As for Powell, he can pack sand. He is as much a war criminal as the rest of them. Perhaps he will hold sway for some Goopers, which is good. As far as I am concerned, fuck him. The Hague, baby.
CIP, why did you find SNL funny? I thought Palin was lame and the show surrounding her was even lamer. Do tell, babes, cause I didn't get it.
trust me! the part with baldwin was priceless. I think NBC forced the appearance of plain on SNL and the cast went ballistic in their owm way, showing plain for the joke that she is. it looked like fey wouldn't share any space with plain.
There is nothing on the freeper sites about Palin on SNL.
repeat please?
......As for Powell, he can pack sand. He is as much a war criminal as the rest of them. Perhaps he will hold sway for some Goopers, which is good. As far as I am concerned, fuck him. The Hague, baby......
Agreed. Let's look at Powell's former associates. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Allawi, Chalabi, Abdullah just to name a few war criminals.
Tina Fey did some good stuff, and they left Palin to watch 'helplessly'. The rap song was hilarious, especially all the guns being fired, like she's a killing machine, and the song was funny in its own right.
false equivalence at tweetyville.
NASTY BITCH PALIN ON SNL WAS ROASTED MERCILESSLY
Powell, for what it is worth, was still a commanding general and a member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. If Powell endorses Obama over the self touted "man who knows how to win wars" McCain then McCain's platform revolving around his military and foreign policy experience is dead in the water. It will be another statement that says Obama has better judgment and wisdom when it comes to foreign affairs than McCain.
Yeah, how hollow will it sound next time McCain says he knows how to win wars, when Powell himself doesn't trust him with the job?
I wonder if Brokaw would have been as hard on Powell if Powell had endorsed McCain?
Oh no... he would have been slobbering all over Powell, and beating the drum for McCain. I haven't seen the interview yet... comes on here until 9:30 and it's only 8:30... I can already see Brokaw's shoulders drop when Powell says he's voting Obama..
I am watching Powell taking questions on MSNBC now that suppose to be live. I like what he said about the Ayer's bull.
If that is true that Powell has endorsed Obama (I haven't seen the interview yet either as it is only 7:40AM my time) then the wind has just left McCain's sails. Nothing says your incompetent on military or foreign affairs matters quite like a General who spent his whole career carrying out those types of missions. McCain's whole campaign platform revolved around his experience in those two areas. This is a huge blow to McCain that is for sure.
He'd probably have blown him on nat tv.
Brokaw is NBC's liaison to the mcStain campaign.
what else can be expected.
FnS: McCain: "Don't feel sorry for me if I lose."
Good, now we don't have to feel guilty if we don't vote for you. :)
Ok John, whatever. You are still a sorry person, win or lose.
Well, I DO feel sorry for him -- in the same way that we "feel sorry" for the third-grade schoolyard bully who gets his ass whipped by a first-grader.
Great news if you want the moron percentage that still supports Dick Bush in the WhiteHouse. The man is a lying murderer. I didn't watch it. Did he happen to do a complete speech with drawings like he did at the UN? If you are getting endorsed by the Establishment, your change meme blows out the window. This whole election is getting to look more and more like yet another scam to piss on the electorate. Too bad. I too thought Obama just might represent change. Public endorsement by lying killers represents the opposite.
We do want that...every vote is a vote, no matter who casts it. Only reason I give two shits about Powell is that he attracts the kind of people Obama needs - not Obama's "base." Fox is going to excoriate Powell. Rush already wall all out war on Bill Kristol and others calling THEM elitists and other shit.
Who cares...I love to watch them eat their own.
Would you not rather see the one's responsible for the mass killings in the MidEast on trial, rather than having praise heaped on them for supporting Obama?
powell's endorsement is simply to poison the well - to create a racial angle to use against Obama. Powell is still doing the work of the boosh crime family.
The Fox panel is talking about Obama's "tax plan" and "Joe the Plumber", accusing him of wanting to "redistribute the wealth".
Well, when you want to give the lower 95% less of a tax break so the top 5% get a bigger break, what's that???
that goes with the socialist accusations.
barack used the word "share", I believe.
You have to remember that in mccain supporter land those who make less then 250 grand are lazy and deserve nothing. They should be slaves to the hard working backbone of America that makes over 250 grand, in mccain supporter land.
There is much truth in that statement. That is the entire American system in a nutshell.
Lemme see if I got this right:
A former GOP official who NEVER distinguished himself as a man of principle when he was in the Govt, and who lied to the Country and to the UN, endorsed the Bushevik ICORP of Iraq, and helped lead the Country into the most disastrous military debacle in 40 years, now switches over to “our” side, and it’s 'good news' for US? “We’re” supposed to be delighted by this information?
Explain this thing to me, please…
he's struggling to remain relevant and he's also poisoning the well - a bushie supporting Obama.
fux will spin it racially, i'm willing to bet.
They didn't mention "race", but they did dismiss it as "expected".
for future War Crimes indictments??
What puzzles me as well is the fact that apparently Powell has been advising Obama for some time now, yet although Powell continues to state that Georgia's Saakashvili was the aggressor in South Ossetia Obama continues to parrot the B.S. that Russia was the aggressor.
Go figure.
I was thinking the same thing Abby. "I'll publicly endorse you if you save my ass from any kind of legal messes from this Iraq fiasco"
Obama has Zbigniew Brezinski on his team. oBAM A DOES NOT NEED ANOTHER COLON!
can someone explain why Obama is suddenly dropping in the polls. My own thought is that it's the Diebold Prelude - when the polling gets manipulated to conform to the anticipated result of planned electronic voting.
As Rachel Maddow says, "someone talk me down"!
The media inflates the polls continually. EVERY election's "poll numbers" have been wrong since the dawn of time. Only time the polls were right was the last two elections basically, and the media knew ahead of time who would win.
The polls really haven't changed.
They're just citing the "closer" polls more frequently because they want a horse race.
At the end of the day, polls mean nothing. It depends on how many actually vote. Our election up here in Canaduh probably would have had much different results, had Canadians actually cared enough to vote. Smallest voter turn out in Canadian history. Here is hoping your numbers are higher or the results will be close. Die hard political junkies always vote along party lines and are fairly evenly divided. It's the rest of the nation that is needed.
it will take overwhelming numbers to win. the "landslide" in 2006 still translated to about a 4% or so margin of victory. I believe the "undecideds" are the bradley-effect voters. If it's the 4-5% I've been hearing, than barack must win by at least 10 percentage points in many areas because of electronic voting - at least 10%. that will be no small feat in fla, oh, pa, ca, mi, co, az.
....really tell the story.
I believe it was in this excellent documentary, "Hacking Democracy" that I learned the importance of "exit polling" on Election Day. Here's the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hNxBa6KENE&fe...
Historically they say that you can take an instant true "snapshot" of the vote with exit polling. In many elections where the "final result" has been questioned, it was the exit polling results that suggested shysterism going on.
Personally I think it would be great for Obama if he started slipping in "the polls". That might cause the more complacent voters to get out and vote!
I agree! The press across the board has been playing the "complacent Obama" meme after the 2nd debate. just doing their job, I suppose.
Kristol: "If the Red Sox win today, McCain wins the election. That's my prediction."
Citing the "young Tampa Bay team" vs. "the older Red Sox."
I have this list of 100 daily papers, and I've been watching the early voting reports on google news as well, and there is one pattern that has appeared and it ain't going away :
Floyd County, Indiana -
“I’ve never seen anything like this, in any election,” said Floyd County Clerk Linda Moeller. “We’ve never had anything like this.”
http://www.newsandtribune.com/local/local_sto...
100 papers :
http://www.wheretodoresearch.com/News/US_News...
Colin Powell is very smart individual.. He was misled on the Iraq war though the same way our congress was misled. He's partially culpable for that and I think he knows that..but I dont think you should dismiss him entirely because of that anymore than you should dismiss the our house and senate members who voted for the war.
His endorsement of Obama was amazing. Very thoughtful and his comments were actually inspiring. Regardless of your political ideology.. its good to see that people still respect intellectual integrity and are able to make decisions based on a standard other than party affiliation.
His comments that you shouldnt have to defend yourself about whether you are or arent a muslim and his story about the muslim american soldier who died in Iraq were very poignant. I
but as I said before, Powell was a well respected Commanding General in the Army and a member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. For Powell to endorse Obama over McCain speaks volumes. This is exactly what Obama needed.
Joe O. translation:
Colin Powell: Wrong. Very Wrong. Very, very Wrong. Horribly Wrong.
Now right. And it speaks volumes.
Now maybe you can't get beyond Powell's display at the UN or his involvement in the lead up to the Iraq war. Look further back though and you will see that Powell was and still is a respected former Commanding General in Army. Not to mention the fact that he was a former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of staff. An endorsement by Powell is exactly what Obama needed and its a slap in the face to McCain.
Powell is a mass murdering political puppet and nothing more. He rose through the ranks of the military because he was easily misled? I think not.
Powell knew as did all the members of the Foreign intelligence committee. Durbin admitted that he knew the intel was bullshit but BY LAW was not able to say anything. He voted against AUMF because he knew the intel was bad and told the others in congress that they should to...that was all he could do.
I called and let his office have an earful over that.
Don't be fooled by it...they knew. Powell knew.
powell = POS
you're not verified, CIP?
so I'm in no hurry to signon. call it vanity, I guess.
You're here!! I like that.
let's keep driving the sane!
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Hey, give Colin a break....non-threatening light-skinned bargainers have to stick together.
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/01112008/wa...
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Misled? Misled? If he is that easily "misled" he had no business being SoS. Coerced might be more life it, but then I question his "moral" authority/integrity. As a general he knew how many death warrants he signed. Not just American GI's, but across the Middle East. It also enabled the Bush war machine, illegal wiretaps, dubious charges of terrorist being lobbed at individuals in a McCarhty-esque fashion (etc., etc., etc.) and a string of secret international prisons where they torture people.
It does deliver a strong and calculated blow to the neocons and McCain (which is good), but...
To me, one can't be "moral" sometimes. You either are or you aren't.
This planet is all about trust. The economy is based on trust, alliances are based on trust, and I judge people by trust. I like to feel I can trust someone, or I jettison them with the other flotsam.
On Meet the Press, I think Joe just talked about the "wealth distribution" nonsense, saying it's taking from the wealthy to give tax breaks to don't pay taxes. How does that work?
powells a douchbag and andy jackson was an asshole ask any cherokee!
You are as intelligent as a bag nails.
says the dipstick to the engine!
Must be an "old-tyme" saying. Touche tyree.
Powell's endorsement goes right along with the campaign contributions Obama received from the military and veterans like myself. Obama received 5 to 6 times the amount of military donations that McCain did. The troops have spoken as to who they think has the better judgment and wisdom when it comes to military affairs. Powell just punctuated what was already known.
Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America: With the new president in office next year, America will have the chance to turn the page on the way veterans were treated after Vietnam. Here are the top 10 actions the new president must take: LINK
It is my personal belief that Powell was lied to. I do believe that.
This admin has lied repeatedly, and we all know that.
I'll give Powell the benefit of the doubt on this particular issue.
What he has done is, put himself in the cross hairs of the far right. Surely they will attack him now . More eating their own.
But I feel he will make some moderate republicans think more about their vote. He also has probably secured alot of Independent voters for Obama.
I'll take anything at this point that will put Obama in office.
the fingerpaints at the UN should tell you something! you're better than that!
This is just mass murderer Powell attempting to use his "get out of jail free" card. Nothing more. Powell is a lying sack of crap. I truly believe that. Generals don't get misled. Hell if they did, they wouldn't be generals. He knew it was all bogus. And his endorsement in my opinion is similar to Charles Manson giving locations of dead corpses in return for immunity from prosecution.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
Convince me. If you can provide me with unbiased facts that he was in collusion with this admin with the build up to Iraq.
I can't provide you any any such facts that he was lied to.
So I'm willing to be open to any and all info.
My gut is all I have. And judging by the way Boosh and Cheney manipulated both the Senate and House. I'm going with my gut.
So, by saying the Foreign Intelligence Committee was up on the truth. Are you implying that Biden new as well?
the powell doctrine to the boosh cabal in the oval office meeting, saying pretty much, "you break it, you buy it!" the cia chief was also there and said the intel did not confirm the wmd conclusion. so if I can't convince you, how about the medal of freedumb winner!
powell knew. if you ever saw the crap he showed to the UN, you would not need convincing. you should not.
I am as forgiving as the next person and I am not perfect. what I saw powell perpetrate is unforgivable. a million people, at least, have died on his lies and those of the boosh crime family, all because they wanted to reclaim the nationalized Iraqi oil as per plan of chainey and kennyboy.
like I said: you're better than that.
That is hardly evidence. I heard the comment " If you break it you own it". So, what you're saying is you're going with your gut too.
I don't think we'll ever find out the real truth. Until Powell tells it.
So, until then, I'm staying on the fence on this one.
You know I respect you and your opinions. They do carry with them alot of credibility with me. I'm just not one to jump on any bandwagon with respect to what I hear on the tv or radio.
Oh, BTW, keep posting the links you've been posting.
I enjoy the input.
I do have a problem with him not knowing. I suppose he had his own sources . So You're probably right. I'm not ruling that out. I'm just giving him the benefit of the doubt.
It's just I need more evidence. That's all.
I'm not going to say he's innocent here. There are too many unknown knowns( yikes, I hope I got that right)
I think Powell was less ignorant of the fake intelligence than he pretends to be, his behavior when grilled show he lacks integrity. I do believe he has a bit of a conscience though something that can't be said for Bush, Cheney, and most other neocons who lie through their teeth to this day. I hope they all can be brought to justice eventually or this country loses a lot of credibility throughout the world.
Could it possibly be that he trusted them?
There is a reason why he resigned.
Guilt? Maybe. Pissed off because he felt he was lied too? Maybe.
At this point, we'll never really know. Until Powell comes clean. Which I doubt will ever happen.
I'm just glad he endorsed Obama.
That's gotta sting the GOPers
No. He rolled over and played dead.
Research...its a wonderful thing:
"Powell's loyalty to George Bush appears to have extended to a willingness to deceive the United Nations, Americans, and the coalition troops about to be sent to kill and die in Iraq. He has never been held accountable for his actions, and it's extremely unlikely he ever will be".
http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/...
Yet we'll never know because your man Obama has taken impeachment off the table. Does that have anything to do with this endorsement? Ya think?
Thanks for the link. I'll read it and get back to you.
Yes. More's the pity.
You certainly are entitled to your opinion Johnny.
At this point, Yes, I will take anything to get Obama in Office.
Barr? Nader? Paul? McCain? McKinley? or Obama.
I'm going with the smart guy.
Drudge report is so awful... It would be a decent page if they would stop being do manipulative. They're insinuating Powell made his choice based on race...
Their headline is Powell endorses Obama "Its not about race".. which I dont actually even remember him saying. Than below that they've pulled up a month old story with the headline Powell tells students african american president would be electrifying..
Wish they could just put up news and not this propaganda crap.
THEN THEY WOULDN'T BE DRUDGE!
TRY THIS!
http://www.buzzflash.com/
Think it's a coincidence that Drudge rhymes with sludge? I think not.
I haven't watched it yet but HULU has a film about George III called The Madness of King George . Looks like it might be interesting.
On the school house rock:
Republicanism thrives on ignorance. They can't win if the population is informed and/or not cynical.
"What's catching my eye this morning" is what is not catching my eye and that is the non-existence of guests on these corporate talk shows who might actually happen to be a third party or an independent or [god forbid] a socialist candidate who would present views that would be anathema to the pro-corporate, pro-military views of Obama and McCain. So much for living in a true democracy where ideally all points of view should be encouraged and heard.
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The first half hour news break on fox 'news' after Gen. Colin Powell endorsed Sen. Barack Obama, was that clang, about a "TERROR ALERT!"
LOL! 2,589 days since wmd said he'd catch ubl? usa! usa! usa!
There has been a ridiculous rumor on the Right (born of the Rezko thing I believe) claiming Obama "had dealings with" a known drug dealer while a State Senator.
It's a rumor with no legs, and I think Wallace only mentioned it as an example of "marginalized rumors" McCain has chosen not to pursue in favor of others.
I don't think Wallace was suggesting there's anything to it.
AP/Yahoo! News Poll: Public's Regard For McCain "Has Deteriorated Across-The-Board"
Obama Raises Record $150 Million In September
HURRAY FOR OUR SIDE!
GOD BLESS YOU COLIN POWELL!!!
I've always respected you... and I respect your [well-informed] decision now to back Barack Obama!!
MTP on here... be back later after watch for myself. It will hurt to watch Brokaw and Scarborough... what we don't do to be informed!! :-(
OBAMA-BIDEN 08!!!
Off I go but I will return soon to catch-up on everything.
What would we do without the internet?
Have a safe journey MsJoanne. Be well.
SOTT! (So over the top!)
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Thanks for posting the Schoolhouse Rock blast from the past. As I watched it, I saw all the kings of Wall Street sitting on their thrones over there on the island of Manhattan taking our money to finance their gambling schemes. I wonder what they're conjuring now. All our dollar bills are tea leaves. All hail Warren Buffet and his co-kings. Long live our financial rulers, our betters. They make the only thing manufactured in the U.S. in the 21st century -- money.
On TW, Tom Friedman, on the Powell endorsement, said:
"He [Obama] now has Warren Buffett and Barack Obama endorsing him." :)
Most bizarre statement this morning:
Andrea Mitchell on TW calling Obama's ad featuring video of McCain claiming to have "voted with Bush over 90% of the time" as a "tremendously negative attack ad".
Huh???
Great line from David Gergen on TW on the Banking bailout:
"They [Republicans] came in as Social Conservatives and are leaving as Conservative Socialists." :)
I was an un-decided Voter until today. Colin (cancer)Powells remarks about what is wrong with Jobama if he is a Muslim. Powells idiotic comment pushed my decision to McCain and his classy running mate Palin.
Powell, stay in retirement. You made no sense when you were working.
Yours truly,
An unemployed, struggling Baby Boomer, Don the Salesman. (wish now I would have been a plummer)
Don Sutton
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Oh, come on. You were always going to vote for those tits.
i watched powell as he dribbled his bush bull dooky about how iraq had wmds , he wasnt convinceing anyone who read the reports on tv and the news saying the wmds were not found by the inspecters in iraq, both he and kinda sleezy rice were blowing the bush crowd to keep thier butts feeding off the whitehouse trough, oink oink pigs both of them , if you believed powell and rice with thier mushroom cloud bull crap it just shows how easy you can be fooled,
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