Karl Rove Picks Rush Limbaugh Over Colin Powell For GOP

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If you're watching FOXNews, you know you're going to run into Karl "I belong in front of a War Crimes Tribunal in The Hague" Rove. Naturally, a man who is synonymous with the nasty, divisive partisan politics that the voters overwhelmingly rejected in 2008 is the go-to guy for answers on the direction of the Republican Party.

Host Chris Wallace asks Rove, who remains strangely sure of his vision of the Republican Party despite the fact that fewer people identify themselves as Republicans now than ever before, whether the Republican Party has room in it for someone like former Secretary of State Colin Powell who was guilty of being quoted by the National Journal as saying that Americans are looking for something that current GOP appears to not understand.

WALLACE: Finally, Colin Powell is answering his Republican critics today. Powell said -- and we’re going to put it up on the screen -- this earlier this month. “Americans do want to pay taxes for services. Americans are looking for more government in their life, not less.”

Rove, to his credit (and it kills me to write that), says that the market should decide what works for the Republican Party. Powell should find a candidate he supports and see which candidate resonates with the party. Asked if he, like Dick Cheney, chose the Rush Limbaugh version over the Colin Powell version, good ol' Turdblossom predictably chooses the Fat Bastard of the GOP:

WALLACE: Dick Cheney said if it’s a battle between or a choice between Rush Limbaugh and Colin Powell, he sides with Limbaugh. You?

ROVE: I -- yes, if I had to pick between the two. But you know what? That’s -- neither one of those are candidates. Neither one of those are going to be people who are offering themselves for office.

It seems to me that Rove's ideas have already lost in the marketplace of ideas in the GOP (such as it is). Mr. "Permanent Republican Majority" not only lost big in the election, but is losing membership more and more as they continue to try to keep it business as usual. What's more telling to me is the part of the National Journal article on Powell that Wallace didn't bring up and that shows just that Rove and his brethren just don't get it:

Powell described the 2008 GOP candidate, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, as "a beloved friend" but said he told him last summer that the party had developed a reputation for being mean-spirited and driven more by social conservatism than the economic problems that Americans faced.

Powell also criticized other GOP leaders, for bowing too much to the right.

He blasted radio commentator Rush Limbaugh, saying he does not believe that Limbaugh or conservative icon Ann Coulter serve the party well. He said the party lacks a "positive" spokesperson. "I think what Rush does as an entertainer diminishes the party and intrudes or inserts into our public life a kind of nastiness that we would be better to do without," Powell said.

Hmm....where did that negative mean-spiritedness come from, Karl? At least I'm confident that Powell won't bow down to the altar of Rushbo, begging forgiveness.

Transcripts (courtesy of CQ Politics) below the fold

WALLACE: Finally, Colin Powell is answering his Republican critics today. Powell said -- and we’re going to put it up on the screen -- this earlier this month. “Americans do want to pay taxes for services. Americans are looking for more government in their life, not less.”

Not just that statement, but his body of work, his endorsement of Obama -- do you think that Colin Powell is a Republican? And is there room in the Republican Party for Powell?

ROVE: Sure. And look, anybody who says they’re a Republican is a Republican. There is no membership committee that designates whether you are or not. If you say you’re Republican, you’re Republican.

Look, Colin Powell has a right to advocate this view. I defend his right to do that. I don’t agree with it, but I defend his right to do so. I would hope that he would back up that vision by finding candidates who represent his vision of the future of the Republican Party and actively working for them. That’s what it ought to be about.

I don’t like this thing where people -- and Powell is one them -- who said, “Rush Limbaugh, shut up.” I mean, that’s -- we believe, as Republicans in the marketplace of ideas, let that marketplace decide. Let everybody with a competing vision find the kind of candidates they want to support and work hard for them.

I want Colin Powell to go out there and lay out his vision, and then I want him to back it up by finding people who share it and working like heck to get them -- and that’s how you win the party -- the party’s intraparty battle of ideas.

WALLACE: Dick Cheney said if it’s a battle between or a choice between Rush Limbaugh and Colin Powell, he sides with Limbaugh. You?

ROVE: I -- yes, if I had to pick between the two. But you know what? That’s -- neither one of those are candidates. Neither one of those are going to be people who are offering themselves for office.

Again, that’s -- this is a false debate that Washington loves. The real debate takes place out there in the real world by people getting out there and encouraging and helping the kind of candidates who represent their vision for their party, Republican or Democrat.

This happens every election after the party loses. It’s a healthy thing. I say go to it. Find the people that you think represent your vision, outline it, and work like heck for them, and the country and the party will be better off for it.



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Powell is a black guy...of course they want Limbaugh...

pretty simple actually. He isn't one of "them".

The depraved prefer the depraved leading them. They prefer this to democracy. They prefer a theocracy to democracy, and they hope democracy fails. pretty simple really. Don't forget to vote.

This whole sequence of events eerily echoes what happened to George Marshall in the 1950s. He did as much as any man to win WWII and see America safely through the first years of post-war reconstruction and the Col War. Then McCarthy came along and told America that Marshall was a traitor, and that guys like McCarthy were the true believers. Today history reveres Marshall and reviles McCarthy.

Rove and Cheney are criminals and Limbaugh is a scumbag. Not one of them is fit to pass judgment on Powell. And in time the history books will say so.

I almost enjoy watching this pig squirm. This is probably the most disgraced individual in our country today. Tied maybe with cheney and delay...but he is definitely DOWN THERE!

What he has to say is nothing but propaganda and spin. Such a worthless ass hole. He needs to check into the hotel that the ex VP of Korea found. Do the world some good...for a change. Jump!

And I thought that the cartoons ran on Saturday mornings?? Oh, my.

and i will pick the firing squad over hanging for his treason during the Plame affair.

preach on, brother douchebag. preach on.

Limbaugh-Cheney for the GOP ticket in 2012!

(Sarah Palin for Cheney's pick as Secretary of State, Phil Gramm as Secretary of the Treasury, Rummy back as Secretary of Defense)

Two blowhards, Draft Dodger Rush and Draft Dodger Rove versus The General.....no contest!

exactly zero minutes of military experience combined. Powell was some General or something.

powell is too moderate for rove's liking. rove is the master of the power of wedge issues. rove along with gingrich and others moved the (r) further to the right. this movement/neoCONs don't believe in smaller government/NO nation building. the republican party is opportunistic and represents corporations/special interests/financial elites. since the ones with money are a smaller group they use wedge issues to rally/recruit for their party. these people get their guns and bibles but everything else is taken away from them right underneath their noses. rove has been very effective at using linguistic deception. he doesn't want to lose the evangelical/extreme following. powell is to close to how obama is moving the country currently. the right will use this economic/financial crisis as their strategy against obama. what has happened and what will happen regarding the positive side of the economic strategy by obama will not be talked about just the negative side/issues. we will see more gun toting tea baggers.

)O(

I have a feeling that at one time turdblossom was the recipient of wedgie issues.

Excuse me but wasn't Powell together with Rove and Cheney all members of the Bush cabal? Yet Rove and Cheney would pick a thrice divorced, pill popping, combat dodging, cripple mocking, mysogynist, rascist, homophobic, deceitful, mean spirtited, divisive, blowhard gasbag over a former general who served IN THE SAME ADMINISTRATION AS THEY DID?

Oh boy this is great! The new Rushthugliklan party looks like the old Rushthugliklan Party! Enjoy your obscurity asswipes!

Keep it up boys keep it up! Don't try and court the moderate vote and throw everyone out that might. Preach to your moronic base and any other fools that will believe your swill and we will never see your like again in power. Hopefully a saner third party will emerge and we will all be the better for it.

Seeing Karl Rove on FOX has the same effect on me as accidently walking in on my mom and her boyfriend having doggy style sex!

Gingrich, Powell, Rove, Limbaugh and Alberto Gonzalez- all here.
Another banner day at C&L.

If I were a strategist for the Republican party, I'd set up a false dichotomy between Powell as a moderate Republican and Limbaugh as a far-right Republican. For the next Presidential election, I'd put forth Powell as a candidate and sell the electorate the idea that he's the only true moderate choice between "far-left" Obama and far-right Limbaugh. I'd hope that'd get a Republican back in the White House again.

i believe the opposite is true. the more far right material rush limbaugh and coulter permeate the media with, the further right the spectrum moves. they are batshit insane, and it makes lesser (but still) batshit insane righties appear right-of-center.

Independents should be rallying behind Powell, even if you disagree with him on issues. democracy is a two way street, and americans deserve real debate. Its not an effective democracy if the opposition is gimp, continually obstructive, or otherwise filled with buffoonery. Americans need 2 (or more) REAL choices. A choice between the sane and the insane is no choice at all.

)O(

How about the outsane?

Is it because Colin Powell is...(black)?

that the General was not well liked and respected within his party. I know for a fact that's not true. Why just the other day they unveiled the Powell memorial water cooler at RNC headquarters. Only Powell and the RNC chairman are permitted to use it.

come on. The republicans are goners. After what they did? Do they need the whole list of dastardly deeds again and again? And these depraved souls want to run the country again? They don't even believe in democracy! Only a sick population would even consider republican rule.

What america needs is more than one party that supports democracy. Whithout active care democracy dies. Don't look to republicans for any help with democracy.

I thought the funniest line was . . . "As Repulicans, we believe in the marketplace of ideas."

Yeah, if everyone's shopping at the same store.

The GOP has jumped the shark so many times they're on a first name basis with the shark.

This time the market is ideas. What makes him think the free market is the best choice for determining the future of the party? Isn't that market dominated by the same right wing talk radio horse shit that sunk your party in the first place? I don't see a single one of them learning a damn thing from any of this. They have their demographic and ego to protect.

Why isn't this maroon (quoting Buggs Bunny) not in jail?

I hate calling them GOP. I see nothing "grand" about this disgusting, hateful, thieving, killing party. One fat white bastard picks another fat bastard over the black dude, no surprise.

The slob is the essence of vileness

How many times can we remind the GOP that Limbaugh is perfect as their leader:

Divorced 3 times
Drug addicted
Chicken hawk draft dodging coward

Rove (TUED BLOSSOM) is not wearing a ORANGE JUMP SUIT AND LEGG IRONS because the CORPORATE CONTRILED MEDIA are his best Buds. Rove will never see the inside or a jale sell because the cororate CONTRILED NEDIA will never let it happen. Question why will no one ask the CCM this Ouestion?

That's just frigging weird!

I can dig it man. The whole country, high on heroin, the fat guy on the radio keeps snortin' the stuff and Rove picks "the flush" over the general because he's coooooool. Wow man, give me another hit and just let me lay here...Rove is so cool. Let's just ruin this fuckin' country man. Government is no good man. Let's just do it because there's so many losers amongst us.....
That's how stupid my republican friends sound. Out of it. Flushed. Take the doper over the educated general. That's what they choose. I'm losing the republican party. I might not be democrat but I ain't no oxycotin freak. And, for the beauty of it all....I want to see Rove hanged at a Superbowl too.....I've got the whole plan. It includes music, the flag and everything.

When the photo opp with air fore one flew over New York. I immediately thought, Karl must be behind this. Think about it isn't that the kinda of the stuff he does best. In the last ten years I have wished George would have picked me for his job. I have know George longer (see first slide on trooperkeeton.com the football player link), than Karl. I would have persuaded George to be a kinder, gentler George. The kind of George that I knew at Camp Longhorn.Tk

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