Sunday Morning Bobblehead Thread
By Nicole Belle Sunday Nov 23, 2008 5:00amNorah Jones - Don't Miss You At All
It's Sunday, and you know what that means? Another sanctimonious talking head appearance by Holy Joe Lieberman on Meet the Press. How can we miss him if he won't ever go away? That man has one serious love of the spotlight. In all seriousness, given that the President-elect Obama and Democrats in the Senate want to rise above any and all trespasses by Lieberman, it seems to me that the best way for him to truly be punished is to simply ignore him. He loves being the center of attention so much that I'm sure it would just kill him to have no one pay attention to him. Other than that, it looks like the economy will be topic one with lots of Republicans to assert that they have the solution, or to accuse Obama that he doesn't. Considering their own track record, I wish that just once some host would ask them why they should ever be trusted. And isn't it funny how the media has already written off all Bush administration figures already?
ABC's "This Week" - David Axelrod, senior adviser to President-elect Barack Obama; Sens. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., and Richard Shelby, R-Ala.
CBS' "Face the Nation" - House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.; Austan Goolsbee, economic adviser to Obama.
NBC's "Meet the Press" - Former Secretary of State James Baker; former Commerce Secretary William Daley; Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn.
CNN's "Late Edition" - Sens. Carl Levin, D-Mich., and Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas; Gov. Jennifer Granholm, D-Mich.; former Gov. Mitt Romney, R-Mass.; Forbes Inc. CEO Steve Forbes; former Labor Secretary Robert Reich.
CNN's "Fareed Zakaria GPS" - This week on GPS, an exclusive interview with Former Vice President Al Gore. Also, Fareed and an all-star panel of guests -- Tom Friedman, Niall Ferguson and Anne-Marie Slaughter -- discuss the US economic crisis.
"Fox News Sunday" - Reps. Steny Hoyer, D-Md., and John Boehner, R-Ohio; Axelrod.
"The Chris Matthews Show" - Panel: Bob Woodward, Gloria Borger, Katty Kay, David Gregory. Topics: How will Obama specifically represent change from Bush? Is Hillary a smart choice for Secretary of State? Meter Questions: Will Hillary be more of an Obama rival in the Senate instead of State? YES: 10 NO: 2; Will the GOP pick a young rising star instead of an older "heir apparent" in 2012? YES: 12 No: 0
So what's catching your eye this morning?
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Can easily give MeetThePress a pass then. What we really need is to hear more from failed experts who can't admit that they were wrong.
then you have to go to fux and cnn
Isn't there a conservative news network up north called the Canadian United Media?
That way there's an alternative to going to FUX news.
...is rearing his ugly head again? What, are Democrats in such short supply that they can't be booked on Sunday?
They will get it from a repug.
US media rule #1
http://votersthink.org/?p=744
Has "The Chris Matthews Show" run out of controversial questions to ask?
YES: 12 No: 0
the clintons are not available for bashing.
With the exception of the Lieberman disaster, it looks like maybe the Sunday shows have strived for better Dem-Repub balance than in past weeks. Or maybe it's just a fluke ...
sheesh-fer and broke-argh
two self-avowed enemies of democrats
someone tell me again about the 'liberal media'.
Late edition has the most interesting possibility of them all - Mittens up against Carl Levin. My money's on Levin.
I love Fareed Zakaria's show.
refreshing.
A good CNN program on Green Energy right now too.
Every time I hear Nora Jones I think of the "Nora Jones Party Album" skit but besides that.... I wish that at least part of the economic solution would be to not have US workers compete with workers overseas making $2 a day. I know tariffs are a dirty word for most of today's economists but they worked fine in this country until Reagan. I believe that it wouldn't take very long at all for all of the domestic manufacturing jobs to return, after all it didn't take them very long to leave once there was a huge profit in it. The cost of goods is not determined by the cost of manufacturing but the market sets the price.
Okay, Wallace on FnS didn't put it EXACTLY that way, but he did ask:
W: "Senator Boener, under your leadership, the GOP has lost 50 seats in the past two years with you as Party leader. Why should you remain as leader ofthe GOP in the Senate?"
B: "If I though it was my fault, I'd step down, and my colleges wouldn't have re-elected me Leader."
PS: The debate over "Secret ballots for union members" issue has me scratching my head. Hoyer is opposed. Boener in favor?
Representative Boehner - he "serves" in the House....
When asked about Obama's cabinet choices, FnS's Hume described it as "a Cabinets of Moderates" and his carefulness of changing tax policy showing him to be "wise".
around Obama, now that he won. I think they want to be on the side that's winning (ie PROFITABLE). It will be slow but subtle. I suspect Murdoch cares more about profits than politics. I may be wrong, but if I had any money, I'd bet.
Fox built its reputation leading the charge against Clinton, hyping everything to "-gate" status.
They may be "projecting" their desires upon Obama now, but after he is sworn in and the GOP attack machine starts up, Fox will be right there with them.
There seems to be a consensus on the Fox panel that... because of current economic conditions... Obama will wait for the Bush Tax Cuts to expire on their own in 2011, rather than repeal them immediately.
And the possible retaining of Gates for SoD means slowing down the withdrawal of troops from Iraq.
What basis do they have for these beliefs? None from what I can tell. Certainly, no one from Obama's team has suggested any of this, but just the possibility seems to (for the time being) have the Fox 'pugs pleased with Obama.
"And the possible retaining of Gates for SoD means slowing down the withdrawal of troops from Iraq.
What basis do they have for these beliefs? None from what I can tell. Certainly, no one from Obama's team has suggested any of this..."
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That's the beauty of it, on one side Obama and the rest of the Dems can pin the delay on Gates, on t'other side the Mil. Ind. Com. gets to keep those dollars flowing into their coffers. Win/win.
Gates MUST go. No later than March.
On "This week" George Will tries, for the second week in a row, to claim FDR New Deal caused a massive econ downturn in '37. Last week, Krugman smacked George down. Today, Robert Kuttner corrects Will's revisionist history again, pointing out that the economy turned down in '37 when FDR backed off gov infrastructure spending and tried to prematurely balance budget. The old Repub game plan is still in effect; lie, scare, steal, repeat and repeat...
George...you guys lost.
And repeat and repeat and repeat and repeat, then make up a new lie and repeat and repeat and repeat.....
...is much better at analyzing basball history than economics.
on the collapse of the mortgage industry.
Banking Regulator Played Advocate Over Enforcer
Reduce staffing levels, slash regulation, and trust the banks to monitor themselves. Ah yes, the Bush Administration's formula for spectacular failure.
in SoCal tanked as well.
Did ♀ John Boehner Cry again? Are they all whining like we thought they would?
Boehner didn't cry, but I couldn't help but notice his eyes were wet and red as if he had been recently. :)
I comment on him above.
...to let me know what's happening here. We don't DO television, but the Comments section always gives me a good idea what's going on. Thanks, everybody, and keep it up!
Sitting on the crapper, I was reading the new Harper's. In it, prominently, is an aerticle by John Gray, a Brit economist, who boldly claims the "end of American hegemony in consequence of the last 40 years of 'laissez-faire,' chicago-stye economics.
Then I read where the fabulous Mr. O's named a notorious Chicago-schooler, Larry Summers, to be his economic guru, and Summers' little asshole buddy to e Treasury Secretary, and all i want to do is go surfing til i drown...I guess it's okay, since Milton Friedman's dead, and therefore unavailable...
I dont think building a team to work on an economic machine not presently schooled on the model thats been in operation for years is a good idea either. Balance. Listening to Brit Hume right now, the wingnuts are shrieking with caution that Obama wont be a socialist. Now Matthews is playing bad cop, talking the "extreme left wing" of the party. But, like it or not, you dont assemble a bunch of VW mechanics to work on a big Ford pickup.
Elmer Joe *really* dodged Brokaw's question whether he believed Palin was more qualified to be VP than him or Biden.
He simply said, "I'll leave that to others to look back and decide."
and still campaigning for McCain by repeating all the same GOP campaign slogans we've heard for the past 9 months. Lieberman repentant in the slightest? I don't think so. I hope the Democrats don't come to regret the day they willingly handed him the "Get Out of Political Hell Free" card.
as bad for not squeezing him on supporting Palin.
Maybe there will be an oping at Fux for Brokaw soon.
Check out the clip of John Boner (R-OH) sitting with Matthews trying to explain how Republicans can lead this country out of the ditch it's in. After he gave his totally unconvincing spiel, Matthews was gonna close the show, giving the Repuke the last word. But at least Hoyer didnt give him the satisfaction, blurting out "People want change, and they voted for it".
I hope the Democrats know how to counteract the propagandists at FUX by now, that should be rule one, do not let the Repukes EVER get the last word in.
Good Morning everyone!
Can't remember his name but Schieffer had a member of Obama's economic team on his show. The guy was outstanding and funny too. Best guest I've seen on Sunday morning in a long time.
OUCH! Bloody Bill on FUX just dogged Hillary about her speech in Sept. of 2002 advocating the war on Iraq. He noted she never apologized and would be HAPPY if she became Sec. of State.
HISS! MEOW!
Will they say that we're a middle right conservative country?
So much more important that these f*ckers are comfortable in their suits than doing any WORK in them.
Jennifer Granholm just brought up how differently Mitt was talking between his primary campaign here (and he DID win MI in the primaries) and now. She actually used the words "...breathtaking hypocrisy"!
Very accurate, but almost an understatement.
Lower taxes on capital gains and corporations. They never say how that is going to help. All they have to do is look at how well it's worked in the last 8 years.
....say that, otherwise his corporate pals and his golfing buddies won't open their wallets when he's up for re-election.
This auto bailout cash grab, and Jennifer Granholm being allowed to trot out her talking points about it without Wolfie calling her on it is kind of troubling. She didnt convince me of anything. Plus, she evaded the three company execs who flew in on three private planes, with no plan, and asked for 25 billion.
Ummm......yea. Jennifer?
I really think this thing about the CEO's flying on corporate planes is kind of ridiculous. Maybe the auto companies don't need whole fleets of private jets, but it really isn't very feasible for these folks to fly commercial, for a variety of reasons - mainly time and security constraints. In this particular case, it would have not made much sense for the CEO's of the 3 companies to all be flying on the same plane together (even though it seems like it would be nice to be rid of all of them).
In my previous life, I worked for a global insurance company as communications manager for the VP in charge of all operations for corporate aviation, travel, conference & event management, and corporate security. The company owned 2 jets and 1 helicopter. So, I have some knowledge of the kinds of security threats there are to high profile people (in this case CEO's of major cos.) and how their lives are mangaged to minimize them. Also, commercial aviation schedules and airport locations (and, these days, security procedures)
increase travel time exponentially, which can ultimately cost companies a lot more in the big picture. And, the CEO of my company was not a prima donna in any way.
I think we should focus on the REAL issues with the auto industry CEO's: thinking, planning, innovation, better financial management, use of new technology, human relations (union rel.), etc.
Certainly there are lots of ares in which corporate expenses can be managed better to benefit employees, stockholders and the public at large, including corporate aviation >> but, in this instance, it's a waste of time - and time is a wastin'!!!!
so often? This washed-up has-been has NOTHING to contribute to a Sunday morning.
Joe gets on these shows because he has sold the MSM on the mistaken belief he is a "staunch anti-partisan" and crosses Party lines so often because he is SO opposed to "partisanship".
Problem is, that's a total crock. Show me a clip of Joe criticizing Republicans while praising Democrats.
Joe was picked to be Gore's VP ONLY because he was one of the chief critics of President Clinton in 1999. He went on Fox constantly to urge his colleges in the House to impeach BC.
He is quick to criticize Democrats, and if you look at his voting record on critical issues, I'm certain Elmer Joe votes with Republicans FAR more often than he votes with Democrats on the issues that matter.
Still, the MSM continues to swallow the "Joe is not a partisan" lie because he calls himself a "Democrat" just so he can criticize Democrats with impunity.
Perfect music for Sunday morning.
Ooooooh! Pelosi's on! Let me guess, she will say,....... absolutely nothing at all,....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9IzVbuGHXY
My preference
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfmQ6w7RW7k
I haven't actually read this morning's Dallas Morning Nudes yet, but the headline is that Obama wants to expand stimulus (of the economic package.) He wants to do so WITHOUT removing the tax cut for the wealthy.
The possibility that Obama will delay the repeal of the Bush Tax Cuts has been a ubiquitous talking point on all the shows this morning, from Fox to George Will.
I couldn't say how likely this is, but so far, it is all based purely on speculation.
He needs to repeal, then reinstate a 94% marginal rate on those rich assholes - and make it retroactive to 1981!
I want the 25% of the wealth in this country back from the uber rich who stole it from us during the last 30 years of repuke governance.
Fine. Can we kick your ass across the aisle, and still count on your vote then, douchebag? We don't want you.
...then why is Harry Reid so worried about kicking Joe out of the Democratic caucus?
If Joe is REALLY non-partisan, voting purely his beliefs, then it shouldn't matter WHAT side of the isle he on, am I right?
Cowtowing to LIEberdouche plays into his hands and assures him continued relevance.
The sad thing is, that with Maine's two moderates, and other repukes up for re-election in very blue states in 2010, the democrats didn't really need Leiberman anymore.
Mitchy ain't gonna be finding obstruction so easy in this session.
In fact, if he wanted to have any chance at keeping favor with the voters of Conn., he would have had to come back grovelling to the democrats eventually anyhow.
That's what's so disheartening - for the last 8 years we've been sold out time and time again by Pelosi and Reid's posturing and politicking for political power while letting this country go right to hell. Yeah, I'm real glad they got their power, if they would only start using it to do more than keeping themselves in power.
Gettin' real tired of it...
"Obama mainlines homework." Perfect.
I don't watch them anymore and....I don't miss them at all.
Formation of economic theories explained:
http://www.gocomics.com/nonsequitur/
I had a party here in the Hampton's for Moveon.org Thursday night and here's the coverage of the party for anyone interested: (Southampton Press)
http://www.27east.com/story_detail.cfm?cat=sh...
Naturally I told the reporter what I REALLY think and she was very fair with her story.
For anyone interested, I think Moveon.org has a good campaign going now. Here's the link to get involved:
http://pol.moveon.org/changeweneed/survey_hos...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-QtkjytoJA
Might be NSFW
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