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We've been reporting here at C&L for a long time on the way mainstream conservative pundits have been transmitting talking points, ideas, and a panoply of fake "facts" that originated on the extremist right and treating them as legitimate, thereby giving them credibility with the public they do not deserve, and in the process radicalizing increasing segments of the American Right.

Yesterday, Eric Boehlert of Media Matters hosted a panel of leading progressive who are ready to start speaking out about the phenomenon. It included officials from the Southern Poverty Law Center, America's Voice, NARAL Pro-Choice America, the National Council of La Raza, and the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights, who set out "to examine how the mainstreaming of extremism impacts our security, politics, and culture."

The discussion follows on the heels of LCCR's timely report that was released earlier this week pointing out the toxic effects of mainstream right-wing punditry in helping to foment the atmosphere of intolerance, scapegoating, and violence that now surrounds the immigration debate. (Think Progress has more on this too.)

A classic example of this is about to occur: As America's Voice explains in a background briefing, this weekend's "America's Cause" conference will be a prime breeding ground for this kind of rhetoric:

For those who cover immigration issues, none of this hate speech is new. Nor is the fact that so-called legitimate spokespersons deliver hate-filled messages that flow seamlessly from CNN to the white nationalist foot soldier and to Congress in a flood of angry faxes and phone calls.

This weekend's American Cause conference is a vivid example of how the worlds of extremism, media and politics converge.
Look Who's Coming To Virginia:

According to the conference website, joining the Buchanan siblings at the meeting are such right-wing luminaries as: Tony Blankley, Tom Tancredo, Phyllis Schlafly, Terry Jeffrey, Ward Connerly, John Hostettler, Ken Blackwell, Christopher Horner, Richard Scott, Lou Barletta and Peter Brimelow. Leaders in the fight against healthcare reform, environmental protection, and more are joining unvarnished white nationalists to "Build the New Majority."

I've been talking about this subject on the radio quite a bit this past week, since it is the core subject of my book, The Eliminationists: How Hate Talk Radicalized the American Right. I've been pointing out how the underlying dynamic is almost identical in nature to the challenge confronting communities when they have to deal with hate crimes and hate groups in their midst -- writ large, as it were.

In those situations, it's important to understand that the perpetrators believe they are acting on the unspoken, real wishes and needs of their communities. They believe they are actually being heroic and patriotic in standing up for those wishes.

This is why it's so critical for communities who wish to prevent these kinds of acts from occurring to stand up and make their real wishes, their real needs, publicly known. That's why the act of standing up to this kind of talk -- no matter how "PC" it may feel" -- absolutely essential: It undercuts their belief that they're being "heroic."

As I told Joshua Holland:

DN: ...What we are advocating -- what I'm advocating -- is standing up, using our own free speech. Hate speech is protected speech in this country, and it should be. I wouldn't have it any other way. But it's grossly irresponsible speech.

We, as citizens, have an obligation: If we are going to enjoy freedom of speech, we need to live up to the responsibility that comes with it. This is of course a common theme on the right -- that with your freedoms come responsibility. We say yes. With your freedom of speech comes a responsibility to speak responsibly, not in a way that harms other people, particularly when you have these huge media megaphones that give individuals the power to propagandize to millions of people.

It's incredibly irresponsible to start demonizing and dehumanizing other people, because that opens all of those people up to hate crimes and various acts of vicious retaliation that disturbed individuals have gotten permission for from eliminationist rhetoric.

Remember, censorship is government action against individuals. What we want to talk about is ... nobody wants to take Bill O'Reilly's free speech away, but we need to question whether he deserves to have that big megaphone. So I always advocate going to their advertisers and doing whatever you need to do to stand up.

One of the things that I learned while studying hate crimes is that the vast majority of hate crimes are committed by ordinary people, not by members of hate groups. Yet it's also the case that the vast majority of hate crimes are accompanied by hate-group rhetoric. So in a lot of ways hate crimes are a manifestation of the way right-wing extremism has permeated the broader culture. But more than that, these ordinary people also believe -- and I might add this includes the white supremacists -- that what they are doing reflects the secret desires, the unspoken wishes of the community that they believe they are defending.

When you stand up to them, when you engage in the act of standing up to them, that knocks that plank right out from under them, because when the community stands up and says, "No, these are not our values, this is not what we believe in, what you are doing is wrong," that takes that belief away.

JH: The silent majority ...

DN: Right. It's really important that the "silent majority" stop being silent and let them know that this is not acceptable. There are various ways of letting them know that. A guy like O'Reilly is never going to stop. So eventually what you have to do is go after his advertisers, get him off the air, because he is not going to change his ways.

This kind of focused attention to the problem is an important act of standing up. Hopefully, it's only the start.



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Ya. Lou Dobbs or "Mr. Independent" uses Republican language. All he does is talk so how does that make him independent?

...with left wing extremism?

That's not what i heard.

I heard violent speech incites physical violence. Makes sense.

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them burning crosses on somebody's lawn or lynching someone. Do you have a viable point or are you being paid by the rightwing facsist neocon corporatists to post here?

I'm not being literal...my point is La Raza is a racist group. The reason why liberals give them a pass is because they share their political ideology.

DocJ...methinks you been partaking of the freebies from bigpharma a bit much...
If La Raza was actually a racist group, then liberals wouldn't have anything to do with them.
You're talking out of your ass.

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Polly want a cracker...?

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by the National Council of La Raza when their handful of members
ride out in Aztec masks burning and lynching non Hispanic whites in revenge for Columbus and Isabella.

I know the National Council of La Raza tends to go knee jerk and yell "racism" more then they should many times but I've yet to see White people being lynched.

Hyperbolic sarcasm.

"Viva Isabella"!

Your dumbshit is so predictable.

sheep squeezins. I am not too timid to ask what troll squeezins might be used for.

I have to ask: are your feeble brains able to operate under a framework that does not rely heavily on projection?

No, with critical thinking, peaceful demonstration and effective action. That's how you make "progress"! Extremism in any form is harmful to the process.

Our biggest enemy is mass media.

Counterarguments. Most thinking people will come down somewhere in the middle. I must ask you, DocJ, have you ever been in a fight?

Not every issue has a "middle." I think most people approach these issues in a very grounded practical way.

About the fight, yes or no? Which is it?

yes. plenty.

... I guess only you fighting keyboardist know the horror... the horror....

believe you are a liar all the time. So, I was going to ask you to tell me where you got your data on the Southern Poverty Law Center, but as you now have no credibility, never mind.

You never know when you will need advice on the medicinal use of leeches.

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Not everything is a gray area. There are absolutes in this world. That's why not everything has a "middle."

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...so there's a middle ground in evaluating the Nazis?

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Oscar Schindler, John Rabe.

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Would you be personally offended if we said no?

it appearss that you aree getting your ass kicked here.

Not exactly unexpected...

counts for little in the real world...

I think you just misspelled "duck."

LOL

Why would I care?

... you'd understand.

...I have 2 doctorates, the other is in human biology...and again, why would I care if a bunch of anonymous people on a blog don't believe I'm a doctor?

Given that the only recognized independent human biology program in the US only offers undergraduate degrees... and you just don't strike me as Stanford material. The only way to get anything resembling a human biology graduate degree is via proxy doctorates in Anthropology or Physiology. You must have been quite the trailblazer!

As far as tall tales go, yours are quite boring. So to the ignore user list with you... LOL.

"...why would I care if a bunch of anonymous people on a blog don't believe I'm a doctor?"

For the same reason, I don't care who doesn't believe I'm an astronaut.

why don't you approach the subject in a practical way instead of accusing the la raza of being the same as the KKK?

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Point taken...I wasn't being literal. I just don't see how a bunch of groups who hate anyone who isn't a leftist can help solve the problem of extremism?

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Factual Bankruptcy. Nothing left, and no one(with brain cells) who wants to listen to your bullshit anyone.

You people have nothing remaining but lies and violence.

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Or he's a volunteer pinata from Red State, or Malikn's awful site.

...I'm a real conservative, not a Republican.

..."I'm a Conservative, not a human being.

Wait a minute... no I'm not. Do you have anything besides a quote from Buckley? Anything? Again I ask you, what do you propose we all do to solve this problem?

...want the same thing you do. Nutjobs like neo-nazis, the holocaust museum shooter, etc. etc. to be put away.

Rush Limbaugh speaks for all of you?

...and I didn't realize Rush supports radical right wing groups like Neo-Nazis.

LOL

Thanks for proving yourself a hypocrite.

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“Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views” ~William F Buckley Jr.

Second, no one here wants to hear Buckley's bullshit. You're quoting Buckley and look how fucked up you are.

...hypocrisy. Liberals claim to want all views to be expressed but then name call and badger when people actually do just that.

but I think it included Hispanic KKK.

Censorship as well, interesting. I already admitted that the KKK comparison was a poor one. That doesn't change the fact that "The Race" is a group of racists.

was actually a result of what white southern bigots might have called "unforced mongrelization" of the races.

Pat Buchanan's big upcoming to-do? It's okay for old white racists to meet and spout their hatred, but Hispanics cannot even mention "race?"

So if a minority group talks about being proud of their race it's multiculturalism but if white people do it's racism?

people who are proud of their heritage? Thank you for conceding the argument. At least you admit when you are wrong, even if you don't do it on purpose.

Examples, links please.

...and again... After what you people did to this country, I don't give a shit what you think.

"you people?" Wait I'll head this off at the pass..."neocons" are NOT conservatives, Republicans are NOT conservatives...so who are my people?

You're not fun anymore. Bye troll.

Won't fly. If you don't know who you are, don't expect us to take you seriously. If you are having internal identity issues, that might be a good sign. If you have any "good guy" members, I hope they win.

The closest label I could put on myself would be independent Libertarian

that fight you said you've been in must have been with the same girl that beat up Karl Rove. She must have kicked your ass too.

Too bad you lied before. Your logic is horrible. If you are indeed "independent," then how can you be a libertarian, too? I asked you two times to tell me how you proposed to solve the problem, and all you want to do is spout invective. Now you have completely bored me. Bye, now.

and MY logic is horrible? You're the one connecting various groups/people to right wing extremists who have done absolutely nothing to suggest they approve of these actions/words.

The independent refers to the fact that I'm not a member of a party.

Emergency Pampers needed in aisle five!

Here it is: The obligatory "hypocrite" allegation. He ran out of talking points.

Fucking masochist is enjoying this beating.

love attention.

...I just won't pay for anything.

Someone pat him on his teeny little head.

You people have got nothing...as usual.

Go ahead I'm all ears.

I mean the Republicans aren't even stupid enough to mess with this Demographic.

Most people are not armed. Most people are not angry. Turn off their TV and they get angry. Cut off the supply of beer and they get angry.
Tell them their democracy is non functioning...they just break wind and eat another burger.

population on earth and that is excluding Military and Law Enforcement. Your underestimating gun ownership here but that doesn't mean every gun owner collector is a lunatic hillbilly profile.

make Homer......something something.

Go Crazy?

Don't mind if I do! YAAWWWWWLALALALLALLAWWWWW!!!

Is there no law regarding incitement to violence? Billo, Limbaugh, et al can say anything they want but if it contributes another to act out their hate one would think they could be charged. Right now there is no incentive for anyone either left or right to weigh their words and be accountable for the ramifications.

this demographic of America doesn't want to live like a Liberal so Rush and these jerks take advantage of that by convincing them Liberals want to force them to adopt their values.

No win situation

Let them all move to whatever state will have them.

but we've lost that quality obviously.

I'm sorry if you have seen this before and I won't do it again (Maybe with fingers crossed behind my back) but a real good book about this crap is:
Big Lies by Joe Conason

... according to Godwin's Law this thread is officially over, and whoever brought the nazis into this fray lost.

LOL.

So sad...he held out as long as he could...but the poor fella got all tuckered out.

in the ignore list, the thread is quite readable. Alas, I can't say I am surprised.

And then leafing through the posts you can find a dialoge discouraging. At least there is some visible counter-culture to our pre-pseudo Nazi society.

Because it will assure they will NOT be reelected. The radical right may be very loud, but they are not the majority, even within their own party.

I have X-Republicans in my family, and most of them are now Independents , because they think the Republican Party has been overrun with 'KKK types and religious nuts'. ...

(But I do have one unhinged Christian fundamentalist sibling who really thinks Pres Obama is the anti-Christ)

However a definate problem is that radical right wing white Christian terrorists in this country will NOT be called terrorists, because the Republicans insist only liberals or muslims can be terrorists-

Isn't that odd, as these Muslim "terrorists" are usually the hard-core religious ones.....ultra-orthodox, very similar to these right-wing Christian evangelicals. I guess one always hates what resembles one the most.

Both sides preach hate and intollerance, both demand obediance to an invisible man in the sky, and both have a history of oppression and violence towards non believers....

It's odd the radical Christians and Muslims hate each other so much, given that their tactics are the same...

And I laugh when Christians assert that Islam has a more violent history than Christianity- More blood has been spilled in the name of Jesus than in any other religion.

Why do pratitioners of these religions hate each other? Could because they both share a sense of self loathing and contempt for life..

As Oscar Wilde once wrote:

'We cannot help but hate in others the things we see in ourselves'

Tack far RIGHT should have been my headline, sorry

In time of war, dig a ditch when tacking far. Keep your head down when ya har them guns.

Heyell...ricky, if'n ya dint here know gunz, yew is deyead.

I recall a time when every time Obama was interviewed, the interviewer would demand that he firmly distance himself from Jeremiah Wright.

Every conservative politician who is interviewed by the media these days should be required to issue a firm statement condemning violence against abortion clinics.

This won't happen, I know.

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