Sunday Morning Bobblehead Thread
By Nicole Belle Sunday Nov 16, 2008 5:00amHoward Jones - No One Is To Blame
Okay, here we go. I pull myself from my sickbed to look at the Sunday line up and you know what it looks like to me? A bunch of Republican jokers lining up their rationalizations and justifications and figuring out the best way to divest themselves of any and all responsibility and to pin all failures on the yet-to-even-start Obama presidency. We got Ahnuld on This Week, as well as the reliably partisan Newt Gingrich and Bobby Jindahl on Face the Nation, Marsha Blackburn on Late Edition, Tim Pawlenty and wannabe RNC head Michael Steele on Fox News. But the major "tell" is good ol' Tweety himself. What kind of framing is this? Who is in charge while the economy tanks -- Bush or Obama? and When Obama takes office, will he postpone much of his ambitious agenda? Really? So the poor man hasn't even taken the Oath of Office and we're already looking at blaming him for the economy and assuming that he'll flake out on his platform?
ABC's "This Week" - Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, R-Calif.
CBS' "Face the Nation" - Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass.; Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala.; Gov. Bobby Jindal, R-La.; former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, R-Ga.
NBC's "Meet the Press" - Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich.; Shelby; T. Boone Pickens, chairman of the energy investment fund BP Capital.
CNN's "Late Edition" - Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez; Reps. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., and Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn.; Ted Turner, CNN founder and author of a new memoir.
"Fox News Sunday" - Sens. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., and Byron Dorgan, D-N.D.; Gov. Tim Pawlenty, R-Minn.; former Lt. Gov. Michael Steele, R-Md.
"The Chris Matthews Show" - Panel: Howard Fineman, Erin Burnett, Michelle Norris and Michael Duffy. Topics: Who is in charge while the economy tanks -- Bush or Obama? Will Republican leaders try to stop Palin from becoming their 2012 nominee? Meter Questions: When Obama takes office, will he postpone much of his ambitious agenda? YES: 4 NO: 8 Will the GOP pick a young rising star instead of an older "heir apparent" in 2012? YES: 12 No: 0
Sigh. So what's catching your eye this morning?
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These people have too much time on their hands.
And, it is still the Corporate Media with their mission of propaganda and disinformation.
I debunk the "Obama Recession" myth in my blog today:
Mugsy's Rap Sheet
I can debunk it now, it's the Clinton's fault, no wait It might have been Carter, wait wait wait Obama won IT"S HIS FAULT! The repugnacans found out on 11/4 that people ain't that stupid.
So when does the clock start on the media's customary 3 years of goose-stepping blind subservience to a new administration? Barack's going to get that, right? Or was that a "special" deal for the Bush 43 administration?
Thanks for doing all you do, and I hope you get well soon. Take a break from Wingnut Television. That's prob what is making you sick.
time finding a young "intelligent" person to run who will swallow the load about creationism and 6000 year old earth.
...is that the modern GOP is an "extremist" Party on every issue. One that is owned lock, stock & barrel by the Religious Right; any group that is made up primarily of rural/suburban uneducated "white folk"... which is very appealing to racists and bigots (ANY group dominated by the uneducated). In fact, they attack "smart people", calling them "elitists". It's no coincidence colleges turn out so many Liberals. Colleges don't "indoctrinate" people into being Liberal. Any thinking person with an interest in politics naturally gravitates to it as they come to see the stupidity of the Right.
If the GOP is to survive, they are going to have to attract "rational thinking people", and right now, they have NO place in the GOP.
two negatives. Logic and understanding cannot exist in the same area as bigotry and fear.
would you want the GOP to survive?
Let's find a second party to care and worry about. A Liberal party for instance.
The one that DOESN"T yet exist!
and start using the terms "Progressive" (Dem) and "Regressive" (Rep) more. Those words are generally more descriptive of the attitudes and direction of the politics of the 2 main parties.
And, I do think it would be nice to reform the whole election system, specifically enabling, indeed encouraging, the acceptance of more than 2 parties.
You are dreaming. They are as corrupt as Republicans, more so since the Rs don't feign populism as broadly.
The two party duopoly is corrupt to the core.
With a few notable exceptions who are generally locked out when it matters most.
"rational thinking people".
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Not if the keep churning 'em out the way they seem to. The Palin family is the perfect model for breeding the next generation of Rethugs.
I hope the shelf life for the Palin family publicity has expired.
Where is Joe? He used to be on every week trashing Barack Hussein Obama. Why should he stop now? It is not as if Harry Reid would stop him.
Shouldn't Joe the Senator be making the Sunday morning rounds to "apologize" for slandering the Democratic Party and Barack Obama?
After all, didn't Evan Bayh say that Lieberman would have to apologize in order to retain his Chairmanship of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee?
Have any of you heard an apology yet? Maybe he made it in The Hartford Courant and we all just missed it??
After months of talking non-stop out of both sides of his mouth, he needs a rest. And, so do we!
Good Morning everyone!
Nicole, please take care of yourself and feel better real soon.
Nothing on tv is catching my eye this morning. A cold front moved through here last night and this morning it's in the 50's, windy and sunny. Just too nice to stay inside. My husband will be mowing the grass today. Only in Fla. would you have to mow the yard in November. At least he won't sweat to death while he's doing it.
I don't remember who posted the story last night about Obama and the little poster dog, Baby. Whoever it was, Thank You! I woke up this morning, checked out C&L and found that post with that sweet photo. What a lovely way to begin the day!
and windy. Not helping my flu either. Oh well, off to hot, smoky SoCal tomorrow.
No lawn to mow here, but lots of palm fronds to fish out of the pond...
So sorry to hear you're sick. Between you and Nicole, I think I better wear a surgical mask when I visit this site. ;)
I love this chilly weather for a change. I can wear my Obama sweatshirt without breaking a sweat. Having the windows open and cool air blowing in is a total treat. I wish we could save this weather for Christmas morning.
I can tolerate it. It just comes hard and fast here, after yesterday being in the upper 80s and gorgeous. Wish I had enough sun to plant some tomatoes in my yard, as it is the season to grow them here...
BTW, I don't even own a good jacket anymore. Wish I had an Obama sweatshirt; there are probably a bunch of McCane sweatshirts down at the local Goodwill by now...
Kyl and Dorgan are talking about whether or not to bailout the auto industry. But no one is talking about the REAL issue: health care.
When GM is spending more on health insurance than on steel, we've got a big problem.
The lack of National Health Care is bankrupting our industries.
If only Democrats would express the need for National Heath Care in those terms, we might finaly get Republicans on board.
1 - GM brings the subject of health insurance up that it enters the national dialog. GM can build cars for a thousand dollars cheaper across the Detroit River in Canada.
2 - This is a government for and by the Corporations.
Do not forget it for one minute, PEASANTS!
OBTW, recall while you may, universal health care and universal health insurance ARE NOT one and the same.
So far what I hear is guaranteed universal profit for the health insurance Corporations, see point 2.
That is what the corrupt congress did for big pharma with the medicare bill.
Of course, GM may go bankrupt because we are too busy bailing out the Wall Street Gamblers who have hijacked the economy. Corporate bankruptcy laws are written so Corporations can get a leg up on their competitors and crush their unions in the process. Maybe that sentence should be the other way around.
My thinking is the consumer might fly a bankrupt airline, after all, the jet fuel is in the plane, if it takes off ok it may be able to land ok. But, I doubt the consumer will want a lemon from a bankrupt car company.
Let them all go bankrupt and out of business, they spent years and millions lobbying against the very laws that would have made them competitive today.
Same thing with Wall Street. Screw them.
The capitalist model is failing utterly, except to reward the very few at the pinnacle who are escaping with billions, we need a new system!
Kyl says Hillary would be a great choice as Sect of State ("Well received around the world").
The Republicans love her. Anyone need a better reason not to pick her?
They're soul mates fer sure:
http://savagepolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/...
http://www.observer.com/files/imagecache/arti...
Pawlenty and Steele are both jockying for the head GOP leadership position. Both would be excellent choices IMHO.
The phrase "nail in the coffin" comes to mind. :)
this morning. They're a bunch of garbage (because of banks' derivatives holdings), and everyone in the know knows it.
The world-wide economy will continue to plummet until the balance sheets of banks are rock-solid in terms of asset and liability valuations.
will not be rock solid until they drain every last cent from the public coffers.
It is projected there will be in excess of 3 million additional foreclosures between now and 2011.
There are Credit Default Swaps written on all of those by what factor? A face valuation of ten to one. I can't prove it but that has been typical.
Someone needs to show me where the new regulations are, I don't seem them. Paulson's plunder is a very big fish flopping on the beach.
Obama's main contributors were the Wall Street Gamblers.
Those mortgage contracts are written, those
insurance contractsCDS downside bets with the bookies are written.That doesn't even mention the side bets on the Corporate Bonds that will go down.
This is an economy in liquidation.
It is a pile of DOO DOO of cosmic proportions.
...and their corporate buds still have a few more months to continue their plunder. By the time they're boarding their planes to Dubai and Paraguay (did the pres. there change the extradition law yet?) the US Treasury will hold nil, millions more will be out of jobs, and tent cities will be rising on the Mall in DC.
...in the Minnesota Senate recount.
He repeated and stressed that the "Democratic ballots found in a trunk" story was false.
Clip-worthy.
Thanks for the reminder about this story--funny how it is that the Repubs and their MSM syncophants who were duped by this story have not uttered one peep of regret or apology for spreading this garbage. How typical for self centered sociopaths---and the MSM--with several exceptions, their industry is a laughingstock.
Repubs---the dysfunctional party of blamers, finger pointers and losers who arrogantly ignore the message sent on November 5. They have no constructive solutions to offer---so their solution--blame and accuse others of wrongdoing and boast of their "righteousness".
Hope these chumps have fun on their way to obscurity.
Jimmy Carl Black passed away in Germany 11/1/08. Old friends(Mothers), and old and young musicians will be playing a benefit tribute concert on Sunday 12/7/08 between 11:00am and 5:00pm at Thousand Trails Campground, 4700 Crown Valley Rd, Acton, California.
Hi, I'm Jimmy Carl Black and I'm the Indian of the group . . .
Acton.
None of the above....the MSM is corperate owned and until laws stop them they'll keep on pushing republican lies. Remember no viewers,no sponsor money...'It's all about the Money $$$$$$'. Advertising OVERKILL is out of control. Our mailboxes with junk mail,our TV's with massive PAID PROGRAMMING,our TV shows are 50% ads,our phones etc. Give us a freek'in break! Good products sell themselves,and always have.
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Tavis gave an interesting argument in favor of Hillary's appointment as SoS: her replacement.
He noted (I was unaware of this) that there currently is not one single black Senator in Congress. And if Clinton becomes SoS, her replacement could very well be Jessie Jackson Jr.
Not sure how I feel about that. He isn't his father (thank goodness), that's for sure.
I thought Jessie Jackson, Jr. was an Illinois politician.
Remember Hillary's hometown was Chicago, too.
Senators are replaced by their governor with a politician from their own state (or by a special election, ditto). They don't get to choose their own replacement and certainly not from outside the state.
That's what the Clinton's did. They just moved to NY so she could run.
I suspect that is what Tavis is suggesting.
Tavis was predicting that Jesse Jackson Jr. will be replacing Senator Obama, now President Obama.
And from what I have heard this guy can also give dazzling speeches. Could be a rising star.
I didnt see the Tavis comments but I'm sure he was alluding to Jackson, as a black man, replacing the OTHER sole black man in the Senate. And I would agree 100%, it SHOULD be that way, as they would have NO PEOPLE OF COLOR in the Senate if it does not
should choose an Obama replacement who would stand the best chance of being reelected once the term expires ('12?)
In discussing the possible bailout of the auto industry, Richard Shelby used The "F" Word to describe the Democratic bailout plan:
"French".
T. Boone Pickens just said on MtP: "You can bet oil will be back up over $100 a year from now."
I'll take that bet. Where do I sign up?
caught my eye this morning.
Iraq approves Security pact with the US. I read yesterday in the SF Chronical, about Muqtadr Al Sadar.
And how he pledged his army to kick out "The Occupiers".That's how he termed the US.I can't disagree.
Now, with the Iraqi govt' saying stay, and Al Sadar saying you better leave. This is going to end up ugly. I haven't even mentioned the Sunni's and the Awakening. Their numbers are said to be slightly over 100 thousand.
The real fighting hasn't started yet in Iraq.
If we stay, we will be in the middle of a civil war. And likely take shots from both sides.
I know that we(the US) screwed this up. And we have to fix it.
How? We're screwed no matter which way we turn.
Very simple. We leave now.
They're eventually going to sort it out on their own, with or without us. It's time to get out of the way and let 'em do it. When they figure it out we should be first in with humanitarian aid, protected by the UN.
It has been in the last eight years??
I can only suspect it has to do with Nicole being ill with the flu.
Sorry...
get well soon!
from TP:
If it’s Sunday, it’s still conservative.
In 2006, Media Matters conducted a study on Sunday political talk shows, finding that “Republicans and conservatives have been offered more opportunities to appear on the Sunday shows — in some cases, dramatically so.” From 2001 to 2005, conservative guests outnumbered progressives “by 58 percent to 42 percent.” Atrios notes that tomorrow’s shows will also be dominated by conservative guests:
7 Appearances by Republican current elected officeholders
3 Appearances by Democratic current elected officeholders.
2 Appearances by Republican former elected officeholders.
1 Appearance by a Bush Cabinet Secretary.
T. Boone Pickens
Ted Turner.
anybody here know ted personally?
why o why doesn't he put his money toward progressive media?
at the least, FAIR media...
The bobbleheads are consistently weighted toward Republicans and "conservatives" because the media has been thoroughly cowed. If they started loading up on Democrats -- even to parity -- the conservatives would be all over them in a constant drumbeat about the liberal media.
...that the "media has been thoroughly cowed" by the right-wing, cons. types - most is actually "Owned" and controlled by them.
Arnold is most Republican when he cites imaginary examples of things Republicans have done as justification for his beliefs.
But on TW, he notes, "Teddy Roosevelt talked about the need for National Health care. Eisenhower's Interstate highway Project... Republicans' today would call that 'government spending'. That's not 'spending', that's *investing* in the future."
Then he comes out and says the Prop 8 ruling "should be overturned".
Then he goes on to attack Democrats. How clueless can you get?
two months?
Fineman: Rush Limbaugh.
I'll bet he's right.
George Will just said the Great Depression "didn't end until the Japanese fleet appeared off the coast of Hawaii."
Total nonsense, and shows Will clearly has NO knowledge of the economy during that time.
The nation's Depression-Era GDP grew at its *slowest* rate in 1939... the year Hitler invaded Poland.
WWII *delayed* our recovery, not "responsible" for it. Will is an idiot.
Thanks for the tune. It took me back to a time in my life when I was enjoying my youth and spending my days with a very special girl.
I would say the current GOP is in search of something other than its whitebread self.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/16/opinion/16r...
...thanks for the link. I have friends who will be excited to see Miss Sarah and (former almost) First Dude "cutting the rug" on Dancing with the Stars..!
I love that song and it's a perfect fit for the Republican non-hand-wringing hand-wringing on the air this morning. Get well soon, NB =)
Thanks for the tune...love Howard Jones & especially this song.
for that hair, Howard.
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